FLT - Friendly Linux/gnu/linux Thread

>>52500298
What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux

>>52500298
first for xubuntu comfy

Just started using CentOS because I want to try out rpm and yum.

Any advice for a guy used to Debian?

> he forgot the previous post
>>>52488037
>>>52488037
>>>52488037

>>52500347
Use DNF, YUM has been deprecated since 22.

It's pretty straightforward, not a whole lot of difference except for the package manager.

dnf search [package]

For multi-word searches, put the name in apostrophes, i.e. '4chan users'

dnf install [package]

dnf remove [package]

rpm -ivf [rpm file]

That's install, verbose, and I think force. I only ever use it when I just installed, to install RPMfusion: http://rpmfusion.org/

You do not have sudo by default, you have to su into root and enable that, which I do not recommend.

Other than that, pretty much just different names for software. Personally, I like Fedora-based distros better than Debian-based, but that's just me.

You'll have a similar level of support on the internet as you would with a *buntu distro, so any questions you need answered are a google search away.

>>52500347
I ran CentOS for a while on what I laughably call a home server. The only thing that kinda wrong-footed me was that I realized I'd gotten very used to Debian's enormous repos. The base stuff for servers and office desktops is all there like you'd expect, but the farther away from that you get the more you have to dig around in other additional repos.

>>52500409
DNF is pretty nice, I liked it when I had Fedora on my laptop

>>52500436
> Fedora
My man! I ran Fedora for two and a half years and adored it. Only quit because I wanted to try Gentoo.

>>52500409
>>52500436
Thanks guys. I'm using Comptia's 2012 Linux+ Certification book to guide me through and it didn't have anything about DNF. I'll be sure to read up on it.

>>52500488
CentOS might not use DNF by default yet. I know Fedora 22+ runs it, and I'm fairly confident RHEL does it.

At any rate, it should be enabled at least, so you'll be able to use it. If not, it's literally just a matter of substituting "dnf" for "yum" in the commands I gave.

>>52500524
Yeah, it seems fairly straight forward. Why don't they just fix what's wrong with yum instead of implement a new tool?

>>52500549
Not sure. I don't know the intimate technical details.

I imagine YUM was just a fucked system to begin with and it was more efficient to just implement a new one.

>>52500524
I don't think they do yet

>>52500470
I wound up leaving too, but to go in the opposite direction. I liked it, and wanted to stay, but too much stuff broke on updates for me (especially major ones, like 21 -> 22) I'm on Debian stable now (except for one machine that I have to run testing on for hardware support reasons)

>>52500620
I'm running a fresh install of 7 and it's not installed.

>tfw starting to actually git gud and comfortable with the linux terminal

Seriously, to the guy who recommend "The Linux Command Line" a while back, you're the real hero.

http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

First 6 chapters are a must-read: so many useful things explained in an easy way.

>>52500298
>Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended

Don't be a pussy

Do it

>>52501316
Noobs will fuck everything up and cry.
Then they create drake threads.

>>52501316
see
>>52501347
This is what I >>52501355
mean.

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>>52501355
I did it about eight months ago and now I can't even go back to Windows

>>52501384
thinking others are clever because you are clever isn't really clever

Deep web

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ndDU2HicA

>>52501347
The saddest part is that it's not even a meme.

>>52501496
But it is, faggot.

I'm trying to get Kubuntu 15.04 on my desktop on a separate hard drive than my main os. Grub seems to be confused and i can never seem to boot into kubuntu. Any ideas?

>>52501526
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/

kdelibs-dialog

>much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

How good is Wine? I hear they have directX 11 working. Is there anything wine can't do?

>>52501552
That's a common problem, i would ask in the kubuntu forums.

>>52501574
Wine is decent, however I'm not going to run Crysis 3 off of it. Windows is decent for gaming, but only because not as many folk offer compatibility for Linux users.

>>52501574
DIrectx 11 does not work. It works by falling back to either directx9 or opengl backends.

11 will never work in wine. They are only just finishing off dx9

Check appdb before you make any purchases

Can i install Freenet in Xen-Qubes OS?

Is it safe to allow pci passthrough in Xen when browsing the deepweb?

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>>52501579
What were you saying fucboi?

>>52501623
Pointless argument

>>52501621
If it runs java then it can

>>52501649
>thought he could prove FACTS wrong
>realized he couldn't
>deletes post thinking no one will see it
>hes deleted post comes to light
>"oh i was just having a giggle"
>you were wrong

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Good evening, friends! I hope this anonymous message finds you in sound health and uplifted spirits. It is a pleasure to share this sometimes inane arena of discussion with you all. Well, I must leave, as my break is over.

Remember to install GNU/Linux!

>>52501559
>need to mess with 3rd party patches just to get basic 1990s era features.
Never change, freetards.

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>>52500317
To be honest I fell for the stability meme and moved from Arch to Xubuntu LTS
Ironically after the first update my NumLock got reversed, something I never had to deal with while in Arch
So I came back home to Arch+Cinnamon. Shit just works
>>52501347
Every thread there will be at least ONE winnigger who will post dumb memes

linux is great

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>>52501551
Simply ebin

>>52501685
>dosent understand that literally every os has patches
>open up your windows 7/8/10 update history you have 100's of GB of update patches

I have preview with stock pcmanfm and nothing else.
If your manger does not offer it, you are free to install one that does,without aforementioned patches.
user laziness is not devs problem

>>52501687
It aint a meme if it's true, buddy.

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>>52501724
>Truth
Oh? I don't have any issues with my
>file upload box
Winbabby

>>52501718
Are you confusing official OS updates with 3rd party, user applied patches? Because they're very different things.
>Usability is not linux devs problem
We know. ;^)

>>52501777
>>52501347
Ebin memes /v/ you probably ran out of excuses
See >>52501778

>>52501706
> tfw Gentoo user
> tfw installing it was the most autistic endeavor of my life
> tfw my hobby is finding things to customize in my Gentoo install

This board turned me into an autist. I fell for every single meme they shilled.

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>>52501804
Did you fall for the epic deathadder mouce meme XDDDD yet?

>>52501791
> OS automatically applies hundreds of patches without your knowledge, doing god knows what, bloating your system and slowing everything down
> superior
> Needing to apply one patch to get a minor feature
> inferior

Nice logic.

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What distro would the Supreme Gentleman install?

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alright /flt/ i'm gonna do it
i've been a windowsfag my entire life but tonight i'll go balls deep into arch linux
not for freedom
but for a e s t h e t i c
wishmeluck

will post back here from my phone in case i fuck it all up

>>52501791
Distros apply their own patches to the software they put in their repos, independent of the upstream patches.
You clearly know nothing about development

>>52501823
I did not. I'm saving up for a thinkpad, though.

>>52501857
Linux Mint or Elementary, any OS that involves little work but could have things to blow way out of proportion and sperg out over.

>>52501855
Are you saying linux does not have official OS updates? If it does, why do you keep confusing the two?

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>>52501857
He strikes me as a true Arch linux dude
>Egocentric
>Hates casual normiecucks
>Is the supreme gentleman
>Elitism

>>52501934
that aesthetic as fuck facial structure

>>52501823
Gaymer shit has always been hated here

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I made this using 'convert' with a delay of 1. It's pretty much a blur when I play it with my image viewer (gnome something), but when I open it in firefox it's noticeably slower. Anyone know why?

>>52502308
turn this into the windmill of friendliness please

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What linux distro should I put on this computer for my dad that knows fuck all about computers?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883114006

It has 768MB of ram but I can up it to 2GB with two sticks from an old P4 machine I have.

This thing has XP on it and I think thats the only OS he has ever used so something similar in feel would be nice. I would just keep XP on it but its full of emachines bloatware and there is a possibility he will get internet hooked up at his house and I want him to have something that still receives updates and make it where he cant run random exes he finds on the internet

>>52502308
Firefox enforces strict gif frame delays, whereas your image viewer is probably just rendering as fast as your processor allows

tl;dr you're fucked, if you want it to be a blur, do some post-processing and stick to a frame delay greater than 0.02 seconds per frame

>>52502356
Gentoo.

or Fedora 23 LXDE spin.

Install Qubes OS

>>52502356
source of pic?

it's for science of course.

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>>52501857
>do reverse image search
>find this: https://imgur.com/a/YMwOp

>>52502308
use delay 10

I need a browser that isn't a botnet and is FOSS for linux,

Entirely new to linux so I can't use vi-like browsers.

>>52500298
Is getting libraries from a webservice possible? Can I for example, connect to this thing do all the compiling, and run whatever on my tiny hardware?

>>52503040
Chromium is FOSS

Is qupzilla a good browser?

Don't have GNOME or KDE, and was thinking of downloading it.

>>52502308
It renders identically on Microsoft Edge as it does on Firefox.

>>52503079
There's no reason you couldn't create a build targeted to a specific machine that happens to have a different hardware spec than the current machine.

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So many linux distributions!
But what is the BEST one?

>>52503218
Gentoo for ultimate freedom.
Arch for almost ultimate freedom.
Mint for newfags.

>>52503218
There is no best, all of them are terrible. If your linux works, you are not pushing it hard enough!

>>52503218
everyone has their own idea of how thing should be, and with the right tools it's fairly easy to roll your own linux on top of whatever base you choose

>>52503040
Palemoon.

https://www.palemoon.org/

my shit keeps freezing for no reason and I have to reboot. wat do? I'm on kubuntu 15.10.

>>52503284
Stop shitting outside. It's fucking snowing man.

>>52502684
SNIS-555

>>52502615
thanks

>>52503296
It's 37 degrees here, the shit freezing is unrelated to the weather

Are KDE users the macfags of linux?

>>52503311
well that went over your head

>>52503319
it's called meta-humor

Setting up VGAPassthrough on Virtual Machine Manager.
How do I set up local networking in addition to NAT?
I don't seem to be able to pass custom qemu arguments.

>>52503337
I'll meta your humor!

>>52500298
which:

atom-editor-bin or atom-editor from AUR

this is based on chrome, comes with the botnet??

What happen to shitty apps OP? did he died?

>>52503347
Godspeed anon, I just reinstalled Windows after failing to get VGA passthrough working

Hope you figure it out

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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as CVS is, in fact, CVS/Pharmacy. Many people go to CVS every day without realizing that there is a Pharmacy, maintained by the American Medical Association. There is a CVS, and people are using it, but most CVS stores are in fact, CVS/Pharmacy stores, using core pharmacy features like filling prescriptions and selling over-the-counter allergy medicines.

There's no shame in downloading a desktop environment, r-right?

Has anyone got any experience with triple booted windows, mac, linux (arch / debian) ?

>>52503316
Nope, Arch users are.

:^)

>>52503316
Linux Mint users are.
> just werks
> don't need to know how to do shit

If you use Mint for more than six months you're hopeless.

>>52503422
underrated post

>>52501461
:O

>>52503435
depends on why you're doing it

>just downloading and testing a DE
who cares
>using a DE because it does certain things more easily
eh, i guess it's fine, although you can probably do it with a standalone WM with 1) less bloat and 2) specific tailoring to your needs
>using a DE because you're literally a scrub who can't be arsed to learn anything non-Windows
fuck outta here

>>52502881
Not knowing the supreme gentleman
>>>/reddit/

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official food of arch linux

>>52503450
Arch+KDE+Straya cunt reporting in

Downloaded and installed Arch as my first distro,
couldn't get fonts to just werk,
decided I might have a better time with Gentoo,
(didn't believe the memes.)
>10 years compiling.

How autistic am I /g/?

>>52503529
i think its offense to actual autistic people to call everything autism, like some kids with sensory disabilities go through a living hell every day and yous till think that autism is allabout anime and DUDE LINUX LMAO

>2013+3
>still using debian
>more like DEadmanBIAN

>>52503542
autist detected

>>52503542
autists and retards don't posess the cognitive awareness to be offended by such things

>>52503450
>>52503514
>Too dumb for written instruction
>>52503464
>Being a NEET

>>52500298
which is the leanest graphic-stack available for linux?

>>52503514
I chuckled.

>>52503573
lul faget i'll ave ya know I am part of the 1337 gentoo sekrit klub.

So /flt/, why aren't you using Enlightenment right now?

Serious Linux noob here. Getting a dell XPS 8900 soon. It comes with Windows 10. I would like to install Debian or Ubuntu on it along with Windows 10.

Is this possible? I've heard some things recently about hardware being designed to work with only 1 os.

>>52503542
to be fair, autism is one of those spectrum-type things

the question "how autistic am I?" actually makes sense in that regard.

>>52503370
I have my R9 380 running perfectly in windows. I just need to get sound and networking correct.

>>52503726
>getting a prebuilt

I'm using a prebuilt desktop right now that I've had for nearly 5 years (which might sound OK, except that I had to switch out the shitty power supply unit that came with it). I genuinely wish I could have just built my own one -- especially given how easy switching out the PSU was and how non-scary the inside of my desktop actually is.

Regarding your question:

It's mostly because of something called UEFI, which replaced BIOS. For regular purposes, this somewhat complicates the installation process. For DIY installers (like Arch and minimal Debian), it's somewhat painful.

More disturbingly, UEFI comes with an option called Secure boot, which (when not disabled) makes installing alternative OSes basically impossible:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#Secure_boot_2

Microsoft forces manufacturers to ship Windows 10 with secure boot enabled, but recently, they've given them the option to not to allow Secure boot to be turned off.

I don't think any manufacturers have actually done that, yet. And for various reasons (cred amongst nerds, good faith, etc.), it's unlikely you'll ever see a big-name manufacturer ship with Secure boot as mandatory. In your case, your Dell desktop should be fine.

Still, bullshit like this is one of the many reasons why building your own computer isn't just some "meme". You literally don't run into problems like this.

>>52503726
If you have to ask, use Ubuntu.

You need to turn off secureboot.
There is one problem with Ubuntu, and which is addressed here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2303880

Does anyone have away to get all the mac key mappings for special characters without remapping the keys individually.
I mean, for example, things like
alt + w = ∑
alt + shift + o = O

>>52504499
In Linux? Using Xorg?

>>52504512
Yes. I suppose I could just create a custom .xmodmap file going through each one individually , but I can't believe someone hasn't done this already.

>>52504550
google a custom xmodmap for mac users.

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>>52504499
Why would you want to do that?

>>52504550
...or that there's not a better way,

I went balls deep and I actually like it. Only problem is I'm stuck as root user. I have tried adding non roots and every time I go to sign in as one, it will almost log in before resetting back to where I type the username in. Msfconsole won't connect to its databases either. Could really use some help if anyone wants to get ahold of me. Kik is trod1221, but please don't use this to fuck around.

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>>52504585
What is Kik?

>>52504609
I think it's something normies use.

>>52504562
I've used this system long enough that it is deep in my muscle memory. It's convenient when you very occasionally type in languages other than english to get characters like ß ö ç ñ.

alt + shift + o should be a large slashed 'o'

>>52504558
I've not found this thing. It's probably not too much work to make it from scratch though.

Installing Arch for the first time here. Installing a GUI has me a little stumped since I don't want to use a DE, but there's so many options for everything it's overwhelming.
What's a good DM and WM to use?

>>52504641
Well, you can do that via xbindkeys or simliar tools, but why dont you use the compose key? compose +o = o, compose +O = O
ALT_R
If you really want to remap keys, go with https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xmodmap

Did 4chan just strip characters?
Test, test.
Ŧ€sŧ, oO

>>52504692
Ok, I see. Nevermind.

>>52504631
It is. I hadn't realized I dove face first into a realm of third party only users

>>52504609
An app>>52504609

I want to execute

$ echo 250 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed
$ echo 180 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity

to increase the speed and sensitity of my trackpoint when I turn on my laptop.

How can I do it, since it requires sudo?

>>52503931
Well, not necessarily. High-Functioning Autism (Asperger's) would apply, but if you go much farther than that you get into "can barely function at all let alone operate a computer" territory.

So it sort of makes sense, but it's like that XKCD comic where the drunker you are, the better you are a programming, but it's a specific level of drunk.

Computer skill spikes at a certain point on the autism spectrum and then after than it drops off hard.

https://xkcd.com/323/

>>52504671
xfce

How do I get webms to play in the browser on linux?

>>52504805
Search in your package manager for webm, install libs you need.

>>52504889
Already have vp8, what else would I need?

Portage is my package manager.

What does /g/ thinks of opensuse tumbleweed?

what is the Arch equivalent of Ubuntu /etc/rc.local ?

>>52505060
I might be wrong here, but I think Arch still uses rc.local if you create it.

>>52504743
Create an init script or a systemd unit (depending on what your distro uses)

>>52504805
should be OOTB with modern browsers, what are you using?

>>52505493
Qupzilla on Gentoo linux.

I know I can get it to work if I just install the right thing.

>>52505453
I created a script

trackpoint.sh

in /usr/bin

echo 120 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/speed
echo 250 | sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/sensitivity

and a service [trackpoint.service] in /etc/systemd/system

[Unit]
Description=Increase trackpoint sensitivity

[Service]
ExecStart=/usr/bin/trackpoint.sh

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target % 

and finally ran the following commands

$ sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/my-script
$ sudo systemctl enable myscript.service

When I restarted my computer, nothing changed.

>>52505506
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/search?q=gst-plugins

What terminal emulator do you guys use?

Why does opening a Python shell in the terminal take up 100% of an entire CPU core even when it's inactive?

It doesn't actually burn that much right? Is it just to show that resources are dedicated to that shell?

It also seems to cycle cores.

>>52505543
Xterm

>>52505537
Thanks!
I'll install the correct plugins tomorrow, since I am done with gentoo for the day.

>>52505543
xfce4-terminal

Anyone else planning to buy an ATI FirePro V4800, $65, from eBay for Xen/KVM/Esxi?

With a FirePro or Quadro card, you'll be able to use Windows Hyper-v enlightenments without having to mess with config files.

Currently, the only way to use Geforce or GTX cards in a vm is to pass an argument such as

kvm=off

This disable many CPU enhancements made by Microsoft almost defeating the point of GPU passthrough.

With the aforementioned compromise, you'd lose 30% of your performance.

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Does anyone know what the problem is? The places icons only work when I use the file manager.

Pic related.

>>52503218
>KB

Slackware!

It's one of the few distros without SystemD. SystemD isn't even in the repositories.

>Installed Arch from the script 4 days ago.
>Was actually just planning to learn a taste of what Linux systems are.
>Didn't plan on falling in love.
>Everything is already more functional than my win7.
>Better eye candy in my DE too.
>Pacman is seamless as fuck.
>Command line makes my work more productive. I use it more often than the IDE's now.
>Learned a ton about how UNIX systems, OSes in general and how kernals work in the process.

Goddamn I love my new OS so fucking much.

Thank you /ftl/. God bless every one of you.


Now that I've been a freetard for 4 full days. What distro should I should force my millenial friends to install?

>>52505543
Only the best: urxvt.

>>52505878
Windows 2000

>>52505878
Nothing.
If they're interested after seeing yours, send them Antergos, that way at least you can help if something goes wrong.

Don't be a sperg. Also, to be a freetard you would need Parabola or some other FSF distro but who wants that

>>52505979
>Antergos
What is wrong with you?

>>52506002
It has a GUI installer and it's pure Arch after that. How does that not fit his needs ?

>>52505979
>Antergos
I was thinking that too, but is it stable enough? Would something like Debain be better even though as you say I'm only familiar with pacman.

In general they do not like learning new things.

>Also, to be a freetard you would need Parabola or some other FSF distro but who wants that
I've been subscribed to the FSF newsletters for years (yes, despite using windows), so I know how autistic they be about their standards which I guess is why many devs are ignoring them nowdays. But yeah I was only joking about that anyway.

>>52506023
Does he need a broken display manager as well?

>>52506050
Yeah, you can't go wrong with the typically recommended Debian, Mint, Fedora.

>>52506067
Does Arch only provide broken display managers ?

>>52505878
>Now that I've been a freetard for 4 full days. What distro should I should force my millenial friends to install?
Ubuntu.
Don't be retarded. If somebody is not genuinely interested in Linux, they're not going to try and learn it. Ubuntu is just polished enough for normies to consider it a more hipster MAC or something.

>>52506074
No, but I know Antergos does

>>52506074
I installed SDDM on mine which is supposed to be broken, but I've had zero problems with it. Works really well actually it picks up all my tiling managers as well.

>>52506090
k

>>52506087
This

Best way from full normie to full autist would be:
Ubuntu > (maybe Debian) > Manjaro > Arch > Gentoo > LFS

Synopsis: babbydistro | feelsave && nextdistro || babbydistro

Suggesting plain arch or debian ends up in file chooser and drake threads.

Hello /flt/, not really a problem, but kiddie hacking here: Is it possible to use cat as full cp, mv and rm replacement?

>>52505543
xfce4-terminal

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>>52506236
>>52501347
>>52501777
I like file chooser memes
>No file picker in Linux
Use KDE
>Why kde, it's 39 more dependencies, my toaster HDD is out of space
Use the patched file picker
>It is an unofficial package
It's adopted by fedora
>Why Fedora
Use KDE then
.
.
.
Winniggers are always goot at staying on the excuse loop

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Does anyone know how to modify these entries in Windows Maker?

(screenshot from wmakerlive website)

I want either to get rid of them or put different programs there.

>>52506354
good*

http://tour.ubuntu.com/en/
kek

>>52506398
>http://tour.ubuntu.com/en/
This is actually pretty decent.

Shows normies it doesn't operate from the CLI or that it looks like win95 which is what most of them unironically believe.

Honestly, I bet you could convince a lot of poeple to switch from windows if you just said "it's like Android!".

>>52506359

Holy shit I think I'm retarded. It's right on the very screenshot. Well this is embarrassing.

I disabled secure boot

>>52506430
I just kek'd about the amazon icon, but I guess windows users woun't regonize it like I do.

>>52506398
>Fullscreen dash
false advertising

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>Only recently hopped on Linux
>Just finished installing Arch for the first time
>Downloading package after package through pacman (which feels weirdly satisfying to use), getting my computer closer and closer to the completed desktop that I want it to be
>tfw this whole process is exciting
>tfw getting more excited with every step forward
th-thank you for showing me the way /flt/
i'm never going back

>>52506479
Its fun isn't. Even when your crap stops booting its satisfying to get it back up through a live cd. Have fun :)

>>52500776
>http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

>Why I Don't Call It “GNU/Linux”
>In some quarters, it's politically correct to call the Linux operating system the
>“GNU/Linux operating system.” The problem with “Linux” is that there is no
>completely correct way to name it because it was written by many different people
>in a vast, distributed development effort. Technically speaking, Linux is the
>name of the operating system's kernel, nothing more. The kernel is very important
>of course, since it makes the operating system go, but it's not enough to form a
>complete operating system.
>Enter Richard Stallman, the genius-philosopher who founded the Free Software
>movement, started the Free Software Foundation, formed the GNU Project, wrote
>the first version of the GNU C Compiler (gcc), created the GNU General Public
>License (the GPL), etc., etc., etc. He insists that you call it “GNU/Linux” to properly
>reflect the contributions of the GNU Project. While the GNU Project predates
>the Linux kernel, and the project's contributions are extremely deserving of recognition,
>placing them in the name is unfair to everyone else who made significant

>>52506479
>Downloading package after package through pacman

Yes, I too, took the super lightweight and efficient distro that is Arch and turned it into blobshit.

I regret nothing.

Is there anyway I can store CL string variables (like a directory A = '/home/...') in a way that it's saved in any terminal and I can access it on boot?

>>52506432
lol

BSD question, with a bonus Linux query. I should probably ask in /dpt/ but I have this thread open right now.

Is there something special I have to do with FreeBSD's opendir() in dirent.h to get it to read files on an NFS mount point? My program works fine on Linux, but returns nothing on FreeBSD.

As for the Linux question, what is going on here? The exact same source compiles fine on FreeBSD, but produces this error on both Linux systems I've just tried.
Also, it was compiling just fine a few days ago. The only libs I've uninstalled recently come from the steam-libs package, so I can't see that being the issue. Clearly I'm doing something stupid.

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>>52507101
Forgot my image

>>52501347
i preferred yesterday's argument, that shit was funny

>>52501316
I just did. Tried to install arch and ended up on debian jessie testing

>>52507101
>>52507113
For why it's not compiling, DT_DIR is behind a preprocessor conditional:

#ifdef __USE_MISC

I think GCC uses that to include things BSDs typically use. Add -D__USE_MISC to the gcc command line options.

>>52507152
>-D__USE_MISC
Actually wait, don't use that directly.
Use -D_BSD_SOURCE instead

>>52507181
You are the man. I saw the conditional but completely failed to take it into account. Apparently _BSD_SOURCE is deprecated, but _DEFAULT_SOURCE works. Thanks.

>>52506934
Save

A="/home/..."

to your ~/.bashrc

>>52506934
Save

A='/home/'

to your ~/.bashrc

>>52506934
Save

export A='/home/'

to your ~/.bashrc

>>52507252
>>52507261
>>52507267
>>52507284
>>52507299
is this the newest meme?

>>52507322
Save

alias A='/home/'

to your ~/.bashrc

>>52507327
Save

export A='/home/'

to your ~/.bashrc

put it in root's crontab

# crontab -e 

add those line

@reboot echo -n 250 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/speed

@reboot echo -n 180 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity

>Install Arch + LXDE
>a bit bare, but gets more comfy as I customise
>want to add stuff to panel
>HUD disappears completely, nothing works
>hard reboot PC
>startx
>infinite clear terminal
t-thanks Linux

>>52506934
Just use ~, it expands to your home buddy.

>>52504743
see
>>52507338

>>52507341
Welcome to linux.
Synopsis: Failure > Failure > Failure > Failure > Failure > The best system straight outta your dreams.

>>52507252
>>52507267
>>52507284
>>52507299
Thank you.

>>52507377
not being able to start the DE at all anymore probably means I have to reinstall it though. The log says that a shitton of keyfiles don't have a key and some child processes not being able to execute (among them ssh-agent)

>>52507409
>>52507341
What on earth did you do?
Things don't break for no reason.

>>52507343
Thank you friend.

>>52507415
I swear all I did was adding applications to my panel. Then suddenly the whole GUI disappeared with nothing working at all anymore, so I had to forcibly shutdown

>>52507409
Sounds like a problem with permissions.
Did you run something GUI related with sudo?

>>52507434
nothing that I know of. After startx I was just fiddling with the interface a bit to make it nicer. I did stuff like that for about half an hour and when I tried to do a thing I did 100 times before it crashed.

I'm trying to learn more about how configuration optionals like --(some optional) work. How are .cfg files are read etc.

Any one know a good resource to learn for this?

>>52507450
As workaround you could install a second WM, so you have at least X and a desktop. Get something lightweight like i3wm or openbox.

>>52507507
no, it won't even start anymore. all I get when I start LXDE via startx is a blank terminal
Other DEs work fine though, so I guess it can't be Xorg that's damaged.

>>52507466
Config files are usually parsed by a library and argv is pretty straightforward.

>>52501857
He would be a Macfag or Windows 10 user shilling for free, raging and posting irrelevant and illogical anti-Linux moomoo. He's the type of guy who would fly into a narcissistic rage and blame Linux if he himself messed up his system.

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>>52503218
There is no best. Any distro can be changed into something different. It all depends on what you need and want in your distro. Many people consider things like repositories, package manager, rolling or point release, etc.

Just start with one of the Ubuntu flavors instead of procrastinating about what is the best.

>>52507871
Thanks.

>>52500776
I was going to add it to the wiki, but there's already tons of resources there.
It doesn't necessarily add anything extra that isn't already covered, but it's a nice collection of most things you'd need to know in a single pdf.

>>52507148
>debian jessie testing

wat?

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COMPTOOOOOOOOOOON

>>52500317
nth for xubuntu comfy

I'm gonna switch from arch to Fedora. For this install I want a seperate /home. How much of my hdd should I devote to / and /home?

>>52508120
that shadow would look disgusting even if it were in the proper place

>>52504987
it's neat but a bit unstable at times. my favorite distro after debian testing.

>>52504987
It's a beloved operating system in its rolling release version.

You have read
https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed
I presume.

>>52505826
tell us the problem, then maybe someone will be able to help.
setz die sprache auf englisch nächstes mal, da ist es leichter hilfe zu finden.

>>52508120
GTK's fault.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Compton#Dual_shadow_on_some_GTK3_applications

>>52501879
How did that go for you?

I get screen tearing/ no v-sync when watching video or browsing in linux mint cinnamon? What do? Should I just go back to Windows?

>>52501879
>balls deep into arch linux
lol arch is like getting the tip in, go for gentoo weakling.

>>52508346
C O M P T O N
O
M
P
T
O
N

>>52508346
>Should I just go back to Windows?
Suicide is always an option too remember. But yeah, everyone who uses linux but be putting up with screen tearing and just keeping quiet about it.

>>52505826
Your icons are most likely in ~/.icons and root is using its own icons. Install them to /usr/share/icons if you want them to work with all accounts.

I think that is your issue at least.

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I've decided I want to use Debian as my first serious Linux distro. I'll install it for dual boot with Windows 7 because I'm not dumb.

Any tips for beginners? I heard Ubuntu made them make the installing process easier, but I'm not sure.

>>52508346
install compton and add
compton --backend glx --paint-on-overlay --vsync opengl-swc -f
to startup

>>52508425
don't use a root password during install, then debian will configure sudo for you by default, go with xfce+compton, make /home a separate partition in case you ever want to reinstall, and use the non-free iso in case you need it. remember to have fun.

>>52508156
Bump

>>52508467
2/3 for /home the rest for /

>>52508449
It doesn't seem like xfce and compton are the same thing, what do you mean?

And non-free iso?

>>52508482
xfce has screen-tearing issues so you need to do>>52508426 after installing. the non-free iso is located here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/
but only use this if you need it, otherwise the official one is fine.

>>52508507
I know how to find it, just asking why I would need it

>>52508530
Screen tearing issues you mongoloid

>>52508482
What the other anon said, also do remember to disable compositing in xfce before installing compton

>>52508530
it will make things easier if you need non-free drivers for wifi, sound, or your gpu (amd microcode outside of the actual driver is annoying)

Is the gnome extensions site not working for anyone else or is it just me?

>>52508539
askin about the non-free iso dumbo

>>52508561
thanks, I use a thinkpad t520 so I do

>>52508604
works fine for me, are you using firefox?
some extensions require manual install or restart of gnome-session
>system-monitor

Literally every single dual-booting guide with Debian 8 is with Windows 8 instead of 7.

Any help? I don't want to accidentally destroy my windows 7 installation.

>>52508881
it's easier with windows 7. what's your issue? is windows already installed? shrink your partition in computer management and install debian on the empty space. it's literally that easy.

>>52508908
oh, so there are so many guides 8 because the process is trivial with other OS, that makes sense

I have 185 GB free space, 50GB sounds right for Debian?

>>52508923
Should be fine, you can always access data on your windows partition from your Linux partition.

>>52508923
50gb is okay for testing it out but it hurt me when i first tried it because i started using it for everything other than gaming. but go for 50gb and make /home a separate partition. read the installation guide on the debian site if you need help. even better would be to install it in a virtual machine once, virtualbox is pretty easy to use.

>>52508951
>>52508945
This is a silly question, but is there any way to change the order of OSs in the boot loader? I want to be able to leave W7 as the default option for now

>>52506354
This is something that really should be the default upstream though.

>>52509019
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
there might be an option to do so but it's hard to find. i find arrow-keys to be convenient enough but have fun searching.

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>>52509123
>gnu.org

I'll learn to deal with it then

So in yesterday's thread, I asked how to use a bheringer uca202 in fedora 23. I got it working on mpv and deadbeef by using .asoundrc, but it wont work in firefox. How do I get sound on firefox?

>>52509019
check your bios settings?

>>52508507
>>52508449
OS installation gives me the option to install debian's DE and xfce, do I install both or only xfce?

>>52501857
>>52501934
anybody have that "this is very unsettling" image with this hero?

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>>52501879
>nothing so far
RIP anon 1998* - 2016+

>>52509019
>>52509123

You can set grub to default to a particular boot option. However, it simply uses an index of the order they appear in.
This is fine so long as you NEVER update your kernel, as that'll add 1 or 2 more options to the list every update, fucking up the indexing.

Best option is to set grub to "default to last", that way it'll default to whatever you booted last time.

To do this, open up: /etc/default/grub (e.g. sudo nano /etc/default/grub) and add these 2 lines anywhere in the file, near the top helps you edit it later if you want to:

GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true

You may want to edit whatever GRUB_TIMEOUT is set to (in seconds) too, this is how long you get the selection screen before it uses whatever is highlighted without pressing enter.

Then run

sudo update-grub

and reboot.

>>52509384
thanks mighty wizard

>>52508604
Are you using Fedora?
Yesterday I tried Fedora and had the same problem.
GNOME extensions would not work. Like everything was faded and the on/off button was missing.
Also, the extension list in GNOME Tweak Tool was empty even though I had gnome-extensions-common and user-themes installed.
Shit was broken as fuck.

>>52509376
why do we feel sir?

Netrunner looks nice, I've got a gaymen rig so KDE being kinda heavy isn't a problem. I never tried Arch so I'm going to try out Netrunner Rolling. Anyone have any experience with it?

>>52509393
A long time ago I had it default to a specific kernel, and I hardly updated on debian stable so it didn't seem like a problem.

I hardly used Windows, so when I did need it of course there were ~50 updates waiting for me. I let them run, go for a coffee break expecting it to reboot and be finished by the time I get back.
But no, of course it rebooted back to debian so I had to restart again and wait at my desk for the fuckers to finish. Never again.

Oh also, if you remember the order of the list, you can use

sudo grub-set-default x

to set what will be highlighted on the next restart (but it doesn't save it).
Works great if you just wanna boot into windows for 5 mins and know you'll want to return to linux next reboot.

Hello, mates!
I haven't used a GNU/Linux distro in about three years, but I'm ready to go at it again now.

What easily customizable, but not over-the-top distribution should I get for my machine?

Basically everything but Arch Linux and the likes of Ubuntu

>>52509505
Debian testing

>>52509471
I'm retarded, it's

sudo grub-reboot x

, not

sudo grub-set-default x

The latter WILL save the default, the former is only for the next cycle, reverting to whatever it is currently afterwards.

any reason to move on from antergos? was thinking about switching to debian testing

Awww yeah, I managed to install dualboot, thanks guys.

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I am using Linux (Arch) for everything and have not touched Windows in years, at home or for work (uni ftw).

Now, I want to build a small pc (mini ITX) for home office and occasional gaming. Haven't used a desktop or played games in ages. This is my first build from scratch.

I am unsure to which degree playing games is possible in Linux. I have no idea whether steam works ok. Ideally, the less I need to use Windows the better, but it will probably need to be dual boot. Pic related, after reading for a few hours I took these suggestions for a build from a guide.

I have read that AMD GPU driver support is crap in Linux, any alternative GPU I should consider? Any other obvious mistakes? Too much for what I have in mind?

Or should I just abandon the idea of Linux gaming altogether?

>>52509962
probably the better option

can't connect to ftp.es.debian.org to install something for some reason, any ways to get past this?

>>52509943
newer amd cards on recent kernel versions are not too bad actually but nvidias proprietary drivers are still a bit better. get cheaper ram and a less overkill case. mindfactory.de>amazon

I've got a bunch of thumbnails in a few directories in a main directory.
I want to upload them to google image search, download the result page(text only), and check if page contains "not found", so I can delete them.
In the end I would end up with page results of images that were found. Then I would check them by hand to see if a higher-res version of image is available.
How would I do that? If I had images on a server, I would simply use wget http://www.google.com/searchbyimage?image_url=$url, but how do I upload an image?

>>52509972
sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
change ftp to http

Is Solaris acceptable to discuss here?

>installing Linux Mint
>installer can't find wlan with hidden sid
>disk partition is cluster fuck

I wonder what else there is waiting for me.

>>52510146
>disk partition is cluster fuck
what are you on about?

>>52510167
it wanted me to create some ext4 and swaps and /boot and /home and / then it wanted some 1MB bios thing i don't know, so i clicked back and chose top choice that automatically does something.

thank you for the pointers!

>>52509943
>>52509962
don't bother with amd gpu on a linux box.
It's fucking trash. You would be better off on an intel iGPU.
If you want to be a manchild on linux, consider a relatively recent nvidia gpu, their drivers at least work

>>52510213
i know that this has been true a while back but it really has changed. the open amd driver on 4.2+ has been really stable and functional for me in the 300 series.

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>>52510246
I thought you were asking about the closed drivers,

You should be fine, pic related, closed driver on windows vs open driver on linux

how to understand udev rules

don't care whether open or closed. not an autistic manchild or foss fundamentalist either. all my work is on linux and dual booting is annoying.

>>52510285
>installed xubuntu
>get drivers for GPU
>still can't get a decent fucking framerate on neotokyo compared to the framerate on windows
linux is suffering

>>52510534
>using AMD at all
your fault.

>>52510534
>neotokyo
i don't see a GNU/Linux version, where do i find it?

>>52510617
I run it through wine although the game crashes if textures are set to high

>>52510577
>tfw poor
one day

>>52510641
does it really have better fps on nvidia or are you just disappointed that wine a shit?

>>52503464
I resent that. Why change distros when Mint justwerks?

Next thread: >>52510909

>>52520000

>>52501778
Can I have that anime girl pic?

Hi, I'm a new Arch Linux user, and I'm having trouble with Pacman on ArchBang.

#] packman -Syy>
(132/132) checking keys in keyring [######################] 100%
downloading required keys...
error: key "7F2D434B9741E8AC" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "F99FFE0FEAE999BD" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "976AC6FA3B94FA10" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "786C63F330D7CB92" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "51E8B148A9999C34" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "A5E9288C4FA415FA" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "BBE43771487328A9" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "94657AB20F2A092B" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "6D1655C14CE1C13E" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "5F702428F70E0903" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "06096A6AD1CEDDAC" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "B02854ED753E0F1F" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "1EB2638FF56C0C53" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "E62F853100F0D0F0" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "AFF5D95098BC6FF5" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "7A4E76095D8A52E4" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "771DF6627EDF681F" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "654B877A0864983E" could not be looked up remotely
error: key "A6234074498E9CEE" could not be looked up remotely
error: required key missing from keyring
error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

wat do.

How do I make rxvt-unicode the default terminal emulator in awesome?
Want to change basic things like fonts and shell before I start changing the awesome config.

>>52508358
Not him but I fell for the gentoo meme.

It's my first distro and I don't even know how to do anything.

Will continue to use gentoo though, I might learn how to make it just werk.

What's the most recent version of Solaris?

>>52508120
Dont listen to the others, theres an option to disable that. You need to exclude shadows from menus. Check the manpage.

>>52512483
Change the setting ing rc.lua.

>>52512404
Try pacman --refresh-keys and double check that you've got an working internet connection.

[root@sug Downloads]# sudo pacman -Sy
error: infinality-bundle: signature from "bohoomil (dev key) <[email protected]>" is unknown trust
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core is up to date
extra is up to date
community-testing is up to date
community is up to date
error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle.db' from bohoomil.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed to update infinality-bundle (unexpected error)
error: database 'infinality-bundle' is not valid (invalid or corrupted database (PGP signature))

What am I doing wrong?

>>52514772
What you need to ask is "what did I do". Did you attempt to add a repo or worse, a PPA ?

>>52508425
>misaligning your QPUs

>>52514828
I smiled.

>>52514772
Read the wiki

does anyone know if evolution is still recommended for installing arch?
their website says they're working on something else

>>52518770
I think Architect is "in" now.

>>52518919
any torrent downloads?
I haven't found any, sourceforge is molasses slow

>>52503363
the -bin just means its precompiled, I doubt it contains any malware. Just please don't use atom, you're encouraging the memescript bloatshills