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There are four ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
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is there anyway to prevent per application keybindigs? i want to migrate to linux but i got used to windows keybindings too much. moving to linux without them sure reduce my productivity. i have accomplished somehow but keybindings always get overwritten by current active program. example i use super + d to bring desktop. somehow it works when i am on desktop but it doesnt work when i use it while running another application.
Why the fuck does plasma DE reset my windows every time I hibernate? Even just sleeping on RAM or logging off fucks everything up.
This is incredibly annoying and pretty much negates all the power of the DE functionality in the first place (who wants to set up several virtual desktops and activities every single login?).
Or do people who use this just never turn off their computers?
Rant, rant, rant...
Timestams on youtube look like whales spitting water. what to do? i using firefox. also no audio. alsa and pulse audio are installed
I want to keep secure boot enabled, it seems that all of the major distros ('buntu, mint, etc) support it, is there anything else I should worry about?
Is there a way to get normal (windows-like) audio on linux with minimal effort? I have a laptop with built-in speakers, and the sound just is so much worse with linux...
Here's a cool thing you can do on Linux: Set up a proxy chain:
Polipo <- YaCy <- Privoxy <- Web browser
Polipo is a caching proxy, so it can speed up connections to slow websites. It also does pipelining and multiplexing to speed up connections further. Finally, you can set it to offline mode and browse websites without an Internet connection.
YaCy can be used as a local search engine that indexes any page you access through its proxy. Imagine you have a local Google search engine that works on your browsing history. Want to find that one page about penguins from a long time ago? Just look it up in YaCy.
Privoxy does anonymization and ad-blocking. It's extremely flexible (replacing multiple browser plugins), and you can reuse it between different browsers.
its a very tough problem i cant install anything with a desktop environment, only managed to install the debian core and from that i could install kde but i need the unuty shit to make a program work
I use gmail as my main and forward that to my other clients including my institutional email etc. It integrates well with my Android and backs up all my business contacts to their cloud.
I don't care if I'm botnetted. It's a quality service. I use googlenow too. Google knows all my work, home, lab and gym addresses. Amazon purchases etc. I also keep some personal and academic files on Dropbox and GoogleDrive. It makes them money and I get a nice service. Google generally does cool shit so if they sell my data I'm ok with that. A background check on me will reveal that what textbooks I buy and store cat picture-tier personal files on their could.
This is all of course on seperate platforms to my main PC which runs Arch Linux with encrypted home drives. I tell all my clients not to post sensitive IP on any public service, though they probably don't use platforms gapped from the botnet anyway so it can't really be helped. You will never have all your shit secure because there's always some idiot secretary who downloads some shitty social media client behind the companies firewall.
In Output devices, make sure that whatever output you want sound to come out of is the fallback. Then, at Playback, change what device the sound of each application is coming out of.
Don't do that, Unity doesn't work with Debian, it will just break your installation.
To get it working will require major changes across packages and I just don't see it happening any time soon or never.
So if you need to use it, just install Ubuntu.
If could even run it in a virtual machine if you need it just for a specific task.
unless there is a core install of ubuntu like debian there is no way since no systems with graphic environments works on that shit laptop if its clean installed
windows works fine but asus fucks linux up
Ubuntu has minimal installs.
The only way to get Unity to run on Debian is to compile and configure it yourself, it just doesn't work with vanilla Debian and needs patching.
Not only does Unity require tweaks, a lot of other packages do too because Unity depends on certain features not found on vanilla versions.
Last activity on porting Unity was in 2014
So it's a deadhorse at this point, since the requirements have just got worse since then.
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So what would you actually suggest people use instead?
We shouldn't be driving around in cars powered by huge tanks filled with extremely fucking combustible liquids either.
But until batteries can hold the same capacity as a full tank, and until "quick" charging is actually fast, that's what people are going to use.
When I enabled the tray protection on Tray 2 (letterhead) it has prevented our Linux based ERP system from printing to that tray. Whenever it tries to send a job to Tray 2, it reverts to Tray 1 (non-letterhead paper).
I’ve removed the Tray protection for now as it is vital that the ERP system be able to print to letterhead.
If you have any solutions, I’d be happy to try them!
>any OS retarded users manage to fuck
>implying Linux isn't 1000X worse for "retarded" users.
>or that spies on them
>telemetry means that M$ sends everything to the NSA!!!!!!!!!!!
you can make GNU/Linux pretty retard proof compared to windows, just don't give them permissions.
mint is way more retard proof than windows. not sure about how retard proof mac os is nowadays.
firefox on linux got suddenly slow scrolling
I used another smooth scrolling extension to fix it previously
but now its fucked again
>tfw seed regularly (ratio revolving between 2.5 and 3.0, currently at 2.7)
>tfw don't want to go through the bullshit of private torrent tracker
>piratebay doesn't have any halfway decent rip of the movie i'm looking for
>rarbg as well
>katcr is kill since 2 days
how do i remove those gray things looks like separators from mate-panel? look at bottom right corner its ugly
Hey friendos, I'm running debian stretch and my microphone doesn't work, it works fine on windows however. When i try to run mumble, i get many settings under the ALSA tab, but none work. Anyone had the same problem?
BTW; there is nothing wrong with Zorin. Some self-appointed authority called it a "tiny weird project" and threw FUD in the air in the previous bread when a noob asked if it's worth considering. The guy obviously knows nothing about the system and was talking out of his ass and basically admitted it when he said he had never even heard of it. Jesus come quickly and collect these retards in a big sack.
use the audio mixer and see if you can get it to work with it. in order to install firmware-linux-nonfree you need to enable non-free packages but i don't think that should be necessary for mics.
I wanna run linux in a vm on my macbook pro w/ retina. Whenever i've tried so far, there seems to be no way to get the resolustion to match that of my screen. Was wondering if anyone has any experience with stuff like this
what about the configuration tab?
Anyone have issues burning discs in Linux?
I have an LG BDR burner, and I've tried several different burning programs.
CDRs burn fine every time
DVD-Rs will initialize the burn, but the drive will just spin the disc forever without actually doing any burning
BDRs won't even start burning
Is this a drive compatibility issue? I've tried several different distros. Burning in Windows works fine, so it's not a hardware failure.
I'm trying to implement my way of installed package tracking, so I have a file that contains the libraries that I want to have at minimum. I'm using this file to exclude the patterns in this file from installed package list using
yum list installed | grep -vf package_list
But this gets extremely slow when the package list grows. What alternatives do I have? I just want to see the list of packages that I installed over what I consider to be minimal.
can anybody help with my firefox theme, the tabs are broken for any theme i chose
The reason I stopped recommending Linux to "normal users" is _because_ of the concept of distributions.
Coupling the updates of single apps with the updates of the whole desktop or framework and libs, is just plain wrong. Having to upgrade the whole distro (including all the other installed apps you dont want to upgrade) just to install a new version of one single app you _want_ to update is a nightmare. Total bullshit. Users. Dont. Want. That. Users dont want one update to trigger another update, or even to trigger the upgrade of the whole desktop.
The blog post by ESR is one prominent example: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3822
He basically wanted to upgrade just one (obscure) app, and the process triggered the automatic removal of Gnome2 and installation of Unity. Just _IMAGINE_ how nightmarish this must look for normal users. You simply dont remove somebodys installed desktop sneakily from under their feet. You simply dont. That feels like the total loss of control over your computer.
I personally had, during the last 10 years, people go from Linux (which I talked them into trying) back to windows, _precisely_ of this reason, of having to upgrade the whole distribution every few months just to be able to get new app versions. They dont have to put up with this insane bullshit on Windows, why should they put up with it on Linux?
This "distribution" bullshit is not what is killing desktop Linux, it is what _already_ killed desktop Linux.
The other reasons why desktop Linux never made it (no games, no preinstallations on hardware) are imho just consequences of the distribution concept and the 6-month planned-obsolescence cycle. Nobody wants to bother with something which will be obsolete half a year down the road. Nobody wants to develop for a target that moves _that_ fast.
If anybody _ever_ really wants to see Linux succeed on the desktop (before the desktop concept itself is gone), he will have to give up on the distribution concept first.
I tried to burn discs first I had zero luck, tried multiple software including a proprietary one and formatable discs.
I ended up using a simple program that makes the iso into a bootable USB live media. Honestly ,if you have a space stick you will save yourself a lot of pain.
There are other distros that are designed to feel Windows-like. The Makulu developer has put a lot of effort into that with his releases and has some good Windows theming (many versions) for those who like that type of thing. Makulu Aero looks pretty good, but Makulu is not a professional distro like Zorin. If I installed Makulu on a normie's system, I'd have to make changes to the pre-installed software.
How thorough are package managers when removing packages? I'm inexperienced and I don't want to go into system directories to remove stuff left from packages I already removed. I'm aware that configs in home directory is usually left but what else is usually left?
This looks great but why the fuck would I get this happen TWICE on drives that are fine, aka passing SMART, while compiling openwrt?
But not only does it pass SMART, there's no indication of any errors at all.
I have had no other problems with the drives, I even rebuilt the RAIDs with no issue after the first time.
have you read what your screens says?
are you just staring at it waiting for an answer?
if your drive hasn't failed. then there must be another reason that linux says the drives failed.
Have you rearranged drives in bios? physically rearrange drives? is your fstab just fucked up? Does openwrt support raid
well to be exact they kinda stopped when linux became a thing, they started working on it again only a few years back and it's improving rapidly at the moment. guixsd will have a hurd version aswell as a linux version.
Giving a whole pile of complaints in an image file is an easy way to run away from arguments,
Try posting one reason at a time and I can talk. Also nitpicking an OS is very easy. That article is not recommending or comparing any OS. I can sit down and write one of those myself if I have the time.
How can I find out if fstrim is working, I do it and it doesn't print anything just returns me to command line, I've tried using the samsung magician software from AUR but that doesn't detect my SSD
Start by explaining why freetards feel the need to push out unfinished, unpolished shit. Examples are GNOME 3, it was absolutely unusable for months and months after release. Same with KDE 5, which still isn't fully stable. Why not wait with the release till it's somewhat polished? Those constant rapid changes are one of the main reasons why Linux was never adopted on the desktop.
That means it's working.
Openbox (and most standalone WMs) doesn't come with anything except the WM itself. That means no panels, usually no wallpaper, no desktop icons, etc.
As a pro-tip, be sure to read the documentation of any standalone WM you plan on using BEFORE you launch into it. With most tiling WMs, for example, there's no obvious way to launch applications if you don't already know the keyboard combinations.
So I want to switch, but what distro should I choose? What is the BEST linux? Please help.
>Gives link to an argumentatively insane write-up
>Expects people to take him seriously.
He has good evidence, but his argument is moot, as he doesn't say what a Desktop OS is. That write-up is the equivalent of me saying water is unhealthy, as drinking too much of it can have negative effects on your health. Although the evidence is true, it doesn't prove anything, as I never defined what "unhealthy" is. That's the problem with bashing. It doesn't help to drive your point. To do this properly would be to state what a Desktop OS is (This is providing an ideal alternative to compare to) or say that something is better (This is providing a real alternative to compare to). You cannot say negatives without saying why these negatives are negative.
>Why not wait with the release till it's somewhat polished?
Use the stable version, sorry. Freetards do not have billions of dollars to invest and employ thousands of prajeets to test softwares. It is a community driven project. GNOME and KDE listens to their users MORE than Microsoft does.
Microsoft brought the abomination of metro start panel and still is stubborn enough for not getting rid of it. Meanwhile people are downloading classic shell just so they can use the OS they bought
How to reproduce this on Linux? Or is it a windows only feature?
Whelp, when I built without building the SDK it finished compiling without panicing, the image was good and now my Buffalo WMR-300 has openwrt flashed on it.
Now rebuilding my array.
on harsh workloads i only managed to make the entire X root window white by moving a window around.
but that's a craptop with ati gpu running opensource radeon driver.
don't know if you will be able to replicate it on another machine
>GNOME and KDE listens to their users MORE than Microsoft
>saying this after the GNOME 3 fallout...
>Microsoft brought the abomination of metro start panel and still is stubborn enough for not getting rid of it.
They at least learned from their mistakes and brought back the start menu in Windows 10. GNOME still looks and works like from the beginning and people who complained only got told to fuck off and use another DE.
So much for "listens to their users".
>I dont like the presented changes.
>im going to complain
>they said no
>i guess ill use the version i am already on that has no issues, and wait for backports
No one FORCED people to upgrade
Questions: If GNOME is so shit, why the most distros ship it by default? Also why doesnt GNOME listen to it's users >filepicker as example. What philosophy is it to remove features in programs and add more bloat for eye candy?
Why dont we just all boycott these faggots?
>brought back the start menu in Windows 10
You mean the hybrid cross of classic shell and metro apps? That's still bad
They can't change GNOME 3 into GNOME 2, (there's MATE just for that?) well have to wait till they come up with a newer family.
Like we waited for windows 10 after the disaster happened in 8. As it appears MS is not willing to let the appz go.
I have a totaly noob question/s. please dont kill me.
i have linux (manjaro) installed on an older PC (1GB ram).
i was wondering if i could take out the linux drive from the old machine and put it on a new one as an secondary boot. will it boot? will it detect all components properly?
any additional intel will help.
>Also why doesnt GNOME listen to it's users >filepicker as example.
It was never implemented because in reality noone but imageboard users need such feature.
Just think, who else other than channers have a 1GB+ of random, unsorted pictures with cryptic names?
Because you can choose not to use GNOME and install something else if you do not like the feature set they are going for.
Or simply use the older version of GNOME that is being backported. Or various other forks that support different changes.
No one is forcing you to use gnome.
It is true they should let the filepicker have a preview option.
With that said, you can easily install the KDE picker and integrate with your browser. This is the freedom GNU/Linux gives you
GNOME has "GNU" buried in its retarded acronym so they ship it. Gtk has ALWAYS been lgpl so they ship it. You don't want to hate freedom, do you?
>What philosophy is it to remove features in programs and add more bloat for eye candy?
You think they do this, but only because you haven't used a mac. Their philosophy is actually to copy whatever OS X is doing regardless of aesthetics or functionality.
If you are new, stick to systemd.
OpenRC is actually one of the better features of manjaro.
Ethically it is, we do not want monolithic systemd to take over
kdebase-dialog is not 1G my nigger, you do not need the whole DE
ive been using it with OpenRC (i does somewhat feel direct and forward, more clean anyway what do i know) but... i had problems updating it to newer version. maybe i was doing something wrong, maybe it requires special process to put on the new version i really dont know. will make further tests on why and how.
How can I change the default file picker for Cinnamon/GTK/Whatever?
If it can't be changed can I at least modify its behavior?
>moving the file picker window also moves the browser window
>typing to filter hides whatever doesn't match instead of moving the pointer to the first occurence (this... i cant even...)
>If you are new, stick to systemd.
rc is WAY eaiser to maintan.Systemd breaks every update or fucks your login, and is horrible to diag
Oh where is the config i need to change,of there is 4 possible locations and 15 different processes to look for.
Fuck that shit
Thats beside the purpose. Im not installing 39 deps for ONE FUCKING PROGRAM THAT JUST PICKS A PICTURE.
My install is 7 years old and only takes up 11gb of the root partition.
There is no fucking reason for that. Why does it need its own icon pack? upower? docbook? docbook-xsl? libkactivites? libatasmart? libmobiledevice?o libusbmuxd? polkit-qt?
I dont need an entire new setup just for ONE fucking app
I'm just leaving this here, enjoy.
any linux system that inst shit tier supports graphical file pickers. your statement may have been true 7 years ago
EVERY Single thread there will be atleast ONE winnigger posting his dank memes
Glad I could help
it's gtk2 picker
both xfce and mate which use gtk2 happen to use tumbler as well
>>52495969Optional dependencies for steam
lib32-mesa-dri: for open source driver users
lib32-catalyst-utils: for AMD Catalyst users
lib32-nvidia-utils: for NVIDIA proprietary blob users
lib32-alsa-plugins: for pulseaudio on some games
Topkek. But seriously though I should probably just get NVIDIA drivers right?
of you use nvidia the only real option is the closed drivers, noveau is shit.
here's your reply
just leave them both installed and set nemo as your default, and shit that requires thunar will still be able to use it, it's either that or read up on everything on your system and see what things rely on a fm and if they can be pointed at nemo instead of thunar
i gues its time to tone down before i get b&. whatevs
I have a very huge ~/.bashrc file, can I use or source these with zsh? I would switch, but not if I need to rewrite everything just because zsh's independent scripting lang. I dropped fish for the same reason.
I fucking did faggot
zsh is NOT fucking bash
Why would you think you could just up and copy all your BASH scripts and fucking past them in your .zshrc. You need to make mother fucking zsh functions.You nigger ass could have just fucking RTFM and found out your self
I quoted your nigger response as a message for you to read your own fucking words and learn from them.
Further more, telling someone to not quote you is and foremost, not constructive to the thread, or you getting help beyond you already getting your answer 2 minutes after you posted.
>KDE 5, which still isn't fully stable.
Provide one example of Plasma 5's instability.
So far, when I used it:
>I could set the paper with Dolphin
>It truly was lighter than KDE 4.4
>Vsync worked using full screen repaints
>Keyboard shortcuts worked
>A wacom kcm was developed
Everything just worked except for the occasional kwin_x11 crash
Hey /g/uys, I just installed Antergos on my laptop and I can't connecto to my wifi. I can see the network, but when I click on it I don't get any prompt to enter the password. Anyone have any ideas?
If not then i recommend opening a terminal and executingsudo wifi-menu
If you have one card then it should select that one, you'll see a list of networks and you can choose which one to connect to.
I'm using Pale Moon (on Xubuntu) and I want to be able to play the most up to date Flash and HTML5 stuff, which Pale Moon doesn't normally support. So I downloaded Scriptish, Viewtube, and Mozplugger. Viewtube says it can replace Flash with the HTML5 player or a separate plugin, such as Mplayer run through Mozplugger. Everything seems to be installed and up to date, but running videos on Youtube I still see the Flash Player. What did I do wrong?
What's the minimum size my Mint partition has to be to be viable?
I just did that and it didn't change anything. Do I need to configure the Viewtube script to work with Pale Moon somehow?
The idea is to use Viewtube and Mozplugger to embed mplayer into the browser instead of using Flash or HTML5, which are poorly supported by Pale Moon.
Pls help I just formatted this disk as ext but ubuntu tries to mount it as NTFS
forcing with '-t ext4' doesn't work either
I fucked up in that screenshot this one is what I want
>The idea is to use Viewtube and Mozplugger to embed mplayer into the browser instead of using Flash or HTML5, which are poorly supported by Pale Moon.
I'm honestly not sure about using mplayer.
I'm trying to dual boot windows 10 and xubuntu but currently my USB has a history of hating dual booting and that shit. It ends up failing to boot off it with different programs. Does anyone know how to stop this? Or should I get a new USB to try dual booting with? (not sure if this goes in SQT or this thread btw)
Is your default file manager nautilus? Because that now defaults to searching recursively when you type, rather than jumping to the first match.
You might be able to disable it depending on your distro, but Debian stable definitely cannot. Try switching to nemo as default instead.
So I just installed fedora 23 with kde. It's my first linux install and everything is perfect, except that it wont detect my bheringer uac202 usb sound card. Google search suggest I use system config souncard, but the terminal says that the command doesnt exist. I also used alsamixer and switched it to usb audio codec with f6 and still nothing happens. Any idea of what to do?
I have windows 7 installed a disk, after installing debian 8 on a separate disk, I can no longer boot Windows 7, the system greets me with a 'startup repair' error message (which doesn't actually load).
If I disconnect the Debian 8 disk, I can boot windows without a hitch, but I cannot boot both systems while the disks are connected simultaneously.
I took the precautions to write the MBR on both disks separately while installing each system, and they do both separately, but I don't know what could be causing this issue, I assume it's some gay windows issue because GNU/Linux boots normally even with the 2 disks connected simultaneously.
Yes, I've also tried overriding the boot order by selecting the disks manually, Windows doesn't work when both disks are connected, Debian boots just fine even if both disks are connected, it's a pain in the ass to disconnect the Debian disk each time I want to boot into wangblows.
Anyone else here /linuxgames/?
Been playing FreedroidRPG for years. Love it.
A game I used to play when I was a kid, Slune, has been abandoned. I downloaded the source code and once I know how to code I'm gonna bring it back.
Sounds like windows is scanning for hardware, found the harddrive then tried to mount it.
It's doing this at startup because it's perfectly reasonable to have the DATA partition containing your profiles on a separate disk to windows itself.
It's finding the ext4 or whatever format your linux drive is using, and shitting the bed thinking it must be a corrupted drive.
I have no idea how to fix that though, maybe BIOS settings?
Why isn't online compile libraries a thing? I've been messing around to compile a simple program that didn't have a configure. I read the readme file and I downloaded the requirements and their +30 dependencies, and still had problems. I could've avoided them if there was a great sea of libraries online that I could use to compile things. Is this so, because you may not be able to run the program? But then why isn't there a universal method for installing packages that a program depends on during compilation?
Are these too much to ask? I just recently migrated to linux and I'm having problems with huge number of packages.
Anyone use Kubuntu 15.04 here?
I keep experiecing le retarded bug with Plasma 5(presumably),
1) Shutdown/sleep/restart buttons do not work, can only restart/turn off pc using buttons on the case
2) Directly after there the screen is black after Kubuntu logo. Can still access the login screen with alt - f1 though
Is Xscreensaver secure?
Like, if my laptop were stolen, could a determined person bypass the login?
Drive is encrypted, so I know booting from a livecd isn't an option, and that "backspace 28 times" thing was a meme by Windows/Macfags thinking we'd been knocked down a peg.
Sounds like what you're describing might be the issue, I already attempted to fiddle with the BIOS settings like boot order and overriding the boot device, I even disabled UEFI boot support just to be safe, without any success.
It's weird, I've been using both systems simultaneously for years and I never ran into this issue.
I'm going to attempt to boot the startup repair utility from an external win7 usb and then run 'bootrec /fixmbr' with both disks connected to see if it's any good, will report back with results if I manage to make it work.
I tried looking up the issue online but this is mostly an issue that happens to people who overwrite the whole windows installation, or somehow write some important bootup data to a secondary disk, in my case, the second disk (debian) wasn't even connected while installing windows 7. What a travestite of an OS.
Yeah, these problems are normally are due to having both boot partitions on the same physical disk.
Pretty funny that actually segregating things as far as possible still results in fuckups.
I guess I'm keeping linux in a VM until I have a fresh desktop to play with.
Should also mention, you might wanna look up how many reconnect cycles (mechanically) your sata connectors are rated at.
They're typically no more than 200, so be careful you don't wreck the drive while you're testing.
There are basically two types of screenlockers:
1) Locks the current virtual terminal session (aka the current TTY)
2) Locks all virtual terminals
Xscreensaver is of the first kind, which means that someone can alt+ctrl+F2 (or anything up to F9 or so) into a different terminal session. Of course, if that session hasn't been messed with, they'd have to login.
Most screenlockers that you'll come across are of the first type. Lockers packaged with display managers tend to be the second type.
In terms of "is Xscreensaver particularly more vulnerable than other screenlockers?", I'd say no. It's pretty secure for what it is, which is why it ships with most things and is literally the default X screensaver/locker.
Sweet. Glad I don't need to give up my pretty colors in the name of security.
ctrl-alt-f2 takes you to a terminal login, yeah. No legitimate ways past it.
And most people I know wouldn't even now what the fuck to do at a terminal login screen.
Good news, I managed to make it work by running 'bootrec /rebuildbcd' from the startup repair option, I still receive the 'startup repair' error message and I can't get rid of it, but I can boot into win7 aside from that. Thanks for the SATA connector tip, I presume you mean the SATA connector on the end of the disk, and not the cables, right?