Just installed Arch Linux and I'm stuck with what to choose for my desktop. Should I go with a DE or a WM?
Go for a minimalistic approach. It looks hella ugly out of the box, but you can tweak it a lot.
tint2 for bar
Albert as a launcher
Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita
Very underrated, very good. Has a lot of political satire.
This. I realized I couldve installed debian and set everything by myself or just install bunsen and get rid of annoying "features" on it (bl-lock im looking at you)
There is no difference.
It is a meme /g/ came up with to try to waste peoples time.
People who claim to run WM only ends up installing other tools anyway because drawing a window is rarely enough to use their computer.
If you replace all tools a DE provides with CLI tools, you still have a DE, even if it is a shitty one.
And if you run everything through CLI, why even run a window manager? Why not boot directly to emacs?
But DE already includes a WM...
I think you mean self-assembled DE.
I personally have such setup. No preset would satisfy my needs. I'm using compiz, awn and a bunch of stuff fm gnome, kde, lxde and xfce.
>But DE already includes a WM
1. You can use a WM without a DE
2. DE's come with "builtin" WM's, but you can replace it, for example you can use the OpenBox WM with the Gnome and KDE DE's.
tl;dr: stop talking shit
You seem pretty stupid.
A desktop environment is a composition of programs. One can use a pre-made such composition (often co-developed), or assemble one him/herself. The fact one doesn't use such preset does not mean he doesn't have a composition called commonly a desktop environment. While you could have only X and a WM (or a wayland compositor), that alone wouldn't be very useful.
I know this is what you mean and you'll probably call me autistic, but I very mu dislike when people use the langue in a sloppy, improper manner.
Also, there's no such thing as a "built-in WM".
>Please tell the guy what i3 is
i3 is simple and well documented, sure it requires rethinking your approach to desktops, but it's pretty fuckingh simple if you don't try to rice it out.
Why the fuck would you reccomend this piece of shite?
It's literally the worst designed UI ever. It makes Win8 look like a masterpiece.
It boggles my mind how much of a fucking retard you'd have to be to invent something this horrifying.
xfce, lxde and the gnome2 fork are the only decent DEs currently
Gnome works fine for me on desktops and laptops.If you're using an older version that ships with say Debian, then, yeah , I could see where you might say it's shite. The latest version is buttery smooth and has alot of well integrated features.In the end, it's all opinion though, isn't it?