Last one died, time for new one.
Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
I want to buy new Thinkpad. Coming from X60s, I have three options:
X201, T61 or T400
Requirements? Ability to handle Linux nicely, relatively small (14" screen is the biggest I want). It will be used to programming, watching chinese cartoons and movies, nothing special.
Are thinkpad docking stations compatible with other models or is it a specific docking station for each one? Like if i get a x60 that comes with a dock will that dock work with a x220 or a t400 etc?
what's the word on the x250?
It looks fantastic and packs some serious hardware (up to i7, 16 gigs of ram, 256GB solid state drive) and a 1080p display with touch, but it's quite expensive.
I'm looking to upgrade from my e420s and am looking for something 13 inch or smaller for daily use. The form factor of the x250 is what I'm shooting for.
would the max spec versions of the x250 it be worth buying for 2k Canadian vs upgrading an x201?
Just how atrocious is the screen res on a x200 Tablet? I'm looking at https://ithaca.craigslist.org/sys/5399447981.html.
I've got a piece of shit android tablet with the same sceen res but it's 7", and I'm finding it hard to imagine whether or not if it will be a pain in the ass to try and take notes on it.
What do you plan on doing with it, and how much would you be sinking into upgrading your X201? Do you really need the extra bells and whistles the X250 has over an X201?
It's a nice looking computer, but damn I wish they kept older style keyboards.
update on Amazon T420 9 cell 7800mah no reviews chink battery
quad core 8 gigs of ram on "balanced" power setting is seeing 6+ hours of battery life, 7+ on power saver. Battery kicks ass for $33 shipped. I kind of want to crack it open to see if they really used Samsung cells, but based off performance I believe them. if you need a 9 cell get this one /shill
>how much would you be sinking into upgrading your X201?
I've found an x201 with 4 gigs of ram and a sup-par HDD so I'd probably just be looking into upgrading it to 8 and buying an SSD for it.
My aim is only really to future proof the thing. Need something to handle at least 4 more years of uni (systems/software eng). Having the room for upgrades is a nice thing about the x201, but I think the limiting factor will end up being the processor or the lack of gpu anyway.
Just trying to figure out the tradeoff between being able to fix it (or buy spare parts) if it breaks, or if I want to put my money straight into the x250 that'll be less likely to break and will have a better warranty covering it in case it does.
Looking for notebook for Dev work.
4c i7 (lot's of work on virtual machine), 16GB od ram,
Great Linux support (Debian)
As small as possible (in work connected to 2 monitors, on the way I need something small)
Any thoughts? Will be grateful.
I have a small TV that I want to use as a second monitor for my ThinkPad T420. The TV has connections for HDMI and VGA. I only have a HDMI cable at the moment.
What should I do: buy a DisplayPort to HDMI adapter, buy a DisplayPort to HDMI cable, or buy a VGA cable? Or something else I'm not thinking about?
What's a good model to work with AutoCAD, and some 3d stuff? I had to use a x200 during the past months and although it worked better than I expected, I really need a better computer for that kind of work
bad ram? no ram? Idk, if it wasn't marked "for parts/not working" then just open an ebay dispute and let the seller sort it out.
If it has a dead battery you'll need to plug it in to wall power. again if the seller didn't note this then fuck em
This is probably a stupid question, but a friend asked and I don't know the answer. Would an X220 Tablet skin fit fine on an X230 Tablet?
Is there a guide or tutorial about protecting against/detecting malware on a used thinkpad (or any used computer)? What is stopping some malware bro from installing a bunch of keyloggers and backdoor shit on a machine before selling it to you on ebay? How can you protect yourself from this? What's a good way to test that your machine to make sure it's clean?
How does that work if you want to do a dual boot with windows? Can you get a fresh legit copy of like windows 7 from microsoft for free? Is that what the COA stickers are all about?
>"Ultrathin and Ultralight Design; Long Battery Life"
>not "Utilitarian and Utilitarian Design; Long Battery Life"
What went wrong?
Oh boy, do I regret picking the T430 with Nvidia graphics.
So I've using my T430 for a few weeks now with an external monitor connected through VGA, while waiting for a miniDisplayport->HDMI cable to arrive.
Today it arrived and after installing it I figured out that the miniDisplayport is hardwired to the Nvidia chip and so I can't connect my external monitor to it unless i enable the nvidia gpu.
That leaves me with two options:
1) Use "integrated only" option from BIOS and use the VGA port which produces a lot of noise and sub-par quality image. That way I'll be a bit more battery efficient when going mobile.
2) Use "optimus" and go through the hassle of configuring bumblebee which will still affect my battery life and temperatures to the worse.
Any advice/other options for me /g/ ?
Would it be possible to have it connected using both VGA and DP at the same time on the same monitor, but turn on and off the dGPU and switch the monitor input from VGA and DP when you need to?
I'm not sure if i understand your phrasing correctly, but I don't think that's a solution.
Well it definitely is a last resort option, but I 'd like to exhaust every other option I might have first.
The market changed, people in general (US, EU, China) want lighter laptops rather than durability.
I wish there was a 'hardened' version of a T series, similar to the XFR Latitudes.
Just got a W520 for $350 and a X220T for $95
>came with the quadro 2000m, i7 whatever, 4GB, 500GB HDD, but 900p display
finally I can fuck with a W series for this week.
>X220T with 320GB HDD but with funky keyboard
Needed a portable daily to take place of the X1C3
Might keep it but probably will not.
you got cucked for a 12$ battery
they are all the same, really
there is no difference between that and the 12$ 9cell 7800mah, asside from the blue color
really dude, get real
even if you do manage to open one, all they have to do is print the word samsung on the cell somewhere to fool your ass. there is no way you can actually know without at least having a similar genuine samsung cell for reference.
god damn you are so stupid.
you could have gotten 3x of the same exact battery for the price you payed for one
My X1C2 had a LED keyboard and would glow/flash because of a RAM error.
Top kek anon
Each one varies, imo they are super expensive new.
Played with some 11/12" IdeaPad with a haswell i5.
Wasn't a bad machine, super light, SSD, IPS 720p screen, dolby tinny speakers, what more could you ask?
I think it was an 11S Yoga, sold it to some guy for $250 when he bought a desktop.
They went for ~$300 on eBay at the time, like late summer/early fall 2015.
Would rather have a T430 or Dell E6330.
You could put a quadcore i7 onto a T430 or T420 but you'll be limited by its cooling abilities, no 's' model because they come with a dualcore i7 soldiered, no way out of that, same with X series.
W550s is the next best 'slim' laptop, I don't know of other laptops which support a quadcore and has cooling for it.
Craigslist in San Diego.
Had to drive a quite a way for it, but went to Fry's to buy bullshit screwdriver set.
Twas a good deal, didn't post a picture so yeah... havent found out if BIOS is locked but the battery is on its last legs, like 3 hours of life.
I just got a W530 for 800E, i7-3740qm, fullhd, New battery, unused condition, 180gb SSD
I think it is one of the first Leasing devices finishing their company lifetime. I am really happy with it. Furthermore I really like the New keyboard, only Miss the page back button.
Did I do good enough? My first thinkpad I did not buy it yet but got for $250
Lenovo T420 - Core i5 2.5GHZ/4GB/320GB/Nvidia/1600x900/Webcam/Win 7/Excellent!
refurb with everything. goodfeedback etc
Do not purchase a max spec x250. 16GB dimms are still expensive as hell, a dual core i7 provides little advantage over a dual core i5, and 1080p at 12.5" will require scaling.
Go pick up an IPS x230.
holy fuck, i updated my system yesterday and i have noticed that out of the blue TP-SMAPI is now supporting my X220t, i have accelerometer data and HDAPS support.
NOW I CAN SIT AND CODE MY AUTOROTATION BY HDAPS AGAIN.
ignore the tasteless desktop. i havent riced it
I work for p&g. They re upgrading our HP laptops to Thinkpads for most groups. I am a analyst so i got a dell M4800 mws.
I love how light the thinkpads are. But the keyboard layout is meh. And we have had the wifi crap out on 2 in a month.
W series have the best GPUs, you'll have the best luck with those. T series might be sufficient depending on your tastes. Everybody seems to have a different definition of what "moderate" or "light" gaming means. List some games and I can give you more specific advice.
i made this a while ago on my old X60t.
a week ago i was a bit disappointed that the kikes at lenovo fucked with the SMAPI implementation so tp_smapi (the software that interfaces with SMAPI and linux) have partial support on linux on the X220t
KIst purchased a T420 with NVIDIA 1 GB gpu and i hope that handles diablo 3 well.not a huge gamer here but i play that and enjoy games like it.but i believe I will have no rpboelms considering the specs i have on my other shit top
I'm not sure which to try and go for here. I've been looking at several different models that I could go for. It's a pain to look through all these on eBay, but I've gone down to these so far.
W520 with i7 2.20, 500gb hdd, 8gb of ram; for 464
W510 with i7 1.73, 320gb hdd, 8gb of ram; for 229
w510 with i7 1.6, hybrid 500/8gb hdd, 8gb of ram; for 235
x220 Tablet with i5 2.50, 1tb, 10gb of ram; for 395
x230 Tablet i7 2.9, 500gb, 4gb of ram; for 385
Wasn't really looking to spend more than $400, but the two that go above that range don't look too bad.
just tested my screen rotate button (on gnome) and it works now! pretty sure I tested it a few months back and it did nothing, the touch/wacom input also rotated and just werked... what a time to be alive...
Can't speak for the tablet series, but I've got a regular X220 with an IPS screen and I love the thing to death.
I desperately wish lenovo would release an updated model with more modern hardware, but still keep the same keyboard and other aesthetics. The keyboard is just so damn satisfying to type on.
Right now I have a Clevo W370ST breathing its last breaths (broken hinges, overheats, power supply is pic related, you don't even want to see the power jack).
I need to replace this, and I think the best solution is to have a proper dedicated desktop for gaming/etc and a shittier laptop for work/movies in bed with the gf/dwarf fortress/excel/learning programming/roguelikes.
Are there any thinkpads out there that aren't too utilitarian-looking, are 15'' or so with 1920x1080 screens, are durable and can run excel/play movies? I looked through the wiki and it sounds like a "new" one would fit the bill, but I'm worried about the build being too low quality.
Thinking of getting a thinkpad. Want it to have a decent screen resolution and be able to run simple games, excel, and movies. Want it to not look too utilitarian. Worried about low build quality in models that fit my wants.
Might try to find one of those myself. I don't know what to do with myself. I need something under $400. Finding used laptops is annoying though. Tempted to just look at new ones, but I know the $400 ones will have underpowered cpus.
Typing on my T420 is a dream and I'm looking for a similar keyboard for my desktop.
I found this but it's too damn expensive. Anyone know of something else?
can't install linux mint from iso? I press f12 and select my disk drive, it goes black for a second and then goes back to selection.Is this some UEFI trickery? I don't have any flash drives on me , my current one is dieded.
Hello /g/ hows the x120e im not a gentoomen I just came here because ive heard wonders about the thinkpad line and i need a cheap laptop to carry to school for basic office document editing and surfing
You'd probably be much better off with an x2**. AMD processors in mobile devices is just asking for trouble. My X100e reaches 80C with relatively newly replaced thermal paste while just browsing the web. Also with X2**, you get better build quality, as the case of the X120e is plastic instead, among many other things.
Hey guys, just got an X220, and it's 95% perfect.
The only problem is, there is high pitched whine coming from it from somewhere on the underside. I don't know it's from the CPU area or if it's the hard drive. It fluctuates in frequency and I can hear the same noise in headphones through the audio jack, which leads me to believe it's coil whine of some sort. Is this a common problem? Can it be fixed?
I know for a fact that it's not fan whine, because I reduced the fan to zero and could still hear it.
It was a good buy. Better than any laptop I've ever had. I can't even hear the noise without headphones unless I'm in a perfectly quiet room.
>imminent catastrophic failure
it has to do with a power related setting in the BIOS. something to do with CPU throttling. set it from automatic to "max speed," or whatever it's called
you should be able to find it easily enough
I use a Wacom tablet daily (CTL-480). I'm waiting for my X220t to ship, should be here within a few days. I'll give a comparison to what both feel like once I've got my hands on it.
Well I can get two other w510s with i7s. One with half the cost, the other almost the same. So the later is out.
Then there is the x230, which has a similar price. Half the storage and ram, but with a docking station. Can't say that's a good trade off.
Kind of going for either the w510 with the hybrid drive for 235, or the x220 for 395. Quite a big difference. Just not sure how often I would use the touchscreen, or if I need it.
Appreciate your input.
Problem is I need a new laptop by Friday for class. Oh, and I'm sure all these auctions end by tomorrow anyways. Still interested to here the comparison.
Not like I ever go to the edges too much anyways. But you make it sound just as good, if not better. Does the whole computer work well with image editing software?
It's still a bit of a bother because the location varies depending on height, so a lot of the time I'll drag a window when I meant to click the title bar or I'll drag one of Photoshop's tools to the side when I meant to open it instead. A little annoying, but I think it's worth it.
I've run both Photoshop and Manga Studio on it and they both run great. I've even run Manga Studio AND streaming software on it to stream the art I was working on, and aside from becoming hot on my lap, it worked just fine.
Well I'm going into programming through school soon. Drawing is something I do on the side when I can. I'd like to be able to practice more as I go, especially between breaks at work or school. Is this still something I should go for? Or go with one of the other thinkpad series?
Go for it. If you're getting a Thinkpad anyway and want something you can draw on, the tablet series are pretty sweet.
Personally, I'm glad I can now draw all the furry porn I want.
It says Core 2 Duo on the description but has a Centrino sticker.
The only thing making me hesitant is the price really. I've seen Ts and Ws for half the price, but more power, more resolution, dedicated gpu, and such. Of course they don't offer tech like a touchscreen and so on. If only I could find a cheaper one.
Probably, also the guy has a lot of them on sale so it may be just a generic picture, which isn't something I like but he has a 100% positive rating on eBay and the lowest prices I could find.
That's the tradeoff, though honestly the dedicated GPU hasn't made a huge difference to me using my T420.
If you want to use the touchscreen, then the extra price for the tablet model makes sense. I mean, I literally bought mine just for the tablet, as I already had a T420, and I think it was pretty much worth it. The only downsides are a slightly odd form factor and the rubber nubs for the screen to lock into being a bit fragile. (The one I bought was listed as having minor damage on Ebay because it was missing one.) It's been hugely handy in doing digital art stuff, so I'd say if you make use of it, go ahead.
You can do what I did and get a laptop swivel arm mount that attaches to the side of your desk.
Any of you guys have had previous experience with the Zenbook, specifically the UX305? Planning to get a relatively lightweight laptop for work but I have read that the previous models had a lot of hinge issues, can't find anything about that for the 305 though.
>I wish there was a 'hardened' version of a T series, similar to the XFR Latitudes.
Not going to happen, it's a niche market.
Also government happens to be a huge part of that niche market and no one is going to touch Chinese hardware.
>I'm fine with using XP but I'm considering doing a clean install of W7 just to avoid being spied by the seller.
Just keep XP, if you want too. Since it is not going to be connected to the internet anyways, there is no chance of the seller spying on you, so what's the problem? (Besides the keyloggers logfile filling your hdd, while waiting for an internet connection that will never happen).
I put my current laptop for sale and was thinking buying an used thinkpad carbon x1. Yay or nay? That or used thinkpad yoga.
Thing is that I'd really like an ethernet port, but there's not one to be found on either. I guess I'd manage with an adapter, but it's a shitty replacement, carrying an adapter always with me. Maybe I should try to find x200/210/220/230/240/250 used and get that instead? I do want at least 1080p screen, though.
I want to run linux only. Dunno how the touchscreen is supported?
>he guys, can i game on my 8 year old thinkpad??? thinking of running the newest game on high settings
>did i do good? don't like losing shekels when buying used, and also don't like researching myself!!
>how well do thinkpads run windows 3.1??? linux, what is that?
rip in piece /tpg/
After being screwed by buying a battery with already 600 cycles, I'm ready to put the price on a new Lenovo 9 cells battery.
First one is uncommon. Second one is fine, not everyone waits it out for the perfect deal or lives in the US etc. Last is uncommon too.
Stop scapegoating, /tpg/ just doesn't have any cool personalities like jordan. Get a trip and get some character if you want to remedy that.
it's getting way more common
no it isn't, it's simple to search previous ebay auctions and the like to see how much the are going for. besides at the end, it is your money, and you deemed it acceptable to pay what you paid.
again, more and more windowsposting in the thread.
What's going on with my screen?
WARNING MAY CAUSE EPILEPSY
Let's see your Thinkpads, guys.
x220 8GB i5
>what are you working on
Building an app for practice using a MEAN stack boilerplate
>any planned upgrades/modifications
I'd like to swap the screen for an IPS, then swap the HDD for an SSD
Either your monitor has a loose connection to the mobo, or you have a failing graphics chip.
Could just be a bad capacitor from the looks, though it seems rather random. To narrow it down, does this issue persist the same no matter what position the screen is in? Or does it work OK in some positions, worse in others?
>t420 i7 8gb
>>what are you working on
>shitposting and watching videos in bed
>>any planned upgrades/modifications
>msata ssd, max ram, usb3 expresscard
Need buying advice. Thinking about buying HP Elitebook 8460p with i7 2620m 4g ram. The price is 200£ . What do you think guys?
X220 8GB i5
I bought an IPS screen in the end and it is extremely worth it.
Also consider getting an mSATA to put inside the thinkpad and keep the HDD. Gives you loads of space but still works fast.
T520, 6GB RAM, i5 2430M
>what are you working on
At the time of taking this picture, learning how to scrape websites and fool around with large databases with Python and setting up an Apache webserver on my VPS on the side.
>any planned upgrades/modifications
Probably gonna slap an SSD in there at some point, as well as replacing the DVD drive with an HDD caddy when I do.
Just got a x61.
Installed new wlan card, 240GB SSD, Middleton BIOS and Trisquel. So far so good.
Now to figure out how to customise Trisquel and what themes are best after coming from Xubuntu.
I won mine on eBay, yeah.
The only difference between the two is the CPU generation. Except that, they're the same design, same I/O.
I'd honestly check on eBay. A lot of the time, they're listed as used but are almost new. Mine had "several scratches" on the lid but I can't see them
They will perform about the same in all honesty, although it depends on what you will be doing.
If you really need the power, I'd suggest getting the i5 model and swapping out the CPU for an i7-QM part
>x220 4GB i5
>>what are you working on
>shitposting , irc & music
>>any planned upgrades/modifications
>9cell, ips, ssd & 8gb
Damn best I can find on eBay is i5 3340 4gb ram for 150£. The cases are worn out or damaged though. On the other hand elitebook I originally posted comes as new and has a radeon 6470M on board.
Can't decide. Wait for something better to pop on eBay or go with that i7 from Amazon
x220 i7 2640m 8gb ram 256gb ssd IPS screen
Maybe I'll swap the WWAN card with a msata ssd in the future so that I'd have 2 different OS' on two different drives.
Where do you suggest I buy an IPS? I look at eBay and all the reviews still make me nervous. Which ones did ya'll buy?
Thoughts on upgrading 2710p?
I upped the RAM and bought a ZIF SSD but couldn't format it. Odd, replacing.
Am I better off with 2760p? Are they all bad?
>tfw I flashed my T420's BIOS with libreboot, it unlocked every restricted hardware
>tfw I attached i7 3720qm (yep 3. generation is compatible with 2. with libreboot)
>tfw I did the FHD IPS screen modding
>tfw I got atheros wifi and installed hackintosh
>mfw I literally had something better than macbook for around $250 in total.
For some reason enabling VT-x and VT-d causes my clit mouse and TouchPad to not respond on my T450. After disabling them a couple of reboots it starts working again. Any idea why this is? Do I need to send it back for repair?
Best price I could find. The photo is a generic one since the guy has a lot of the aparently, should I go with it anyway?
I don't mind buying used stuff but having no warranty bothers me, what's your experience with Thinkpads breaking after purchasing them?
Yeah you can. Just make sure its been done many times before on Y laptop otherwise it could be a brick. X220/200 have had libreboot on it many times without errors so you can easily do it yourseld
Actually you have no chance to brick the laptop because you have to do the flashing externally, which means even though something goes wrong, you can re flash as many as possible physically.
How's the screens on the new-ish thinkpads? (*40/*50)
I am interested in the T44/50s, but they are still kinda expensive, and I certainly wouldn't want to shell out that kind of money for a screen as shitty as the one on my x200.
>a) is "fullHD" enough for reading lots of text and stuff on 14"?
>b) are the IPS displays actually good?
Hey guys, how much strain is it for an integrated gpu (intel 965) to run multiple monitors and what would be the upper limit?
Back to Elitebook buying question. Which one would you go for and why?
Elitebook 8470p 195£
Intel Core i5-3380M 2.9GHz
Intel HD Graphics 4000
14" LED HD anti-glare 1366 x 768
Elitebook 8460p 205£
Intel Core i7-2620M 2.7GHz
AMD Radeon HD 6470M
14" LED HD anti-glare 1366 x 768
>tfw just lost a csgo match because a teammate's wireless mouse ran out of batteries
dang... shoot him in the kneecap for me, will ya.
I'm a poorfag and I'm thinking of getting a T60/T61 or maybe if I'm lucky enough with the prices - a T400/T410. And after that, upgrade with a docking station and SSD/RAM/new battery.
I need it for writing and uni (mostly office work). No video games definitely (except maybe RTCWolfenstein/Diablo/HoMM3).
just gave my 2630 another go and got it sorted, with no absurdly high voltages.
>deletes his post out of embarrassment
>AMD A10 2.5ghz quad
>AMD 8650G radeon built-in, does vidya decently
>Win 7 Enterprise
>Win98 SE DOS box
>Yes the battery works
>mfw assraped friends in DOOM over serial cable
Gave my friend a G41, used to have a decent collection now I'm just down to these two bad boys
>looks like a Thinkpad
>runs like a Thinkpad
>quacks like a Thinkpad
>says "ThinkPad" on it
It's a ThinkPad.
I'm seeing a seller on eBay trying to sell a x220 tablet for about $400. While pricey, they upgraded the storage to 1tb, and memory to 10gb. I'm wondering if you can even technically have 10gb of ram in the case. There's only two slots in most laptops, so that would have to be something like one 8 stick and one 2 stick, right?
>It's a ThinkPad.
Yeah, and this is a phone.
Is it possible to clean such a mess? Not even sure if I'd still want to buy it.
it's not worth it as it comes with 2gb of ram and the screen is probably 1280x800 and that's pretty shite, but if you were in england i'd sell you my T400 for £50
try and see if there's a cheaper one, as you can always upgrade RAM and a SSD later on just try and find one with a i5-2540m or higher for a reasonable price.
I sure wish finding them was easier. Find a slight cheaper one at $330, but it's 6gb of RAM and 320gb of HDD. For some reason the user installed Windows 10 on it too.
The bid is at $250, buying it out right is $330.
I have a T420 with Win10 on it. I used to run linux distros, but I figured I'd try 10 for a while. The only issue is that the touchpad suddenly will stop working for brief periods of time (a few seconds). The nub is always fine though
Did it come with everything? If so, nice job dude. I got mine for $150, but it was brand new and came with all the shit it needed.
Speaking of which, just bought a "new" battery for it, 8GB's of ram, and a new SSD. Should be fun to test out.
It came with everything. the battery is supposed to last like 2 hours. It even comes with Win7 pro but I don't really give a fuck about that. I'm thinking it might be 2g2bt (too good to be true)
how shitty would it be to savemoney an x200/201 by getting it with a celderon 1.07 ghz processor .