>spend 2 days reading wiki articles and forum posts
>can't even get basic font rendering
>everything just werks
>everything looks clean and beautiful
So what's the point of Arch, exactly?
>inb4 hurr muh configuration
>muh bleeding edge
You can do all those things on any GNU/Linux distro if you know what you're doing.
>battery doesn't work
>can't change scree brightness
>taskbar doesn't load on every boot
>all browsers crash the whole system
>lagging out the ass
>in built wacom tablet doesn't work
>install X and i3
>battery works, ~2h so not special
>xbacklight works fine
>no problems with browsers or performance
>wacom tablet just werks
>didn't even write xorg.conf
My class installed ubuntus and debians on virtual machines once, out of the 20 people maybe 3 got their ubuntus working while all the debian ones worked fine. Ubuntu doesn't install right even in a virtual machine.
But I'm the one laughing at you because I have all this extra free time to shitpost on /g/ while you spent that time trying to get your arch install close to what a real GNU/Linux distro provides out of the box.
>>battery doesn't work
>>can't change scree brightness
>>taskbar doesn't load on every boot
>>all browsers crash the whole system
>>lagging out the ass
>>in built wacom tablet doesn't work
That literally didn't happen in the last 8 years.
>you can just copy configs between computers or even use someone else's, though
That's exactly what I am doing.
I'm using config files that the Ubuntu developers have set up for me.
you can't do these on ANY distro, only a select few
>>didn't even write xorg.conf
I also ran into this recently. xorg.conf is less necessary than I had always though.
Why are you lying on the Internet?
I imagine Ubuntu's issue is similar to the Windows one. In the process of trying to oversimplify things and appeal to normies, they've actually made things more difficult and convoluted, not to mention broken.
The Archwiki also has a lot of example configs, or you could get one from a desktop thread. You made it sound like you didn't know how to edit config files so you left Arch. Seems kinda odd considering you made it past the installation, which is by far the most difficult part.
Happened a year ago, anon.
Following my bad experience with ubuntu, and before trying arch, I tried elementary, forgetting that it was based on ubuntu. The iso was faulty though so I didn't get past the download.
Did you even add the infinality bundles to your pacmam.conf? Photo related.
I've been building off the same configs from crunchbang to debian to ubuntu minimal back to debian and later to arch
none of my work was for nothing, all I did was get a better system in the end without losing all my work from the years past
To be honest I fell for the stability meme and moved from Arch to Xubuntu LTS
Ironically after the first update my NumLock got reversed, something I never had to deal with while in Arch
So I came back home to Arch+Cinnamon. Shit just works
Although I have moved to KDE these days.
stability just means that when the bugs get ya, the fixes take longer to hit ya
also as you said I've actually had a lot less problems on Arch than I did on Debian
either all the anti-Arch memes were made up or Arch is a LOT different than it was back then
Some guy made an infographic for programs to use on GNU/Linux and it had a lot of shit taste in it. Every time it gets used for the OP pic of /flg/, everyone flips their shit and drama ensues.
I fell for the file picker meme
All those Arch memes are made by people who did not use arch more than 1 hour
>Enabling a third party repo to get an AUR helper
I had no idea. I just followed the baseline while reading through the wiki, as it was a bit faster, and if I install it somewhere else, I just follow the basics of the guide in case I forget something. And I don't follow it to heart, just some of it. Didn't know there was hate, just a nifty thing imo
But in a way, they are.
I much prefer relying on a PPA maintained usually by a developer of the project than something an autist put together.
The amount of times I've read AUR comments and they've all complaints about how the package doesn't work for some other reason...
No, they aren't.
PPAs are custom repos. You can add such repos in Arch, and there are some (e.g. one with ZFS enabled Linux).
AUR is a source package repository. On Debian the closest thing is their source repo that you have access to with apt-src. However, access to this repo is restricted, unlike for AUR.
Build scripts are really more secure than private repos if you check their contents (which is easy in Arch), because you have less people to trust.
quite obvious that it's from the same guy
literally yes and they're trying really hard to build an installer which does work but sometimes it just fails. It's also very limited at this point so if you're used to doing some customisations during your arch install, this will not satisfy your needs.
I don't get this meme.
I consider myself barely literate when it comes to computers and stuff. Yet I'm running Arch with almost no problems.
So the fact that you're using Arch is largely irrelevant.
This thread was about people who use arch and install minimal WM's and are left having to configure every other aspect of the OS manually.
Well that's their decision. I can pretty much install my entire configuration from installation CD, and then finish it with porting my saved settings from previous KDE settings.
This is exactly how I transferred the last time I changed my computer.
>get everything running
>had pretty fun doing it along with some frustrations
>comp dies completely
>getting new comp
>ubuntu + i3wm instead
Seriously just can't be arsed setting Arch up again, did have fun with it though
>Having tons of shit to sort through on your pc that you'll never use or is inferior to an alternative is bloat senpai.
Oh that meme. Yes I almost forgot there are guys like you around.
Well, what exactly is all of this 'shit' you claim that you need to sort through?
You are going to get yelled at by your professor for doing hobby shit in class.
>yes Anon, what can I help you with?
>my X settings are finally to my liking, now I need to configure my terminal emulator to look the ones in the desktop threads...
>Anon, have you pushed your final project to the git repo so that it can be graded tomorrow?
>n-no, I haven't started yet because I still need to get these godamn anime pictures positioned perfectly for my screenfetch post!
>>spend 2 days reading wiki articles and forum posts
>>can't even get basic font rendering
Son you might be retarded, if you follow the beginners guide you'll end up in the recommendations where font rendering is covered
-A Debian user
>I have never posted in those threads, ever. i3 isn't about showing off it's about efficiency senpai.
>ending all sentences with senpai
What a fucking weeb. I am done with your idiocy
>crossing out the best arguments arch has to offer besides pacman, AUR & wiki
>babbies first linux is so much better because who cares if i don't use 3/4 of preinstalled programs, nor the DE.
>i dont know how into arch so i have to insult it on my personal blog
>you can do everything you can do on arch if you have the knowledge, but muh head hurts and i personally can't do it on any distro
Just fuck off
>/mu/ is the fucking worst board
I can concur.
I'm a huge music fan but /mu/ is fucking shit.
Literally hipsters jumping on any obscure/trendy bandwagon and nothing else.
You're better off going to /tv/ if you want to discuss entertainment.
His point is that you have to spend days to figure out what you're doing. The user shouldn't have to understand font rendering configurations in order to have decent looking fonts. People have better things to do with their time.
>So what's the point of Arch, exactly?
It's fun and educational to figure out how YOU messed up. Can't blame the computer if something don't work.
It's for people who enjoy hours upon hours of looking at documentation and fiddling with configs and installing stuff
>I'm not saying that shit doesn't happen. But I've never seen it happen personally
fair, some retards do argue the "shit doesnt happen" angle
>I don't know what people are using that their shit breaks on an update.
depends on how much you have to use the AUR i presume, never had any issues with official repos, but some software is AUR or not at all
>You can do all those things on any GNU/Linux distro if you know what you're doing.
And yet you couldn't do it on Arch, which leaves me to believe you'll never bother trying to figure it out on Ubuntu
eh i agree with them, 17/18/19 is prime time for it for most people
if youre willing to dig around your distro after work and enjoy that obv above doesnt apply
i know i fit the bill, installed arch during my 1 week off around a christmas holiday and had a blast, but as soon as it was over and real life came knocking again i just wanted something that werks again (ran into an issue that surely could be fixed but wouldve "just werked" elsewhere)
and I'm here shitposting from Manjaro.
>mfw all the best Arch has to offer
>without wasting time setting it up and messing with configs
Well, if you already know what you are doing, it is not that hard at all. But getting familliar with Arch/Linux structure takes a several nights figuring some X stuff out. Just saying.
No, it will fix your X font rendering.
Pic related is what this configuration looks like.
They fucked up the ultimate config in an update, so i uninstalled it and just used vanilla freetype rendering.
It looks exactly the same as my old infinality setup without all the stupid hackish infinality bloat.
I understand it's a word filter, what I meant was
STOP TYPING SENPAI THEN YOU FUCKING IDIOTS WHEN YOU KNOW IT FILTERS TO THAT SHIT
You retards act as if senpai is any better.
>You can do all those things on any GNU/Linux distro if you know what you're doing.
First, no you can't. Go ahead and put your Ubuntu on a rolling release.
Second, you whine about how "Arch is so hard guys" and then suggest that someone turn Ubuntu into Arch which is much harder.
I've honestly run into more inconvenient issues on Ubuntu than Arch. As a poorfag I have to make do with old and unusual hardware. Also fixing weird problems is much harder when you first have to find out which of the dozen layers of eye candy UI it is that's breaking at the moment.
>wasting a weekend installing an operating system
You're only proving their point you know, arch is for people with nolife and/or nojob.
If you're familiar with the terminal it can take out a chunk of one day to install. To set it up afterwards will take time too, but any OS will if you want to configure it to your liking. When you're using that OS for years, the hours it takes to install is negligible. If you are fine with the defaults that x distro gives you, then arch isn't for you, and that's fine.
>can't get basic font rendering
Just installing xorg gets you BASIC font rendering, idiot. BAWWW I WANT MY FONTS TO LOOK FUZZY AND INDISTINCT LIKE MAH APPLEFUCK COMPUTERS BECAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK COOL HOW I DO THAT
Goddamn, fontfucks are retarded.
God knows how many months of my life I've wasted on Gentoo and Arch. Probably just as much time as I've wasted on 4chan.
>Probably just as much time as I've wasted on 4chan.
If anyone knew how much time they have wasted on 4chan, they'd instantly kill themselves.
Imagine being told you have shitposted for an entire 2 years of your life.
Been here since late 2006 so approx nine years. Perhaps half an hour per day average for me over that time, though I did used to binge when I first started.
(9 years * 365 days * 30 mins) /(60 mins*24 hours) = 68.4 days of my life lost here.
Brb making a noose.
I installed it just to see how painful it was. I also wanted to learn a bit more about linux as a whole. I don't use Arch to be productive, but to just fiddle with linux now and again.
arch is productive if your object is to learn about linux. i really don't understand the hate arch gets on this forum. just look at it as a hobby -- yeah, you might look down on people who have enough time/interest to spend doing archlinux things, and it might piss you off when they're elitist about it, but isn't
>likes arch, must be NEET, should get job
just substituting one kind of elitism for another?
i respect anyone who has spent enough time to gain an in-depth understanding of pretty much anything.
full disclosure: i am an arch fuckboy.
Arch is also one of the few distro's where you have to be part of the community.
Like reading the news of special things you can do to complete an upgrade or how to do configure certain things.
Coming from long time ubuntu user, this stuff is really easy.
I spend a day being frustrated with the installation the first time but after that everything is easier. Updates, installing software, installing software outside repo. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone because I would hate to support someone else but It is nice to have fixed the bugs before they hit ubuntu.
i think what he's saying (and i agree) is that somewhere along the line in your arch linux fuckfest you will need to rely on the knowledge and expertise of others in the community. the main source being of course the immaculately maintained wiki, but the forums are also active.
but if you can get arch installed and working reasonably well all on your own with no prior experience with the distro, respect.