what is the cheapest and best way to get an internet connection

>>52490947
Ethernet cables

>>52490947
if it's a flat area then i guess wimax maybe

>>52490947
Dicks. Billions of them.

>>52490955
that would require 120 repeaters

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>The complete system allows for ultra high bandwidth connections between 2 buildings up to 8 miles or more apart with good line of sight.

satelites

12km CAT6 cable

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>>52491200
>the cost of a satelite [sic], launch vehicle and fuel is cheap

2sat dishes aimed at eachother

>>52491190

>forest in between
>"good line of sight"

>>52491237
Cut it down

>>52490947
ultra turbo super hyper wifi with those asus routers that have 20 antennas

use one of dem sat dish ntennas

hot air balloon

>>52490947
>>52490947
http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-Transceiver/

This will do, I did the same shit.
I live under a hill, and my studio is right across it ( 1km away) so I put a repeater on top of the hill and a reciever in the studio. It took me 3 days to calibrate it properly but it was worth it.

Towers to raise antennas' Fresnel zone way above the forest, cut and maintain forest
Lower towers and laser link, cut and maintain forest
Underground cable and repeaters, POE if you're a nigga or a jew or a jew nigga, yearly maintenance

>>52490947
traveling tele-dildonics salesperson problem, faget.

Put your internet in some Tupperware and carry it there. Call it T-warez and be l33t.

>>52490947
Meshnet

Write binary on pieces of paper and send a messenger on a horse like in the good old times

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>>52490947
Probably pic related

>>52491471
packet radio is too slow. There are faster radio technologies

>>52491471
AX25 won't allow OP to have encryption, so either Boris will have his bank credentials or he'll get v&

>>52491237
Put a fucking metal pole so high the trees can go fuck themselves

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>>52491531
>caring about tha gubmint

>>52491511
>There are faster radio technologies
enlighten me friend.

1200 baud packets seem slow, true.

>>52491553
He will probably draw heat from his local ham chapter and get his license revoked too

>>52491590
>from his local ham chapter and get his license revoked too
this is something i never actually understood about hamming.
why are those old farts such strokey cunts?

>>52490947
A pidgin with a SD card

>>52491663
IPoAC is standard

>>52491663
>>52491689
kek thats brilliant

>>52490947
Those internet over power things.

>>52491606
Let's say you're in a loud room. Everybody's talking, and you can understand everybody else. If somebody's being too loud, you can ask him to keep it down so you can talk too.
Now imagine some dickwad starts yelling gibberish and stops acknowledging "the old strokey cunt farts".

>>52491246
>trees are technology. Trees make oxygen.

>>52491190
>>52491237
can't you just buy a bunch of poles taller than the trees? or use the trees themselves, cut the branches and shape them into poles, you don't need many just 4-5 for maximum quality signal.

Infrared laser link

>>52490947
Realistically 2 internet connections from your local ISP.

>>52491663
Muh sneakernet

>>52491758
>12km
>power line ethernet
You retard.

>>52490955
Ethernet standard specifies max distance of about 200 m or so IIRC

>>52490947
One flash drive and a bike

Cup and string

>>52491190
Would the FCC even allow that?

10 TB disk + car

Even Google uses something like this to get terabytes of data from point A to point B very quickly

>>52493360
OP probably lives in Bumfuck, Alabama, so the federal government shouldn't be much of a hinderance

GSM/3G/4G tethering

Really long coax cable

Messing around with tripcodes I found this. Hooray.

>>52491190
>>satellite dishes can send information

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>>52491190
>up to 8 miles or more

>>up to 8 miles or more


>>up to 8 miles

>>>or more

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Fiber. Put an ont on both sides then run 12km of fiber between the 2.

>>52493473
go fuck yourself tripfag

>2.2 km tall trees
>3.7 km tall houses

A handful of wrt54gs.

>>52493360
Yes.

In fact, most ISPs have been including high bandwidth point to point radio links in their networks. It's cheaper than laying cable and you don't have to purchase right of way from your local municipality.

catapult launching USB flash drives

>>52493604
>fiber
it would cost roughly $7000, just material, no work included

>>52493662
Apartment buildings idiot

>/g/ - Techology
>2016
>communicate without your own satellite

>>52490947
fiber

>>52493811
>3.7 km tall buildings of any kind

>>52493895
whats the price per meter where you live?

>>52493929
3

>>52493947
so its 36000

>>52491343
any problems during rain/snow/etc ? also I'd imagine you're losing packets any time a bird flies by which seems like it could realistically happen across a 1km+ distance.

>>52493956
no, just 3

best way: fiber
I mean you can just order a 12km cable and dig it down yourself.
You probably have to get a permit though, so it will not be 100% unknown to the government.

>>52493964
make a little tunnel for the laser

>>52494001
how much cost 1m of fiber where you live?

>>52494020
3

Binary smoke signals

>>52494033
so its 36000

>>52494020
4M cables are like 25€ from a local retailer

They're supposed to be used for audio setups (I think), but they should work fine for any data

>>52494062
no, just 3

>>52492031
>muh sikrit club
Seriously. Those old strokey cunt farts are the reason no one is getting into hamming at all.
"HURR GET OFF THIS FREQUENCY YOU NOOB FUCK OFF YOU ARE NOT DOING THIS RIGHT DURR I NEED MY PILLS!"

>>52494063
12 000 / 4
3000 * 25
>75 000

>>52494088
My bet is you could get them a bunch cheaper if you bought them wholesale

>>52494007
explain?

>>52494124
Well, if the laser has a tunnel the weather wouldn't affect it

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>>52494124
like dis

You can go with wifi. If you can't elevate it above the trees, get lower-frequency equipment (i.e. use 2.4GHz instead of 5GHz).

>>52494001
>Dig up 12km yourself
That's a lot of work.

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>>52494143
>>52494164

digging a 3km underground tunnel through other peoples properties definitely won't help my case, nice ruse though, fell for it at first.

>>52494205
Do it at night

They don't have to know

>>52494106
No you couldn't the equipment it takes to solder the cables together and the time it would take you would far outweigh the advantages.
Officially you might want to hire a professional Installer.
In my country we have the itur program which forces people(ISP's, companies anyone who wants to pass fiber [This is the only cable to be allowed to pass underground]) to install cable between residences on a very specific way so you still have to hire a specialist with a itur cert.

Atleast this way ISP's can't go the americuck way of installing cable.

>>52494214
>No you couldn't the equipment it takes to solder the cables together and the time it would take you would far outweigh the advantages.
just use transparent glue

They're just glass fibers

>>52494205
You never said someone else's property is between the two homes.

>>52494187
>12 KM of wifi
Theoretically you'd still have to lay down cabble and repeaters every 50 metters tops.
So you'd still have to lay tons of cable, be exposed to the elements and get sidefucked by the electricity bill.

Best way is the Fiber way.

>>52494205
>jewish_piano.webm
9/11 filename

>>52494241
Wanna see what happens when you bend or don't solder fiber cables well enough?
better yet.
Shit works via refraction and reflection.
Watch this shit you retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MwMkBET_5I

>>52494290
that's why you do it well enough

>>52494310
>You do it well enough

You where just suggesting glue! TRANSPARENT GLUE!
Shit won't refract and allow fucking light to escape you retard.

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>>52494266
>every 50 metters tops

>>52494328
what if you use the good brand of glue

I would take a look at ubiqity systems

>>52494366
kek

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>>52494334
>5 Ghz

Good luck not getting fucked by FCC goons without a license nigger.

>>52494334
this

>>52494214
Fibre is incredibly expensive and difficult to terminate. It's not something you could do for a DIY project.

>>52494403
>difficult to terminate
Just put a lightbulb at the other end

problem solved

Bonus: free lighting

>>52494394
Is america really that cucked? Can't they freely use 5GHz devices?

>>52494403
Depends, the equipment to fuse and test fiber is 5000$ alone, in my country there are rental projects and special licenses that are required to properly install fiber and if you don't have them you have to atleast have 1 certified nigger to assist you.

However I did as a DIY project in university pass 1.5 KM of fiber through a unused comunications duct from the university to my house (mfw I still leech internet off them) it wasn't that hard at all the problem was getting the equipment to handle the signal conversion (at the time the passive choices for optical to digital where low so I went with a prefab fiber router since then I replaced it with a passive converter and plugged it into my PFsence box).

Sufficed is to say they thottled my connection back down to 100 mb's but shits dandy for a comunications and network project.

>>52494394
Land of the Free™

>>52494472
>>52494487
It's not just in america it's all around the world.

>>52494503
>muh at least we aren't north korea

Put signal boosters in between the two properties at various points (as needed). Then have a way to transmit at point A, with a receiver at point B.

Just put the signal boosters at the top of the trees.

Then it would be completely wireless. Less likely to be noticed. Hell you can even camouflage the transmitters in the trees.

Not sure on cost of something like this, but I have seen it done to get a signal several miles across a city.

Worth considering and looking into, no?

>>52494472
No he's baiting, you don't need a license for 5GHz nor 5.8.

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>>52494081

>>52490947
Coaxial

>>52490947
3G.
Maybe LTE but don't know the expenses.

Solar powered Zigbee mesh network which are configured as wifi repeaters.

>>52493370
Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

>>52494681
>station wagon
americans don't quite know what those are anymore I'm afraid

Try 'murica's finest. The pickup truck

>>52490947
OM3 Fibre line switch to switch.

>>52494637
This...coupled with this....>>52494554 would be a pretty good way to do it.

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>>52493326
>pedaling 12k every time you need to send something to the other house
you could as well just train to become the next top idol senpai.

>>52494602
>>52494394

you dont need for 5.8 ghz
you will need for 5 depending on your country
lrn2ism faggot

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Do I win?

>>52494760
>not getting your legs swole as fuck due to all the biking
fucking pleb

>>52494020
7

>>52490947
Assuming you have public Internet through a consumer ISP such as AT&T or whomever, you can do a VPN connection. A Site-to-Site VPN Connection would allow you to act as one network within the same subnet.

>>52494767
5GHz is unlicensed in the US.

>>52490947
y do u need all the trees though op

>>52494828
>Ctrl + F
>VPN
>1 Result
Wtf? Does anyone know what they are talking about or is everyone shitposting?

>>52494866
idk about the rest, I'm here to shitpost

>>52494866
Is anyone here serious? I give bad advice all the time, hoping someone will follow it and screw up big time.

>>52494778
but that's not kawaii.

>>52494920
do you even lift?

The cheapest and best option would be to just get satellite internet (like Tooway) at one or both sites.
Or perhaps Wifi with very high gain antennas mounted on the highest trees you can find.

>>52494866

I don't think thats what the question is about.

The VPN is the least expensive and least complicated option, yes.

But if you want REAL bandwidth you simply need to:

1. Get the same ISP in bout houses.
2. Negotiate the deal with the ISP for a dedicated connection between the houses.

The price might or might not be ridiculous depending on ISP.

>>52494866
>>52494828
Nigga said between 2 points on a 12 click space.
Nigga didn say nothn bout outsourcing.

>>52494866
The OP didn't ask for that.
He specifically asked how to get an internet connection from point A to B, not how to route them together on layer 2 or 3.

>>52494934
Isn't that just software emulation and you get no actual benefits besides a big ass bill every month?

>>52490947
Why don't you burn the wanted information onto a CD and then run across to deliver it?

>>52494503
All around the world? That must explain why I am able to operate a 5GHz wifi network without anyone giving a shit in Germany.

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/thread

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

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>>52494928
no but I learned to stand still on one leg.

>>52495023
>>>/a/

>>52494965

Well, depends on what you negotiate.

I've done this multiple times for companies. You have to negotiate for a "dark fibre". It's a connection that the ISP lay down in advance but is unused yet. They pretty much always have some(unless we are talking about the middle of a city).

They can dedicate to you a part of that dark fibre so you get some serious speed.

But that entirely depends if they do have spare fibres.

>>52495013
wouldn't moon dust be expensive as fuck tho?

>>52495016

I think in this case a dog would make more sense.

Pidgeon carriers are notoriously hard and expensive to train.

>>52495016
>If 16 homing pigeons are given eight 512 GB SD cards each, and take an hour to reach their destination, the throughput of the transfer would be 156.4 Gbit/s, excluding transfer to and from the SD cards

This is a possible solution OP.

>>52495009
On your home network.
Try doing that over the street and wait for a cop car actively receiving or transmitting and see what happens.

>>52490947
2x walmart netgear switch
1x hillbilly
1x spool of cat6 12km
1x 1996 Ford Pickup
5x packs of beer (compensation for hillbilly services)

>>52495051
Or you could get a car, put a million 512 GB SD cards there

Assuming you'll be traveling at ~50 kmph average you'll get there in about 14 minutes which is 840 seconds

Which gives us 609523.81 GB/s

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>>52490947
Idk man i'd use rj-11

>>52495097
that's not how cables work, anon-kun

>captcha is pickup trucks

>>52495097
cat6 won't work over that distance

>>52495097
>the maximum allowed length of a Cat 6 cable is 100 meters

Ain't that some shit

>>52495057
>my home network stops at my walls
Nigga, you stupid as fuck.

>>52495032

This makes the most sense.

Though if you are not a company and just a private person they might just tell you to get lost unless you are ready to pay serious cash.

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>mfw most people in this thread can't into basic networkings.

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>>52495120
maybe use half rj-11 and half fiber optic

>>52495148
Are you mentally ill?
Try extending the range more then 2 metters after your property I dare you.

>>52495189
>the WiFi range stops exactly 1.99 meters from walls of my apartment
hm

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>>52495122
>>52495132
>>52495134
we just gun need more switches den :DDD
throw a goodwill bought WRT54G on the ground ebery few hundred feet

>>52495230
what about power

12km worth of extension cords?

>>52495189
I have antennas placed around my house to do exactly that because my property is so fucking huge I need something to boost the wifi.
There is no cop comming by to check on my wifi.
There is no gubmint telling me to stop harassing the other people with my 5GHz shlong.
No. One. Cares.

>>52495236
solar panels

>>52495230
>Having to lay a 12 klick power line

Good ideia you just trippled the cost.

>>52495236
Solar panels, wind turbines and big batteries. A simple repeater wouldn't use much energy.

>>52495249
what about bad weather

>>52491237
That's some short ass trees.

You will run into problems when they grow though.

>>52495264
OP said through a forest

Depending on the thickness of the canopy solar panels wouldn't work well

Wind turbines even worse, because it's a fucking forest

>>52495269
batteries attached to solar panels, charge up during good weather.

I'm tempted to put all of this in OP's pic now

>>52493752
This
I want to build this

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>>52495236
chink solar panels for every switch
id a gbeen solodiun :D

>>52495289
there's likely to be clearings in places. Failing that, you can mount the kit up a tree.

>>52495230
>WRT54G
I don't think those are weather proof

>>52494205
What happens when you divide by zero on that?

>>52495383
admittedly there's seems to be a few flaws to this plan.

>>52495383
Nothing a sealed plastic container couldn't fix

Well, while carrier pidgeons do not sound practical you could use drones with preprogramed flight path.

>>52495425
And get them shot down by a random hick

>>52495425
>carrier pidgeons do not sound practical
it's the most practical suggestion so far.

>>52495383
used ziplock bags salvaged from dumpsters for every unit

>>52495433

I'm sure they have good enough aim to shoot down things flying at 800m.

>>52495436

See >>52495032

>>52495395
something like this I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=443B6f_4n6k

>>52495425
if you get enough carrier pidgeons each one could represent a packet going through the network
Pidgeons also have a head and a body like packets. You could emulate all of TCP/IP with them

>>52490947

Just use analogical TV frequency to send the signal.

>>52495492
Already done
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

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>>52495492

>Pidgeons also have a head and a body like packets.

Okay, I laughed. You are cute senpai.

>>52495561
Damn, here I thought I was the next innovashiuneer

Fill a truck up with HDDs and drive it over to point B.

>>52490947
pigeons

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only real answer

>>52493370
If your data is bulk, this
Big companies (Google and stuff included) just stuff a car or a plane full of disks if they want to move a lot of data quickly

>>52490947
you can get the trees to talk to each other with magic sending any data you might need over them

>>52493737
Isn't the tech more prone to latency and packet loss than cable?

>>52494777
>H-house B, y-you're too close. P-please

>>52495030
this is literally /a/ + /v/: buying recommendations

>>52495955
>12km line

>>52495996
24 actually

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>>52495955

most likely just buy a seocnd DSL subscription or a LTE / HSDPA mobile internet subscription

go down to the home depot and hire a buncha mexicans to surf the internet for you

>>52490947
Use one of those tubes like banks and hospitals have to transport paperwork for flash drives

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>>52496181
>$50/mo is the cheapest solution

>>52496422
pneumatic tubes?

>>52490947

Get some kind of satellite based service for the one without Internet connection and then connect the two with a VPN

>>52490947
you can try throwing your computer 12km to point B
All you need is a good wind up

>>52490947
P2P 11ghz bridge, you'll need FCC license to use it (assuming US based), easy to get, just call any local company that does these type of radio installations and they'll do the paperwork for you.

>>52496498
Yeah

No one ever heard of RFC-1149? That's your best bet OP.

>>52492126
You'll need a bretty strong laser to get through those trees pham

>>52490947
Quantum entanglement

>>52498055
Doesn't allow the transfer of information without knowing the state of the transmitting particle, OP would still need to know the state of original particle via other means.

Use WiFi grandpa, I've been using it since I got my iPhone 6S Plus 64Gb. I will be using it to game on my MacBook Air too, when my mom's husband buys me one.

Make Mexico pay for it

>>52498983
He want WiFi, not WallFi

>>52490947
Use pigeons.

>>52499005
hehe yeah cuz of what trump said xD

>>52491343

Would probably be shitty if work at all in fog and rain

2 speakers loud enough to be heard over 12km
2 microphones
dial-up network

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>>52490976
>>52491221
>>52491246
>>52491256
>>52491335
>>52491453
>>52491540
>>52491663
>>52491758
>>52492089
>>52492126
>>52493326
>>52493337
>>52493370
>>52493671
>>52493752
>>52494045
>>52494007
>>52494164
>>52494187
>>52494205
>>52494213
Never change /g/.

>>52494087
The precise idea is not to be secret at all you nigga
Also underage b& REQ

>>52495894
Yes, but it's cheaper and the peasants will continue to pay for it.

>>52493360
Fuck the fcc, i keep my oc'd unregulated cb broadcasting erryday. The headaches are annoying though.

Tachyons

Bluetooth

Old as fuck means cheap.

>>52502780
Old as fuck also means slow as fuck.

>>52502780
Bluetooth has a max range of like 30ft

Then get a lot of Bluetooth repeaters

Laser is probably cheapest suggestion in thread

Pfft all of you are over thinking it.

OP you have shoes right?

Use that 12 km as a nice relaxing walk.

>>52491566
802.11 is faster. and there are even faster, multiplexed radio communications.

>>52490947
Use a modem on each end and the telephone network.

>>52492089
ur a fag

>>52495395
I heard that it keeps going and going, however it's should depend on the exact implementation. Even though it's mechanical it's still only logic, it's possible to handle it gracefully.

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>>52490947
I have four of pic related, Ubiquiti M5s. IIRC they offer range up to 20kms, haven't tested more than few kilometers, though.

Easy to setup, cheap, works well even in -30 celcius. POE so you only need cat cable to the dish.

NLOS WiMAX is the solution here.

>>52495051
The jitter, latency and so on would be shit.

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fyi

Pony Express with robot jockeys
Now the question is whether maintenance of a Horse is cheaper than the ISP subscription

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>>52506417
>thinks temperature affects radio waves

>>52508790
it affects radio wave propagation, yes.

Even a retard knows this, don't tell me you are less than a retard?

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>>52508903

>>52508903
It also affects electronics. That dude's a fucking retard for sure.

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>>52508903
over such a short distance

talkin out your arse

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>>52508947
cat cable gets affected by temperture

>mfw

>>52508958
And what about the transmitter electronics?

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>>52508972
cold temperatures boost electronics by reducing electrical resistance caused by heat

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>>52508991