/hst/ Home Server Thread

>>52458707
How much power do i need for virtualization?

>>52458782
Depends on what you are virtualizing.

>>52458782
intel atom, and do not let anyone convince otherwise

>>52458707
youre hardware a shit

>>52458828
Trying to accomplish a webserver, file transfer, and DMZ

>>52458882
Is it better to run PFSense, FreeNAS, and Windows+Kodi on separate VMs running on Windows Server or Linux? I was thinking of doing something similar on a lite quad-core CPU build.

>>52459006
Avoid running FreeNAS in a VM. Not always an issue, but the fewer layers between ZFS and the drives the better.

>>52459108
So how should I run a router/firewall, file server/automated back-up, web cache, and VPN on the same machine while maintaining a DMZ between the router/firewall and the file server/automated back-up?

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>>52458707

Can I pool together different sized disk under windows 10 like I can under windows 8.1?

I have a 6tb and 3tb that I want to combine to a 9tb volume but it only gives me the option to stripe or mirror, and striping only gives me 5.5tb.

>>52459175
why would you ever do that?

>>52459191
Why the fuck not. Windows 8.1 lets you do it, and if you just hook up one drive you can at least still see the files that are on that disk instead of everything going full retard like with normal RAID.

Also it makes it easier backing up my 8tb raid10 volume.

>>52459108
passing through a hba card is fine

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What about my test server?

>>52459167
FreeNAS has virturalbox by default, so running everything out of that is possible.

>>52459225
This guy is probably right honestly. I just like muh data integrity and take as few chances as possible with it.

>>52459291
Then how does PFSense run in a VM compared to running it on bare metal? I don't have a baseline to compare it to since I've been using PFSense in a VM

>>52458707
You are a massive faget.

>>52459385
No clue senpai.

What would you guys recommend, running RAID 0 or nightly rsync cron-job for the local backup of my media server? (and yes I do have remote backups too)

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I need a decent OS on my build.

The server will be used for mostly storing and streaming files such as movies, music, and software. The server will be connected to the family TV. HTTP and FTP will be needed, of course.

I thought of Linux, but Linux isn't friendly to regulars. Since family might use this server, Linux is not really an option.

Windows 8.x is shit.

Sorta want to install Windows 10 and not worry about upgrades for a few years, but Windows 10 has so many privacy/UI issues.

Windows Server 20xx seem like overkill for what I plan to use it for.

Has anyone tried Windows Home Server 2011? I want to try it, but I am not sure about the HTTP software they use. It seems like a main part of the OS, but I want to run my own HTTP.

Could just say fuck it all and install Windows 7 Ultimate.

Wish Windows 2000 was still a thing.

>>52460059
wouldnt running RAID 0 improve retrieval speed?

If not, then I would rsync cron-job or whatever is faster and easier.

>>52460059
>>52460111
actually RAID 1 would be better

>>52460059

Do you mean RAID 1?

>>52460073
Why not just go with linux and setup a samba share for your family? Then they could access their files over the network like any other windows machine.

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what's a good small case for a beginner's server

>>52460126
>>52460127
Yes sorry I messed up there, I meant RAID 1 Mirror.

I'm curious if there's any additional problems I might experience with a RAID 1 setup over rsync?

>>52460140
I've thought about it, but the server will be like a 2nd/emergency computer. Family can barely use facebook. So should something go wrong... Plus Linux is so time consuming.

>>52460155
any old case. unless you plan on putting some money into it and make it look professional.

>>52460155
enterprise level prebuilt is the only way

>>52458874
Yeah? Well, it does exactly what I need it to do. And it has been 100% reliable for the better part of 4 years.

>>52459401
I don't see you custom making a server rack and spending money on hardware to fill it with. Fuck off if you don't like it.

>>52460155
Fractal Node series. There's a cool Lian Li case that's really good for a NAS.

do any of you use a server to serve more than 200~ users concurrently e.g. do you run some kind of small-scale social network?

>>52460643
>serve more than 200~ users concurrently e.g. do you run some kind of small-scale social network?

sometimes when mom isnt home. but why do you ask?

>>52460680
I'm just curious about how much memory/bandwidth/cpu each user ends up taking on average

How are you guys reaching your servers? Do you just use Windows workgroups and connect to them via explorer.exe?

Do you have them set up so that you can reach them anywhere in the world? Aren't you worried that chinese hackers will infiltrate your server that are facing the internet?

Can you full disk encrypt NAS/servers with things like BitLocker or TrueCrypt?

Sorry for noob, just curious

>>52460752
that would really depend on what you allow or what the users are doing. too many variables to consider.

>>52460866
windows workgroup is pretty good to start with.

connecting with explorer.exe is fine.

if you setup your router and firewall correctly, then the only open connections will be the ones you designate.

stick with known secure software and you'll have no issues with the chinese.

>encryption
i imagine so. maybe someone else (with a tin-foil fedora) will know more.

>>52459108
You van easly setup freenas in VM just attach the drives directly for direct passthrough and you will get nice speed results

>>52459385
Never really liked it, if using a IDS is critical i would rather put it infront of the entire network and not on just the server.
I don't really see any other reason to put pfsense in a VM on the server unless you want to reroute all your traffic to the pfsense box and so forth.
Virtualizing infront of network would be cool but still i wouldn't do it

>>52460752
>>52460874
Doing some basic math based on how well your system performs under a simulated load and your available bandwidth might give you a good enough rough estimate. Mystery bottlenecks can easily screw up any guestimates though.

>>52460866
>How are you guys reaching your servers?
When I had Windows computers on the network I had a samba share on the file server. Now that I don't have any Windows computers I have an NFS share. I administer the server using either SSH or Cockpit.

>Do you have them set up so that you can reach them anywhere in the world?
No. It is local network only. I would probably never have an outward facing server. That's what a VPS is for. I may get a VPS someday in the future.

>Can you full disk encrypt NAS/servers with things like BitLocker or TrueCrypt?
My entire server is encrypted using LUKS. Same for my desktop and laptop.

>Sorry for noob, just curious
No worries. It's always good to learn new things.

>>52458848
how many vms could i run at once on one of the supermicro 8 core atom boards?

>>52461132
Would an on-board Atom motherboard be sufficient enough to run PFSense that's fully loaded? What about the memory requirements?

Posts picture only viewable in 1080p or 4k for rich fags then brags about 12mp picture.. Learn things scrublord

I've been wanting to make a compute server for RPC/ssh computation.

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>>52458707
Here's my server room when I first moved in four years ago. Since then I've added a LCD, TV tuners, and color laser printer. Same raid set, but upgraded motherboard and ram and added a external HDD for rsync backups. Ubuntu server with mythtv backend. Currently serves file shares, printer shares, dedicated ts3 server, streaming live TV, movies and music with full blown DVR with remote mobile management. Not much to look at but gets the job done.

>>52459006
But.. why?
Just run pf, zfs and kodi on freebsd.

>>52461543
pf itself uses very little resources.. your atom system is more likely to be overkill.

>>52461543
Depends on your network speed, i honestly don't know i have a octa core avoton C2750 for my 1Gbit/sec connection works good for it.
But if you are unsure just ask on pfsense forums

>>52462138
Also depends what you are going to add on it, IDS(snort,suricata) vpn (aes encryption ) ect

>>52461556
The 12MP camera allowed me to take significantly sharper images compared to the piece of shit 5MP camera in my phone. Don't be a dick.

>DL360G5
Man I haven't seen one of those bastards in years. Dependable as hell

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>>52458707

5W homo servar.

>>52462982
>that DESIGNATED fan

>>52463220

It's OCd to 1.1 Niggerhertz my man. Using 3.3v gpio on the fan I get 36c whisper quite. On 5v gpio you can go as low as 32c but it's audible.

anyone here have XP with Nucs for home server purposes?

>>52463311
>fan
>no conductor
why

>>52458707
What kind of internet connection do you use? What up/down speed?

>>52462982
PLA?

Is the fan intake or exhaust?

>>52463455

It cools the entire board and pretty well too.

>>52463482

Yeah. I prefer it over ABS anyday.

>>52463532
but without a heatsink it won't do shit

>>52463532
I would prefer ABS for anything that gets even moderately warm.

>>52463557

But it already does. 8c difference on 3.3v and up to 12c on 5v

>>52463568

40c maximum isn't exactly "warm" PLA and ABS have only 20c difference in proper melting point anyway. Both plastics start to melt at around 180c for PLA and 200c for ABS optimum injection temp is 210c for PLA and 240c for ABS.

>>52463557

It's also overkill for Raspberry pi to have both. It's either passive or a fan. Some people OC and run Raspberry Pi 1 on 1.2 ghz without even cooling.

>>52463660
PLA will start to warp at a much lower temp. the inside of a car on a sunny day will ruin just about any PLA part and I've seen parts slowly warp over months just from being in sunlight a couple hours every day.
PLA rocks for prototyping but I'd choose ABS for anything that I want to last years. Not trying to argue, if it works for the application that's great. Something that hefty isn't going to be particularly prone to warping anyway.

>>52463753

ABS is a pain in the arse to print and if done properly has minor advantages anyway. PLA is just overall a good choice and easy to print with. I use it for 2 years now and nothing warped at all even when exposed to slight heat and moisture. Both plastics have very similar results by my experience. With PLA my printer has no heated bed and only consumes 60 watts.

If I want something to last and be durable I would print with nylon anyway. ABS has no advantages for my projects.

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how far should the cable jacket go into the keystone jack? this should be fine right?

>>52460073
FreeNAS maybe?

>>52463965
That's perfectly fine.

>>52459175
Yes. Storage spaces doesn't care about drive size. Redundancy gets set at the volume level.

>>52460643
Yes. I have a project that I'm working on that has about 1500 actual users generating load so that my load simulator can learn.

>>52463965
As long as there's no strain on the cable, don't worry about it.

>>52461517
Depends on the vm. From what I recall, they perform like a pair of xeon 5440s, but you may want to confirm that.

Can I use a home server to host a website for a very small Craigslist level start up or is that autistic