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>even the normies i know are pissed about this
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>even the normies i know are pissed about this

has apple finally overstepped its bounds? will they finally be forced to admit they screwed up? are they finished without steve? tune in to this thread to find out!!!.
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>>52443554
No, because this isn't the first time this has happened and people will forget about it three months later.
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>le normies XD

kill yourself
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>>52443565
not if they cant listen to music they need their shitty watered down pop to live dont you get it?
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>>52443554
>things should stay the way they are forever!

normies should shut the fuck up
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>>52443585
how the fuck do you listen to music for more than 3 hours at a time?
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>>52443581
The only thing I get is that you care way too much about normies.
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>>52443573
>>le normies XD

>kill yourself

>t. a normie

kill yourself
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>>52443554
bluetooth
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>>52443585
10/would buy even if apple brand
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>>52443611
>having to charge headphones
>shitty reception
>players autopausing
>at most 4 hour battery life

been there done that
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>>52443636
>>52443611
lightning headphones, not bluetooth. they already exist and are an improvement.
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>>52443657
can i get them in a none retarded shape?
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>>52443657
>Replacing my Shure se215s with some lighting crap
no thanks.
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>>52443585
I would buy two of those, one I'd keep in my car/storage for emergencies and the other in my kitchen/dining area.
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>>52443554
Wait... this is real?

Holy shit this is so fucking retarded
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>>52443573
>encouraging people to commit suicide online
kill yourself
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sure they'll complain about it but what are they gonna do? Buy a nexus instead? kek
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>>52443581
Like the current iPhone, this will obviously ship with Apple's Lightning connected headphones and most the people who would complain will just start using them.
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so every iFag will we using the shitty overpriced apple wireless headphones that probably won't even come with the iPhone 7, or using something like this, which Apple will probably start selling a clone of for 3x the price (inb4 shill):
http://musemini.com/clipr/
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>>52443604
He has a point, only a normalfag says normie
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>>52443565
Apple never had more than 1% marketshare any of those times.
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>>52443585
>the joke turned out to be a god tier concept
who's laughing now minimalismfag
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>>52443657
>literally same shit tier $0.10 earphones except with proprietary applel connectors so they can charge $50
>improvement
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Apple fans will either stick with the included lightning headphones, buy bluetooth headphones or pay out the ass for a lightning to 3.5mm adapter
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>>52443554
>>52443657
Can you even plug in these headphones and charge it at the same time?
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>>52443657
>a more expensive, less durable connector is an improvement
>having the DAC in the headphones to increase the cost is an improvement
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>>52443585
>guitar jack
I didn't realize there was a connector specifically for guitars
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>>52443812
they'll mostly probably just use the shitty ones
anybody who cares probably won't buy the new iphone, which would be me if I didn't already have a decent android
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>>52443842
It's a 1/4" jack.
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>>52443554
It's almost certainly going to come with a lightning to 3.5 adapter, if not a y-splitter. although I don't think that this is a great idea on apple's part, I don't think it should be as big of a deal as people are making it.
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>>52443757
>implying
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Are there new leaks out?
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>>52444625
>defending normie
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>>52443657
>Improvement
No. It'll be identical. The only difference is that you won't be able to charge your phone while listening to music
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>>52443858
i kinda envy iphone users because they have PositiveGrid/BIAS, it looks amazing to just plug in, load some tone and jam without having to be in front of a pc/an amp. I'm considering buying an ipad solely for this.
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>>52445082
Why not put a lightning port top and bottom? I fully expect Android devices to go to two USB C ports.
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>>52443554
I can't wait for the placebophile companies' tears.

Before:
>"here's our special dac for only 399, to get the most out of your headphones"
>"with this 499 amp, our headphones really shine"
>etc.

Now:
>hey, here's a digital signal, now you have full control, build the heaphones right or fuck off
>"b-but..."
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>>52444322
It's actually a pretty huge deal.

Apple reps won't give out forewarnigs to anyone that buys one of these. They wont say, "oh by the way you wont be able to use your $200 Beats headphones with this phone", the same ones they sell at their own fucking stores, mind you. Unless of course you buy a stupid adapter or buy a pair of headphones designed for the port, which you can't use on anything else.

Apple should be chastised for this shit.
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>>52443835
>>52443657
These aren't even lightning headphones. It's a picture of the power cable and the normal headphones, I thought you guys were smarter than this. Apple has said that there will be a pass through for the power cable.
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>>52445277
>implying I keep up with apple products to know any better
Shit son, I just thought they were generic apple earbuds with a lightning cable instead of 3.5mm.
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>>52443757
*she
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>>52443554
>normies
opinion discarded normalfag
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>>52445192
I'm certain that the adapter will come with the phone. apple would wouldn't just eliminate 98% of the headphone market and not include a solution in box.
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>>52443573
>being this mad over a meme
Kenan and Kel yourself
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>>52445788
>meme
normalfag is a 4chan term that can't be replaced.
suck it up or back to >>/reddit/ with you.

oh here's a meme for you: GTFO my /g/
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>>52443585
it's an improvement, but still wouldn't buy t︂b︂︂h
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>>52443554
More Apple extortion: Pay a lot for proprietary headphones edition.

They're loosing to Android anyways, but they can still milk their fan boys and creatures of habit for a lot of cash.

And they're doing it.
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>>52443585
I actually miss my phone that had a swing-out keyboard

touchscreens are shit and always will be
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>>52443600
what makes you say that?
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>>52445910
or, you know. bluetooth. so proprietary...
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>>52443554
desu t b h
senpai f a m
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buy t︂b︂︂h
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>>52445167
Having nothing but digital out changes absolutely nothing in the first scenario. You know what DAC stands for, right?
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>>52445910
>They're losing to android anyways
L M A O.

>muh marketshare!

Apple holds 90 something percent of the profits. The only reason android has any hold at all is because of poorfag phones in third world countries.
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>>52445968
You mean the relatively unpopular thing (has existed for a long time, never got very popular) that needs charging and breaks people's habits and still costs more anyways?

People are going to pay $50 or $100 to avoid BT.
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>>52445998
>/g/ posters
>knowing anything about how technology works

O ye of too much faith.
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>>52446017
> Apple holds 90 something percent of the profits.
That they have users dumb enough to pay them this is exactly why they lined up the next reason for them to pay more money.

No, Apple isn't dying, they're just milking a system that has a huge chance of becoming irrelevant soon due to it's very weak position in the market.

Yes, market share matters, the software exclusives are giving more and more of an advantage to Android.
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>>52446139
>software exclusives giving more of an advantage to android
Uh...

Regardless, I'm willing to pay for a phone that isn't a steaming pile of shit. Literally every android phone is flawed and not guaranteed to receive the latest version. Fragmented updates are a fucking mess, and honestly it's laughable how the 6s/6s+ can outperform 99% of android "flagships" with 2 cores and 2 gigs of ram.
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>>52446188
le dubs of truth
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>>52445998
All I'm saying is, placebophile companies tried to present the *integrated* player components (amp, dac) as shit, so they could sell their standalone solutions.

Now, with digital out and since all these components all built into the headphones, they can't sell additional standalone stuff. But they also can't just sum the costs and sell 900$ headphones.

They'll have to use something sensible and admit that their previous products were overpriced.
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>>52446291
I knew there were some retards on /g/ but jesus
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>>52446291
>Now, with digital out and since all these components all built into the headphones, they can't sell additional standalone stuff.
m8 you have no idea how wrong you are here. All that's going to happen is the argument shifts from "the phone's DAC is shit buy our stuff" to "the built-in DAC in those headphones is shit buy our stuff AND these other headphones".

And you know what? Unless given proof otherwise I would actually agree by default that a DAC built in to a pair of headphones is not going to be that good.
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>>52446306
What seems to be the problem m8?

Digital out in such a popular device, means headphones with integrated amps and dacs.

And if your headphones are made for digital in and have their own dac and amp, you can't use a standalone one.
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>>52443600
How can you not? Coding, doing math, going through image archives, downloading in general, etc.
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>>52445134
You can get AmpliTube on Android now
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>>52445883
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>>52446401
But does Android have low latency audio like the iPhone for apps like that?
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>>52446469
To be honest, no. Samsung has a Pro Audio mode that's supported by some apps but it's still not perfect
it's getting better though
http://superpowered.com/ has info
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>>52446188
>Fragmented updates are a fucking mess
Centralized updates like Windows or IOS have them are the bigger mess, and one which you can't really avoid.

> it's laughable how the 6s/6s+ can outperform 99% of android "flagships" with 2 cores and 2 gigs of ram.
They can't. Oh, the two cores on the 6 series of Apple phones are pretty good, but they certainly aren't like the four to eight only marginally weaker cores on various Android devices overall.

Well, Apple needed 1-2 fast cores, IOS can't really handle four or eight or more yet anyways.
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>>52446592
>Centralized updates like Windows or IOS have them are the bigger mess, and one which you can't really avoid.
It's clear that you don't like Apple or Microsoft. I'm sure you have plenty of real world experience with both to have based your clearly rational decision. Could you, however, explain what ever the fuck you were trying to point out using English and maybe the proper words? It would help us to better call you the faggot that you are.
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>>52446592
>Centralized updates are a bigger mess
fucking how? at least you GET the updates.

Benchmarks always have android phones lagging behind in single core scores, which is arguably much more important, and easier to develop for. there's still apps for android which shove most of the work onto one core.
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>>52446566
Based Samsung.

>supports Galaxy S and Note series
>android 4.1 up
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>>52446686
>which is arguably much more important
It isn't, on Android.
Apps on Android scale well across multiple cores. Apps on iOS may be more reliant on single core performance.
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>>52445761
They sell an extension cord for the pencil so you can charge it without looking like a jackass separately. This is Apple were talking about here
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>>52446686
>fucking how? at least you GET the updates
Actually I always had multiple possible upgrade paths, one of which I pursued instead of the stock one when the stock one sucked.

I wished I could have done the same with IOS back when I still had it, glad to be rid of it.

Ditto for Windows 10, that shit will be a problem eventually, moving forward.

Ah yea, stock vendor updates on my older phone are being delivered after 3+ years, not that I still use that one. Cameras got better, so I switched.

> which is arguably much more important, and easier to develop for
That's just an IOS impression. Android is regularly busy doing stuff on even eight cores, no big problem.

Also is related to Android having real multitasking.

That IOS can't do this stuff yet is a severe drawback vs. how we generally make modern CPU / SoC / APU / ...
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>>52443600
how much did satan pay for your soul?
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>>52446930
No, at the last minute they added a female to female Lightning converter into the Pencil box so that you could charge it with a cable.

But you need to buy an aftermarket male to female cable if you want to connect it to your iPad without plugging it directly into the jack.
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>>52443781
Pretty sure the last time they did something like this was with the Lightning port, and they're still alive
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>>52446139
>Yes, market share matters, the software exclusives are giving more and more of an advantage to Android.
I like how more people use Android, yet developers are still more likely to develop for iOS first
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>>52447083
iOS is where mommies credit card is.
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>>52443839
>DAC in headphones
Fuck I didn't think of that, what the fuck was applel thinking? That's literally forcing people to buy something like a Fiio E07k or something to get any kind of decent sound quality
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>>52443812
>lighting to 3.5mm adapter
>digital to analog
When people realize that the adapter isn't going to be just a cable like most of them are they're going to flip their shit when they realize they won't be able to use their beets™ headphones.
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>>52447109
What's better is that the DAC will obviously have to be before the conversion to analog, which means either in the Lightning connector on the headphones, at the joint on the headphones, or in the headset itself.
And if you have earphones with split wire then you will need two DACs if the DAC isn't in the connector, one for each earpiece, which brings in the possibility of having them perform differently.
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>>52446341
and if you know anything about headphones you would know why integrated dacs and amps are a fucking terrible idea. it's only purpose is to jack up the price on fucking terrible shit in the style of beats and bose, so headphones which don't sound any better than $5 IEMs but cost $200+. I just keep using my regular old analog headphones which actually sound good thanks.
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>>52443554
Well their stock has been taking tumbles, and going up and down like a rollecoaster the last few days, maybe even their investors are giddy about their next product?
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>>52447163
Knowing apple it'll probably be at the Y-section, fitting a DAC into a connector casing isn't easy.
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>>52446930
there's a huge difference between their optional proprietary stylus and every headphone in existance
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>>52447051
What? Change one propetary connector for another propetary connector?
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>>52446686
I knew there were retards on /g/ but.. Jesus Christ.
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>>52443585
This nay be the saltiest macfaggiest thing i've ever seen
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>>52447245
I guess the annoyance was more with all the products, like docks, built around that 30 pin connector that would no longer work without an adapter, which was huge and added more strain to the connectors.
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Yet again apple innovates. 2 ports become 1. Device gets thinner. Progress is made.
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>>52447193
Especially considering that the connector is already housing the Lightning DRM chip.
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People were mad when they removed CD drives, too.

Few years down the line:
>CDs? Who uses those?
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>>52443554
Do you know what PISSES ME OFF, you subhuman turbo autist?

That faggots like you have to make a thread about apples EVERY LITTLE fart. No matter how unimportant that shit was, /g/ has to have at least 3-5 threads about apple, constantly.

Fuck you, it is JUST A PHONE, ffs! I have an android and i stopped caring for apple a long time ago, and the only place i get annoyed with their existence is here.
I hope people like you suffocate when they hear how well fucking aplel did agian with some pontless device.

>25/10 MAD
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>>52447513
That's because a better technology, the internet, existed and was rapidly improving. The last time I used a CD tray was when I was installing Oblivion from the disc. But what's going to replace headphones? Bluetooth? We've had bluetooth headphones for years and nobody uses them because standard headphones are superior. Apple is trying to predict a trend here, but I don't think they got it right. I'll eat my words if they did though, but if my friend's father is using the same headphones he bought ten years ago, I highly doubt Apple got this one right.
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>>52443585
Take away the card/viewmaster/8-track/floppy shit, then get rid of the hand strap+stand and make the android switch less retarded and i would absolutely buy one, assuming it has a decent battery life and top-tier DAC.
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>>52447542
>hurr unimportant
It's very important you dumb fucking cunt, it's replacing a standard with a dumb bullshit which will increase the cost to EVERYONE (headphone manufacturers need to design 2 of everything, they're going to make it more expensive to compensate) all for retarded jew reasons that will end up getting reversed after the EU fine these dumb fucks heaps.
We'll still be left with a fractured, floundering headphone market and the possibility of other dumb shit phone manufacturers (ie, samsung) copying this shit.
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>>52443554
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>>52447795
Whew! Thanks for fixing it, Anon! I guess we can put this whole thing behind us.
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>>52447704
>copying this shit.

I am perfectly clear about how much impact that shit could have. But have you considered for once that this will be a huge fail and sane people will abandon apple and samshit and other retarded companies for that kind of bs?

>unimportatn
I said that bacause what happends in these threads is just the usual bitching and whining, since g consists to 90% of crybabies. But that shit won't stop apple from doing it.
All you do in this threads is make fun of apple to feel better about your own crippling virginity.
Just forget about that company and move on. Do like me and save only family members/ close friends from apple, no need to sperg averyday in 3 threads how much android is the best thing since bread.
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Those FUCKING nails.
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nobody uses headphones on their phones anyhow
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>>52447853
Jesus fucking Christ, is that a man or a woman?

Either way, they're fucking yellow


ugh..
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You know .. /g/ actually predicted that Apple would try to deprecate the quarter inch jack, and guess what, they tried.
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>>52443657
>Apple will sell niggerbeats with lightning instead of 3.5mm
>1000 bucks each pair
>INNOVATION
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Why the fuck people need a thinner phone
>inb4 apple releases paperphone in 2020
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>>52447662
you'd get rid of the viewmaster before the punchcard reader!?

wtf is wrong with you
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>>52447328
But the device hasn't gotten thinner.
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>>52448187
>removing the camera from the image

Quality Apple marketing.
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>>52447513
the two are not even remotely comparable
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>>52447704
that's assuming any of this will take off. all of apple's proprietary hardware will be remembered as firewire 2.0 aka a failure.
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>>52447513
>i still buy music on CDs
>i had to get my friend to rip my CDs on his 17" macbook pro because my ultrabook doesnt have an optical drive
But we don't need 17" monitors on laptops either, right?
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>>52448432
>But we don't need 17" monitors on laptops either, right?
recently got a gaming laptop that i wish was smaller but the company only had lesser specs on the 15" versions. (not just ram and ssstorage but non-upgradeable stuff like the processor and graphics card)
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>Apple sets trends

>They removed the idea of removal batteries
>They removed the idea of expandable storage
>They are now removing the idea of headphone jacks

wake me up inside
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What are we talking about?

Did apple get rid of the headphone jack?
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>>52448634
>They removed the idea of expandable storage
I don't know, Z5 has expandable storage.
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>>52448967
Yes, the only way to connect to the new iphone will be through proprietary apple ports, so that they get a licensing fee on the connector for your headphones.
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>>52443604
>t.
What does it mean ?
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>>52449001
its /int/ meymey.

means terveisin.
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op here this thread is still kicking around? its been 7 hours guys you can calm down
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>>52443554
>>even the normies i know are pissed about this

They are "pissed" as in "APPLE YOU BETTER CHANGE IT BACK WHEN I BEND THE FUCK OVER TO BUY IPHONE7s"
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>>52449018
Thanks.
Cool kids nowadays. Can't understand what they say anymore.
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>>52443554
They will be praising the design choice once they have their hands on the latest iPhone.
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>>52448988
No one dared to do it before Applel did it and fanboydrones rationalized it as a feature.
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Normies will still buy it. They just will suffer through it and buy extra expensive headphones
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>>52449032
Something like this.
The pattern is this:

Before it's out people whine about it.
They then buy it anyway and talk about how the 'hate' for it is unjustified.
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>>52443585
that looks like that lenovo laptop everyone shills for here.
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>>52443585
This would be a lot better if the perspective weren't all fucked.
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>>52443585
Well yes when those things work and the proposed replacement is inferior.

I don't want a bluetooth headset until they are tiny and run on solar power.
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>>52443708
It wont take long before lightning replacement sure cables show up.

If anything you are more prepared than most.
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I'm a bit mad to see the normal headphone jack gone and i would rather see another open source alternative that every manufacturer can make headphones for but the thing thats bothering me way more is this "MAKE IT THINNER!" meme. Literally everybody i know (iOS user or android user) are mad that phones get thinner and battery life gets shorter. You literally have to buy a fucking 6" phone which is thin as fuck to get 1 and a half day battery instead of going for a medium thick phone that holds for 2 days
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>>52447832
> sane people will abandon apple
> implying sane people use apple products
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Am I the only one who thinks that instead of actually using the lightning protocol they'll just send analog over the cable? Is really easy. Set a fixed resistance over the headphones' data lines, the iPhone recognises that it should send analog audio, audio signal comes in over VCC. They should've done this with USB-C but still, they get away with it and will sell millions of convertor cables.
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>>52446188
>Literally every android phone is flawed and not guaranteed to receive the latest version

Meanwhile, with iPhones the latest version of the OS is guaranteed to cripple your performance.
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>>52443657
did people actually fall for this? I can't tell

hey guys pic related is a real product I promise :)
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>>52450072
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>>52449798
Flagship smartphones are already 'fast enough' for the majority of users. Given how many people use their smartphones as a status symbol, it's almost logical that current designs are trending towards 'what looks really cool' or 'what will make a special snowflake' over basic usability.
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>>52450159
The apple pencil charging port is the worst i've ever seen. Why did they not put it on the side of the pen so it would charge against the side of your device?
>99$ touchpen
>they expect it to sell
Wacom drawing tablets have much better tracking.
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>>52447513
the difference is that removing CDs simplified things for people and all this would do is clutter your desk with another fucking charging apparatus for some shit Bluetooth headphones that last two hours on a charge
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>>52448544
I have a 15" laptop with "decent" specs.
(ASUS N56VZ)

But the Poles charged the Taiwanese way too much for the copper, so the jews they where just made the cooling smaller.

So for a fancy computer that could go well in Gaymen, is throttling.
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>>52447795
What if Apple adds 2 lighting ports on the next iphone

>you can now charge your iphone twice as fast with 2 chargers
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>>52443565
No they won't, apple users see themselves as the elite, so they listen to music with their $400 memeheadphones. But what if they can't use their overpriced garbage headphones while charging their phone anymore? Aw shit, aw shit, what have you done tim cuck.
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>>52447513
>this retarded shit again
>3.5mm headphones are used as much as CDs
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>>52443585
>thinks he's making a point by showing that the other extreme is wrong also
fucking apple fags
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>>52447328
>less functionality for something that isn't even remotely useful
>innovation
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>>52443554
>I don't want to listen to HD audio on my phone!
Apple can get away with absolutely anything. People are still buying that MacBook like warm bread and the thing has a single port, which is way more unacceptable than this.
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>>52450159
steve jobs would be sad : (
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>>52447886
>>52447853
> not having gold nails that go with your gold phone

P L E B E S
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>>52448187
the iphone 5 was so fucking sexy.
hnnnngggggg.


I would still buy one just to look at it.
No homo.

The other Apple devices all look like shite.
Ps.: The latest iPod Touch is cute tho.
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>>52451262
no, he would be MAD, and slapped the shit out of all the faggots who came up with those designs
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>>52443554
Buy the adapter. Not that big of a deal.
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>>52451379
thanks Cook!
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>>52443585
>XLR jacks, a 1/4" jack and a film projector
Fucking take my money.
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>>52443554
What the fuck is this?
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>>52443585
Anon I'm dead. 10/10 keks
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