>Not an IT guy.
>Accountants ask me to change their passwords for all the company accounts. Boss is running a large and successful local company.
>Main account password for my boss's email is literally 'football'
>Accountants have bookkeeping information on a Wal-mart computer with no backups/off-site backups.
>All the accountants e-mail addresses passwords all have the same password.
> Six different emails with the majority being Yahoo email addresses.
>Gives most of the employees access to the building and hides the office key in stupid obvious place.
How bad is your company's security /g/?
>Be called to financial company because of a spam problem
>Inboxes filled with spam in minutes
>Their own servers are the ones sending the spam
>Every mail account from the janitor to the CEO have the same 8 letter password as per company policy
Well let me tell you something
>Start internship as IT guy still in highschool
>Go into Large IT/printer/etc shop to work there
>Every single device is connected to the IPS's modem/hub/switch/ap( Those Cheap ass Hitron all that barelly work) jurry rigged with dozens of switches and premade cables.
>Only thing connected to a seperate modem is the IP Phones (thank the gods)
>Local lan speeds dip into 100 mb/s max even though its gigabit and they actually have a gigabit service from the ISP that actually gives out 1 gb speeds.
>Ask the boss if I can setup a proper Netwoork and a budget.
>Boss gives me 3k budget for everything
>Get a Xeon box with 32 gb's of ram + 2 dual nic network cards+ Cat 6e cable
>Talk to an ITED(this is the standart for network instalations in my country) network designed and ask the ITED tecnician to help me pass the cable and publish the building's ITED plan.
>Make 4 separate networks
>1 totally isolated network for the computer repair Zone so that they can freely connect all the PC's without danger
>1 for the entire main floor and wireless in the entire store
>1 for Offices and executive staff
>1 for Storage servers and server maintenance
>the ITED Plan gets approved
>ANACOM engineer surveys the building and gives the thumbs up on perfect install.
>Configure PFSense with all the bells and whistles from DNS to UPS.
>Write a easy to use and read Instruction manual for idiots for any possible outcom or necessity possible
>End the internship and get paid for the installation.
Now here's the zinger 7 months later I returned there because well the store manager sells hardware to me at cost and some jerkoff tecnician reverted back to the old jurry rigged network system.
When I asked why it was because the PFSense box stopped working, turns out the PSU was busted but the idiot who was put in charge of maintaining it was a fucking CS Engineer that insisted he knew better and jurry rigged
>So as I was almost leaving with my freshly acquired hard drives someone enters the shop.
>The name tag on the suit has the name ANACOM on it.
>Let the boss greet him
>They talk while I listen , and the boss knows i'm a qualified network tecnician at this point and when I nudge him as a sign to stay he doesn't protest.
>Turns out the ITED project got updated to v3 and some of the old projects need to be reviewed (ours diden't have a fiber channel instalation which the New ITED required to atleast have 1 cable passed, it diden't even need terminals)
At this point you know shit's about to hit the wall because all the wall sockets are unplugged for no reason.
>Join them while they go to the server room, no one's there because it's noon and the intern is on lunch break.
>All the Patch panels have no cabling connected to them, I literally see a giant ass Cylindrical group of cables in the floor all twisted up and connected to switchs that where all connected to switches that where in turn connected to more switches that where finally connected to the hitron shit box directly.
>The ANACOM guy looks at us in disgust and walks away.
I leave wordless not much after.
The Next day
>Sleeping in on a sunday
>Get a call from the old Boss saying they just got a Massive 50k € fine due the spaghetti mess.
>Asks me to Fix the mess for 70€/H
>I get there call up another ITED installer (I can't officially install ITED networks because i'm not certified needed someone to help me/sign off the project) and in less then 2 days I fix that shit up and install the fiber.
>Fix the PFSense server and update it and strip it of all features except DNS because loads of thing had changed and I had no time to properly reconfigure it.
>Phone ANACOM to reschedule the checkup to next Monday so as to avoid the 50k € fine.
>Get there at 7 AM, with the boss to make some final checkups.
>(2/3 , TEXT LIMIT INTENSIFIES)
>and Fix a patch panel which I forgot to wire in.
>ANACOM engineer arrives at 7.30 AM, does a random inspection to 14 of the ethernet wall-sockets and tests the Patch panels connections.
At this point me and the Boss are sweating bullets
>He gives the green-light and writes off the fine.
After this we go chill in the coffee shop until 8.30 AM and just try to relax then we head back into the shop to take care of my payment.
>So as i'm about to leave at 9 AM that CS Engie shows up.
>The moment he's about to greet the boss
>Boss turns around to him and just says "You're fired" and lights a cigar.
When he ask's the reason I hand him the ANACOM fine and he basically ask's ANACOM is.
>At this point I lose it.
>I Grab my 200 Page Paperback ITED manual(Which I just happened to bring along) I had printed and I smack him in the chops with it and I tell him.
"Read it up you might learn something about how proper networks work"
>As I do this he starts Berating me on how he's an engineer and how he knows everything he needs to know.
>So mid talk I grab the money from the Boss's table and turn back at him and say
"Yeah sure, that's why I'm here to fix your mess dude while you "know" everything you need to know you just costed this company 500€ in cable that had to be replaced, 1200€ in services rendered without wielding ANY profit all oh and let's not mention making the Boss over there lose his companies impeccable reputation because you fucked up a network install."
At this point the guy just runs out of the shop crying for some reason.
The moment he leaves I get a job offering for his place.
But I told the Boss I was still studying and give him a few references on people he should hire and walked out of the shop.
To this day I'm amazed how some people go into the corporate environment dismiss easy to read documentation left by the previous Person in chage and fuck everything up like this.
And i'm only 20 at this point I was 17 when I made that network.
I would understand a person not knowing how to fix a Computer/server box, but I whenever the computer wouldn't boot or give signal I left specific instructions to give the server to the guy over in the IT department so they could fix it.
I mean cmon are they really churining out CS idiots at universities these days?
hi anon, fellow PTfag here :^)
id love to do the same work as you do.
im wondering if you can give me some pointers on how to get started in the business?
im 18. its amazing you were 17 when you started working.
if you could please send a throwaway email here id be very grateful. or, if you prefer, email me at:
You go take professional courses and get certs and do a good job at internships.
But if you really want to be a technician you can just go to ATEC and take all the certifications there if you're like between the best 3 of the class you're sure to find a job in your area of choice.
For my 10-12th grade I took Computer hardware and Information Technologies Tecnician(level 4).
Currently doing a CTeSP in Networking and Computer Systems (it's basicly a 2 year CCNA course on cisco networking and windows, redhat linux, OSX and BSD training).
After i'm done with that i'm going to get my redhat certs and windows certs and just go into consulting or work as a Junior sysadmin in Sweeden for Siemens( I know people there) or something similar.
Some passwords are stored plaintext in the database and fuck knows what kind of security holes wait in the crusty old PHP early 5.0 era shitty spaghetti code.
>worked for document management company
>"safe and secure document storage solution"
>passwords checked client side
>zero authentication and encryption to use application server
Anyone with a WCF dev tool could have pwned any installation.
>going into IT / software engineering
>read this thread.
>don't know how to prepare self for all the tech cringe that awaits me in my career.
How do you guys do it?
I learned to wire in class since it was Part of the IT classes I had in my Course see here >>52512309
As for the PFSense router I learned how to use it at home.
Ever seen multiple switches connected to each other multiple times?
We just go fuck it and fix it and then fuck the aftermath because we ain't there nomore.
>be 19 yo me
>working at shitty data entry job for scammy SEO company
>fill in data for small businesses
>requires me to know intricate detail about the business which is kept on a company website
>password dont hold special requirements
>website can be accessed from outside the job
>website list all the clients alphabetically on one page
>can literally find any business with ctrl + F
>website has a default login
>default account has access to unencripted credit card numbers and CVVs
My only regret about that job is not selling the login info before they fixed the backdoor. They did it 3 weeks after i got fired for "watching youtube"(the company website crashed every day because ofcourse it did. What else was i suppose to do?)
Try Auto Europa's ATEC buddy
>Always remember That google customizes your searches to what to match your tastes!
I find family more frustrating.
Flat out refuse to take any of your advice, they "know better" yet come to you with all sorts of stupid questions about every possible contingency.
At least with businesses, you can walk away from that shit and its not going to be your fault/problem, and even then you get paid to fix it.
>had a bazillion account to sign in every time I logged into the computer
>password is Password1 for everything and everyone
>every month you had to change your passwords
>you had to call your manager to enter it for you
>we're switching domain for a reason
>it's done on a computer per computer basis
>one computer a day
>finally it's my turn
>greasy IT comes, 2 guys
>confused as fuck because I'm the only frenchfag with an AZERTY keyboard
>for some reason CTRL+Shift doesn't change kb layout in Citrix
>IT take the whole matinee trying to migrate me to the new domain
>something is not working
>they leave, manager tell me to skip lunch because I couldn't work during the failed migration
>never see IT guys again
>5 months after, out of 1000 people, me and one buddy are the only ones left on the old domain
>manager can't monitor our activities due to this
>spend most of my days looking at job offers
And I was working for a IBM branch, for fuck's sake
the worst part is that the most clueless ones are the ones that are certain they know what they're doing and whatever is broken is somehow your fault, or someone "changed it while I was away" and never mind the fact that leaving your terminal without locking it should be a fireable offense
Then you're discussing it, instead of "having The talk".
It sometimes needs to be something like:
>shut the hell up, you don't know shit (example1,...)
>i am from the internet generation and i know my shit (example1,...)
>so from this point on i want you, for your own sake, to accept me as the person who knows it better of us two
I never really had to do this, just correct them when they say weird shit while radiating confidence and knowledge.
Whenever they'll try to pin something on me again, i'm going to install GNU/Linux on the family desktop, and you are all going to learn bash and GNU/Linux operating system fundamentals
Pretty good. Everyone uses 1Password to generate large random passwords for all services. All-Mac office, so now viruses and minimal malware (I'm a Mac-hater personally, but these things are pretty secure). Our product is hosted in Azure, all passwords are on a need-to-know basis, 2FA for everything. We don't have any IT folks, just a bunch of devs.
> We were bought by a larger, tech-illiterate company about a year ago
> They're letting us all go over the next two months
>be 17 and too dumb to hold down a real job
>get a real job anyway at a local textbook distribution company
>job consists of sitting in the server room eleven hours a night running a bunch of batch jobs which are completely undocumented, I just had to key in three-digit codes
>half of them seem to take down and bring back up the various systems running the warehouse machinery
>the other half were apparently for printing out over 1400 pages of green-lined computer paper which I had to hand-sort into the inboxes of different departments that nobody read
>all of the equipment was from different eras, using different software, and everything barely worked
>sit at desk, punch in codes, resolve the endless fucking race conditions caused by a single three-digit code launching six jobs, none of which can complete while any of the other five are running
>they had fired the only person who knew some of their critical systems and had spent the last few years hoping nothing would break
I lost the job when I accidentally dismissed one of the race condition error messages which led to being on the phone with three of my bosses for three hours at 3am. There was no way to just kill and re-run the job. It was a nightmare.
Password was "password", wasn't it anon. ..
HAH! I haven't met a single person who went to any college of any kind (tech, uni, or other) that knew a damn thing who didn't just go and work for themselves because of the retards running most places.
Shit, our local cable company hired someone who went to the same college, and took the same class as me. He "used his own" ethernet standard because "well, it's always worked on my test-bench!". After he couldn't determine why his 20-ft cable had more cross-talk than a room full of fat black women, he just dropped Coax and moved the modem into the room instead.
All that "passing" means in school is that they completed homework. It does NOT indicate proficiency.
I was helping my cousin at a family gathering once because her computer was decrepit with all of the junk on it.
I get literally pushed out of the way by a hambeast who "works on computers every day" and listen to him spend an HOUR running CCleaner and having her do Speedtest.net tests on a neighbor's open wi-fi, showing how much he sped up her computer...
Luckily you can Nope your way the fuck out of non-immediate family. Especially when a retard so gladly inserts himself into the line of fire.
> Company creates all new vpn accounts with the same default password and name convention.
> No policy in place to force password changes.
> If you know a new hire's name then you have all you need.
> Fortune 500 company.
>To this day I'm amazed how some people go into the corporate environment dismiss easy to read documentation left by the previous Person in chage and fuck everything up like this.
>My wife interned at local cop shop doing radio engineering
>Gets the intern desk
>Filed with files
>Haphazardly sorted due to generations of interns
>DDoesn't really use any of the papers or reports because you jsut use manuals and figure all the job out based on that.
>Adds her reports and diaries to the pile
>2 years later
>A buddy of mine gets the same position
>First day on the job sees that desk
>First thing he does is sort out manuals
>Rest of the paper work gets thrown into several garbage bags
>One senior guy asks him if that's a good idea
>"If it were really important, it wouldn't be kept here."
>Does internship with no problems
I only found this out because he asked if my wife had the position previously, as he saw her name on some of the files.
>How bad is your company's security /g/?
When I was in the military it was terrible.
Drive onto base, outer gate is open round the clock.
Unit has a fence with gates that are locked at 10 and opened at 6. Back side gate has over a foot and a half clearance due to a depression in the pavement you can crawl under.
Tanks are in a large 'sprung shelter' with normal 'crash bar' doors that are locked and hend in place by the pin on the latch.
Tanks are not locked or secured in anyway.
You could steal a tank by kicked one door in and knowing how to start and drive a tank.
>You could steal a tank by kicked one door in and knowing how to start and drive a tank.
Also, having been in the military, it seems that the brass assume "civilians not knowing how to start military vehicles" counts as a security device, when the information is widely available.
>doing work that you are not meant to do
>doing someone elses job
>being an office bitch
Fuck sake OP, just tell them to fuck off. You are not the IT guy there, Get the actual IT guy to do it.
That happened at my buddy's national guard unit back in the 80s. Some soldier stole a tank and drove it all around San Diego fucking shit up. [spoiler]my unit only just got issued weapons to store on site[/spoiler]
>helping cousins with IT
fuck that shit, unless its mum or dad or your bro or sis then they should be paying you for your time. Cousins don't get a free ride in my books, especially when i only see them once or twice a year.
Things to remember about giving your elders "the talk"
It doesn't matter when they beat the shit out of you afterward, that is honestly how they think they teach people things.
>be printer technichian
>customer is a larger lawyer firm with many printers
>printer has some sort of error code which is the result of a corrupt print
>easy job as I the solution is to remove the printjob from the queue at the server
>I tell this to one of the IT staff and she tells me she needs to take a phonecall or something first
>so while I wait nest to the printer and notices several others with the same error code
>a few minutes later she comes back and is very stressed
>she asks me to conrim how to get rid of the error code and I canfirm it
>she then tells me that one guy in this office tried every single printer he could to print the document and by that disabling every printer
>she then me that she has to call the main office, in a different city, to tell them how to fix it before she runs back to her desk.
I've never been to their main office, but I guess this was around 100 printers taken out at once.
>It didn't work the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd try, maybe it'll work the 100th try
It really does amaze me how people will keep doing something repeatedly and still not realize what they're doing.
take avantage of the ignorance and sell them hyped shit tier products
>intern / junior dev at a large educational institution's IT shitshow
>need to fix some obscure service running on ancient server
>ask for permissions
>somebody with no computer skills whatsoever somehow assigns me to server's admins without asking anything
>finish internship, work at the place for a couple of years building up more admin group memberships
>quit job in frustration and rage about middle management, finish master's 2 years later
>log into university servers to backup my stuff
>still in half of those admin groups
>unless you go into a helpdesk role you will have 0 contact with your staff or clients IT "issues"
Unless you enter a company where they skimp out on the in-house support, and expect their technicians to do that.
t. disgruntled it-technician
Just before getting my IT Engineering degree, I had a job as a network admin and my very first job was to install a whole network for a small CS lab. No electrical wires, no desks, fuck it, not even a decent floor. I learned a lot from that and start working on L1 on a Telecom enterprise later getting used to more practical stuff.
You need to think what you want to do as Engineer later, and specializate on that.