AMD is doing the same thing

Nvidia Pascal support will be exclusive for ones who buy Service Pack 1

So what? Will Windows 7 simply BSOD if you're running it on a Next-gen CPU?

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> 30x better graphics

ff

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>>52498606
They are probably comparing their next gen top tier iris pro to their absolute bottom tier Westmere garbage

>..sticking with the tried-and-true Windows 7. (Windows 8, not so much.)

retards.

Windows 8.1 is the best version. It's like Windows 10 except actually a complete package and not an unstable, botnet piece of shit. Only morons who are completely out of the loop do not understand this.

Windows 7 is slow as fuck, virus ridden and gets less support every day.

>>52499434
8 doesn't have dx12

> will require Windows 10

Does that mean no Linux support?

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>>52499450
# R E K T
R
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K
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>>52499450
>>52499469
here is a picture of every single game that supports or plans to support DX12.

By the time DX12 support actually matters, windows 10 will (hopefully) no longer be an unstable piece of shit. In the meantime, 8.1 is better.

>>52499514
how hard in theory will ports between DX12 and Vulcan be?

they seem like virtually the same API (i.e., basically no abstraction layer and userspace drivers just talk to the GPU in its native command language).

>>52498606
Yea, didn't you know that "graphics" is a unidimensional quantity, and that executive vice presidents are the most adept at estimating its value accurately?

>>52499434
>Windows 7 is slow as fuck, virus ridden and gets less support every day.

Lel. 10% are still on XP, and most applications and utilities still support it, while you whine how "ancient" 7 supposedly is?

As for the botnet issue, newsflash: 7 and 8.1 have it too, unless you are playing whack-a-mole with Windows updates and constantly track which to avoid/uninstall, rinse, repeat at nauseam.

>>52498526
THIS JUST IN, NEW HARDWARE FEATURES REQUIRE SOFTWARE DESIGNED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!

Seriously, anyone else remember the advanced c states introduced with Haswell, which only works with windows 8 and on? Doesn't mean Haswell won't run Windows XP if you insist on installing it but XP will never be able to take advantage of the newer power management features.

>>52499467
Yea, that's the most important issue, what about OSes entirely other than Windows to begin with? SecureBoot now completely hardwired into CPUs or what?

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>Everyone on /g/ hates Windows 10
>Download it anyway
>Disable Update Service after 1511
>Disable Security
>Disable Telemetry
>Work around UAC
>Get Classic Start Menu
>Enjoy video games
>Enjoy 15 Second Boot times on a 5 year old WD Drive
>Enjoy Better Startup Control
>Enjoy Windows 10

I really do not understand the hate 10 gets. I hated 8 but 10 is actually fucking great.

>>52499906
Read the damn article a d stop posting if you're going to show that you're thick as bottled shit.

For the record, secureboot is a good thing and all operating systems should support it. If you don't understand why then I suggest you read up on it.

>windows 10 embracing silicon innovation
lol what a load of fluff. Are they trying to tell people they didn't "embrace" performance enhancements with previous windows versions?

>>52499434
U know nothing>>52499847
Holy shit its femenist from dg

I haven't read any of the articles but can someone please spoonfood me: does this mean that old/non-Windows OS's won't WORK on newer CPUs, or that MS support just won't help you if you have a new CPU?

>>52500037
Who are you quoting?

>>52499877
>>As for the botnet issue, newsflash: 7 and 8.1 have it too, unless you are playing whack-a-mole with Windows updates and constantly track which to avoid/uninstall, rinse, repeat at nauseam.
7 and 8.1 at least let you do that if you care to. 10 gives you the botnet whether you want it or not, bypasses the hosts file to make sure its "telemetry" spyware delivers its messages, and not only gives you no say in which updates to download, but doesn't even so much as give you patch notes. You literally have to block a bunch of MS IPs on your router to stop it.

>>52500037
The problem with your post is that by "disabling telemetry" you actually did absolutely nothing. It still has telemetry. It acts like malware. Your settings literally do not matter. Micro$oft pretty much confirmed it themselves, literally.

>>52498526
>Windows 8.1 and under won't run on next gen CPUs
FTFY

>>52500037
>disable security and updates
lol enjoy you're botnet

>>52500164
Thanks anon. I will enjoy being a botnet.

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>>52500152
Your point? I am not a paranoid lunatic. They can have the basic amount of data they receive with Telemetry off. I have nothing to hide.

>Actually, unironically thinking Microsoft is using this Basic User Data to track everything you do and have gay sex with the NSA.

>>52500120
It means Microsoft are saying they won't implement new hardware features in old versions of Windows and warning that new hardware may not get drivers for old versions of Windows.

There, consider yourself spoonfed. This is a whole load of noise about absolutely nothing.

>>52500192
>i have nothing to hide

such a shit argument
you don't care that a corporation knows your every move on the computer?

>>52500179
Your already botnet.

>>52498526
This is clickbait.

>>52499514
>no Dirt
Wrong. You're not even trying, shitposter.

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>>52500208
They don't though. They know, at most, basic information like my IP Address and Computer Hardware. I know /g/ likes to tin foil but the Telemetry, on or off, is not even that big of a deal.

>inb4 that Wireshark WebM that makes Windows 10 look scary

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>>52499890
>Doesn't mean Haswell won't run Windows XP if you insist on installing it but XP will never be able to take advantage of the newer power management features.
as I read it, this is pretty much what this news is. I'd wager good money Win 7 will still boot, install, and run on new CPUs, it's just a few bells and whistles won't work. OEMs (HP, Dell, and so on) will probably stop driver support for their machines. Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, and Nvidia/AMD will probably continue support, since, unlike the OEMs, upgraders and home-builders are a large part of their market.

>>52500192
>I have nothing to hide.
pic related. If you choose to share some data, that's your choice to make, but MS is in no way shape or form justified in making it compulsory.

>>52499514
Its Q1 2016 nigger, not all new games have been announced. Using numbers to satiate your rationale is autistic.

>>52500037
>>Get Classic Start Menu for 10
> "I hated 8 but 10 is actually fucking great."

so uh... why did you hate 8 again? Classic shell / start menu was first released on it because 90% of the whining about 8 was due to Metro. Everything you said on that list of
>Enjoy x
is the same in Windows 8.1 as it is in 10, only less botnet, more supported and more stable

>>52500262
And they can easily link that to a real identity. Remember that even "anonymized" datasets can be de-anonymized with about 95% accuracy given only a couple pieces of basic demographic info. Of course if you give your real name to a MS account, or set up a payment method on their app store, or receive email tied to your identity at an Outlook account, or if MS just purchases a commercially available targeting database from any one of a hundred companies, they've tied your machine to your identity. And do you really expect them to do nothing with such a database once they have it?

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>>52500037
It is great, but there is a fuck ton of bullshit you have to turn off. The average user is getting fucked over even if they don't mind this stuff. The constant attempts to force people into upgrading make it look even worse even if they have some good intentions.

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>>52500333

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>>52500164
>>52500179
>>52500211

>>52499847
Or is it mna

>>52498526
>AMD is doing the same thing
Jesus fuck everyone in here is retarded.......
You people dont understand how things even work do you?

Only specific features (speed shift) will need 10 to work, so stop blowing this Armageddon all over /g/ and suck on someones else dicks for once.....

>>52500201
People are still in denial about Microsoft's commitment to their new direction for Windows.
If you don't like the direction Microsoft is heading, its time to switch away from their products. Windows 7 is a legacy platform now just like the Amiga was in the late 90s. Sure you can keep using it but you have to accept that you're a relic.

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>>52500321
Why exactly does it matter if they have my name, IP, and hardware in a database? Most websites already do this anyway. When you buy from Newegg are you concerned they have your real name, email address, and possibly Credit Card info? This argument is almost as retarded as installing Gentoo.
>>52500270
Privacy isn't being broken though, see above.
>>52500316
Windows 8 is slow as fuck compared to 10 and 8.1 barely improved it.

>Unironically using botnet as an argument
>>52500333
Went like this
>Download Windows to USB
>Install
>Update
>Turn off Security
>Turn off Updates
>Disable Telemetry
>Get Classic Start Menu

Took me literally 45 minutes to install and debloat Windows 10. The only other thing I ended up doing was getting rid of OneDrive because its cancer. I do completely agree that the forcing upgrades on people is retarded though. If some of you niggers want to stay on 7 or 8 go for it, forcing people to update just forces them away from Windows.

>a bloo bloo, botnet! botnet!
>telemetry is always turned on! can't watch cp!

Grow up faggots

>>52500430
>Windows 8 is slow as fuck compared to 10 and 8.1 barely improved it.

this is blatantly false

>>52500449
heresay unless you prove it

>>52500430
Please help me. How do I remove OneDrive and Cortana forever

>>52500381
Uhh what

>>52498606

>120K displays when

>>52500430
>Windows 8 is slow as fuck compared to 10 and 8.1 barely improved it.
THEY'RE LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING OS

They just changed the GUI and added telemetry

holy shit

just

get out

>>52500430
>Disable Telemetry
How did you deal with the kernel level spyware that will still phone home?

>Turn off Updates
>Turn off Security
Seems like an insanely bad idea.

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>>52500449
No it isn't. I got noticable speed improvements when I upgraded.

>>52500465
Google is your friend but on a basic level.

>https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

That should cover it, if not just google it.

>>52500481
No they didn't.

>>52500487
I updated to 1511 before I disabled the updates. I will turn them back on whenever I "need" to update. I just like to update on my own time. Windows Security is garbage though so it should be off anyway and once again see >>52500430 and >>52500262

>>52500430
>>Why exactly does it matter if they have my name, IP, and hardware in a database? Most websites already do this anyway. When you buy from Newegg are you concerned they have your real name, email address, and possibly Credit Card info?
Well, for one thing, with some basic cookie management and blocking, I can ensure that the only things Newegg knows about me are things I do on Newegg's website. Newegg doesn't know about what other websites I visit, or about anything else I do on my computer. MS is an operating system vendor. The OS necessarily sees everything that goes on on the machine, so I expect it to not say a peep about anything. For a second thing, yes, I am concerned about retail analytics. Ever read that story about how Target figured out a teenage girl was pregnant based on her shopping habits and sent her a catalog of baby shit before she'd told her parents? I avoid using plastic there and at other places as a result.

>Privacy isn't being broken though, see above.
So MS knows who you are, and has the capacity to collect data about literally everything you do on your computer. What times you use it, what programs you run, what websites you visit, and plenty else. And they don't let you turn it off. Do you really think they'd go to the trouble of collecting this information if they didn't intend to use it? Even if you trust them with it, what if the next CEO changes course in a few years, and decides to go full Google? You won't be able to tell them to forget what they know about you.

>>52500568
>implying anyone will read your wall of text

>>52499877

>installing windows updates

lol

>>52500481
This, kind of. The jump from 7 to 8 was massive, the jump from 8 to 10 was miniscule

>>52500459
http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7/

Slightly faster here, slightly *slower* there. But to say 8.1 is "slow as fuck" compared to Win 10 is, as I said, blatantly false

>>52500577
Why is reading a slightly longer paragraph or tow that much of a seemingly insurmountable mental challenge these days?

>>52499434

What a fucking idiot.

>>52499890
Jesus finally a voice of reason. Thanks anon.

Also, in win 7, I did get rid of the auto download and tray reminder for win10 upgrade. I didn't bother with the telemetry, but instead press start, typed "experience" clicked the thing, and opted out of botnet. Yeah it doesn't work so easily on 10, but 7, there's not such a hassle.

>>52500595
>the jump from 8 to 10 was miniscule
The irony being, they skipped an entire version number, including bumping the kernel version from the original 6.4 to 10.0. The moment sales and marketing takes over authority over kernel versioning, you should know that something is terribly wrong.

>>52500577

>being so illiterate that 10 lines of text is scary

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>>52500577
>Oh, that's just fine print that our lawyers say has to be there. No need to read it, heh, heh, heh...

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>>52500568
>Well, for one thing, with some basic cookie management and blocking, I can ensure that the only things Newegg knows about me are things I do on Newegg's website.
Same with Microsoft except they only know Hardware, IP, and possibly my name if I link it to a Hotmail/Live Account.
>MS is an operating system vendor. The OS necessarily sees everything that goes on on the machine, so I expect it to not say a peep about anything.
That isn't how this shit works. If it was sending data you would know what data it was sending. Sorry to ruin your Orwellian Nightmare.
>I avoid using plastic there and at other places as a result.
That is your choice, but I don't have anything I am getting in the mail, virtual or real, from Microsoft. So I am not really sure how this relates to anything at hand.
>So MS knows who you are, and has the capacity to collect data about literally everything you do on your computer.
They have the capacity to know who you are. They do not collect literally everything you do. They have the ability to, but they don't. If you wanna give me a source that they are, I will gladly accept it though.
>And they don't let you turn it off.
They do. I just did when I installed Windows 10 and disabled Telemetry.
>Do you really think they'd go to the trouble of collecting this information if they didn't intend to use it?
They outright tell you they intend to use it to help make the OS better and prevent problems. So I KNOW they intend to use it.
>Even if you trust them with it, what if the next CEO changes course in a few years, and decides to go full Google?
Then I don't sign the Terms and I move onto Gentoo or some other OS?
>You won't be able to tell them to forget what they know about you.
They can't legally do anything with that info if I don't sign the Terms m8. Next you are going to tell me they operate above the law right? :^)

>>52500632
>he pointed out the glaring problems with my comfy long time OS that I'll never ever change
>"fucking idiot"

stay salty moron. I bet you stayed on XP until 2011

>>52500689

You're the clueless faggot that implied that 7 is somehow "slow as fuck, virus ridden and gets less support every day." You know that the business market is where Microsoft really makes its money, don't ya, Champ? And 7 is in much, much higher use than 8, 8.1, and 10 fucking combined in that space.

Now go back to picking your nose and eating it and shut the fuck up.

>>52498526
its microsoft that is fucking you, not AMD and intel
>>52498576
no you retard.
the only thing you wont get is like enhanced speed step or any new

>>52500677
>That isn't how this shit works. If it was sending data you would know what data it was sending. Sorry to ruin your Orwellian Nightmare.
could someone post that webm of wireshark showing all the connections made when the start menu, control panel, etc are opened? I don't have it to hand.

>They have the capacity to know who you are. They do not collect literally everything you do. They have the ability to, but they don't.
Do you trust them to abstain? If so, why? Do you trust that they will always abstain in the future? Again, why?

>They outright tell you they intend to use it to help make the OS better and prevent problems. So I KNOW they intend to use it.
what if their vision for "making the OS better" includes things that you don't think make the OS better? Like, for instance, placing (more) ads in the start menu?

>Then I don't sign the Terms and I move on
well by then it's too late, anon. You already gave them the data and signed the consent form. They have it, and you can't stop them from using it as they please, now. That's why, even if you choose to trust them with that, one should always have the option of not giving them any data at all. They can't misuse something they don't have.

>Next you are going to tell me they operate above the law right? :^)
So Comey comes to them with an NSL stating that they have to give the government whatever it wants and not tell anyone, compromising whatever security is necessary to make that happen. Happened to Lavabit. They're already on Snowden's leaked slides as cooperating with PRISM, one of the first ones to, as a matter of fact. So yes, actually.

>>52500037
that doesnt fix the shitty memory leaks that makes the computer un usable

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>>52500723
I don't care what businesses do. There are a thousand reasons why it would be that way, not least of all the original Windows 8's awful reputation and Windows 7 being cheaper/available for much longer.

Look at the benchmarks in this site:
http://www.techspot.com/review/1042-windows-10-vs-windows-8-vs-windows-7/

Notice how windows 7 is miles behind both 8.1 and 10 pretty much across the board? That is what actually matters here

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>>52498526
When will 7fags realize they're the new XPfags?

Just switch to linux already we already know you've finally woken up.

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>>52500783
>could someone post that webm of wireshark showing all the connections made when the start menu, control panel, etc are opened? I don't have it to hand.
You actually posted it. Top fucking kek. Someone ACTUALLY posted it. >>52500262

>Do you trust them to abstain? If so, why? Do you trust that they will always abstain in the future? Again, why?
We don't even know if they have the data at all. I do not trust them to abstain in the future, which is why I read things before I sign them.

>what if their vision for "making the OS better" includes things that you don't think make the OS better? Like, for instance, placing (more) ads in the start menu?

What Start Menu? The one everyone and there mom disables upon installing Windows 10? That one?

>well by then it's too late, anon. You already gave them the data and signed the consent form. They have it, and you can't stop them from using it as they please, now. That's why, even if you choose to trust them with that, one should always have the option of not giving them any data at all. They can't misuse something they don't have.

Are you retarded? If you don't sign terms they can't use the data. How fucking dense are you m8

>So Comey comes to them with an NSL stating that they have to give the government whatever it wants and not tell anyone, compromising whatever security is necessary to make that happen. Happened to Lavabit. They're already on Snowden's leaked slides as cooperating with PRISM, one of the first ones to, as a matter of fact. So yes, actually.

>Unironically beliving that anyone operates above the law
>Actually believing this

Only on 4chan™

>>52500843
>windows 10 goes to sleep 1 second faster
It's over windows 7 is finished!

>>52500845
The nine years between Windows 95 and XP SP2 were a fucking eternity, but Windows 7 is a pretty recent thing really. 2009 was not long ago.

>>52500871
not the guy you're arguing with, but starting up 8.1/10 from a regular HDD seems as fast as starting up 7 from an SSD. File transfers are much faster too; it's like they're handicapped in 7. Also context menus and new explorer windows come up much faster. I installed 8.1 on my legacy C2Q-Q6600 PC and it seriously runs so much better now than it did on win7

>>52500932
>2009 was 7 years ago
Give it two or three more years until Windows 7 starts to degrade a bit.

>have geforce 8400 gs
>have intel celeron 430
>have 3 GB RAM
W10 maybe cool but having your CPU at 99% and 2GB while just having chrome with 4chan is something I can't accept, so I'm back a W7.

>>52500972
Moore's Law has been dead for most of Win 7's life, it most certainly wasn't back in the 90s. There's much less separating 7 from 10 than separated 95 from XP.

>>52500986
Go to a GNU/Linux distro.

>>52501013
can't use a lot of my multimedia software on linux.

>>52501004
that might also be because 95 was a 9x-based version of Windows and XP was based on NT. Win 7 is NT v6.1 and Win 10 (would be) NT v6.4 . The difference between 9x and XP was more like the difference between XP/Win2000 and Vista

>>52498526

can someone explain how this is even going to work? so what happens if i try to install win7 when i have a system with a newer cpu? i honestly don't understand how they are going to enforce this.

>>52501035
Let the companies making that software know that there's demand for them on Linux and maybe they'll respond to that. Alternately look for alternatives that support Linux or use a virtual machine or a compatibility layer for the few Windows specific things that remain.

>>52498526
>Next-gen CPUs require Windows 10
Wrong. Next-gen CPUs work on Windows 10, Linux, and Macs at some point. Fucking idiots.

>>52501084
Literally nothing is changing. I wonder why Microsoft even bothered mentioning this.

Imagine if you tried to install windows 95 on a modern multicore CPU. First off windows 95 doesn't know how to handle most of the new instruction set extensions so those wont ever be used. Secondly windows 95 doesn't understand the concept of multiple cores so the additional cores wont be used either. Fancy things like speedstep/coolnquiet, turbo boost/core, SMT threads, etc wont be used. Everything else will run like usual but the performance of the system wont be optimal because the OS is holding everything back.

>>52499434
Cool story dumbass

>>52500797
this is good

>>52501110
there's no real benefit for me as to use linux though, and many stuff like flash (the editor) and Melodyne editor doesn't even have a working alternative on linux.

>>52501169
>there's no real benefit for me as to use linux though
You avoid all the end of support issues that are affecting Windows 7.

>many stuff like flash (the editor) and Melodyne editor doesn't even have a working alternative on linux.
We went through the same kinds of issues years ago with creative stuff that was only available for Amiga or Classic MacOS. Our tools for working around those kinds of legacy applications are a lot more mature today than they were.

Both of the programs you mention though are available for MacOS so perhaps that's your best option for the software you want to run and ongoing support?

How does someone get win10 enterprise? you can turn the telemetry off on it, or so ive read

>>52501309
You can click a button labeled that, but the question is, what does it actually do, if anything?

>>52501295
I had tried linux extensively anon, is not for me.

>>52501334
Then if you don't want to be forced to Windows 10 your options are OS X, or being like the guys that are still running an Amiga.

>>52500192
>I have nothing to hide.

Prove it faggot. Post social security and bank account numbers here or you're a lying criminal scum trying to hide his shit.

>>52501382
I'll be getting a new 1k PC soon anon.
Don't worry.

Windows 10 is the ultimate data mining machine with backdoor for the NSA. Why do you think its being pushed so hard, and for free?

>>52500646
>The irony being, they skipped an entire version number, including bumping the kernel version from the original 6.4 to 10.0. The moment sales and marketing takes over authority over kernel versioning, you should know that something is terribly wrong.

Thats not why, older programs for some god forsaken reason require a certain kernel version to work without causing all hell to break loose, they explained this when 7 first came out (or vista, but the point remains the same)

>>52500037
>lists a ton of things to do before wangblows is a usable OS
windows just works™ everyone
linux is hard

>>52498526
This actually makes perfect sense... It means silicon manufacturers can finally get away from old legacy x86 instruction set compatibility/emulation and make more truly RISC based chips ala ARM. The result will be much more efficient processing.

>>52501695
Pretty much, it makes perfect sense that Microsoft would start to drop support and put more efforts on Windows 10.

>>52500932
>pretty recent thing really. 2009 was not long ago.
Yes it was, 7 years is a pretty long time. Even more so considering 8 and 10 have added more features and made improvements on performance and memory management. If you hate the direction Microsoft is going then switch to linux already.

>>52500037
>hated 8
>liked 10

hmm...

if you install Classic Shell, Windows 8.1 feels exactly like Windows 7 does, just with a mildly different theme applied. Everything that works on 7 works on 8.1, and there are a huge amount of background performance enhancements added over Windows 7.

You know how they say every other version of windows is bad? XP good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad? Well 8.1 (NT 6.3) was the next version of Windows after 8 (NT 6.2). Not Windows 10.

test

>>52501822
>Yes it was, 7 years is a pretty long time
The 9 years between 1995 and 2004 seem more than twice as long, to say the least.

>8 and 10 have added more features and made improvements
Yea right, with bullshit Metro UI and botnet "telemetry" being at the forefront of these, I presume.

>If you hate the direction Microsoft is going
Who with even half a brain doesn't?

>>52499434
who can even go on the internet and type things like these into the reply box and press the submit button and not die of shame

>>52501530
Nah, you misunderstood that. They skipped the name "Windows 9" because some old software assumed Windows 9x if such a string was detected. The kernel version change on the other hand was completely arbitrary and artificial.

>>52501530
>older programs "require a certain kernel version"
>let's bump the kernel version up to a number those old programs would never ever assume because why the fuck not, that'll sure make them work better
Nice logic there pal.

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>>52502410
Yea. He even solved the captcha all the while intending to post exactly that. Deliberately, purposefully.

>>52500192
If you don't give a flying fuck about privacy, why disable security updates? It's like you're half-assing it and getting the shit end of both sticks.

>>52498526
Why does The Jew want us so to install W10 so badly?
Do they not already have a botnet in Windows 7 and 8?
What more are they hiding?

good thing I just got a thinkpad.

>>52500037
>>Get Classic Start Menu
why

>>52499434
>>52500037

>he uses any kind of windows
nigger it doesn't matter, the nt kernel has hardly changed over time, shit network stack, shit graphics stack, shit fpu stack, shit scheduling, etc. W7 at least was somewhat intuitive. With W10, it feels like you're fucking using PSN with a mouse, on top of that, they collect information to advertise back to you, forget about compatibility for a bunch of applications, and only minorly improved performance. The majority of headway M$ is working on right now is competing with Google, and a lot of that neglect shows in W10.
>15s boot time is impressive
Technically it's not even a reboot though, they load the image into RAM and spin up the drives again, it's more like suspending.

>>52500037
Open CMD and type:

 shutdown /s /t 0 

This will shut the machine completely down including the kernel. Start the machine and time the boot time. If 10 is anything like 8 it will take quite a bit longer than normal.

>>52502441
>They skipped the name "Windows 9" because some old software assumed Windows 9x if such a string was detected

That also applied to the kernel version numbering system as well.

>http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/11/why-windows-10-isnt-version-6-any-more-and-why-it-will-probably-work/

This also somewhat explains the issue im talking about

This is literally non-news. The same thing had the place throughout whole history of windows.

The fact that it's spammed every 10 minutes on /g/ means someone is getting paid to do this.

>>52500416
>but you have to accept that you're a relic
Everyone I know uses 7 or 8. You are a relic anon. either that or you're getting paid to spew this bullshit.

How about those fucks at microsoft write 1 good fucking os. take xp, 7, 8, 9, 10 and merge them into a single well written, non rushed, fully tested and optimized windows that we will never need to upgrade.

wait.

they cant make trillions of $$$'s doing that.

Its the biggest consumer scam in history. Selling something with a million holes in it, then while fixing the holes write a new version with even more holes to perpetuate the whole thing.

thoughts?

>>52498526
wow who fucking cares

boo hoo

fuck off to /v/ already, we don't need more bullshit

>>>/v/

"Supported lifetime of the device" suddenly makes sense.

>>52503409
It's not as simple as that. You can't just take and combine code randomly.

But it is true that they are intentionally gimping user experience with 8 and 10 (and that was not the case with all their previous operating system, including Vista and ME).

I'd take just windows 7 being worked on without any major changes.

Why the fuck would anyone need Windows 10 when all they do is shitpost on /g/ all day?

>>52503452
first windows came out in the 80's, here we are nearly 30 years later - 30 YEARS - still with the "coding is hard" argument. bullshit. google wrote android in how long?

>have new hardware
>don't want to use botnet10
>can't boot

time for a new os it seems

>>52503494
I did not say coding is hard.

I just said that your statement about combining different Windows version into one literally makes no sense - that's just not how development process works.

>google wrote android in how long
25 years?

>>52503497
>can't boot
Oh, but you see, you can. The article of course won't say that because it's just a big ad for win10.

>>52503494
>google wrote android in how long
What version is android on again? I dont think its 1.0 fucktard.

>>52503527
>I just said that your statement about combining different Windows version into one literally makes no sense - that's just not how development process works.

yet thats what they actually do. take previous versions and "develop" them into a bloated piece of crap.xp to 7 to 8 to 9 to 10.

>>52503538
yet its on more devices than M$ will ever be.

>>52503606
Incrementally building on top of one previous result and combining multiple loosely related previous results is nothing alike.

>>52503494
Android began in 2003 and the first Android phone was released in 2008. A little over 12 years after it stared Android is still shit, just like Windows is.

>>52503648
Who remembers when the first android prototypes looked like blackberrys

I was running pre 1.0 Android on my HTC touch diamond, my were those the days

AROS is the way to go ;)

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>>52503683

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Who here remembers first versions of android? Shit was awesome.

>>52499450
who needs DX when Vulcan is literally DX but better

>>52499450

>being this big of a manchild gaymer

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I gave up and stopped playing on my PC. Linux for work/browsing, consoles for gaming. I think this is the most sensible approach to this issue.

>>52503825
Probably everyone who wants to play videogames, because devs will mostly ignore Vulcan just like they ignored OpenGL.

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>>52503497
you can. It just means that some Intel (R) Technologies (C) such as Intel SpeedStep (TM) will not work unless you install Microsoft (R) Windows (TM) 10 (C).

>>52503409

>Its the biggest consumer scam in history. Selling something with a million holes in it, then while fixing the holes write a new version with even more holes to perpetuate the whole thing.

Because Linux is so much better on the desktop.

>>52503899
They are not selling it, are they? They are not trapping hardware vendors into shipping it.

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>only commercially supported unix based os
>not shit on desktops and laptops
>adobe suites
>only some games, but who gives a fuck

Time to get comfy with OS X /g/ents

So how exactly are they going to prevent new cpu's from running old versions of windows?
are they just not going to send you windows updates? cause that sounds like a Win-Win to me
anything farther than that would just be shooting themselves (the hardware manufacturers) in the foot

Its going to be pretty embarrassing when all the bombshell blog posts surface that the latest and greatest in computer hardware can't even run windows 98

>>52503945

How are hardware vendors trapped in to anything? You can order a new Dell with Ubuntu

>>52503870
Well it's not so much ignored as is 'Didn't get paid to use OpenGL'
When microsoft is handing out chunks of cash to use its windows-vendor-locking APIs there's no incentive to use the alternative.

>>52504000
Microsoft has a history of doing it. You can buy Dell with Ubuntu today, when Ubuntu is clearly is not a competitor for Windows. When alternative operating OSes could become a thing, Microsoft threatened vendors into only shipping Windows.

>>52504006
And that's exactly what I expect to happen. I hope it won't. But realistically, I can't imagine such a world when it does not happen.

>>52503864
to me Microsofts new business model for Windows is the most compelling argument for console gaming.

that and the fact that all games for a specific console are guaranteed to work on that console, exactly as as well as it did for the developers.

Eh this is just fanservice. When it comes out that people STILL aren't using windows 10, drivers will come out for windows 7.
Can you imagine intel being okay with cutting their potential market by 70%?

>>52504104

>70%

That's a very high estimate considering normies don't upgrade their computers. They just buy new computers and they don't care what OS is on them as long as its Windows.

>>52504144
I mean that win 10 has 30% market share so that'd be a cut of 70% for someone who can only sell products that work with win10

>>52500416
This devotion to shit posting is unreal.

Fucking tons of software and hardware we use on a daily basis is legacy!!!! You use it until it no longer suits your needs you fucking tard.