We are willing to accept posts from HURD and BSD users. We do NOT consider any Apple OS to be a BSD, even though it is based on it. That said, this thread is primarily for OS running on Linux kernel, although we accept those who doesn't use GNU coreutils or glibc (busybox/musl libc, such as Alpine Linux).
Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
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IRC No one uses:
Use DNF, YUM has been deprecated since 22.
It's pretty straightforward, not a whole lot of difference except for the package manager.dnf search [package]
For multi-word searches, put the name in apostrophes, i.e. '4chan users'dnf install [package]dnf remove [package]rpm -ivf [rpm file]
That's install, verbose, and I think force. I only ever use it when I just installed, to install RPMfusion: http://rpmfusion.org/
You do not have sudo by default, you have to su into root and enable that, which I do not recommend.
Other than that, pretty much just different names for software. Personally, I like Fedora-based distros better than Debian-based, but that's just me.
You'll have a similar level of support on the internet as you would with a *buntu distro, so any questions you need answered are a google search away.
I ran CentOS for a while on what I laughably call a home server. The only thing that kinda wrong-footed me was that I realized I'd gotten very used to Debian's enormous repos. The base stuff for servers and office desktops is all there like you'd expect, but the farther away from that you get the more you have to dig around in other additional repos.
DNF is pretty nice, I liked it when I had Fedora on my laptop
CentOS might not use DNF by default yet. I know Fedora 22+ runs it, and I'm fairly confident RHEL does it.
At any rate, it should be enabled at least, so you'll be able to use it. If not, it's literally just a matter of substituting "dnf" for "yum" in the commands I gave.
I don't think they do yet
I wound up leaving too, but to go in the opposite direction. I liked it, and wanted to stay, but too much stuff broke on updates for me (especially major ones, like 21 -> 22) I'm on Debian stable now (except for one machine that I have to run testing on for hardware support reasons)
>tfw starting to actually git gud and comfortable with the linux terminal
Seriously, to the guy who recommend "The Linux Command Line" a while back, you're the real hero.
First 6 chapters are a must-read: so many useful things explained in an easy way.
I did it about eight months ago and now I can't even go back to Windows
DIrectx 11 does not work. It works by falling back to either directx9 or opengl backends.
11 will never work in wine. They are only just finishing off dx9
Check appdb before you make any purchases
Good evening, friends! I hope this anonymous message finds you in sound health and uplifted spirits. It is a pleasure to share this sometimes inane arena of discussion with you all. Well, I must leave, as my break is over.
Remember to install GNU/Linux!
To be honest I fell for the stability meme and moved from Arch to Xubuntu LTS
Ironically after the first update my NumLock got reversed, something I never had to deal with while in Arch
So I came back home to Arch+Cinnamon. Shit just works
Every thread there will be at least ONE winnigger who will post dumb memes
>dosent understand that literally every os has patches
>open up your windows 7/8/10 update history you have 100's of GB of update patches
I have preview with stock pcmanfm and nothing else.
If your manger does not offer it, you are free to install one that does,without aforementioned patches.
user laziness is not devs problem
Oh? I don't have any issues with my
>file upload box
> tfw Gentoo user
> tfw installing it was the most autistic endeavor of my life
> tfw my hobby is finding things to customize in my Gentoo install
This board turned me into an autist. I fell for every single meme they shilled.
Did you fall for the epic deathadder mouce meme XDDDD yet?
> OS automatically applies hundreds of patches without your knowledge, doing god knows what, bloating your system and slowing everything down
> Needing to apply one patch to get a minor feature
What distro would the Supreme Gentleman install?
alright /flt/ i'm gonna do it
i've been a windowsfag my entire life but tonight i'll go balls deep into arch linux
not for freedom
but for a e s t h e t i c
will post back here from my phone in case i fuck it all up
I did not. I'm saving up for a thinkpad, though.
Linux Mint or Elementary, any OS that involves little work but could have things to blow way out of proportion and sperg out over.
He strikes me as a true Arch linux dude
>Hates casual normiecucks
>Is the supreme gentleman
I made this using 'convert' with a delay of 1. It's pretty much a blur when I play it with my image viewer (gnome something), but when I open it in firefox it's noticeably slower. Anyone know why?
What linux distro should I put on this computer for my dad that knows fuck all about computers?
It has 768MB of ram but I can up it to 2GB with two sticks from an old P4 machine I have.
This thing has XP on it and I think thats the only OS he has ever used so something similar in feel would be nice. I would just keep XP on it but its full of emachines bloatware and there is a possibility he will get internet hooked up at his house and I want him to have something that still receives updates and make it where he cant run random exes he finds on the internet
Firefox enforces strict gif frame delays, whereas your image viewer is probably just rendering as fast as your processor allows
tl;dr you're fucked, if you want it to be a blur, do some post-processing and stick to a frame delay greater than 0.02 seconds per frame
>do reverse image search
>find this: https://imgur.com/a/YMwOp
So many linux distributions!
But what is the BEST one?
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as CVS is, in fact, CVS/Pharmacy. Many people go to CVS every day without realizing that there is a Pharmacy, maintained by the American Medical Association. There is a CVS, and people are using it, but most CVS stores are in fact, CVS/Pharmacy stores, using core pharmacy features like filling prescriptions and selling over-the-counter allergy medicines.
depends on why you're doing it
>just downloading and testing a DE
>using a DE because it does certain things more easily
eh, i guess it's fine, although you can probably do it with a standalone WM with 1) less bloat and 2) specific tailoring to your needs
>using a DE because you're literally a scrub who can't be arsed to learn anything non-Windows
fuck outta here
Downloaded and installed Arch as my first distro,
couldn't get fonts to just werk,
decided I might have a better time with Gentoo,
(didn't believe the memes.)
>10 years compiling.
How autistic am I /g/?
i think its offense to actual autistic people to call everything autism, like some kids with sensory disabilities go through a living hell every day and yous till think that autism is allabout anime and DUDE LINUX LMAO
Serious Linux noob here. Getting a dell XPS 8900 soon. It comes with Windows 10. I would like to install Debian or Ubuntu on it along with Windows 10.
Is this possible? I've heard some things recently about hardware being designed to work with only 1 os.
>getting a prebuilt
I'm using a prebuilt desktop right now that I've had for nearly 5 years (which might sound OK, except that I had to switch out the shitty power supply unit that came with it). I genuinely wish I could have just built my own one -- especially given how easy switching out the PSU was and how non-scary the inside of my desktop actually is.
Regarding your question:
It's mostly because of something called UEFI, which replaced BIOS. For regular purposes, this somewhat complicates the installation process. For DIY installers (like Arch and minimal Debian), it's somewhat painful.
More disturbingly, UEFI comes with an option called Secure boot, which (when not disabled) makes installing alternative OSes basically impossible:
Microsoft forces manufacturers to ship Windows 10 with secure boot enabled, but recently, they've given them the option to not to allow Secure boot to be turned off.
I don't think any manufacturers have actually done that, yet. And for various reasons (cred amongst nerds, good faith, etc.), it's unlikely you'll ever see a big-name manufacturer ship with Secure boot as mandatory. In your case, your Dell desktop should be fine.
Still, bullshit like this is one of the many reasons why building your own computer isn't just some "meme". You literally don't run into problems like this.
I went balls deep and I actually like it. Only problem is I'm stuck as root user. I have tried adding non roots and every time I go to sign in as one, it will almost log in before resetting back to where I type the username in. Msfconsole won't connect to its databases either. Could really use some help if anyone wants to get ahold of me. Kik is trod1221, but please don't use this to fuck around.
I've used this system long enough that it is deep in my muscle memory. It's convenient when you very occasionally type in languages other than english to get characters like ß ö ç ñ.
alt + shift + o should be a large slashed 'o'
I've not found this thing. It's probably not too much work to make it from scratch though.
Installing Arch for the first time here. Installing a GUI has me a little stumped since I don't want to use a DE, but there's so many options for everything it's overwhelming.
What's a good DM and WM to use?
Well, you can do that via xbindkeys or simliar tools, but why dont you use the compose key? compose +o = o, compose +O = O
If you really want to remap keys, go with https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xmodmap
I want to execute$ echo 250 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
$ echo 180 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity
to increase the speed and sensitity of my trackpoint when I turn on my laptop.
How can I do it, since it requires sudo?
Well, not necessarily. High-Functioning Autism (Asperger's) would apply, but if you go much farther than that you get into "can barely function at all let alone operate a computer" territory.
So it sort of makes sense, but it's like that XKCD comic where the drunker you are, the better you are a programming, but it's a specific level of drunk.
Computer skill spikes at a certain point on the autism spectrum and then after than it drops off hard.
I created a scripttrackpoint.shin /usr/binecho 120 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/speed
echo 250 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/sensitivity
and a service [trackpoint.service] in /etc/systemd/system[Unit]
Description=Increase trackpoint sensitivity
and finally ran the following commands$ sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/my-script
$ sudo systemctl enable myscript.service
When I restarted my computer, nothing changed.
Why does opening a Python shell in the terminal take up 100% of an entire CPU core even when it's inactive?
It doesn't actually burn that much right? Is it just to show that resources are dedicated to that shell?
It also seems to cycle cores.
Anyone else planning to buy an ATI FirePro V4800, $65, from eBay for Xen/KVM/Esxi?
With a FirePro or Quadro card, you'll be able to use Windows Hyper-v enlightenments without having to mess with config files.
Currently, the only way to use Geforce or GTX cards in a vm is to pass an argument such askvm=off
This disable many CPU enhancements made by Microsoft almost defeating the point of GPU passthrough.
With the aforementioned compromise, you'd lose 30% of your performance.
Does anyone know what the problem is? The places icons only work when I use the file manager.
>Installed Arch from the script 4 days ago.
>Was actually just planning to learn a taste of what Linux systems are.
>Didn't plan on falling in love.
>Everything is already more functional than my win7.
>Better eye candy in my DE too.
>Pacman is seamless as fuck.
>Command line makes my work more productive. I use it more often than the IDE's now.
>Learned a ton about how UNIX systems, OSes in general and how kernals work in the process.
Goddamn I love my new OS so fucking much.
Thank you /ftl/. God bless every one of you.
Now that I've been a freetard for 4 full days. What distro should I should force my millenial friends to install?
If they're interested after seeing yours, send them Antergos, that way at least you can help if something goes wrong.
Don't be a sperg. Also, to be a freetard you would need Parabola or some other FSF distro but who wants that
I was thinking that too, but is it stable enough? Would something like Debain be better even though as you say I'm only familiar with pacman.
In general they do not like learning new things.
>Also, to be a freetard you would need Parabola or some other FSF distro but who wants that
I've been subscribed to the FSF newsletters for years (yes, despite using windows), so I know how autistic they be about their standards which I guess is why many devs are ignoring them nowdays. But yeah I was only joking about that anyway.
>Now that I've been a freetard for 4 full days. What distro should I should force my millenial friends to install?
Don't be retarded. If somebody is not genuinely interested in Linux, they're not going to try and learn it. Ubuntu is just polished enough for normies to consider it a more hipster MAC or something.
Best way from full normie to full autist would be:
Ubuntu > (maybe Debian) > Manjaro > Arch > Gentoo > LFS
Synopsis: babbydistro | feelsave && nextdistro || babbydistro
Suggesting plain arch or debian ends up in file chooser and drake threads.
I like file chooser memes
>No file picker in Linux
>Why kde, it's 39 more dependencies, my toaster HDD is out of space
Use the patched file picker
>It is an unofficial package
It's adopted by fedora
Use KDE then
Winniggers are always goot at staying on the excuse loop
Does anyone know how to modify these entries in Windows Maker?
(screenshot from wmakerlive website)
I want either to get rid of them or put different programs there.
This is actually pretty decent.
Shows normies it doesn't operate from the CLI or that it looks like win95 which is what most of them unironically believe.
Honestly, I bet you could convince a lot of poeple to switch from windows if you just said "it's like Android!".
>Only recently hopped on Linux
>Just finished installing Arch for the first time
>Downloading package after package through pacman (which feels weirdly satisfying to use), getting my computer closer and closer to the completed desktop that I want it to be
>tfw this whole process is exciting
>tfw getting more excited with every step forward
th-thank you for showing me the way /flt/
i'm never going back
>Why I Don't Call It “GNU/Linux”
>In some quarters, it's politically correct to call the Linux operating system the
>“GNU/Linux operating system.” The problem with “Linux” is that there is no
>completely correct way to name it because it was written by many different people
>in a vast, distributed development effort. Technically speaking, Linux is the
>name of the operating system's kernel, nothing more. The kernel is very important
>of course, since it makes the operating system go, but it's not enough to form a
>complete operating system.
>Enter Richard Stallman, the genius-philosopher who founded the Free Software
>movement, started the Free Software Foundation, formed the GNU Project, wrote
>the first version of the GNU C Compiler (gcc), created the GNU General Public
>License (the GPL), etc., etc., etc. He insists that you call it “GNU/Linux” to properly
>reflect the contributions of the GNU Project. While the GNU Project predates
>the Linux kernel, and the project's contributions are extremely deserving of recognition,
>placing them in the name is unfair to everyone else who made significant
BSD question, with a bonus Linux query. I should probably ask in /dpt/ but I have this thread open right now.
Is there something special I have to do with FreeBSD's opendir() in dirent.h to get it to read files on an NFS mount point? My program works fine on Linux, but returns nothing on FreeBSD.
As for the Linux question, what is going on here? The exact same source compiles fine on FreeBSD, but produces this error on both Linux systems I've just tried.
Also, it was compiling just fine a few days ago. The only libs I've uninstalled recently come from the steam-libs package, so I can't see that being the issue. Clearly I'm doing something stupid.
For why it's not compiling, DT_DIR is behind a preprocessor conditional:#ifdef __USE_MISC
I think GCC uses that to include things BSDs typically use. Add -D__USE_MISC to the gcc command line options.
put it in root's crontab# crontab -e
add those line@reboot echo -n 250 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
@reboot echo -n 180 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity
>Install Arch + LXDE
>a bit bare, but gets more comfy as I customise
>want to add stuff to panel
>HUD disappears completely, nothing works
>hard reboot PC
>infinite clear terminal
not being able to start the DE at all anymore probably means I have to reinstall it though. The log says that a shitton of keyfiles don't have a key and some child processes not being able to execute (among them ssh-agent)
nothing that I know of. After startx I was just fiddling with the interface a bit to make it nicer. I did stuff like that for about half an hour and when I tried to do a thing I did 100 times before it crashed.
He would be a Macfag or Windows 10 user shilling for free, raging and posting irrelevant and illogical anti-Linux moomoo. He's the type of guy who would fly into a narcissistic rage and blame Linux if he himself messed up his system.
There is no best. Any distro can be changed into something different. It all depends on what you need and want in your distro. Many people consider things like repositories, package manager, rolling or point release, etc.
Just start with one of the Ubuntu flavors instead of procrastinating about what is the best.
I was going to add it to the wiki, but there's already tons of resources there.
It doesn't necessarily add anything extra that isn't already covered, but it's a nice collection of most things you'd need to know in a single pdf.
>Should I just go back to Windows?
Suicide is always an option too remember. But yeah, everyone who uses linux but be putting up with screen tearing and just keeping quiet about it.
Your icons are most likely in ~/.icons and root is using its own icons. Install them to /usr/share/icons if you want them to work with all accounts.
I think that is your issue at least.
I've decided I want to use Debian as my first serious Linux distro. I'll install it for dual boot with Windows 7 because I'm not dumb.
Any tips for beginners? I heard Ubuntu made them make the installing process easier, but I'm not sure.
don't use a root password during install, then debian will configure sudo for you by default, go with xfce+compton, make /home a separate partition in case you ever want to reinstall, and use the non-free iso in case you need it. remember to have fun.
xfce has screen-tearing issues so you need to do>>52508426 after installing. the non-free iso is located here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/
but only use this if you need it, otherwise the official one is fine.
it's easier with windows 7. what's your issue? is windows already installed? shrink your partition in computer management and install debian on the empty space. it's literally that easy.
50gb is okay for testing it out but it hurt me when i first tried it because i started using it for everything other than gaming. but go for 50gb and make /home a separate partition. read the installation guide on the debian site if you need help. even better would be to install it in a virtual machine once, virtualbox is pretty easy to use.
I'll learn to deal with it then
So in yesterday's thread, I asked how to use a bheringer uca202 in fedora 23. I got it working on mpv and deadbeef by using .asoundrc, but it wont work in firefox. How do I get sound on firefox?
You can set grub to default to a particular boot option. However, it simply uses an index of the order they appear in.
This is fine so long as you NEVER update your kernel, as that'll add 1 or 2 more options to the list every update, fucking up the indexing.
Best option is to set grub to "default to last", that way it'll default to whatever you booted last time.
To do this, open up: /etc/default/grub (e.g. sudo nano /etc/default/grub) and add these 2 lines anywhere in the file, near the top helps you edit it later if you want to:GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
You may want to edit whatever GRUB_TIMEOUT is set to (in seconds) too, this is how long you get the selection screen before it uses whatever is highlighted without pressing enter.
Then runsudo update-gruband reboot.
Are you using Fedora?
Yesterday I tried Fedora and had the same problem.
GNOME extensions would not work. Like everything was faded and the on/off button was missing.
Also, the extension list in GNOME Tweak Tool was empty even though I had gnome-extensions-common and user-themes installed.
Shit was broken as fuck.
A long time ago I had it default to a specific kernel, and I hardly updated on debian stable so it didn't seem like a problem.
I hardly used Windows, so when I did need it of course there were ~50 updates waiting for me. I let them run, go for a coffee break expecting it to reboot and be finished by the time I get back.
But no, of course it rebooted back to debian so I had to restart again and wait at my desk for the fuckers to finish. Never again.
Oh also, if you remember the order of the list, you can usesudo grub-set-default xto set what will be highlighted on the next restart (but it doesn't save it).
Works great if you just wanna boot into windows for 5 mins and know you'll want to return to linux next reboot.
I haven't used a GNU/Linux distro in about three years, but I'm ready to go at it again now.
What easily customizable, but not over-the-top distribution should I get for my machine?
Basically everything but Arch Linux and the likes of Ubuntu
I'm retarded, it'ssudo grub-reboot x, notsudo grub-set-default x
The latter WILL save the default, the former is only for the next cycle, reverting to whatever it is currently afterwards.
I am using Linux (Arch) for everything and have not touched Windows in years, at home or for work (uni ftw).
Now, I want to build a small pc (mini ITX) for home office and occasional gaming. Haven't used a desktop or played games in ages. This is my first build from scratch.
I am unsure to which degree playing games is possible in Linux. I have no idea whether steam works ok. Ideally, the less I need to use Windows the better, but it will probably need to be dual boot. Pic related, after reading for a few hours I took these suggestions for a build from a guide.
I have read that AMD GPU driver support is crap in Linux, any alternative GPU I should consider? Any other obvious mistakes? Too much for what I have in mind?
newer amd cards on recent kernel versions are not too bad actually but nvidias proprietary drivers are still a bit better. get cheaper ram and a less overkill case. mindfactory.de>amazon
I've got a bunch of thumbnails in a few directories in a main directory.
I want to upload them to google image search, download the result page(text only), and check if page contains "not found", so I can delete them.
In the end I would end up with page results of images that were found. Then I would check them by hand to see if a higher-res version of image is available.
How would I do that? If I had images on a server, I would simply use wget http://www.google.com/searchbyimage?image_url=$url, but how do I upload an image?
it wanted me to create some ext4 and swaps and /boot and /home and / then it wanted some 1MB bios thing i don't know, so i clicked back and chose top choice that automatically does something.
don't bother with amd gpu on a linux box.
It's fucking trash. You would be better off on an intel iGPU.
If you want to be a manchild on linux, consider a relatively recent nvidia gpu, their drivers at least work
I thought you were asking about the closed drivers,
You should be fine, pic related, closed driver on windows vs open driver on linux
Hi, I'm a new Arch Linux user, and I'm having trouble with Pacman on ArchBang.
#] packman -Syy>
(132/132) checking keys in keyring [######################] 100%
downloading required keys...
error: key "7F2D434B9741E8AC" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "F99FFE0FEAE999BD" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "976AC6FA3B94FA10" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "786C63F330D7CB92" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "51E8B148A9999C34" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "A5E9288C4FA415FA" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "BBE43771487328A9" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "94657AB20F2A092B" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "6D1655C14CE1C13E" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "5F702428F70E0903" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "06096A6AD1CEDDAC" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "B02854ED753E0F1F" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "1EB2638FF56C0C53" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "E62F853100F0D0F0" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "AFF5D95098BC6FF5" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "7A4E76095D8A52E4" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "771DF6627EDF681F" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "654B877A0864983E" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "A6234074498E9CEE" could not be looked up remotely
error: required key missing from keyring
error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
[root@sug Downloads]# sudo pacman -Sy
error: infinality-bundle: signature from "bohoomil (dev key) <email@example.com>" is unknown trust
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community-testing is up to date
community is up to date
error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle.db' from bohoomil.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed to update infinality-bundle (unexpected error)
error: database 'infinality-bundle' is not valid (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))
What am I doing wrong?