Is keeping him alive technology?
Good thread and fits on /g/, I was actually going to ask what peoples hobbies and jobs were in the /sp/ f1 general because I figured almost everyone was into technology and worked in tech fields.
Mods please let us keep an /f1/ general on /g/. It's pretty much /g/ - the Sport.
Formula E is cool but not more /g/ at all. It has cool tech ology but its all default. In /f1/ various technology development design and implementation is used to win and is part of the Sport.
Latest picture was released a few days ago senpai
Seems like I only have two saved but there is a shitton really, /g/ is a dank meme board. It is called technology because you need to have some techy know how to get some of the memes.
>I have a few saved.
>welp, i only had two
It's not even summer, isn't winter break over?
F1 is shit at the moment due to regulations. For those not following the sport, let me sum things up for you.
Recently they introduced completely different engines, turbo 1.6L V6s instead of N/A 2.4L V8s. Unlike the turbos of the 80s, these neither make crazy amounts of power nor make nice noises. Hell they don't even catch on fire when they fail most of the time. They are quiet, sound bad, and have to be babied during the race to keep from using too much fuel or the engine failing.
Current regulations also only let teams use 4ish engines a year, and gearboxes are similar. So you have to baby the fuck out of your car lest you get a huge grid penalty.
Honestly this is what I feel is the worst aspect of F1 at the moment. The tires are designed to have a very narrow temperature operating window. This means it is impossible for the driver to try and push the car beyond it's limits, or the tires will just stop working. Yes, it's difficult to drive the tires the right way, but it absolutely does not involve driving as fast as you can, which is the whole point of being a good F1 driver. Even the wet tires have been gimped, particularly the intermediate tires. Because of this, now the FIA puts out a safety car any time the track is wet enough to actually use the full wet tires. The last time they didn't Jules died.
For years now the aero regulations have gotten stricter and stricter in small chunks. Now all of the cars look largely the same and all of the teams spend a lot of money trying to make very minor improvements to their aero performance. There are no ground breaking innovations anymore, just little slots and holes in the designated areas.
Oh, and the cars have been ugly for the entire decade so far.
I still like F1, but the last few years have been trash. I need to get back into BTCC.
Sad but true, we need more equal and drivable engines/tyres for the "sport" part of it and ground effect needs to come back to allow for better racing/passing. It's going to fall hard when it does.
Issue with ground effects is they made the cars extremely sensitive over bumps/curbs, and they made massive fog clouds of spray. Which is saying something if you've seen a current F1 car in the wet.
Personally I'd love to see active aero (see: fans) come back and reduce the emphasis on traditional wing aero, but it'd never happen.
>rsonally I'd love to see active aero (see: fans) come back and reduce the emphasis on traditional wing aero, but it'd never happen.
I don't follow F1, could you sum up why Active-Aero isn't allowed?
Imagine if it breaks going into a fast corner or mid corner.
Admittedly that is the same as going "What happens if your front wing breaks mid corner?" but with active aero there is a bigger chance for it to fail.
Basically they made a car with it and it got banned because the other teams didn't have it and were butthurt. Look up "BT42B"
But it almost never runs at that power because of the fuel limitations.
oh boy is it time to post some f1 cars
>Catch up on pre-season F1
>See someone linked to /f1/g/ hybrid
Max is that you?
>tfw no more Group C beasts at Le Mans
80s racing was GOAT, despite being really dangerous.
Moving parts with aerodynamic benefit (ground effect is aero) is considered active aero and judges are very strict about it. The only way that car got away is because it used that fan also for cooling.
Also even though it looks impressive but the race it was in pretty much a generic F1 race. It's not like it makes cars go 10 seconds faster, and it is somewhat risky.
Current WEC is pretty cool, honestly. Much better than current F1.
But it was also the very first car to use it. The first generation ground effects cars weren't THAT much faster, but once they got refined a bit they were a huge improvement. Same with the first turbos.
>Terrible joke aside, the Brabham Alfa-Romeo BT46B was created in answer to Colin Chapman's ground effect Lotuses. Because the flat-12 and had cooling
issues and was too wide for a good ground effects package, Gordon Murray decided that a giant fan was the answer. A good decision: It won every time it was
raced, which was once. But it won that race by a hefty margin: 34 seconds.
> Other drivers hated it, claiming it rocketed stones back at them. While it cooled the engine, the fan did double duty and sucked the air out from
a completely chambered area of the car. Of course the fan's ability to suck out the air was rpm-dependent, so drivers had to go into low-speed corners much
hotter to get enough grip—an unsettling experience.
> However, overall added downforce was far beyond Chapman's Lotuses, and Chapman's opposition became
political, turning the F1 constructors against Murray's technological advantage.
>But it was also the very first car to use it.
True, but it's not like no one is going to use them. So after the first reveal it would just become standard as it always does.
This is the reasoning behind a lot of F1 rule changes, everyone's going to use it anyway, if it makes the race risky let's ban it altogether.
Personally I'd like to see a series with no limitation at all (except obvious ones like you can't emit radioactive material out of exhaust and stuff), but without a 20+ car race. Because 20+ car race is what limits what they can do for safety reasons. To me even driver is optional.
I wish there was more variety with the car designs and features in general in racing sports, especially F1.
All cars look extremely similar, have similar tech in them, there's rules what kind of technologies may be used or may be not used - I find that boring.
Why not just have the rules:
- cars may not be broader than 2 meters
- not longer than 5 meters
- may not contain any equipment that could be used to influence other cars on the track
- must contain safety measures so that the pilot doesn't die in case of a crash
- don't paint naked women on them
And that's it. Just let em do whatever. 200000 horse power? Assist technologies that keep the car on the road even at physically maximum possible speeds? Design and form completely open to whatever the designers like?
lmao good luck, FIA is like a dictator ship
Check the crazy shit that was happening in like the 80s
And even back then they quickly banned quirky designs
Yea but then youre not enviroment friendly and also it is just whoever makes the biggest engine that can complete race duration. Also it is somewhat cost cutting for smaller teams too.
>Formula E provides comprehensive live television coverage shown via major broadcasters around the globe (FOX Sports, ITV4, CCTV-5, Eurosport, Viasat, Canal+ / Sport+, Energy (Spain), TV Asahi).
Formula E has a badass safety car
>- may not contain any equipment that could be used to influence other cars on the track
>- must contain safety measures so that the pilot doesn't die in case of a crash
These two are where it gets tricky. I forget what they were called but there was an aerodynamic add on to the back of cars that became common in F1. They provided down force but it turned out it caused an the air behind them to be turbulent in a way that decreased the down force that the car behind them could create. So they were removed. Well technically any car traveling through the air can reduce the down force for the car created behind it so it is a matter of degree and that requires a judgement call. So as time goes on the amount of judgement calls made increases and your really simple and obvious rules become complicated just like the regulations are now.
When it comes to safety measures you have more judgement calls to make. Allowing a car to go faster than 5mph decreases driver safety. So you make a judgement call that allows that. Having a lighter car decreases driver survivability so you make a judgement call on how heavy it should be. Having a restraint system and helmet reduces driver vision and situational awareness so it decreases safety. It increases safety during crashes so it also helps safety. So someone has to make a judgement call on what kind of helmets and restraints are allowed.
A really simple and common sense rule system always becomes less simple and less common sense. I mean look at legal systems starting with Hammurabi's code to now.
It was a spec car for the first season.
Williams designed the battery.
Dallara the chassis
McLaren the motor, transmission and electronics
With Renault putting the whole thing together
Now they can design their own motors and transmission.
>The car is the result of a 10-month collaboration between Spark Racing Technology, McLaren Electronic Systems, Williams Advanced Engineering, Dallara and Renault.
Shit you're right
Renault have a team
Audi have a team
Citroen have a team
Mahindra (largest largest vehicle manufacturer in India) have a team
Jaguar are going to have a team
Manufacturer wise they are pretty stacked.
There is nothing they could do.
Even the fastest battery change from Tesla is a few minutes and Dallara couldn't build a chassis to allow a battery switch and meet safety standards in the time they needed it.
They could just run a shorter race but I think it would just be shit racing.
As it currently stands if you are good at conserving a bit of energy and can eek out another lap or two then it gives you that extra lap of energy in the next half of the race for attacking.
On the flipside if you use up too much energy then you have to conserve energy in the second half.
It results in pretty interesting racing as drivers end up being on different strategies late on catching each other.
The first season the transmission was fixed so everyone used the 5 speed developed by mclaren
But now it is open.
Some teams who want to run for less have used the old 5 speed.
Some have ran an updated version of it.
Some have made their own with any amount of gears including no gears.
Renault have gone with a 2 gear setup where the 1st gear is only used for the start for the best acceleration.
In the cockpit renault have an old style gearstick connected via cable to the transmission.
Once they have done the start they pull it and it switches to the second gear and they leave it alone.
Here is the article on it.
Also as to why it's stuff to do with acceleration and torque.
No but they changed the rules so that voting closes 5 minutes into the race and you only get the boost for the 2nd car.
It's also less effective as the standard power limit was raised but the max power output was not.
I don't like but they Agag is sure on it and says it raises fan awareness and attracts new people.
Alright, watching the first 3 races of the Formula E season right now so I can arbitrarily choose a team and driver to route for until F1 starts up.
So far I have picked Dragon Racing because dragons are cool.
Watching Beijing now and dang Formula E chicanes are ridiculous.
This season or last season?
The chicanes are pretty silly. Especially at Beijing.
They are going to Paris this year and may or may not go to Germany.
The track for last year was at Tempelhof airport which is now being used as a migrant camp so they need a new venue.
And it won't be used because of syrian refugees.
Replacement will probably be Norisring with an extra chicane or two.
The government has turned Tempelhof airport and surrounding buildings into a refugee camp.
Nah it's better at Norisring as it takes place exactly where the Nuremberg rallies were held.
As in the giant speaking platform the Nazis built is the main pit grandstand
>streets aren't aligned north-south
>map isn't aligned north-south
>north arrow isn't even aligned
My fucking autism
Well, we're streaming old F1 seasons here:
But right now, we're in a pretty boring stretch of seasons.
There's a megatorrent which has 36 years' worth of F1 races.
Formula E, I think, used to share their full races on Jewtube. But it's only had around 15 races across one and a half seasons so far.
You can catch up on the first three faces of Formula E this season here:
For the second two races be sure to select 'race' from the dropdown menu (of course if that is what you are trying to watch, you can watch the quals as well if you'd like. Race 1 doesn't have the option though)
Honestly, yeah pretty much. I have been mildly interested in cars ever since I started watching Top Gear on netflix (granted most of the time it's not really about cars as much as it is about doing stupid entertaining shit in cars), and this thread kinda gave me the push I needed to look into this stuff.
Race event in Nuremberg... sounds great.
That's the way to do it man. My old roomate and still pal sort of made a nice point about sports.
People always make fun of 'new fans' like they are some how lesser mostly because it makes them feel better about their own fan 'status'. He is a huge football fan and very genuine about it but didn't become one until he was an adult and he simply said 'Well that's how it works, you just decide to start watching a sport one day. No matter what people say that's what everyone does at one point.' Even though that sounds very simple and silly it is a good way to look at things. Don't let anyone pretend you are somehow lesser of an F1 fan because you just got into it or something.
tl;dr just start watching and reading about stuff matey, it's the best sport in the world in my opinion (really the only one I follow).