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Previously on: >>52464630

A thread for all Unix-Like Operating Systems, Macfags/OSX/Apple shit excluded.

All GNU/Linux, BSD, and other Unix users are welcome.

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a distro on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux, whatever)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
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>>52477053
You can sidebar of workspaces on many DEs. How is that a selling point?
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>>52473349
Help me senpai, you're my only hope. Currently having one eye on the screen left of the one that doesn't work, and one eye on the one to the right.
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Hello,

Calibre isn't mounting my Kobo on my fresh install of Slackware 14.1. It was just fine before, any idea ?
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>>52477225
Consider what you did after the last time you mounted kobo on your calibre.
Software doesn't stop working "just because"
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>>52477221
That's basically what I was getting at, and why I posted it here instead of an Apple thread.

Which linux DE has the best potential aesthetically? Or a better question, which produces better results more often (because those with the most potential tend to have the worst results, they are used mostly by enthusiasts who have no aesthetic sense).
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>>52476970
Did anyone here successfully create a bootable USB stick for open suse? I downloaded the ISO from opensuse.org (4.7gb) and put it on my USB stick
1) via unetbootin which didn't work. No idea why. I only saw
>default
In the boot options
2) via sudo dd. Which actually worked but as soon as I clicked on installation it only said that the installation medium is missing.

Am I retarted? The second option worked flawlessly with Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS

I'm on Ubuntu GNOME currently (14.04)
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I have an SSD and an HDD for storage.
I want to dual boot Windows & Linux, so would it be possible to install both OS on my SSD, while having both OS use the HDD for storage?
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>>52477378
yes, put / and windows on the SSD and /home and another windows partition on the HDD.
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>>52477363
According to the /g/ ricing wiki page KDE (now called Plasma 5 instead of kde5) and Enlightenment are the best out of the box eye candy.

Gnome also looks nice imo.


The desktop threads mostly have tiling managers only from what I've seen though.
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Please, what is the BEST Linux?
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>>52477479
>Enlightenment
Ugly drop-down menus from what I can see on google.
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>>52477431
That simple? Alright thanks m8.
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>>52477538
There will undoubtely be a ton of themes and mods. Google images aren't reliable.
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>>52477560
>out of the box
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Why is it that I can rarely if ever see any file extentions in Arch? Do files generally just not have extentions?
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>>52477495
see: >>52466127
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>>52477593
you mean this? http://linux.die.net/man/1/mimetype
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Why can't I add new cursors on Mint? I added the folder in /.icons but when selecting it, it won't change.
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>>52477675
I mean if I use a file manager like Dolphin I see extentions for .jpg .png etc. But never any of the base files and never any .txt files.
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So, I'm using urxvt, and I randomly pressed Alt+L, which executed "ls".

I did the same thing in xterm, and I got gibberish, so I'm leaning towards this being a urxvt thing and not related to either bash or zsh (the latter of which I'm using).

However, for the life of me, I can't find any documentation saying that, by default, Alt+L does this. Nothing from urxvt, nothing from zsh or bash (which both say that Alt+L should make text lowercase). Obviously, I can play around with keyboard combinations in urxvt to figure out what does what, but it'd be nice if there were a list somewhere...
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What would be the easiest way to get legitimate GNU/Linux Experience™ on an Android tablet?
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>>52477710
Still didn't work. Maybe it's because of the folder? cursors contains the images which work in gimp.
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>>52477742
You can set Urxvt and xterm hotkeys inside your .Xressources manually. The defaults may differ and this is maybe what you just discovered.
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>>52477750
install the arm version of debian i guess.
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>>52477822
What I mean is, I don't care that Alt+L does that since I don't plan on changing anything. I want the list of default keybindings, just for reference.
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Hello Mates, Linux-Beginner here looking for some help.

I recently installed LinuxMint alongside Windows 8 on my machine. Windows is sitting on the SSD (which is /dev/sda), and the Linux Partitions root, swap and home are on a HDD (/dev/sdb/). I installed the bootloader on /dev/sda, which has been a mistake, because if i don't tell BIOS to boot from the SSD, the computer enters GRUB rescue mode (only when I last used Linux though, seems like Windows overwrites some boot files).

So my Question is: How do i reinstall GRUB and where do I place it?
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When I was on Windows I used to ProTeX distribution to dowload MikeTeX and TeXStudio.

I liked TeXStudio because it had a retard proof compile button and it helped me with TeX syntax in addition to automatically downloading any packages I needed (though I rarely need new ones). It's biggest downside for me was it's bloated interface.


TeXstudio seems to be available for Arch. However, I was wondering if anyone knows any good alternatives. What do you guys use?
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>>52477960
let it boot from ssd
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>>52477960
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall
this could help you.
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>>52478026
how?
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Trying to play Dragon's Dogma on Linux.
The torrented version worked, but I wanted to pay for it.
Steam wouldn't let me install the game, so I used steamCMD to do it manually.
Wine threw a couple of errors, so I installed lib32-mpg123, samba, and some other 32bit library.
Now when I do
wine .local/share/Steam/DDDA.exe

I get no errors, but the app just doesn't run.
What do I do? Using Arch, by the way.
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>>52478040
>>how?
by reading it, it tells you how to install grub on the partition you specify. it also tells you everything else about grub you may want to know.
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>>52478050
Check at WineHQ if your program is listed there. Most solutions are collected there.
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>>52478026
>https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall

Looks simple enough. Where does the bootloader go?
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>>52478106
to the drive you want to boot from, i would use the ssd. type lsblk to see which partition is on which device and then use the one you want after the command they tell you in the manual.
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>>52476970
Currently using Manjaro and thinking of trying Xubuntu

What's the word on this distro my mans?
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>>52478308
xubuntu is comfy but remember that it's a point release.
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>>52478336
Yeah, it's going to be hard to move away from rolling
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>>52478336
>>52478533
>stability
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>>52477268
>implying computer science is an exact science
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How safe is ntfs writing with Linux?.
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I put LinuxMint on this laptop I had laying around. It's working find except for the trackpad is making it really hard to type on. I looked at the options for it and I don't see any for any sort of 'palm detection' or a way to disable it while typing.

Is there something I can download to make it not suck as much?
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>>52478943
Avoid it. You can but...don't.
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>>52478998
So if I entertain the dual booting option should I just dedicate a partition to pass files around with fat32 or what.
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>>52479029
Not sure desu. FAT32 does have the 4GB limit.

Can mount ntfs as RO so only need to get files from linux>wiindows. How much/why you need that.
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>>52478943
I share my 1TB HDD with Windows and GNU/Linux (both on a SSD). No problems so far, using it to store Movies and Steam games (in seperate folders for each plattform).

Just don't forget to install NTFS 3G (if it's not included in your distro i. e. Arch), or you'll be wondering, why you can't write to NTFS partitions.
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>>52479060
Well I wanna move to Linux progressively but for now Windows is a must due to work related software. I think I will RO ntfs partitions and use my 64GB dropbox as common storage.
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>>52479060
>>52479137
Had my linux>windows backwards. Meant windows>linux.
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>>52479029
exfat
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>They told me I would only need 100 GB for my root partition.
>They forgot to tell me Arch installs literally everything in that partition.
>2 days in I'm only halfway done installing all the tools I need for work and I'm already on 20% used.

Now that I've fallen for this troll is there anyway to fix it without deleting everything? Can I just use dd to get more space or will it destroy everything?
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>>52477941
Cheers!
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>>52476970

You forgot one of the alt options many of us use

5) Keep your desktop computer as windows/mac for proprietary software/gaming use, buy a thinkpad and go balls deep with it

Windows desktop and Linux laptop is a great alternative to dualbooting for anyone with a few hundred bux to spare.

Pic related is my old battlestation from 2014 with my linux mint thinkpad in the middle. I have since moved things around to be better, but you get the idea. Good method for someone who doesn't want to potentially ruin anything on their main pc.
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>>52479351
What about the opposite: Win for laptop work/compatibility, lin for home/leisure?
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>>52479376

Depends on what you do for work. I'm a CGI freelancer and must have access to Zbrush, which needs a good desktop GPU to run properly. Trying to do /3/ related work on a laptop is aids.
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>>52476970
I'm on Antergos and I think I've made my computer all unorganized trying to virtualize stuff to use FL Studio and play more Steam games.

Should I just wipe and do a clean install of windows 7 and then Antergos? I've followed every guide I could find on installing FL 10/12 and it doesn't work, and I've tried to install some apps directly through playonlinux and they also don't work/start.
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>>52479303
Uh what. I run Arch on a 20GB partition and don't even use half of it.
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>>52479864
Things like TeXlive alone take like 1GB. Python2+3 with zero shit added other than scipy is another 1GB for me.

What do you use your OS for? Making dank minimalist dektop pics or do you only develop in a few light install langauges or something?
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>>52479906
>Python2+3 with zero shit added other than scipy is another 1GB for me.
What.

>What do you use your OS for?
...Stuff? Web browsing, video watching, music listening, program editing, sometimes gaming with WINE, torrenting.
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>>52476970
Distro like Arch Linux that isn't a meme?
I've run Arch before but I don't want a meme distro.
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>>52479925
>What.
Rougly 80% of the academic world is still using Python 2.7 and refuses to port to 3, so everyone has to use to collaborate basically.

I have no idea what will happen when support ends in 2020. Probably rebellion.
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>>52480048
The what was asking how the fuck it takes 1GB senpai. I have them both installed too and it's almost nothing.
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>>52480048
>Packages (2) python-3.5.1-1 python2-2.7.11-1
>Total Installed Size: 172.03MB
You what?
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Hey, I just moved to Debian from Ubuntu, and I can't seem to find any packages in aptitude. Like, even with firefox, it says package not found. I tried
apt-get update
but it didn't do anything. Any help?
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>>52480112
>>52480157
I'm getting 450 mb per instance.

Only other non-standard packages I have yet are mpi, sympy and sql. I don't know.
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>>52480278
Oh right Ipython too, I'm not sure if it's in the same dir or how much it takes.

But I still have a shitton of packages to add to work on all my projects.
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>>52480228
unless you've enabled nonfree repos then anything proprietery, closed source or even just trademarked/copyrighted will be unavailable. it's retarded but that's what they call freedom
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>>52480228
You can blame GNU mentality for that, look for iceweasel.
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>>52480314
I see.
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>>52476970
>upgrade
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>>52480228
>he uses nonfree software
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I've heard that you can customize almost any distro, so what are the real differences between them then?
Excluding ease of install and preinstalled software, what attributes should I be comparing the distros with? All I can think of is package managers.
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>>52480314
It's retarded to run closed source software. What's the point in switching to Lunix if you still cuck yourself?
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>>52480596
no it's retarded to use an inferior program over a superior one because of ideology
I'm not sayin all closed source is better than open source but use the best fucking tool for the job man, and if you're that paranoid just decompile the program and read the source, not that you'd understand it
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>>52480635
>just decompile the program and read the source
Please leave /g/.
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>>52480590
Repositories, communities, and documentation.
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>>52480635
>just decompile the program and read the source
Maybe you should try knowing at least a bit about what you're talking about before you advocate a side in a controversial issue.
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>>52480824
So package managers/repos are the main thing to consider when choosing a distro? I don't need a community.
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>>52480868
Communities also function as tech support and resources for past answers. You might not need it, but it's nice when it's there and relevant to you.

Also, distros might have certain preferences for some things: where config files are stored, how man pages are set up, etc. Things like init systems might also be of interest. Whether the distro is rolling-release or point-release might matter, along with whether there's long-term support for a system that doesn't jump on feature-upgrades.
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>>52481003
Thanks. What distro doesn't use systemd these days anyway? The stable vs rolling release is another great point though, looks like the major difference between distros is just how they deal with getting you software.
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>>52480761
>boo hoo I don't understand how programs work so you should shut up and stop embarrassing me
ok kid
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>>52481255
first day on /g/?
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>>52481255
Dude, you can't read the source code of closed source software. What the fuck do you think CLOSED source means? At best you can reverse enigneer it, but you can never read it.
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>>52481274
>wah I'll subtlety call him a newfag because I don't understand that compiling the source give you a program so decompiling a program gives you the source
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>>52481297
Sometimes I wish stupid people are just baiting.
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>>52481341
go take a comp sci class kid and stop pretending your self taught bullshit means anything
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>>52481297
hi shitty apps reddit rekt guy
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>>52480635
>just decompile the program and read the source
Right, machine code maps to human-readable source code very easily.
Reverse engineering isn't ridicously tedious at all.
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>>52481297
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>>52481394
>implying you're not the redditor
>implying you haven't been samefagging to defend your nonsensical position

>>52481410
>lol I don't know what I'm doing with a computer
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>>52481297
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>>52481426
Compiling is a one way road nigger.
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>>52481426
I'm convinced that you're not even a programmer, or if you are, all you know is either Java or Python.
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>>52481491
>>52481492
>>52481493
samefag
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>>52481516
You might want to look at the reply times, mate.
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>>52481516
Literally 1st day on the internet.
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~ Love is in the air ~
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When I'm at low disc space, I get a popup. What program is causing that? I want to change it from 1G to 5. On Ubuntu.
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>>52481777
http://www.hecticgeek.com/2014/12/disable-low-disk-space-warning-ubuntu-14-10/
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>>52478050
it might expect the PWD to be where the executable is
instead of
wine .local/share/Steam/DDDA.exe

try;
cd .local/share/Steam
wine DDDA.exe
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>>52478943
very safe these days
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Today I issued usermod -l <newuser> <olduser> to rename my account, and then changed the home directory. I chown'ed -R name:group my home directory, and now pulseaudio keeps shitting the bed. Only ONE program can generate audio now, and unloading the module-something-cork does not fix the problem.
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>>52479303
you'll have hard time filling 100G for everything besides /home, unless you install lots of games or something (not including steam games, steam installs games under /home)

yes, you can move/resize partitions if need be, though it's recommended to backup beforehand (if something goes wrong the volume will probably be fucked, you'd need to be pretty unlucky though)
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so I want to be able to use my x220t as a tablet more and want to remap one of the buttons on the screen bezel to open gnome's caribou on screen keyboard, but I don't know the command to open caribou... anyone able to help me out?
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>>52482294
Have a look at the config of pulseaudio.

Changing a username with Linux is bad practice.
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>>52482235
nope, nothing!
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rm -rf /
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>>52482383
>Have a look at the config of pulseaudio.
Nothing's changed... I deleted the dotfile and a new one has since been generated. It still doesn't work.

>Changing a username with Linux is bad practice.
Yup, I am aware of that now. It shouldn't be the case though.
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>>52482361
You're telling me games are installed in /root too? What the fuck? I don't play games, but people should be recommending at least 1TB on the root partition.

I'll backup and resize, thanks.
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>>52482294
On that note, I am using KDE+xdm, and the 'shutdown' and 'restart' buttons are gone too.
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>>52482428
>/root
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>>52480635
you can only dissassemble a binary (all you get with closed source programs), this is not remotely the same thing as source code, you can make small changed if you know the binaries' target architecture well and can figure out where and what to change, which is no easy feat without debug symbols (typically stripped out) or comments (only exist in the source)

i'm not even a programmer and i understand how silly that is
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>>52479303
>100G for root
anon... 20G is more than enough
you are doing something very wrong
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>>52482392
1. does running the game like this work in windows? keep in mind the steam version likely has steam integration and/or copy protection intact, which may not exist in the pirated copy (pirated copies are often easier to use with wine, as many copy protection systems don't function properly in wine)
2. what is the output you get?
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>>52482427
The system config file. Not the one in your home dir.

Check in /etc/group if your old nick is not used.
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>>52482538
>Check in /etc/group if your old nick is not used.
Not used.

uid=1000(anon) gid=1001(anon) groups=1001(anon),7(lp),10(wheel),14(uucp),18(audio),19(cdrom),27(video),80(cdrw),85(usb),100(users),35(games),440(plugdev),441(scanner),1000(guest)
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>>52482503
1) I don't have windows, so who knows. The pirated version works, however. The copy I'm currently trying to get to work is the copy I paid for. Steam wouldn't let me download it because blah blah unsupported platform, so I used steamCMD to force it to think my platform was Windows - this version is completely integrated with steam.
2) Heh. Here you go.
[[email protected] ~]$ wine .local/share/Steam/DDDA.exe
[[email protected] ~]$
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>>52477179
Forever monitorless.
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>>52482428
/ and /root are two different things, /root is the root users' "home" folder

games installed with your package manager typically go in /usr or /opt

you can split off potentially-large folders like /var and /opt to seperate partitions if you need to at any time

my /, not including /home, /var and /opt is about 8G, this is my main, 4 year old installation of arch (xonotic and enemy territory take ~1G of that, they're in /usr)
my /var is 14G, 9.5G of which is used by emby (a media server)
my /opt is 24G, with borderlands the pre-sequel taking 11G and shadowrun hong kong also about 11G

you can relocate individual items as well, i could move those big games elsewhere and replace them with a symlink, for example
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>>52482577
you might have better luck running the windows version of steam in wine, and launching the game from there
if the game uses resources from steam, it might expect steam to be avaiable/running
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> install grsecurity
> configure pax
> restrict mprotect kills Palemoon
> try to execute file from terminal
> says "killed"
> no verbose option
> no other data

There's gotta be some way of working this one out... Paxctl claims the executable file doesn't have any extended attributes that would be relevant.
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>>52482682
ugh
that won't solve my sound issues, will it?
as is, the pirated version doesn't play any sound

making a dual boot solely for the purpose of the occasional game i want to play is super agitating
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>>52482468
Cracker spotted.
>>52482577
try cd .local/share/Steam/; wine DDA.exe
also see:
>>52482682
>if the game uses resources from steam, it might expect steam to be avaiable/running

This. If steam doesnt find the api files, the game usually stops at some point or doesnt start at all.
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>>52482769
Sorry! I meant:
>if the game doesnt find the steam api files.

Just copy the api files from the pirated version?
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>>52482769
it has the same exact output
yeah, i guess that's my only option
man, i just want to play a game with a cute loli mage companion
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>>52482369
caribou
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>You can decompile a binary into its source code
People actually believe this?
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>>52482798
you could copy the cracked steam api dll and game executable over, but then you'll end up with exactly the same thing as the pirated version (note that this is generalized, unless you get the crack seperately you won't know exactly which files were modified in the cracked version, and it might not even be the same version/patch level of the game)
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>>52482762
>that won't solve my sound issues, will it?
who knows
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>>52482840
Absolutely.
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>>52482805
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>>52482769
>Cracker spotted.
closest i've got is a partial translation of hatsune miku: project diva for psp

didn't touch any code, just swapped out text from the games' binary (as well as editing many images containing text)
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>>52482932
didn't specify which distro you're using, but the arch package puts the caribou binary at /usr/lib/caribou/caribou
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I have a laptop with switchable graphics. It's an AMD APU and a dedicated ATI graphics card.

When I do
sudo cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch


I get
0:IGD:+:Pwr:0000:00:01.0
1:DIS: :DynOff:0000:01:00.0


Is 'DynOff' the same as 'Off?' I ask because my laptop runs hot and the battery life sucks.
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Which DE has the best power management/lowest consumption? I want to do a minimal install of Ubuntu on my laptop.
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>>52483060
I am using arch, can I map a button to a file location? I can't even open the keyboard from there in nautilus... I'm obviously no linux wizard...
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>>52483200
LXDE is designed for that. Use it or LXqt
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>>52483200
>>52483251
the lighter the better, also install tlp http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html
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>>52478050
> wanted to pay for it
> pay for it
> pay
> pay

Generally if you run steam in your wineprefix you can install games to it.

try making a wineprefix, installing steam to it, and installing games normally from steam wine.

WINEPREFIX=~/.whatever WINEARCH=32 wine ~/.whatever/path/to/exe
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Ok team, I have an external drive that I want to use as a portable OS. Because normies, I want it to run inside windows, so I'll be needing a VM. How should I go about this?
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>>52483405
Install windows to the portable drive (surely you can do this, right windows?), then install vbox, then spin up a VM?
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>>52483405
So if I'm reading this correctly, you already have Windows installed, but want to have a VM inside of it that uses the external as its storage device? Should be easy enough with Virtualbox and Virtualbox extensions
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Is Fedora 23 usable yet? I remember that rpmfusion took a while to get packages setup for it, but surely it's been done now?
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I'm an idiot newbie.
I read http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ and it says not to worry about anything except free -/+ buffers/cache:.

However according to the ramnode graph I'm using a shitload of RAM although the bar seems to agree with linuxatemyram and free-h that I'm not actually using that much.

Who do I believe? Is it ok to increase the RAM allocation of one of the programs I'm running or will I cause something to explode?
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>>52483498
I was running 23 about a month after it came out.

It's pretty stable and RPMfusion's all up to date.
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>>52483496
It's not very portable if you need to install a vm on any machine you want to use it on thoug.h
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>>52483480
I'm gonna need the VM on the portable drive so the host computer doesn't need it installed. This may be a problem with drivers and such though. I need to do this because I don't actually have a decent computer of my own, and instead use other computers.
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>>52483500
Change your vm.swapiness
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>>52477479
Cinnamon is bretty gud imo
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>>52483519
Not sure if a truly portable VM exists though. Virtualbox at least requires admin on the host machine, to install networking drivers etc.
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>>52477479
The desktop threads are full of pointless memery. They aren't people who really use their computers to do work etc.
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>>52483523
Apparently it's set to 0.
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>>52483553
qemu
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>>52483574
Will qemu work with a large OS? I've only ever used it with tiny things like DSL
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>>52483601
yes
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>>52483405
You'd be better off installing your stock OS, complete with bootloader on the drive.
Then you just plug it in, restart the computer and change bios to boot from the drive.

Locked BIOS could get in the way, but as far as i know only businesses or schools use that shit.
People rarely password lock the BIOS, whereas installing a VM is gonna take ages and require admin.
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>>52483606
Lol this is not Linux's fault
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>>52483606
???
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Quick linux question

I have a folder "/home/arch"

That belongs to the user "arch"

I'd like to give read and write permissions, and all sub directories to the user "user"

How can I do this?
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>>52483606
I have never used a linux distro where I wasn't able to see a preview of the image I was uploading.
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>>52483658
sudo chown -R user: /home/arch
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>>52483623
Yes, I use university computers that will get in the way. Also laptops with uefi that I don't really have the right to muck around with.
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>>52483676
Awesome thank you
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Looks like Pajeet is being paid extra today
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>>52483668
there's often a setting which sets a limit to how big a file can be before it will not be thumbnailed automatically
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>>52483645
> not organizing your pictures folder

Disgusting.

>>52482725
Gonna shamelessly re-ask this question.
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>>52483700
I'm not a very organized man
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>>52476970
>A thread for all Unix-Like Operating Systems
>Macfags/OSX/Apple shit excluded

Retarded.
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>>52483676
>>52483694
This will change ownership, so the original user won't be able to access it. If you don't care about ANY other user accessing it, just use chmod to add read/write/optional execute to others:
sudo chmod -R o+rwX /home/arch

I could have the permissions and the directory round the wrong way, not on Gnu/Linux atm. Try this if it doesn't work:
sudo chmod -R /home/arch o+rwX
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>>52483729
There's some util that lets you set specific user permissions isn't there? I can't remember the name.
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>>52483680
Nvm, I thought portable VMs were a meme but like >>52483574 said qemu is perfect for this.

Try this guide: http://willhaley.com/blog/simple-portable-linux-qemu-vm-usb/
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>>52483645

Send me this image, anon! :3
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>>52483718
> macfags come in shilling their bullshit problems
> get called out
> thread derailed arguing about the fact that iOS and OSX are technically Unix-like OSes

It's for the good of the community. Macfags have their own threads.

>>52483714
I don't really have much right to judge on that front. I had something like 2500 pictures all in one folder before I decided to spend two days putting them all in specific folders.
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>>52483729
How would I allow only the users "arch" and "user" to have permission to the folder though?
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>>52483748
thanks
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>>52483729
he could also change the group to "users", which all users should be a member of
sudo chown -R :users /home/arch


(don't substitute "users")
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>>52483740
Well, you can just add both users to a new group, and chgrp the folder and contents.
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>>52483751
Well if you insist
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>>52483788
You can. That's so god damn messy though I hate that. That's got to suck huge dick in big environments.
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>>52483500
It accepts any value from 0 =100.
Humor me and change it to one.
Then issue this:
sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

And see what happens
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>>52483763
Create a new group, arch_and_user or whatever, then chgrp recursively on /home/arch. Make sure the group permissions are the same as the user permissions, and you are good to go.
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>>52483807
lol that's retarded. why can't it do what windows has done for years and let you do them on a per user basis
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>>52483763
add both users to a new/unique group, then see >>52483785

(make a group with;
sudo groupadd groupname

and add the users to it with;
sudo usermod -aG groupname username
)
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>>52483802
Not really, it's more annoying when you have to do it for smalls groups of people like this example.

Simply making a group so 100+ people can access the same folder is actually pretty efficient.
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>>52483828
linux supports ACL's like you're referring to, though i've never used them in linux
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>>52483853
I was thinking more of an environment with 100 people where groups of 3 people have to have access to a folder each but none of the others.
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>>52483830
So would I do

sudo chown -R :"groupname" /home/arch
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>>52483872
yea, but without the quotes
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>>52483872
chown changes the owning user. chgrp changes the owning group.
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>>52483803
Permission denied. I think that might be because it's openVZ.
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>>52483828
Because if you wanted to share a folder with dozens of people, doing on a per user basis is fucking retarded.
Even if you have the list ready, you'd have to use it every fucking time you want to add another folder to the share.

Instead, you make the group ONCE, then just use the group name if you want to add more folders to the share. Easy.
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>>52483888
Note the : senpai, he's leaving user: blank and only changing :group.

Eg. normally chown user:group
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Long time /g/ lurker, first time linux user.

What can anyone tell me about it? Is it botnet? Is it a good babby's first linux?
>>
> Linux Newfag
> Fall for install Gentoo meme
> noideawhatimdoing.tar.bz2
> Stumble blindly through process for 12 days
> End up having to pore over tons of documentation
> learn a shitload about Linux
> finally get it to work after starting over and spending three days

Anyone else /schoolofhardknocks/ here?
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>>52483904
Ok, didn't see that at all. Why though, that's just a confusing way to do it. Will it leave the user the same?
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>>52483888
note the colon

it seperates/denotes user and group

that is;
>user:group
changes both user and group
>user:
changes the user
>:group
changes the group
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>>52483910
Meant to ask about Zorin.
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>>52483895
You need sudo or su prvis
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>>52483917
Well at least you didn't give up and come on /g/ to bitch about how shitty Linux is
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>>52483927
I ran it as sudo.
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>>52483919
Tbh I've never tried it, I'm assuming it will. I'd just use chgrp or chown existinguser:group though.
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>>52483938
That's a fact. I'm running that very Gentoo install as we speak. Never going back.
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Thanks guys I got the folder permissions working.
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>>52483910
>>52483924
Haven't heard of it, I bet it's shite. All those "linux for windows users" end up being more buggy and have a worse experience than real distributions. Use something common, like Debian or Mint or CentOS, not some tiny weird project like Zorin.
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>>52483868
Managing the groups is still easier when you keep the list of who is in each group separate from which group can access each folder.

It may well mean you need to have "supergroups" that are nothing but combinations of smaller groups, but that's what scripts are for.

I've never heard anyone talk about managing large network environments on windows without swearing a lot.
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>>52483919
[email protected] ~ % ls -la file             
-rw-r--r-- 1 mikurok mikurok 0 Jan 18 13:08 file
[email protected] ~ % sudo chown :users file
[email protected] ~ % ls -la file
-rw-r--r-- 1 mikurok users 0 Jan 18 13:08 file
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For some reason I am unable to install transmission on my CentOS 7 server. I get this error

Error: Package: transmission-gtk-2.13-1.el6.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libevent-1.4.so.2()(64bit)
Error: Package: transmission-cli-2.13-1.el6.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libevent-1.4.so.2()(64bit)
Error: Package: transmission-daemon-2.13-1.el6.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libevent-1.4.so.2()(64bit)
Error: Package: transmission-common-2.13-1.el6.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libevent-1.4.so.2()(64bit)
Error: Package: transmission-gtk-2.13-1.el6.x86_64 (epel)
Requires: libnotify.so.1()(64bit)


How can I resolve the dependencies
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>>52483951
Nice job anon, it's a fun experience
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>>52483970
Fair enough. I assume there's some way to easily clean up groups too when those folders no longer exist etc?
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>>52483965
I saw it on the wiki's flowchart. Thanks for the heads up anon.
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>>52483982
Why can't you install the deps? Does CentOS not provide the correct version of them?
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>>52483982
Install libevent and libnotify????
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>>52484039
The packages aren't available
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>>52480596
Because not everyone gives a shit about Stalan or his retarded ideology
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>>52484009
Picking a distro because it's similar to windows is never thi right decision. And not one of those attempts at similarity have been good. Pick a "real" distro, something in the top 10 on distrowatch, if you want any hope of getting help and support from users online.
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>>52484008
Entirely depends on the perms, if a folder's contents has been given assigned to a group, the folder itself won't necessarily be deletable by group members.

It's up to whoever is maintaining the system to keep a track of whatever shares they've setup and their locations so they can see what is or isn't being used.
In most cases, I'd guess that the same scripts used to make the shared folders could be easily modified to delete them and clear the defunct groups too.
Nobody in their right mind does this shit manually on a large scale.
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>>52483718
If you have a problem, just go call one of your "geniuses" :^)
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>>52484050
Looks like you have some compiling to do, or you need to add another repo.
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>>52484051
Then why choosing Linux? Because 1337? :^)
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>>52484134
Im just installing it from source
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>>52484142
Free as in free beer and it's fun to be able to change every aspect of the system

I don't give a fuck about Stallmans ideology.

Also you forgot to say GNU+Linux
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>>52484142
Because i like the CHOICE of what software i want to install, and how it reacts with my system. If i want to use closed source to fit my needs, im going to chroot it and limit it from accessing all of my machine(something you cant do in windows)
ALL of the linux source code is constantly being audited by third parties not associated with FSF
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>>52484143
Right, but you need those deps, so find out how centos allows you to get those deps, find them in a third party repository or compile them your self and install them ahead of transmission.
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>>52484142
That's kinda the point about using a libre operating system, you get to choose what libre and non-libre components you use with it.

Sticking to only FOSS software is by no means bad.
But if you're only doing it because you think so much as touching a single proprietary program somehow takes away the "freeness" of every other program you use, you probably need stronger meds.
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>>52484199
Can you find out for me?
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>>52483700
Fixed it.

Turns out reading man pages is a valuable skill.

for reference

 paxctl -c palemoon/*


no -r option so I had to manually go into every subdirectory and execute that command, substituting the folder name of course.

Then I repeated that process with
 paxctl -m 


Worked like a dream.

Install Grsecurity, guys. There's no downside.

https://grsecurity.net/

> inb4 tinfoil hat

This fixes a bunch of glaring security issues that should logically have been fixed years ago in upstream Linux.
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ugly inbreds
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>>52484424
Ew
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>>52484424
Is that you and your mom OP???
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>>52484424
>Debian users in one post
>>
>try to install ubuntu
>the text rendering is absolutely fucked
>try to google a fix
>nothing works
>give up and try linux mint
>same thing
>figure ubuntu-based systems are just shit, try to install linux mint debian
>entire desktop just becomes an array of red bars as if my GPU was having a stroke
>the only distro that hasn't given me any problems yet is arch
>tfw have no idea what the fuck is going on or what happened when I tried to install the other distros
is my hardware shitting itself or something
i feel like that'd be the only explanation for what I just experienced
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>>52484546
Never heard anything like that. What exactly was wrong with the rendering in ubuntu? It's all essentially the same underneath so if you got what you wanted with arch then you most likely could get the same thing with ubuntu or mint.
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>>52484546
debian >> ubuntu >> mint
debian is the base
ubuntu is configured and bloated debian
mint is ubuntu without unity
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>>52484636
> What exactly was wrong with the rendering in ubuntu?
this is what was happening.
i tried the fixes in (http://askubuntu.com/questions/584922/how-do-i-fix-fonts-not-rendering-and-missing-letters) but I was getting this problem in the fucking installation media so i couldn't do much. I even thought it was a problem with my USB stick I was using to install it with so I tried a different one but to no avail.
genuinely have no idea what went wrong
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>>52484733
That's weird, I have no idea either.
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>>52482369
no one?
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>>52484341
>Install Grsecurity, guys. There's no downside.

yeah, except time invested in getting it working

Honestly, is there any point to investing heavily into security on desktop Linux (especially when you're not doing server or SSH related stuff)? Or, perhaps as a better question, is there a method of "hardening" your system as a desktop user that's also fairly easy/straightforward?
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>>52484788
so, wait, is the program at /usr/lib/caribou/caribou ?

Because you can run it by typing its location.
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>>52484828
this isn't doing anything, thanks though, if I enable the keyboard in my "universal access" it pops up everytime I open a terminal, but I can't figure out a way to intentionally launch it...
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>>52484806
Most distributions are prepackaged with SELinux, I think, and Gentoo has its Hardened Sources. I'm sure there's other tools out there.

Practically, there's not a huge incentive to lock down your desktop this way, but if you're a tinfoil hatter and a freetard like me you want as much security as possible.

I am ideologically opposed to letting the government and corporations spy on me, so I do all the security stuff I can without disabling my system.
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>Upgrade from Windows to Linux
Isn't it a downgrade in almost every single way?
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>>52484969

yeah, the ads got a lot less helpfully targeted
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>>52484969
>M-Muh gayms
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>>52484969
No, it's just a transition.

Windows is closed-source malware designed to let you move a mouse around and click on things without any idea of how things work.

Linux can do that as well, and it's free software, open-sourced, and the alternatives to Windows software are generally superior.

The only areas Linux lags behind in are Games and Video Editing.
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>>52484906
posting this from caribou, if i use gnome's native web browser it automatically pops up... no way to use it in firefox that i can see though...
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>>52484906
Actually, try to search for it in /usr/bin. I have no idea where it would be in there, though.

You can do something like
ls /usr/bin | grep carib

and see what pops up.
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>>52484962
You're on 4chan
Mook's other company harvests data from its boards and sells it
Checkmate
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>>52485045
just a caribou-preferences css
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>>52485061
> implying I post personal information to 4chan
> implying 4chan can learn anything more about me than any other random website

And his name is Hiroshima Nagasaki.
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So i made a linux mint boot disc for 17.3 rosa works fine with my laptop but when i tried to boot off it on my main pc it gave me this an just kept repeating. Idk if its a simple fix thats why im here.
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Is there a way for Thunar to display image previews when I want to post a picture here, or do I need a different file manager?
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>>52485136
>you're making HTTP/S connections via this website
>they are tracking the boards you use and what you're posting
>even with 7vpn's and 7 proxies your personality of what you type can still generate a profile

He is Mook. We have deemed it.
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>>52485179
you would need kde, lxqt or some obscure patch...
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>>52485179
alternatively you can drag and drop from your file manager into your reply...
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>>52485086
Hmm.

As I'm looking more into it, it just seems like Caribou isn't really a standalone application but something of an add-on process attached to Gnome.

If you want something launchable, consider using Onboard:
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/onboard/
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>>52485179
You have to install tumbler (seriously).
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>>52485258
this seems much better, thank you, I'll probably browse around for other standalone keyboards as well...
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>>52485201
> collection of shitposts to /g/ and /r9k/
> making a profile of any economical value
> making a profile that could single me out of a crowd of any size
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>>52485362
Whats your social security number
And your drivers license.
You have no problem giving them to me because you're already safe right?
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>>52485254
this is working nicely

>>52485286
I'll look into it

thanks guys
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>>52485411
> work hard making myself secure
> completely throwing all common sense out the window

See, not giving away personal information on the internet is literally shit they teach to children because it's so basic.

Yeah, if I were to post shit like that, then the profile generated by my posts would absolutely be of economical value and could single me out.

The personality that they'd associate with my IP address is not necessarily the same as the personality I have IRL, and I've given a few dozen contradictory references to my appearance and age because I lie a lot.

If we're going to go this level of paranoia I may as well rip out all internet-capable hardware on my computer.
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How do I make SELinux work with systemd on Gentoo?

I get as far as trying to emerge @world but on the SELinux profile it makes everything ditch the systemd use flag and udev gets blocked.

> inb4 don't use systemd

I've heard it all before, and I don't feel like going to the trouble of removing systemd.
>>
If I am compiling something on my headless server and suddenly it drops all network connections, chances are the drive the tmp directory on ran out of free space, right?
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>tfw 8 GiB swap drive on 16GiB RAM.
madman?
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>>52476970
How do I know which font packages to download for a minimal install? For example even the triangle button next to post number shows up as an empty box to me.
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I'm using fedora 23 on my laptop. and after downloading qbittorrent I was disappointed because it doesn't calibrate and on my 3200×1800 resolution it's unusable and hurting my eyes.
What do? Same problem with steam.
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I want to make a basic 3D game where I play as a 3D ball, and move him with the arrow keys and advance a level every time I touch a green box. What do I do first? I assume render the ball in blender, but do I need Unity, and if I do, Can I get that in the Debian version of Linux?
>>
whats the full command to install ubuntu desktop environment, the unity one, on debian cli?
everywhere on the internet they say its just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop but its not working
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>>52477363
Elementary OS
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>>52480635
Cool. Post source code to Photoshop, Autodesk, and Matlab please.
>>
So what exactly is the point of installing a "beginner distro"? I have Elementary OS running on one computer and I haven't had to do anything special with it. Is there anything I should learn in this distro before I move on to something like Arch?
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I know I'm kind of late, but I'm trying to install Debian on my desktop on a separate HDD without having to use the GRUB bootloader. I installed it once and it wouldn't boot from that disk, so I unplugged my Windows disks and I'm hoping that it won't prompt me to install grub. I just wanna use UEFI to pick a drive at startup every time. Will my method accomplish this?
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>>52487459
Hey! It's Mio !ZQwOfQBZMk!. Nice to see you dude.
How's life going brother? Care to share your facebook?
>>
Do I need anti virus tools when using linux (mint) ?
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>>52487459
Woah, woah, WOAH! Mio! You here?
Let me checkt he trip, just to be sure.
>checking
Holy shit! ITS REAL. ITS REALLY MIO!
HOLY FUCK!
DUDEE!
NOICCCCCEE TO SEE YOU!!!!
>>
I really love plasma 5's "konsole" terminal, however, unlike uxrvt which stays in the same position on my DE, konsole seems for close every time I restart for some reason.

Any advice? Should I just configure uxrvt to be like konsole instead?
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>>52487374
guyz pliz ;_;
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>>52487544
halp...
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new thread:
>>52488037
>>52488037
>>52488037
>>
Just how many partitions should I have, minimum, for the system?
One for /tmp
One for /var
One for /
One for /home
What else?
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>>52488097
All you actually need is one for /. Having more is just a matter of preference.
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>>52488121
You can avoid a number of potential issues if you segregate your drive though, right?
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Going slow.
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>>52488140
Maybe, depending on whether you're doing it for a particular reason. Often people put /home on a separate partition, which is often a good idea as it allows you to encrypt/reuse your personal data separately.
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>>52487062
blender has a game engine
https://www.blender.org/manual/game_engine/introduction.html
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>>52477368
You need to use the Image Writer for that.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9haeauu9sq8xtkx
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Why does GRUB install fail on all my systems? Lilo bootloader workd but why? Trying to install Debian 8.2.0 from USB and CD to 2 diferent systems and both give same error at gruyb install.
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>>52483606
Every now and then there will be at least ONE dumb winnigger trying hard to shill in Linux thread.
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>>52477686
I've had to reboot in order for it to take effect before. You've tried that? Seems odd you have to do that in Linux, but it worked for me.
>>
Lol so after that retard failed on mozilla support, arch forums and here, he's now masquerading as a gentoo user https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1037412-start-0.html
>hurr durr there's nothing wrong with my system
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Ok, so I thinking about ditching windows and I´ve allready played around in a VM with a fedora flavor, and kinda liked it, the only thing is that I thought it runned pretty slow and had some hickups.

Should I install it dualbooted or not.or should I continue running it in a VM
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>>52491017
>I thought it runned pretty slow and had some hickups.

Definitely the VM's fault. An actual installation of a Linux distro (i.e. not a VM emulation or a LiveCD) will always be fast, certainly during the first boots after everything is set up.

If you feel confident that you can solve some hardware-specific problems in Linux, then yeah, dual-booting is the way to go.
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>>52491130
The problem I had was actually that it runned pretty smooth in the beginning, but got slow as fuck after a short while.
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>>52483606
>tumblr sized tracts of white space everywhere
And to think some people consider these DEs usable out of the box
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Why when you install Windows you need to install every single driver and Linux manages it on its own?
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So I forgot my user password on my server and if possible want to avoid changing it, I can get access to the root account, so is there a way for me to recover my users password (I don't want to change it, just find out what the fuck it was) I typed it right once and got in, but that was my fucking muscle memory doing the job and I immediately wasn't sure exactly what I'd typed.
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>>52492950
Try jack the ripper on password files. But it's a very long process.
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>>52483606
>old as fuck ubuntu 9.x
opinion discarded
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>>52484969
nice one anon xD
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>>52491017
Personally I don't really like dual-booting, but it would definitely be faster than a VM, especially one made with Windows software.

Hope you go full Linux some day. Good luck.
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>>52492950
iirc password files aren't readable even by root (they're all obfuscated).

I'm sure there's a program out there to read the files, but honestly you may as well change it.

Do you use big passwords? I can understand not wanting to change a long-ass password.

A protip: Use a sequence of four or five words seperated by spaces. Increases entropy and easier to remember.

Technically an equally long sequence of random characters is more secure, but the difficulty to remember makes it not worth it.
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>>52493073

>just given up and changed password
>reboot
>login
>fingers go to type old password
>immediately remember the part I was typing wrong

Feels so good to remember it, it was going to forever bother me if I couldn't.
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>>52489871
>I've had to reboot in order for it to take effect
LINUX CONFIRMED AS SHITTY AS WINDOWS
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>>52494119
Windows:
> oh, better reboot to make this wallpaper change!
> Better reboot to install this browser!
> Better reboot to complete this reboot!

Linux:
> Better reboot to make the password change!
> Virtually everything else is immediate

Nice bait, son.
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>>52494119
Assuming he changed it with the passwd command, he didn't need to reboot.

He probably just did it to get to the login screen or to be absolutely certain.
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I have an old desktop here.
633Mhz intel cpu and 64MB ram, is there an OS for stuff like this that doesn't OOM's real quick and can actually be used for /hsg/?
I'm thinking about running pptp on it.
No answer soon = >>>/thrash/
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>>52494402
> 633 Mhz CPU
> 64 MEGAbyte RAM

I don't think any modern distribution could run on that without making it shit itself.

Maybe some old-ass version of slackware.
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>>52494488
Okay, i'll do it, thanks.
Btw, how many fps in minecraft can slackware get?
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>>52494402
puppy
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