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Textbooks, references, fiction, whatever you consider a top-notch quality read for /g/ents.
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Duh. Also get the "C Answer Book" which makes up for one of K&R's very few flaws (lack of excercise solutions).
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>>52447923
The whole point of C having exercises is so you can learn how to do them yourself.
C Answer Book was not written by Kernighan and was simply a shitty cashgrab that defeats the point of the original book.
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>>52448435
Well ok if you think so. How about suggesting some book you believe to be a polar opposite of a shitty cashgrab instead?
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a definite good read if you're into unix
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/dpt/'s favorite
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I really enjoyed this book and it in a lot of ways has really shaped my shell programming. To me it does a great job of explaining concepts of in the shell scripting WITH examples for each concept without being a "cookbook"

Its well written and the author seems to have a clear grasp on what he writes.
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>>52448591
any idiot who's fixated on their sexuality more than computation is doomed to be mediocre at best
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>>52448601
That´s exactly why he posted it.
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>>52448601
>implying sex and computation don't go hand in hand
fact: you can't program for shit unless you have a Y chromosome
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>>52448601
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>>52447674
anything worth reading about Neural Networks? that shit fascinates me for reasons..
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>>52448601
>implying Turing didn't wish to be the little girl
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>>52448781
>this is true
>the Y chromosome contains the necessities for forcing something to preform programmed actions for you
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>>52451015
Holy Cow, I actually picked this up super cheap at a library second hand sale. I guess I should give it another glance.
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>>52448435
There's nothing wrong with having solutions to exercises so long as you're not using them to cheat but using them as an aide or checker.
you can probably find all the solutions on stack overflow anyway but it's handy having solutions by your side in a convenient little book.
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>>52451909
Tanenbaum's books are generally very highly regarded. If you got the the 3rd edition very cheap you're lucky, they usualy go for quite some buck even used (although it's a bit old now, there's a newer edition that came out recently).
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>>52452952
>philosophers problem on the cover
It's like they wanted people to stay away from the book.
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so if I have absolutely zero experience in any type of programming, but am becoming interested, which book should i pick up?
kind of a nice intro to how programs actually work and some very basic information
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>>52453013
edgelord
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>>52453442
Try >>52448500 for a start, it will give you an excellent overview of what's going on under the hood. It won't teach you the specifics of any language, but having read it even assembly should be much less daunting.
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>>52452984
Well, dunno, that's the cover they came up for the latest edition, feel free to look up earlier covers of the book, perhaps you'll like them better. I think it's still much better (and true to the general style of Tanenbaum book covers) that the comparatively rather uninspired cover of the latest edition of "Computer Networks" (pic related).
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>>52453592
>covers) that the
>thaT
*thaN
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>>52453592
It was just a joke about a painful study subject, mate.
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>>52453592
>Circulation of this edition outside the Indian subcontinent is UNAUTHORIZED

DESIGNATED edition
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>>52453534
that sounds pretty good, i'll do that
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>>52453592
Why is circulating it outside of India prohibited?
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>>52453482
>worshipping dead kike on a stick
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>>52454096
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http://web.mit.edu/simsong/www/ugh.pdf
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Idk if this is a request thread but, can anyone help me find a PDF of this?
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>>52452663
The only true intro book
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>>52453916
Trash, Applied Cryptography 2E nigger
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I can only read 4 of these books.

Which will it be?
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>Cryptography Engineering - Design Principles and Practical Applications

Any opinions on this?
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>>52453908
The "designated eastern economy editions" of books (K&R2 has one too, pic related, so have many other CS-related textbooks) are poorer quality but also much cheaper even if you ship them from where they are intended to be sold. The publishers obviously want westerners to buy the significantly more expensive standard editions.
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>>52456240
Can you get them somehow in a decent country?
Printing shit on a book's cover doesn't seem like something actual legally binding.
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>>52456352
don't buy international editions unless they're marked sealed and you don't intend to keep the book
poo in loos do not wash their hands
i once received an international edition K&R from 1990 and it aged horribly
i also cleaned the cover with alcohol and the residue was dark brown
it also had "RAJESH V." written on the inside.
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>>52455553
>Applied Cryptography 2E
Absolute shit, since there's no proper torrent of the book (except one filled with ads and where the images don't work, rendering it useless).
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>>52452952
For someone just beginning to learn this in university, would you say >>52451015 is still relevant?
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>>52457035
Sure. Networking is not a field that changes too rapidly. Certain things mentioned in the 2003 edition (like Token Ring for example) may have fallen into obscolescence in the meantime, but at least 90% is still much relevant.
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Classic /g/ fiction welcome too.
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>>52457212
>cryptonomicon
careful not to cut yourself on dem edges
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>>52457233
So you say it's overrated? How much?
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>>52456240
What do you mean poorer quality? Is the content different, or is it just, say, printed on bad quality paper?

>>52456352
Just download the book senpai.

>>52456424
kek
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If you would choose only 4 must-read books, which would it be?
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>>52457289

The new C bible.
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>>52457294
Content is the same, but paper/printing/binding etc. quality is lower. For instance the EEE edition of K&R2 has thin, half-translucent paper which makes reading harder, and the ink has a peculiar odor to it (seems to go away with time somewhat though).
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It's a really fun read for the uninitiated about the early history of computing that talks mainly about operating systems, written by one of my favorite fictionauthors.
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>>52456513
>there's no proper torrent of the book
Really?

I'm a little surprised such an important book wouldn't have a torrent.
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>>52457177

my sister got me this for christmas :']
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>>52457512
Nice. What format are the books files in? Do the floppy contents work a modern system (provided you have a floppy drive to read it)? Can you post a picture of the cover?
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Whats a good book to start with networking 101?
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>>52457591

just left home, I might have a photo of my phone. I had to emulate System 7 to get it to work, I will show you that!
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>>52457591

I did have a picture of it, here you are
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>>52457889
If you're more IT-oriented, CCNA books by either Todd Lammle or Wendel Odom should be good. If you're more CS-oriented, try Tanenbaum's book (>>52451015 or >>52453592).
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>>52457957
>>52458008
Is this a Mac-only version, or did you emulate an older Mac because you generally use a Mac?
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>>52458263

it appears that they were available for both, I think that the HyperCard Reader software may have been cross platform at the time.. I wouldn't know for sure since I was 3 when it came out!

here is some other information I found about the series:
http://alfabravo.com/2011/08/early-ebooks-and-why-they-failed/

funny story, someone actually brought me a Macintosh Classic II that they wanted to be virtualized in early January, so I got to do the research on this emulator as part of that project
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>>52458082
thanks, i'm looking for the CCNA oriented ones :))
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>>52455553
>>52456513
>>52457414
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=Schneier+Applied+Cryptography&open=0&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def
This chm was pretty nice:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=f6efc890007ef033c385bb5edc2a1096
Yeah, it's not a pdf, but who cares? xchm on linux, windows should have native support.
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>>52454096
Had this book assigned in a class at university. Would not recommend. Other books covered the same content in far better ways
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>>52458610
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=396E036D3913F4A3C043CCDAE944FDF2
this pdf is (relatively) nice too
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A beginning.
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>>52458803
The chm one had pretty similar quality. What's up with this shit?
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>>52458399
http://www.worldcat.org/title/neuromancer-count-zero-mona-lisa-overdrive/oclc/29371389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XrIqLdx3EU

Could you perhaps dd the floppy to a file and upload the image somewhere? It's an interesting piece of history for both literature and technology (even if nowadays you have to jump trough hoops to make actual use of it) and surely deserves to be preserved.
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>>52458948
Oh god I didn't notice that.
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Read this if you want to become a Linux wizard.
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>>52458948
Given the book's subject, maybe it's a form of encryption? Lel.
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>>52459086
>Learn cryptography
>Have to decrypt book first
Makes sense.
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>>52458948
The pictures seem to be downgraded probably for better size. Uploader didn't notice I guess.
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>>52458399
You seriously ought to share the floppy image, brother.For the future generations.
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What should I read if I already know how to programming?
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Legendary PC hardware reference.
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>>52459199
From what I can tell, all downloads of this book has this problem. A real shame since that makes it unusable.
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>>52448500
Following the book gets a bit tougher once you get to flip-flops. The way they work seems simple yet quite convoluted in its effects, how to better grasp them intuitively?
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It's actually a /g/+/v/ and surprisingly fun to read.
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>>52458964
Another video from that guy showing the screen closely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU8K2DuTfeE

>>52459443
Yea, that'd be gread if he did. I tried searching a bit but couldn't seem to stumble upon a copy of it anywhere.

(It might be a good idea to upload it to Winworldpc, they specialize in preserving high quality copies of old operating systems and application software.)
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>>52459750
>/v/
More /vr/ than /v/, I think. Otherwise you're right, that books belongs here too by all means.
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>>52459579
Not him, but maybe learn a bit about electronics in general. How analog parts make up a basic digital gate? etc.
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>>52459443

Went to dinner, didn't want to derail the thread either. All of the textbooks I read in school didn't impress me and I do most of my learning by searching Google as I work on a project.

Maybe I'll work on collecting a set of them! I did copy it, where is best to upload things like this these days? I haven't used anything since PutFile ..
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>>52459130
All these books (the for dummies line) are fucking worthless. They don't contain any worthy information. They just gloss over the VERY basics of subject matter.

I have a few of them:
Hacking
Unix
Linux

I am glad someone found them and gave them to me. I would have been pissed if I bought them, thinking they were worthwhile.
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>>52460605
>They just gloss over the VERY basics of subject matter
I think that's the pint of them..
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>>52460729
Exactly. Which would make it NOT a top-tier /g/ book. Not even anywhere in contention.
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>>52460760
I dunno, have you been to /g/? It seems like half the forum is composed of people who who don't really know much about technology other than consumer technology
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>>52458796
Which ones would you suggest? How would pic related compare (subject matter seems similar)?
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>>52459799

the registration link for Winworldpc is not working for me (tried different browsers and disabling add-ons)

the site I got most of my software in the emulator is called macintoshgarden.org but it looks like the library at winworldpc is great too, thanks for that !
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>>52460801
kek

Yes I guess that is true. Can't dispute that.

>have you been to /g/?
Yes, been here longer than I care to admit. Been around long enough to see some of the changes occur.

Here is the only picture I have at the moment. These are some good books for people who want a rounded understanding. As well as a link.

The link is pretty much a free bachelors degree in CompSci

>>>http://blog.agupieware.com/2014/06/online-learning-intensive-bachelors.html?m=1
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>>52458964
>even if nowadays you have to jump trough hoops to make actual use of it
>gotta hack the Gibson to read the Gibson
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>>52460932

I thought the same thing about THE GIBSON while working on it

I actually really like System 7 now, although Photoshop 2.5 doesn't have layers
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Since a lot of people seem to be weebs on this site, and if those people want a good introduction to certain things, the manga guide books are actually a pretty decent alternative to the For Dummies books.
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Still need to look at the 3rd edition
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>>52460839
There seem to have been some changes recently (such as the forum having moved elsewhere etc.) and some stuff isn't working properly right now.

If all else fails, you could upload the floppy image to Mega or somesuch (dunno what other file share services are viable these days).
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>>52460910
lol @ boooks n pic
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>>52462635
Better getting those books than any of the "for dummies" books. Although, that link is pretty decent.
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>>52462474

https://mega.nz/#!nAZl2CKT

there you are, anons! I did some looking for other books in the set, there's only 1 on eBay right now
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>>52463644

guess it has a key..

https://mega.nz/#!nAZl2CKT!To2FByWgiw9ptnjjXoxfuWDOifRl2tweDPqqVeIeWOY
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>>52463659

also, I'm off for the night but this was the best page for getting a System 7 emulator to work:

http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/basilisk_ii_setup
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>>52463659
Thanks a lot.

I see though that you seem to have zipped the main file that was on the floppy - if you wanted to upload it to Winworld in the future, you'd need an exact image of the whole floppy (you can use dd in Linux of OSX do create an image). Exact images of source media are much preferred for preservation rather than "rips" which contain extracted files.
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>>52463898
>Linux of OSX
>of
*or
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Return of the Mac
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Move over white cis males it's our turn now!!
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Anybody got the pdf of the new 9th edition of Comptia A+?

Got a couple buddies who want into IT and the4th edition I got mine with is a fucking grind I wouldn't subject anyone to.

Videos could work too.
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>>52464369
Where did it say "cuckbook thread"? Cause I saw it nowhere.
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>>52455699
it's the updated version of this >>52455553
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What is the definitive book on x86 assembly?
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>>52453305
I remember checking this book out in some random community college library and got a rough idea about Unix like shit and looking under the hood
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>>52451512
>Its also similar to binary systems(x/y as 0/1 or False/True)
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>>52466255
>>52448545

Good calls. Others:
International UNIX Environments
Computer Security Standards DOD std.
Dragon Book Compiler Design
NSA Trusted Networks (ugly red book)
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the best, no doubt
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>>52467715
Hell yeah RTFM my nigga
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>>52467715
>>>/hm/
man on man is disgusting!
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>tfw i want to learn but no dough for books...
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>>52460590
Zippyshare or anonfiles would work. Not long term but good until the thread lasts. You could also make a torrent, but that's a little more hassle.
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>>52467715
Don't some variants of man allow you to export to PostScript or something?

You might literally be able to turn it into a book.
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>>52469364
manpages are created from roff files, so you could just create postscript files out of them.
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>>52464369
Get off that white-men-created technology right now pls.
>You'll have to create you're own, if you want to play this game ehh.

books?
>out
internet?
>out
computers, microprocessors, browsers
>ad infinitum
>out
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>>52469255
He did upload it to Mega. >>52463659

(It's not a 1:1 floppy image though, rather he just zipped the main file that's on the floppy.)
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>>52453592
mmm look at that sexy playstation font
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>>52457241
paul graham used to be interesting but now he is just some VC blinded old man who thinks he is some kind of tech company god.
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>>52471161
Yeah I noticed that. I just saw that there were no replies to his post so I assumed he didn't get his answer and replied, before reading the rest of the thread.
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>>52469364
Would you buy "Manpages - Dead Tree Edition"? Lol.

(Yes, the question mark is _outside_ the quotation marks, because that's what logic dictates, logic which seems unknown to Murrikan citizens.)
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>>52471243
I wouldn't mind printing out all the OpenBSD system man pages.

But I'm not made of money, so yeah.
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Can /g/ recommend any essays to read?
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>>52473405
read these in the meantime:
https://reep.io/d/wbchswzb1c
https://reep.io/d/wbchsw8b19
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>>52473471
Don't ever fucking reply to me again you fucking animetard
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>>52473559
you seem buttfrustrated, didn't you get past the first page?
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>>52468781

The most painful and most useful CS class I ever took
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>>52473471

>site needs WebRTC to work
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>>52451015
found a good PDF of this via Google

>>52452952
this was like 8 dollars on eBay

>>52457241
got this one for 13 dollars, hopefully it's good

>>52457266
a coworker let me borrow this one, wouldn't mind owning it though

>>52459750
>>52457380
>>52461557
interested in the above titles

>>52466241
I have this one but it's in my backlog


>>52469255
I might try to collect them, then make a torrent.. my initial search was Not Good so I'll just have to keep a lookout for them

>>52471161
I will take an image of the floppy in the future, the USB drive is at work so what I uploaded is all I got for now (I'm new to this whole vintage software thing, thanks for bearing with me)

and pic is my contribution to the thread, even though it's only tangentially related..
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>>52474297
here's the original link if you are scared if reep.
/f/src/1451364635746.pdf
/f/src/1451360913890.pdf
pic related.
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>>52474548

Thanks senpai
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>>52457177
>>52457212

Both supreme choices and I will contribute with non-fiction but still a novel.
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>>52459750

This book is extremely good. I have read it more then once. Very, very good.

I am amazed it isn't a movie yet really.
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>>52457380

Dang I actually had not heard of this and Stephenson is one of my favorites too.
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>>52474706
If it was a good book, you wouldn't want a movie to ruin it
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>>52457376
That must be ridiculously cheap then, why would a westerner buy that piece of shit? Also we already have global/international editions being sold in Europe, the paper still being thin as fuck but readable and it makes the book overall thinner, so that could be considered a plus.
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>>52474757
If id Software was still relevant and about to release something even remotely groundbreaking again, it might have made sense. Otherwise, I'm afraid the subject matter of making games in the 1990s wouldn't be resonant enough with normies nowadays (unlike movies on Facebook or Apple).
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>>52474706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dv6MEstMLw
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>>52474981
trust me, even if it was a topic normals could relate to, you would not want Hollywood to ruin something you actually enjoyed. They never fail at doing that
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>>52474931
>why would a westerner buy that piece of shit?
when you're buying textbooks for bullshit college prereq classes, it's great
they're cheap enough to throw away, in most cases, and cost less new than renting the book
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>>52466316
The guy who doesn't understand what a BIOS is. Great choice anon.
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Quick question. Should I get into engineering or should I keep self learning?
I'm already 22.
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>>52475738
Is this considered the definitve text on x86 assembly? If not, what else is?
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>>52475725
>doesn't understand what a BIOS is
Source?
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>>52475738

whatever makes you happy, youre still young.
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>>52476413
Its okay, but the book relies a lot on a library written by the author. I think that the student should be building their own library up as part of the course. When I took assembly we didn't have a real text, other than the intel programming guide. The teacher basically had us build a basic library for I/O, writing to the screen etc and then we had to use that library in other projects. I had already been doing x86 for years by this point though, so I cant speak to how good of a learning method that it.

Honestly, its really difficult to find a good assembly book. Where I work we use x86 more than most other languages, and I get this question a lot. Typically, I tell people to start with the nasm manual, the intel programmers guide and the internet. Hacking: The Art of Exploitation has a decent chapter or two on assembly as well, but its somewhat narrow. I do think that their explanation of the stack and other operating system facilities is very good though. I just kind of learned by using a debugger etc when I started patching out licensing routines etc.

Its kind of too bad there aren't better resources, but then again, I guess x86 isn't at the top of everybody's list of things to learn.
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Are those O'reilly books actually any good?
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>>52466051
? I've heard good things of Programming the Ground Up, but i never read too far into it.
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Can anyone recommend me a great resource for the Network+ exam? Gonna take it soon
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>>52478755
I found C in a nutshell to be >>52478755
quite good desu. Don't know about the rest.
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>>52480350
Lots of good O'Reilly books, some other examples:
>Linux in a nutshell
>Linux Pocket Guide
>C Pocket Reference
>Network Warrior

and others.
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>>52454096
Only good if you really, really love MIPS. (Understandable though since one of the authors designed MIPS)
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Is there a good book centered around serious web application development? I dont want something focusing on a specific language, since I probably already know all the most popular ones for web development.

Also I'll recommend this book, it's pretty good as a reference to general programming and available for free.
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>>52480491
I guess most of them are a pretty safe choice then? Been feeling like doing a bunch of reading lately.
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>>52460910
That's a pretty old CCNA book but it's still mostly relevant.
>>52462635
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>>52469077
that ball
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>>52460910
>>52460910
weak collection senpai

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The link is pretty much a free bachelors degree in CompSci

no it isn't.

just because you cant afford to go to college doesn't mean college education isn't worth it
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>>52451143
he didn't. he was a homosexual man, but that's beside the point because his devotion was to mathematics.
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>>52464091
mah nigga
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>>52480809
Check Amazon reviews of a book of interest. Pay attention to the critical ones.
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>>52481113
>implying that means anything
>implying Turning couldn't love math, cocks, and little dresses
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