/wt/ watch thread
This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
Mine has a slightly discolored day wheel too but only on some of the days, I guess it's pretty common.
Ordered fake quartz speedmaster fantasy-reference edition with probably a miyota OS20 for £46. Anyone thought of a good, cheeky way to hide the logo? Ideally I could use a ro instead of an omega and call it a romega moonmaster or something stupid but I don't have a good way to make the sticker.
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Buy a watch for the watch, not for the leather strap it comes on. You can buy whatever strap you like later. The only exception to that rule are metal bracelets which usually have to come with the watch. Mvmnt is so shit I wouldn't want to flush it down my toilet, get a Seiko or Orient or Casio or Citizen or something if you're looking for something cheap.
That's how I feel about getting a fake 14060 or 1675. I wish vintage Rolexes had reasonable prices, I'd love to buy one for maybe a couple thousand or something but they cost about as much as a brand new one if not more.
They're so cool and they look nice and they're so comfortable. What do you even call that style of bracelet and why did they only exist for such a short time? I guess they're probably more complicated to make than just an oyster or something.
Guy is selling a king quartz with pepsi shit on it for 80, would probably take less after going that far down. I swear to god this isn't me I just browse watchrecon
You can get homages of vintages Rollies for less than reps cost (unless you mean shit grade reps). The last mentioned are a but fun - comex 5513 for $80. Or turn an Invicta into a 6204.
Cheapest way is to get a shit grade rep and put a sterile dial but for ~150-200 you can get decent homages.
Then there's Mk II and others who do questionably high grade homages and som brand with A10 Soprod movements.
There's quite some to pick from really, look things up and you'll see.
Err, would you be willing to share a link for the white dialed LM Special? I would be very interested in that.
Where can I get a good GMT though? Everyone makes subs but GMT is less common. I have a Steinhart ocean one and it's very nice but it's too damn big so I've been sort of curious to find something better. Actually I've been looking for a good GMT watch period for a long time now even if it's not a GMT-Master homage but there aren't many options and most original non-ripoff designs are really ugly.
I guess a shit tier rep would be a better starting point for something very old, yes.
But they're about the same price and a DG28 isn't really comparable to a NH35 movement.
If all you want is the looks, buy a shit rep and tumble it in a toolbox for 10 minutes, a modded invicta might actually keep time though.
it was also really popular in Ireland
Yes, this was their submission for the 1969 contest.
I pretty strongly dislike both of those, get literally any other SAR* model rather than the 065 or get a Hamilton over literally an Tissot.
I just want a diver with sapphire glass and a 40mm case and either no date or date only complication
Day date always looks like ass to me.
Does anyone have a picture comparing a 40mm watch to a 42mm one? 40mm just seems so perfect for me and I am hesitant to go any bigger
I can't think of any watch pairs that come in 40 and 42mm but here's a 42mm SKX007 and 38mm SKX013.
I don't think 40-42 is ever a huge deal
Also worth noting that just the case diameter isn't everything, an SKX007 is 42mm across but the short lugs and the shape make it fit well even on wristlets while an Obris Morgan Memesplorer is 42mm across but with bigass long flat lugs that make it visually huge.
Thanks very much, I'll keep 42s in mind, there are plenty of options at that size in divers.
But I've just found a site where I can get a case, dial, and hands in a number of handsome diver styles with decent water resistance. Might make a project out of it.
Has anyone every used this site or had a problem with them?
Pay no mind to the shameless rolex homage case, they have others, this one was just the first I could find to take a miyota 9015 movement. ETA 2824s are just fairly expensive.
seriously if you have the movement, hands, crystal, case, dial and strap for a watch it takes like half an hour to assemble for a newbie - most of which is the hand setting. Not much of a project to me. Custom watches only get interesting when you modify, get your parts from many sources or make your own parts.
Well I'd rather make something out of a kit, then unmake it and replace what I see fit once I'm comfortable with how it goes together.
Where would I go about looking for a good case?
essentially the metal version of the F91w
also comes in pimp gold
Has anyone here ever fully restored watches before?
I'm looking into restoring older watches as a side job and need some kits for it
This would be for prepping the watch getting rid of grease dirt and all of the gunk
This is for buffing the watch band, case etc etc
and for those plated watches this here is a touch up kit
Anyone have a better home set up than this?
I guess aside from the relatively minor issue of sapphire (035) vs mineral glass (065) it's pretty much just aesthetics for me since they're pretty much the same watch with the same movement aside from the looks. The 035 is less ugly and less of a big flashy watch for flamboyant homosexuals.
Honestly I don't see the cocktail time working with regular casual or business/dressy clothes, it would have to be something dressy but also pretty loud since the watch itself is loud. Maybe it would go well with a powder blue tuxedo or something? And don't you fucking >>>/fa/ me, I'm right.
So you just want to refinish cases and bracelets without servicing the movements, or what? If you're going to ultrasound clean the watch that's going to require taking the movement out first. Normally at that point you would also disassemble the movement itself entirely and clean that also (pic related), but doing that means you're also going to need to fully relubricate the movement and reassemble it and adjust it and test it, so you're going to have to be pretty much a fully qualified watchmaker.
And if you plan on skipping that part then personally I think it would be pretty silly of me to send my watch off to you so that you can take out the movement, get it all dusty, clean the case, and slap the movement back in to give me a watch which is clean on the outside and shitted up on the inside.
These? The dark brown one was a 300 piece limited edition and the one with the Roman numerals is discontinued. Unless you mean the SDGM003 beloved by fat Canadians everywhere, that one is black and not really a Cocktail Time but it looks similar and is still available.
They put sapphire front crystals and hardlex display casebacks on all of the SAR* models. The 065 is the only exception with mineral glass because making a sapphire crystal that large and that domed would be fucking expensive and probably very prone to shattering.
In my opinion they should've just used acrylic instead of glass for it since it's supposed to resemble an old-school acrylic box crystal anyway and that would've been easy to polish, but I guess acrylic isn't cool anymore. That domed glass is going to be a scratch magnet and there's nothing you can do to fix it.
Oh I see, it didn't sound like that from the first post I guess. That pretty much seems like most of what you would need in that case, I'm not sure if those are the best tools though.
Especially the ultrasound cleaner seems kind of lightweight, I would look for one of the more industrial style ones with the stainless trays and stuff kind of like pic related. At least from my experience in a lab we had a serious industrial one that really vibrated the shit out of anything you put in it and then one of those cheap jewelry ones like you linked which was a toy in comparison and much less effective.
The polishing wheel seems like it would be fine I guess, I would think you'll want to add a really fine brush wheel too for redoing brushed bracelets. And then I don't really know about that set of polishing stuff, I wish watchmakeranon was still around because he would hopefully be able to explain how they used stuff like that and exactly what they used. I know that polishing cases is a pretty delicate thing that they practiced on a lot on throwaway cases first.
I don't know but a lot of videos on youtube and this dude http://www.thewatchguy.com/pages/refurbishing.html inspired me, I did service swiss watch movements and when it came to fixing other stuff I do have the tools for changing the glass / straps if need but then you're left with an ugly case. I mostly dealt with small time brands but get the occasional Rolex / Cartier watches that are beaten to shit but sadly I don't offer polishing services and I want to get the best tools to begin learning
I would have loved to have overhang lugs though, but i haven't bought it yet.
At least my mind is at ease.
That thing is still enroute from japan to him, but assuming i won't buy all 3 watches ill send you the eBay links as soon as they are up.
Vostok Amphibia, either date or no date versions exsist.
What about "quirky Dutch House/Techno producer"?
>Hurr durr I want to ruin vintage watches by polishing the shit out of them and possibly damaging the dial when I crudely disassemble them, but not actually clean or service the movement.
Fuck off and die you ignorant wanna be South Korean vintage watch ruiner on eBay.
Fuck off. Even if you service the movement polishing vintage watches is an abomination.
He did have like 3 LM specials for sale on eBay, problem is that they had those god awful square cases.
>Even if you service the movement polishing vintage watches is an abomination.
>says the guy that owns one shitty vintage watch or nothing at all
poor losers really are the worst things
Mighty fine watch you've got there.
guys I accidentally bid on a watch I didn't want on eBay but didn't, pay yet. they did instantly put it in my orders though, I'm a European citizen, does the cool down period still apply to me even though I bought it from Japan?
Got my Seiko SARB065 on the way, courtesy of Seiyajapan.
- reason I'm so white is, bike accident. I've got a cage on my leg to regrow the bone and also to keep everything in place as my right lat (back muscle) is now acting as my calf.
so don't take the piss saying I'm really white like in other threads as I barely go out atm, got 8 months of this hell
Getting problems uploading photos
Was recently given an original Casio Databank. It's in quite good condition, much better than the photo makes out. Thoughts?
Gorgeous. Can you actually get anything on it?
Have you Plebblefags updated to 3.0? What's your favorite face? I find myself switching between DIN Time and a couple Casio AE-series homages.
Kinetic rotor in a smartwatch when?
Get the fuck on it, Seiko.
>somehow I forgot a real camera doesn't have an accelerometer to determine picture orientation
This was the original databank just so you know
/g/ pls advise ;_;
had a sporty (but not totally ugly) gshock for 8 years
kinda got bored with it and want something new, time to grow up and shit.
been lurking everywhere since christmas and i'm very tempted to buy a skx007 because you cannot go wrong with something classic, rite
but the thing is, i'm not 100% sold yet on the automatic drive. i mean there are similar looking divers watches that have quartz+solar, which is as independent as automatic, but without the gay inaccuracy.
i'd like to buy a watch for at least 5 years, ideally 10 years (i'm in my early 20s).
pic related as fuck
kek pic related from casio's site
Well at least they're honest about their target market.
So is it the BN0150-10E with the rubber strap or the 61E with bracelet? If the latter the bracelets on the promaster divers are very nice, with a ratcheting dive extension for easy adjustment and solid endlinks compared to the infamously shitty 007 bracelet.
>having to set your watch every week so it can actually do its primary function, show actual time and not just some random time
>this is a good thing
would you not recommend going for the rubber strap one? it's around 70€ cheaper
Found a Komandirskie Blue Dial for 50 bucks. Pic related. Cop or not /g/?
I'm in need of a decent, tough, daily wear watch especially since I lost my Wave Ceptor last month.
can you wear bracelets tight enough so the watch doesn't slide down when you walk? or is this pretty much a given when using a bracelet? sorry coming from a resin band and the watch stood tight
Yeah, where did you find one already, ebay?
Roommate is out for the weekend
Time for wristshots
Reminder that the Willard Seiko is not the same model that the SRP777 is a homage to. If that's the only reason you'd want to buy one of course.
Willard had a 6105, the new Prospex watch is a remake of the 6309.
More pics. Please respond, someone with knowledge of Soviet automatics.
Yeah I know, and I prefer the 6105 over the 6309 anyway, but still a 6309 is cool too. Apparently the 6309 has also had it's own movie appearances.
That's a handwind, not an automatic.
And 50$ is too much for it.
I took this picture earlier for a watch thread on /b/. Sarb017
I have the manual that came with it, but it looks like a bitch to program
Wasn't worded very well, my bad. And original wasn't the correct word, either. You can tell I don't know shit about this sort of stuff
Probably should have added the cheaper link.
Hey pebble bros
I like DIN Time for when I need a quick forecast in the morning. I dont use the Weather app as there's no way to determine how often it pulls from the server.
For a glanceable Analog I like TH10c (pic related >>52444187).
For a basic normie digital face I like Casio AE-20W, MGSV2, Big Shadow, BlockSlide and 91 Dub v2.0
The malasiyan movements aren't that bad really. (Though the one on the left is jap made).
Though in comparison, the Vostok 2414A is bulletproof, but will need regulating.
Ah, i know that seller.
He's a pretty chill dude, and he's willing to mark what ever you want on the package to avoid customs.
As far as the watch goes, it's alright but he has a few better Orients in stock.
It's $119 on Massdrop. Is it worth it?
So what's the deal with Vostock?
I have a vague understanding concerning Soviet (now Russian) watch makes:
Poljot shut down - now "german" or "swiss" made using the same name.
Molnija? (dead and buried presumably)
I know Vostock Europe was Ukrainian or something and entirely separate from Bocktock of blue scuba dude fame, but and is now functionally "swiss" or some shit.
Volmax was Ukrainian too, right?
The new blue/black scuba dude amphibia's and new komandirskies that I see every once and a while on here, are they still made in Russia?
What kind of strap or bracelet would you recommend for this watch? The old strap is disintegrating. Also, should I again get a slightly bigger strap, and cut out the corners, but this time more neatly?
They are a working and functioning company, and they still make watches and movements as they used to from their Chistopol based factory.
Molnija/Slava are dead atm, Shturmanskie is basically Poljot which are also dead.
Volmax is a company that made watches based on the dwindling supply of old Russian movements, was formed by former employees of Poljot
Maktime made poljot movements for a short while after poljot broke up.
Vostok-Europe are partially connected to, but they are a Lithuanian brand that uses both Vostok movements,Swiss movements and also Seiko movements (NH35 and the very special NE88).
Vostok are still in business, and their main designer still sell new unique special edition models (WHERE IS MY NEW FUCKING NEPTUNE, MERANOM YOU DRUNK CUNT)
More or less it.
Other companies/brands that i missed are, Luch,Chaika and Raketa.
Pic related kinda covers a bit of it, including two of the still alive companies.
Brown leather strap, or a brown leather nato.
Thanks kindly for the run down, anon.
It's most heartening to hear that there's at least one (?) major watchmaking facility alive in Russia today.
They used to make all those fascinating 24hr watches.
Dead and buried too, I suppose.
Thanks for the advice, but how can I be sure that you are not that guy who recommends brown straps on every komamdirskie, even a blue one like this?
Just kidding, I'll add that to my consideration.
Actually they are among the two that are still alive.
They are among the only watch factories in the world that manufacture everything in their watches in-house, including hairsprings.
Nah, it's just looks nice on almost all Komandiskies.
Try it out.
looks like a nicer and newer version of my crap.
Used or new?
Honestly i wouldn't pay that much
Commie bund strap? Ebay has some newly made ones from places like Russia and Ukraine.
I really forgot that one.
But i think bund straps still can be covered over leather natos.
I hope you know the legal definition for "Made in Japan" is even more lax than for "Swiss Made". The watch could be made in another country using Japanese machines and be inspected by someone Japanese and it would qualify to get stamped with "Japan". Paying extra for a 7S26 watch just because it says Japan instead of Malaysia is silly, they're identical.
I'm fairly sure all the cheap to midrange Seikos are pretty much third world child slave labor tier no matter what country is on the dial, my SARB has JAPAN stamped all over it and yet the rough case is made in China before being finished in Japan. I only really trust GS and Credor to be fully made in Japan.
Only compelling reason i had to get it is because the seller was willing to mark what ever i wanted on the package to avoid customs.
Otherwise a regular K version at the time was 10$ less, but another 50$ in taxes if not avoided.
Actually apparently even GS has some foreign parts in it, apparently. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/where-seiko-watches-really-made-juicy-mistake-1084156.html
>due to the nature of customs and labor laws in Japan, products are generally allowed to be stamped with Made in Japan if they are produced outside the national boundaries as long as they are manufactured in a wholly owned Japanese firm where the work is overseen by Japanese nationals. Generally speaking, watches priced below about 90000 yen (currently $838 US dollars) do not contain enough profit margin to be made in Japan. This is not just for Seiko, but for all major Japanese manufacturers. Watches priced roughly from 90000 to 250000 yen (currently $838 to 2328 US dollars) are often finished or with final assembly done in Japan and higher end watches above this point are often fully assembled in Japan.
And by the way reading that part about profit margins for manufacturing in Japan and ask yourself how reasonable it is to think that the Swatch jews are really paying first world European wages to have their ETA movements made in Switzerland.
Casio databank, Casio Easy reader, Seiko sgg711, and Seiko SARB065.
With old due respect the dial is manufactored with not the finest printmanship.
maybe i would have got myself ones like these if i wasn't living in their home country so they would feel exotic though
Be honest to yourself.
You don't care how many seconds it is right now. it won't go further than one minute a month, nore likely less.
Moreso difference +-5 minutes never actuallu mattered to you
>what time is it?
>Oh it's about half til six
>And by the way reading that part about profit margins for manufacturing in Japan and ask yourself how reasonable it is to think that the Swatch jews are really paying first world European wages to have their ETA movements made in Switzerland.
Hence Omega's chinkmade bracelets.
What else of theirs is made there? The whole cases?
In Rolex We Trust.
Today I overheard the rich dude with the ceramic Planet Ocean chrono:
>I know these Seikos in the same price range are a hundred times more accurate (I assume he's talking about the GS Spring Drive), but seriously would you buy a Seiko for that much money or one of these (his Omega)
>Now I know Seiko nerds actually exist...
At this point I completely zoned out over what he said. Why do watchfags become completely tasteless once they have the loads of money to buy actual non-shit watches? The other two watches I've seen him with was some Breitling chrono and some subdial-seconds Panerai.
>Why do watchfags become completely tasteless once they have the loads of money to buy actual non-shit watches? The other two watches I've seen him with was some Breitling chrono and some subdial-seconds Panerai.
because this guy thinks wearing those hunk of metal will get him pussy or respect and he pins his purchases on these hopes instead of buying what he may really want.
That's not the biggest problem with it. Since it's a 600m autochrono it's thick as fuck, it makes my Ministry Amphi look like a gf diver!
>because this guy thinks wearing those hunk of metal will get him pussy or respect
This is a successful, wealthy, confident grown man with prob. a family, not some neckbeard NEET in his 20's. The guy just seems to have real shit taste, the other richfags in class are collecting things like dressy vintage Omegas, Doxa divers, Wittnauers, Max Bills, European tuning fork watches, just a few that got mentioned just today.
I'm on Ebay looking for vintage watches, English isn't my first language, the text below specify : CLOCK FAST, what is that ?
Clock is working apparently, is there a special meaning for "Clock Fast" or it mean clock is working faster as normal ?
Holy shit the butthurt denial some fags in that thread was delicious!
WUS sucks smelly arab asshole though.
Admittedly they're pretty big. But I like them a lot for some reason. Might actually get one when I'm not a fucking poorfag anymore. And hey at least I'd be getting one because I like them and not to try impress people. If the time comes when I can afford one, I won't get a chrono one like that.
In the mean time I'm enjoying my shitty Alpha PO. Not as shitty as I thought it'd be for £75 though. Just need a good strap/bracelet for it now.
>Actually they are among the two that are still alive.
>They are among the only watch factories in the world that manufacture everything in their watches in-house, including hairsprings.
Just took a look at their site.
Yikes. Costlier than I had expected (but I'm basing my experience on those cheapie raketa's that littered ebay a few years ago).
Would you say that the +500euro prices are justified?
I'm sure the normal Planet Ocean is not as thick as the chrono. With the chrono you have to fit in the entire chronograph complication and the space between the crystal and the dial is probably more too due to all the extra hands.
I don't think it's much thinner. I had a look at one through a shop window yesterday but because of the autistic angle they placed it in I couldn't really see. It pisses me off when stores do that. If they're selling me something they should have it so I can actually fucking see it
As far as i know the new Avtomat line is based on a new in-house caliber that was recently developed, also with some cooperation with the former ceo of Rolex (That joined the company).
So it's a brand new watch with a new in-house movement (That's based on the 2427/2627 movements), and it's apparently better then the regular and (maybe) elaborated grades of something like a ETA 2824-2 (One thing is that it also handwinds without hurting the movement).
A lot going for it, but the price for the Avtomat and the Amphibian models are kinda steep, but then again they are all in-house made down to the hairsprings.
Might be that I got lucky with my mechanical movement, but it keeps better longer term accuracy than my quartz watch.
Set both of them 11 days ago, the quartz is ~2 seconds ahead of time.gov, while the mechanical is ~1 second behind. The thing is I can just let the mechanical rest overnight in a certain position to correct for this error. The quartz will continue to gain time regardless.
MKII is working on a good Pan-Am GMT Master homage. If you like homages their quality is absolutely first rate. I have the Sea Fighter (Blancpain Fifty Fathoms homage) and it has kept +2s/day for the last four years of constant wear. I can't find a flaw in the watch anywhere and I've beat the fuck out of it.
It'll cost about $1600 though.
Why not look at Christopher Ward? They have a really attractive GMT that has a bit of its own style, and if you don't like big, it comes in 38mm.
I guess you just happened to get lucky but in general quartz is at least a whole order of magnitude more accurate. And like you said, the mechanical watch has a huge amount of positional variation while quartz has none.
Interesting, I hadn't heard of MKII. Seems pretty expensive but I guess they use pretty high-grade ETA movements and AR coated crystals and good lume and stuff so I guess they're at least apparently making good stuff. They're the right goddamn size for once too, none of this 42mm shit. That's a pretty steep price for a watch which is ultimately a ripoff but I'll definitely keep them in mind thanks anon.
I've been kind of following Christopher Ward for a while too because they seem like a good interesting brand, but none of their watches look good to me. I hate that wavy texture dial they always use and the cheesy trident hand and the other hands too and I really can't stand the CHR.WARD L O N D O N logo.
They're expensive AND slow. I waited seven months after ordering to get my Sea Fighter (it was assembled to order from a number of face, bezel, hand, case finish, and movement options). Some people have waited years.
They're well adjusted (and I do mean adjusted, not just regulated), but sloth is the price for the quality because Bill Yao is running a one man shop.
Customer service stories:
I was living in Japan when I ordered my MKII and after the Fukushima earthquake Bill e-mailed me the next day to make sure I was okay.
I got my watch on a bracelet and later ordered a rubber strap from him and while it wasn't a big deal to me he took the time to look up my watch and bead blasted the buckle to match my case.
Neat, sounds like a high-class Obris Morgan. I waited several months with my memesplorer on preorder and I emailed Justin a couple of times and he was very helpful.
Well I guess a middle class Obris Morgan. High class would be putting your name on the list for a Laurent Ferrier or something.
I'd like to see some new vostok amphibia dials. Made a sort of sketch.
It certainly is. I like it a lot too, fits the outdoorsy aesthetic of the owlbenis quite well.
I just added the Slava to my collection of commies. I am also waiting for a Railroad Approved tuning fork in the mail.
How good/bad are cheap Timex quartz movements? I am ultimate poorfag and with canada raep prices things like the seiko 5 are not $50 where I live.
These are two that I think are somewhat stylish. Any opinions? Sorry if this offends high end watch people. I understand that they aren't mechanical and stuff, but do they keep time well enough?
Post things you hate on watches
>chronographs with chrono-seconds on subdial
>Arabic numerals, except on subdials, unless it is a field style watch
>Roman numerals except in some excellent examples
>day of week complications
>lume on bezels, except a pip at 12 o clock
Bracelet could be dogshit and pull hairs and pinch.
If it's comfortable, it is probably the best though. Followed by the leather strap.
I'd like to hear about the quality of alpha bracelets and the watch itself, I have been thinking about getting a Daytona from them but those planet oceans don't look half bad
While folded bracelets will pinch most people solid bracelets pinch people with hair of a certain length/thickness. I lent my watch with an oyster bracelet to someone and they couldn't bear it for 2 minutes because it would pinch like crazy. I've never had that issue with it.
>lume on bezels, except a pip at 12 o clock
So you dislike the BP Fifty Fanthoms?
>Arabic numerals, except on subdials, unless it is a field style watch
So you dislike Breguet numerals, many IWC Portugese and possibly Panerai / Fliegers?
Depends what you mean by 'legit' and by 'companies.'
Depends on what you're looking for. I'd actually argue Vostok is one of the most diehard because they're still making unrepentant Sovietcore stuff with new lineupst that appeal to broader tastes and can be quite nice. And because it's Slav on old-ass machinery the prices are probably some of the best bang for your buck out there.
Aside from them, Damasko are a good example of a tiny company making their own fucking products. Probably one of the only one that actually are capable of making all their damn parts in-house, and it's a family business, too. Unlike Rolex you don't have to pay as much of a premium, though their designs don't appeal to everyone.
Sinn is another good company though I feel they've gotten worse over time marking their products up and appealing to a more nouveau riche audience. Still good, though, and German technology (albeit Sellita movements)
And of course we can't avoid Seiko or Orient. I'd say Orient is actually better value for money sub $300 as their parts and movements actually are made in Japan as opposed to the Malaysian movement Seikos. And of course Seiko owns them.
For pure, no-bullshit, cheap beater quartz shit that has no qualms about it, Timex is great.
Seiko, Vostok, Casio, Citizen, Timex, the independent high end watchmakers, many microbrands, Stowa, Patek Philippe. I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting but all of those companies are independent and free of conglomerate fuckery (or they are the conglomerate themselves) and even though they're all in different price brackets and different styles they're all mostly honest about what they make and focus on the manufacturing rather than the marketing and they all make good watches.
Honorable mention to brands like Rolex that at least make good watches but which also sell them for way more than they're worth for just the name and suffer from the cancer that makes the watch industry shit.
Another honorable mention to the Swatch Group for being the cancer that makes the watch industry shit.
So true brother, so true.
>Shell out 7k for Omega
>bracelet is made in China
Problem with Rolex and indeed with other independent high-end companies (looking at you, IWC), is that, sure, they make good products. But they make money by marking the shit up on their product and selling it to the rich kids, drug dealers, and obviously corrupt East Asian/Gulf State officials demographics which further increases the cycle.
Hence why, in my opinion, Vostok is probably one of the only honest companies still around (and even they sell their movements to fashion-tier shitholes like the Latvian Vostok Europe)
Only watch I have is that bin laden casio watch and would like to purchase a better one.Budget ~$500, taste minimalism. Pic related caught my eye, duty fees might be a bitch though for Canada.
Hello my fellow Canuck
With the Canadian dollar at its most cucked right now in years and falling more, and our gay fucking import prices, I can only recommend you make a decision and buy soon. Junkers is a cool brand but it'll be $300 USD for a Miyota, with import and shipping basically $550+ Trudeaubux for a Miyota 8215 movement. That's pretty bad desu smhfam. Add to that the PVD rose gold plating that'll flake and make you look old Greek salesman core.
So let me recommend, if you want simplistic pilot style watches, Tisell of Worst Korea:
>"Joyful online shopping"
If you want to purchase used I can recommend Watchrecon:
There's also eBay, if you don't give a shit about water resistance (ie you won't swim with it) Parnis actually makes OK watches, I've had 3-4 pass through my possession and no real complaints. With the dollar the way it is though they'll still run you 120+
If you're looking more to the max end of your budget and want the best "bang for your buck" at $500 CAD there's not a whole lot of options. BUT there are Seikos from the SARB and SARG series on Amazon.ca as well as the famous 007 series, those could be worth it, too.
Enjoy and pick something you like.
saw this watch on aliexpress
Is it a panerai homage?
Thank you for taking the time to write that, I will take a look. If this changes anything for watch selection/pricepoint, I do have a U.S address to ship stuff too and bring over skipping the border fees.
Can you ID the Genuine version of this watch?
Not the Big Pilot; Parnis has a more shameless automatic rip off of that exact design (but with the date moved from 6 to 3). This is just a ripoff Flieger design.
If you want it it's a good watch, as I posted before I've had Parnis and they're actually really good for the money. You can get that one on eBay right now for $63 USD so even cheaper.
IWC for certain are one of the worst for this. They appeal almost solely to corrupt officials and the uber-(mostly, new) wealthy and have made many tasteless designs as a result. Not to mention their overpricing, and of course a lot of this comes from the fact they rely solely on celebrity ad campaigns to sell their product.
Like that one image where they got a bunch of famous actors in tuxedos and took a picture of them sitting at a table. Can't even tell if half of them are wearing IWC. But hey Emily Blunt and Cate Blanchett are both there! Don't worry, for the price of the average IWC you can also fuck one of them built into the price!
In terms of watches that I actually plan on buying eventually, it'd be the snow frake.
Thanks for the insight anon.
>but then again they are all in-house made down to the hairsprings.
Certainly a feather in their cap.
Have to find some onwer anecdotes out there first.
>Not tacky enough, put a picture of military stuff on it.
Their dial designers just don't get it, do they?
Still, cheesy stuff's kinda part of their charm.
What does everyone thing about the Vostock Amphib Radio Roooom?
Well tacky cheap Soviet shit is just what they do and I'm glad they've proudly stuck to it for decades through it all and I respect that, I just wouldn't personally wear most Vostoks. I just recently bought my first Raketa though so maybe I'm finally falling for the slavaboo meme now.
I think radio room dials are neat just because of the historical aspect and they actually look pretty good too (certainly better than tanks and submarines and shit at least). And of course under the dial is the same old well proven roughly made brick shithouse Thinkpad of mechanical movements as in any other Amphibia.
>Another honorable mention to the Swatch Group for being the cancer that makes the watch industry shit.
Hey now, I don't like the swatch group as much as anyone, but give credit where credit is due:
There would be no swiss watch industry without them - heck there likely would be no watch industry at all in that they'd just truly be forgettable, disposable chinese made japanese appliances everyone had and just took for granted.
Ironically enough, there would not be the variety of makers ("makers") we have today without swatch.
So Seiko was the cure for swiss indolence, and fucking ripped that shit right the fuck out.
Swatch group what the surgeon stitching all that shit back together.
Problem is, like you say, a stitched together mass of body parts and shit is gonna get frankenstein cancer.
Perhaps it should've all died out?
Panashits wouldn't have become a thing.
Rolex would not have expanded their sizing to appeal to mainland chinese whores.
Most of the swiss watch industry wouldn't be bland casemakers marching to the swatch 28k beat.
>IWC for certain are one of the worst for this. They appeal almost solely to corrupt officials and the uber-(mostly, new) wealthy and have made many tasteless designs as a result. Not to mention their overpricing, and of course a lot of this comes from the fact they rely solely on celebrity ad campaigns to sell their product.
>Like that one image where they got a bunch of famous actors in tuxedos and took a picture of them sitting at a table. Can't even tell if half of them are wearing IWC. But hey Emily Blunt and Cate Blanchett are both there! Don't worry, for the price of the average IWC you can also fuck one of them built into the price!
I would personally steer clear of IWC because 3 people I know have had nothing but problems with them and richemont service. 3 may be a small sample size, yes, but I've heard enough anecdotes online from others and the treatment of the issues at the service centres have been enough to make me steer right clear of them. Not that any of their shit bar the generic flieger design, that can be had anywhere, called to me in any way.
I understand why people would like this maker, but despite whatever else they offer I just can't get past the designs. Even if I did have the cash to blow on a boutique watch such as this, it would be to admire the craftsmanship and handiwork, not because I think it actually looked good and I wanted to wear it around.
Maybe I'm just boring, but to each their own.
Bund strap, eat-bloc strap.
It's not much of an insight, but i believe the overall appeal from the owners is quite good.
Didn't check links, but Timex is pretty decent, only they tick fucking loud
As long as you buy a watch from a watch company, it's good. Fashion companies are cancer, I'd rather have that plastic swatch than some adidas shit
The center second hand on the main dial is much bigger so it's easier to read so it makes sense to have the stopwatch second hand there and the running seconds hand on the subdial (if there's even a running seconds at all, it's not really necessary) rather than the other way around. Also if there's a tachymeter bezel then obviously that's only useful if the main dial seconds hand is for the chrono rather than running time.
But on dogshit fashion watches they usually put the running seconds on the main dial and the chrono seconds on the subdial probably because the people buying those watches have no idea how a chrono is actually supposed to work and will more likely just think the watch is broken if they don't see the big seconds hand ticking.
Because chronographs are used to time things and to do so accurately, telling the passage of individual seconds is more difficult on a subdial. The time of day often is a little less important to have to the second accuracy than whatever you are choosing to explicitly time over a short duration. So it's only natural that the chrono seconds get the central seconds and the running seconds gets the subdial.
And many chronographs come with a tachymeter on them, even if if they are using the subdial for chronograph seconds, which is just beyond stupid.
1st-gen pebble, if you're not looking to drop over $100.
it does everything you need a watch to do, like being decently waterproof, long battery life, and having a highly readable screen that's visible all the time. Button controls mean you can operate it without looking at it.
The b/w screen is actually quite pretty if you like the look of traditional segmented LCDs. I kinda wish it had more of the "grain" on the reflective layer like >>52454638
It's probably not a big deal whether you leave it running or not on most watches. I can only think of a couple of movements maybe where I know it's important to either use it all the time or not use it unless you need it but I think in general it doesn't really matter. You'll probably reduce the power reserve time or run down the battery faster, though.
But also if you just start running the chrono all the time then that won't really be showing the actual current time anyway, it'll just be elapsed time since you started the chrono.
If I'm not mistaken, most chronos you should leave stopped. One of the exceptions is the old seiko 6138, in which case it's actually better to keep it running due to its vertical clutch.
I ordered one of these recently
Should I be worried
For your interest, I'm a manchild and glow in the dark is still dank as fuck for me, I mean I wouldn't want one on a non diver watch, but a diver sure as fuck would look cool with a lumed bezel and is sure to attract attention
I want it in both this colour and blood red dial
chronographs generally have their clock seconds on a subdial. With the chronograph seconds on the main dial.
When its flipped, any timing you planned on doing with your bezel is pretty fucked.
it's minimalist but with depth
so basically not minimalist
I'm kidding, I want a Celadon but the imperial is going to be discontinued before I work up the nerve to spend 900$ on a dress watch
It's a nice watch though, I wouldn't mind spending 900 phuckeronies on it
I think they look gross. I'll buy a bambino if I need a dress watch. but I usually just wear my anchor, which is pretty decent for what it is and more versatile than a dedicated sports watch or dedicated dress watch.
It maybe costs a bit more than it should but I got it unworn on ebay for like half price.
those halberd hands are so odd. Definitely takes more risks than the imperial. I'd have to see some good high res pictures to see if it really works.
at least they are really going all out with the color schemes as well, its a watch you wear if you want to start a conversation about how much of a watch hipster you are
>why yes this is limited to 50 pieces worldwide
>oh you thought they only made plastic dogshit in china?
>Of course, the boldness of the design is what makes it so classic
This is a sad day for me. I thought they were expensive before (I'm actually saving up for a now sold out watch), but to buy one second hand...either people will hold onto them for life or sell them at three times the value. God I hate capitalism sometimes hah
what watch is very similar?
is there a mechanical chronograph that's the next step up from an alpha daytona homage? Would it be the seagulls? Is there anything else that uses that movement in that price range of sub-300$?