/hpg/ - Headphone General - Template Edition

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first for best chaika

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>>52441802

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>>52441802

AKG K702 for 130 britbong dollars yay/nay?

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I recently got a SubPac S2 (seatback model).
Basically, this is a headphone subwoofer (tactile bass system) that goes on your computer chair.
I'm a basshead so I crank the intensity almost all the way up.
If you want to feel bass, get a SubPac.

Official Website:
www.thesubpac.com

Innerfidelity Review:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/shakin-it-subpac-s2-headphone-subwoofer

I feel all the bass in this bass test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwrbFj9r10Y

>>52441874
yes

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>>52441882

>>52441874
Yes you can't find anything better at that price.

>>52441882
www.bassupmyass.com

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones

>>52442141
If we're linking rubbish.

http://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA62X3RY3166?icid=WP_6_01152016

>>52440461
Have you considered not talking out of your ass?

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Should i go for the meme that lords over all memes? They have a nice price drop.

>>52442535
how much?

>>52442640

$119.95. It looks like it doesnt matter because they dont ship to Bulgaria.

>>52442535
price drop where? looks like the same price to me on amazon at least.

>>52442687

http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-Professional-Headphones-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B016YJDV74/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452899673&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=audio+technica+ath+m50x&psc=1

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oh gosh

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if you had to choose ONE open headphone to last you for years of programming, and you don't own an amp, which of these would it be?

> K7XX at 199$, kinda usable unamped
> HD600 for at least 299$ + an amp for at least 60$

>>52442805
K7XX

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>>52441802

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Please assist me /g/ I went to Yodobashi but the moon runes overwhelmed me
$100-$300AUD/Japan/full/closed/edgy metal subgenres

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Need a third pair of headphones.

Help a /g/rother out!

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>>52443750
did you look up skirts on the elevator?

>>52443750
wait, why are you buying headphones in japan with AUD.... prices are cheaper elsewhere dawg

>>52443750
You couldn't figure out closed headphones to just listen to? What a waste.

>>52442805
HD 600

Sensitivity of both is really similar. One doesn't need amp more than the other.

I have AKG 701's but am looking for something with a bit more of a larger frequency response (701's are around 40k). Any suggestions /g/?

>>52444355
Why do you need that?

So I'm looking for a Fiio E10k and comparing prices... Anyone know how much Massdrop usually has them for when they have them up? It looks like the e10k just reached the votes it needs, so I'm curious if I should wait and get one from them

im deaf.

My cat ate the jack out of my IEMs, only the metallic part leaving the hard plastic enclosure around it hollow and perfectly intact.
I have no soldering iron in the apartment I'm in for the next few weeks, is there any way for me to fix this if I salvage another stereo jack from another broken pair of headphones?

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>>52441802
The GODDAMN BEST ILL TELL YOU WHAT

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Is it true AKG k702 a tab bit better than AKG k7xx?

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>this thread again.

>>52445305
You know, I definitely know how that guy feels with that. But he plays it up too much to the level of being fucking weird.

I'm also pretty sure he just soiled himself.

Hey guys what portable dac can I take for my one plus one and my Bayer dynamic 990 250ohm and my shure 125? Fiio? What model?

I need a recommendation on some new headphones for running. IEMs are very painful for me (even with Comply tips). They also need to be able to withstand reasonably cold temperatures (below 0C).

>Budget
$400

>Location
North-Eastern USA

>Source
iPod Classic (newest gen) with a Fiio E17 if needed

>Preferred type of headphone
Over-Ear

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Something wearable for up to two hours

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

>Preferred music
Anything that sounds good to me regardless of genre.

>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH M50 (Gave to someone as a gift after getting new cans, liked them fine despite elevated bass)

NAD Viso HP50 (Poor build quality, returned)

Current In Home Listening: Sennheiser HD 600

Thank you in advance.

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A friend recommended me a sennheiser hd25-1
Any thoughts?

>>52445990

They're great if that style is something you like. I liked the HD25 Aluminum (Previously Amperior) more, but they also cost about $130 more.

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Best sounding earbuds under $100?

Budget ~100
Closed
A bit bassy
Doesn't need an amp

Every over category n/a

Is this /g/ approved ?

https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=108&cp_id=10823&cs_id=1082302&p_id=8323&seq=1&format=2

>>52445990
They're durable as fuck. The clamp force though, is quite high, so they can be torturous to wear for long periods of time.
Great passive noice cancelling.
Soundstage is nonexistent.

>>52446627
no
but buy it and see what it sounds like faggot

>>52446627
If you have Amazon Prime might want to go for the $17 TASCAM TH-02s instead. No removable cable, but better sound quality.

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$28 from China on eBay. What are the odds they're fake as shit?

Why does /g/ keep recommending HD 558s over 598s even though the 598 has a larger frequency range?

>>52446792
poorfags think they are the same headphones

>>52442535
sudden price drops on amazon usually indicate fakes

>>52446766

50/50

Either it is or it isn't.

>>52446106
shure se215s

>>52443833
I'm not actually using aud I just figured that would be more helpful as an indicator. Normally I would buy online from home but I really want a pair for my return flight.

>>52441802

>player
Musicbee

>dac/amp
Lyr/Bifrost

>headphones
HE 560

Have I reached a reasonable endgame? are the LCD 2's an upgrade I should make or is the 560 about the best in the 1000 dollar range?

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>>52441802

>>52442535
Absolutely.
They are a bit bassy but that can be easily EQ'd if desired.

>>52444648
Expanded expecting eye-rape.
Wasn't disappoint.

>>52446766
If they aren't the anniversary edition or classic color scheme. They probably are.
I've only seen a few real white ones.

>>52446810
They literally have the same driver.

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Does anyone know of some open/ semi open Over-ear headphones with a similar response curve to my Fidelio L1's?

I love their sound, but I don't love the headband.

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>>52441802

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>$500 headphones
>only listen to anime music

>>52447973
Go to /mu/ then.
A lot of the board content is weirs ass shit tho

>>52447283
They're pretty good. My only problem with the LCD-2s is with their weight, I'm afraid to tilt my head when I'm wearing them. You should also try out MrSpeakers Ethers, if possible.

>>52444887
K7XX bass is enhanced and less tight/controlled, thus it might cover details in the midrange. If this is what you want, fine enough.

http://www.headfonia.com/review-fiio-m3-ultra-portable-audio/
Decent review, looks like sansa clip+ have its successor. Albeit more expensive though.

>>52444450
Well I found one used on amazon for $59 so I bought it, I assume that's a pretty good price.

My birthday is coming up.

Sony MDR7506 for 80$ or AKG K 240 for $66

Which is the better deal?

>>52447283
What don't you like about the 560? Or are you just wanting to try something new?
What all have you owned before the 560?

>>52448363
Sony

>>52448368
Thanks m8

>>52448363
>>52448368
K240s are better though

>>52448410
Superlux are better though.

>>52448410
How so?

>>52443786
Still here and I'm thinking.... Sennheiser 558? Should I get them? I think I want them.

>>52443786
You don't need a third pair.

>>52448462
Get 598s.

>>52443786
>>52448462
Perfect match for your shit taste.

>>52448485
no

>>52448497
okay wiseguy, suggest something then

Best IEM's with good sound isolation <$150 AUD?
They needa be able to stay in my ear when running too...

>>52448517
I'm serious.

>>52447973
Then listen to what stallman listens to: African chanting and tribal clicking.

>>52448363
>>52448447
What are you looking for in headphones? You should fill out the form before we answer

>>52448537
I have some Pygmy music that's actually quite good.

>>52448524
Xiaomi Piston 3s can be had for less than $15 and give you the best bang for your buck as far as IEMs.

http://www.gearbest.com/earphones/pp_169225.html

>>52448573
http://www.discogs.com/Baka-Forest-People-Heart-Of-The-Forest-/release/1795662
http://www.folkways.si.edu/mbuti-pygmies-of-the-ituri-rainforest/world/music/album/smithsonian
http://www.folkways.si.edu/aka-pygmy-music/world/music/album/smithsonian

>>52448559
Alright

>Budget
Nothing too pricey since I'm not paying. My gf is getting it for me for my birthday. Under $100 would be preferable. 80-90 range is ideal.
>Location
USA
>Source
2013 Macbook Pro mostly but occasionally my OnePlus One
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed preferably
>Comfort level
Preferably something I can have on for quite a long time. I like to listen to full albums in bed while I do work on PS. These cheap $30 Panasonic headphones I've been using for awhile are actually pretty comfy and are closed.
>Preferred music
I listen to alot of electro pop and hip hop. James Blake, Kanye West, Marina & the Diamonds are my most played these days.
>Past headphones
These cheap $30 Panasonic closed headphones I mentioned. They've actually served me quite well for how cheap they are.

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>>52444355
Moushikashite inu desu ka, anon-chan?

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>>52441802
>Budget
up to $500
>Location
Socal
>Source
Plugging these into my first amp which should be a Bottle Head Crack, but still not sure what should I go with amp wise just yet.
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Don't matter
>Comfort level
not important.
>Preferred tonal balance
emphasis on bass
>Preferred music
trance, electronic, acoustic guitar, wide range of music.
>Past headphones
sennheiser HD 280 Pro

So I hear great things about the AKG K702, but just basing it on a graph here, let's say our benchmark is an HD800, the HD700's look pretty close to 800's while the akg's lack in the bass & a bit in midrange.
I don't really know how much of a difference this graph is to listening to these cans in real life, since also my only headphone experience I've had are HD280's.

I like me some bass for sure, since a lot of my music is electronic, but also I listen to acoustic & film scores when working, so my music preference is all over the place. 800s seem to sound to accurate & sometimes annoying on many reviews i've seen so my best choice right now is the 700's or maybe 650's.

What do you guys think I should get?

>>52448818
Well if you're willing to try open headphones, try to get a pair of HD558s used/refurb/whatever for under $100; possibly the most worth it for comfort and sound. Open backed headphones generally have better sound, but obviously aren't isolating at all, so they aren't as good for portable/urban use.

If you want to stick with closed, MDR7506 are your best bet hands down.

Also, the K240s are open backed and you can find them for much cheaper than $80. Just looking on amazon, they have them for $68 new and even cheaper used.

>>52448865
I doubt that you can buy a HD800 or HD700 with that budget...maybe HD650 is more suitable to your needs.

Are the Superlux HD668b really any good, or are they a sort of poverty meme headphone?

>>52448363
>>52448883
My bad, I misread the K240 for $80, however you might still be able to get 7506s for cheaper than $80.

>>52448893
yeah not considering 800's, that's just meme money for a pair of cans for me.
I can pick up a the 700's for new, @ $400 so my budget covers that.

>>52448865
For amp and dac either a Schiit Magni/Modi or O2/ODAC.

K702 I really like.

If you want nigger bass go Sennheiser.

DT 880 are worth a look too.

>>52448917
>Schiit Magni
ahh yeah, forgot about those amps. those were also on my list.

As long as the nigger bass doesn't ruin the cans mid & treble, give me the meme bass m8.

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>>52448940
On a serious note I don't think the Senns sound bad. I thought you were just setting up a shitpost about AKGs.

I do prefer the K702s since I use them for everything form games to music. I like how they sound. They're analytical which is what I wanted. I really like their design and ear cups too. Very comfortable.

No experience with the DT880. Just throwing those out there.

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>>52448979
the DT880's look pretty good graph wise. Only down side is that cable's are not detachable, but I use my cans for editing mainly on video work, so it's not like I ever move them from my desk.

>>52446792
It doesn't have better extension.

>>52448865
HD 800 and HD 700 are bass shy and inaccurate. The HD 700 is especially bad. The HD 650 would be best option out of those.

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who tinnitus here

>>52447749
these are uncomfortable, and slightly tinny.

>>52448940
Coming back to what >>52448979
>>52448917 said, bear in mind that headphones with enhanced bass may be less detailed in the mids (or even in the treble) if bass isn't tight. Both HD600/650, DT880 and K702 are really great headphones, even though they sound quite different: the DT880 are slightly V-shaped, HD 600/HD 650 are warmer/more forgiving (the HD650 is bassier), K702 is colder/less forgiving and arguably more detailed.

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>>52449882
>The HD 650 would be best option out of those.

I hear great things out of the 650 too, that it's the most balanced.
Is the graph wrong? Cause both the 700's & 800's look to have more amplitude in the bass than the 650 does.
also there's a drop off right in the middle of the treble for the 650's.


>>52450189
well based on what both you guys said, either of the suggestions would work well for me.
I was leaning toward the 700's, but now I suppose it's either the 650's or the k702's. I think I'd choose barely the k702's since I've never really had detail before.

Is it fine to measure cans against a graph or how do you pick bass tightness & other factors that make your choice in headphones?

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>budget 300
>CA
>Galaxy S6
> Over The Ear
>close
>hella. comfy to the max.
>Warm powerful bass with well defined mid and high frequency ranges.
>Preferred music type : https://soundcloud.com/madeon/madeon-imperium
>Sony MDRXB1000, Vmoda m100, Bose Quiet Comfort 25.


I own a pair of Sony MDR XB1000, the cushions offer nice passive sound cancelling, they sound warm and can have some nice highs when equalized properly making cords and smaller details sound crisp and well defined.

I tried the Bose Quiet Comfort 15, the noise cancelling is very impressive and the fidelity is nice, the mic is cool and the replaceable ear cushions are neat, unfortunately it lacks the warmth that I've come to enjoy in my electronic music with the MDR XB1000.

I recently returned a pair of Vmoda m100 since the ear cups were very uncomfortable and the treble sounded horrible, a shame really the build quality was nice.

I have a friend who owns a pair of Audio Technicas, they are very nice but I enjoy more warm headphones rather than neutrals.


I've been recommended a pair of AKGs and Sennheiser but I forget which ones, what do you guys recommend? I'd like to have something with good fidelity on the warm side.

replaceable cables would be nice.

>>52450249
I think we're both looking for basically the same thing anon.

>tfw fidelios

Not looking to buy new headphones at the moment, but I'm wondering what tonal balance I prefer. I tend to listen to Baroque music and Yugoslav War Music. Examples of the latter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq_J2C6Hrz0, https://vimeo.com/74583703, http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9-mYg5VDzQ

I also play a lot of shooters, meaning gunshots and explosions, if that means anything.

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Got AKG K702

Tell me what to expect

Never had high-end headphones before.

My most expensive item in sound category is SoundMagic E10 earbuds

Please tell me I didn't fuck up

>>52450797
you didnt get memed, you will most likely expect to be blown away by the increased sound quality if all you had before was shit.

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>>52450797
EQ them and laugh at HD600 kids and their small soundstage

>>52445305

Why this man is experiencing intense pleasure right now? What kind of sound demon does that?

>>52450244
> I think I'd choose barely the k702's since I've never really had detail before.
The reproduction of details is due also to the quality of your recording. AKG is very accurate, then if, let's say, the guitarist is keeping the microphone very close to his guitar during the recording, the AKG is going to make you hear every little slide or prick on the chords. This thing still amazes me even though I've been listening to music on my AKG for a month every day. This can be a downside though: if your recording suck, the K702 is going to make it sound horrible, while it's going to make your recording shine if it's done well. That's why I was saying that the K702 is less forgiving. One more thing I should also mention about the K702 is its spacious sound, which is a great plus for acoustic recordings featuring many instruments. If you listen to a live recording, you may be able to tell if it was made in an auditorium, or a club or an arena based on the reverberations of sound (especially voices and drums).
>Is it fine to measure cans against a graph or how do you pick bass tightness & other factors that make your choice in headphones?
Yes, but measurements can be really different and they won't tell you much about bass tightness or details. The best thing you can do is get different heapdhones and test them yourself.

>>52450797
You did well dude. What you should expect from your K702 is a clear and balanced sound. The bass may sound a bit underwhelming to you at the beginning, but it will sound more detailed and accurate. Do you have an amp to drive them?

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>>52443796
who is this sociopath? I must fap.

>>52441802
Has anyone else worn out their expensive headphones? I'd like to hear about what parts start to go on the popular models.

I have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro's. The cable at the headphone end has worn through and is now frayed. I repaired it with some heatshrink.
The piece of steel attaching the cup to the headband has a notched T shape piece of steel that allows you to adjust the headband. The notching is too shallow so the cup slips. In addition the cross on the "T" is really narrow, so it and the really shitty plastic housing has worn out, so now the cup falls off on one side. I fixed it by overtighening the screws, but that will cause damage to the housing.
Also the pads wore out in no time.

Its only 4 years old, is there anything more durable?
Also I've noticed that some guitar cables have a large metal spring at the end of the cables which looks like it adds a lot of durability. Does anything come with that?

>>52450888
What are the headphones on the bottom? My friend had a pair of them.

>>52450249
Sony MDR-1A. Comfy, really.

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>>52451218

>>52451250
ATH-AD700

>>52451056

I do have Fiio Fujiyama (E06) nothing special really.

>>52451267
What amp is that sexy beast?

>>52451312
In case you feel like the volume isn't loud enough, try a Fiio E10k. But your Fiio E6 should be enough.

>>52451332
1981 pioneer sa 620

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>Budget
I'm willing to shell out 80€ but 50-60€ would be preferable

>Location
Europe (France)

>Source
Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Surround 5.1 or very rarely, my old ass Daewoo hifi system (pic related)

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
As long as I can wear my glasses, anything goes

>Preferred music
Mostly animu/vidya soundtracks with some classical music, very little vocals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSJKVfDNYIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxCdyss9Rr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC_bQMJsMl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOao5xYf8Oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk5Q7ALNQpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEbfDtDaUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkZ3AuDbDDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__uWvBsbVIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkMMkKZBpe0

>Past headphones
MEE audio Sport-Fi M6 (I use these when I exercise)
Koss Porta Pro (not bad but I'd prefer not hearing anything from the outside)

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>>52441802

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>>52451356
I see. Thanks for input

What do you guys think of ATH-A900x headphones, I've been looking to buy a decent pair of headphones, and they're the same price as the M50x where I am.

>>52451596
They're a class better than the m50s

>Budget
$130AUD ($70~USD)
>Location
Australia
>Source
LG G3, PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
As long as it doesn't hurt :^)
Sacrificing some comfort is fine as long as sound quality is better
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy (I don't really know)
>Preferred music
Rap/Hip-Hop, a little Electronic (eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQSi33FJZM4)
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX150, Corsair Vengance 2100

Thanks /g/

>>52451625
Ok, because they are only 200 AUD on ebay and it seems like a good deal.

>>52451635
People say that they offer a huge soundstage and very clear sound, but they lack bass. They're totally different from the M50X, which are closed and bassy.

>>52450927
>>52445502
>>52445305
I can't tell if your replies are being posted sarcastically, or you just don't understand sarcasm at all.

>>52450244
As a note, try not to use smoothed graphs. The differences can be important.

>both the 700's & 800's look to have more amplitude in the bass than the 650 does.
They're somewhat known for being V-shaped headphones. Pads affects the response a bit, not sure how this is reflected in the measurements here.
>how do you pick bass tightness
A large enough boost around the 150-300 Hz region is a general indicator of murky sound and cloudiness.

>>52451056
>This can be a downside though: if your recording suck, the K702 is going to make it sound horrible
I'm not that guy but I listen to a lot of shitty mastered/mixed/recorded stuff.
Could you guys recommend me some "forgiving cans"? Under 100Ohm if possible.

>>52451761
The a900x's are closed anon, they're supposed to have a similar amount of bass from the reviews I've read.

>>52451844
>I'm not that guy but I listen to a lot of shitty mastered/mixed/recorded stuff.
You could solve this thing easily by changing your music tastes a bit and getting better stuff.
>Could you guys recommend me some "forgiving cans"?
Generally speaking, good headphones aren't very forgiving. Still, there are some good forgiving headphones. Do you want open or closed headphones?
> under 100ohm
Why? Don't make the common mistake to believe that high impedance = difficult to drive.

>>52452003
Sorry, I read ATH AD900X.

So a good while ago I got these Takstar HI2050 as a gift, I really liked these. Today they got obliterated, don't even ask what happened.

Now I'm trying to find some cans quick. I really liked those.

So with my 50€ I decided to just walk down to the nearest store and I saw these two:

Sennheiser HD203
Sennheiser HD 419
Sony MDRXB450APR

Among other headphones which seemed more suitable for gaming but I guess those suck some dick.

So let's say I had these three choices. Which would be closer to those takstar? I know that I can't get such quality but I want at least some comfort.

>>52452026
>open or closed headphones?
Doesn't matter to me. I want it for home listening so Open should be fine.
>Why under 100ohm?
I only have a fiio E10K and I don't want to get further into the craze.

>Budget
200$ +/-
>Location
Europe
>Source
PC sound card.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
I'm used to closed headphones, so probably that.
>Comfort level
Rather high, cause I can listen through albums for hours
>Preferred tonal balance
Mostly neutral, I'm not that much of a basshead who'd want a boomy bass, but some bass would be nice.
>Preferred music
Classic rock, progrock, blues and other stuff.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser RS-160, they broke lol.
Been looking at A900X and DT 770 Pro, but some say that the latter ones are too bassy for the types of music I listen to.

>>52451844
>Could you guys recommend me some "forgiving cans"?
That's pretty much the FR. So-called "shitty recordings" are just called that from poorly managed sibilants, distortion/clipping, gain ranging in production and so on.

>Under 100Ohm if possible.
>I only have a fiio E10K and I don't want to get further into the craze.
Really not how that works. This is a function of sensitivity in voltage. Ignore impedance as is relates to sensitivity.

Will it make much of a difference to get an AMP for 80 ohms headphones?

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>>52452141
It doesn't work like that but which headphones?

>>52452220
DT770 Pro

>>52452351
it doesn't need a amp

>>52452351
No, but:

-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, then that is your answer.

What's the next step from HD600? I have an O2+ODAC.

>>52452415
K702

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Why does Audio-Technica even bother with these shitty headphones? All of their expensive ones are just trash.

http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&document_srl=5869725

>>52452415
EQ

>>52452430
The goal with them pricey ATs is not the accuracy, but sounding different. The ATH Wood series is an clear example of that.

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>>52441882
I just got my subpac yesterday and love it. The build quality is excellent, too.

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What would one need to build a headphone measurement rig?

>>52441802
So my brother got his akg 702's today and they are pretty good, I have a pair of takstars and for £30 the are great too. convince me NOT to buy the 702's, are there any headphones that are clearly better for less than £200?

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>>52449909
Me, I got an ear infection from re-using disposable ear buds to help me sleep and now have tinnitus, fucking great.

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>>52452796
Nice. I use my SubPac with my Staples office chair hooked up to my ASUS laptop and Philips Fidelio X2 headphones. It feels great.

>>52452879
>What would one need to build a headphone measurement rig?
A mounting fixture plate and a mic.

The difficulty with measurements lies mainly in

-Obtaining data that is repeatable and reproducible
-Data that relates to the intended user, the mean human ear
-Acquiring easily and expediently measured data

>>52452128
Okay but I still didn't get any recs for forgiving cans as opposed to the detailed k702.

>>52448363
the sony is a better headphone. it competes with the best headphones in terms of detail. the k240 isn't bad but it's really just an overpriced 668b now.

>>52453294
I'm saying that "analytical" or "forgiving" are not aspects of the headphone that should be taken as a given. These would match up with peaks and dips in FR, which can be adjusted out.

Stereotypical "forgiving" would be something like HD650 or ATH-R70x.

>>52453416
>which can be adjusted out
So how do you learn to EQ properly? Is there a guide or just go by ear?

>>52452992
>I'm retarded
>boohoo
you're as bad as that guy that felt bad in his ear but decided not to go to the doctor, and when he did it was too late

>>52453784
I blame nobody but my self, shut the fuck up you prat.

>>52453473
The point is not to create a binaural simulation, especially given the lack of binaural audio, so it is really all about what the listener wants. That was the point of buying a nicer headphone, right?

Most guides boil down to doing it by ear, in a more methodical manner than randomly throwing in boosts and dips with a parametric EQ. This is one example of such a guide:
>http://www.head-fi.org/t/794467/

Boosts and dips are made by adjusting a parametric EQ ideally. A parametric EQ is an equalizer in which you define the frequency and frequency level you want to affect, besides the level. Equalizer APO is an example of a software based system-wide EQ for Windows with a parametric EQ.
Dips and peaks are identified by sine sweep, noise bursts, and other reference signals.
Or by taking a measurement, you would plot the divergence of the response from a target curve, then remove it and see if you like that result.

Each point of adjustment you make is made by a filter, and the primary filters you will need are peaking (resonant) filters and shelf filters. There are many other types of filters, but they are used mostly for music production or electronic design, they don't have much use for adjusting the sound of a headphone.

Resonant filters have a center frequency and Q factor/octave bandwidth that you adjust. The center frequency is the frequency that the main effect is focused on, the bandwidth sets how large a range it affects. Bandwidth and Q factor both refer to the range of a filter, but unlike octave range the Q factor is a description of the "narrowness" of the filter, for lack of a better term.
Shelf filters are the tone controls, the bass and treble knobs of old. They affect everything generally above or below the frequency center of the filter. Q/octave refers to the transition range of the shelf

Pre-amp/digital gain adjustment must be made for the EQ, to avoid clipping. It needs to be at least much as the largest boost made to avoid distortion.

What audio formats do you guys use?

>>52454299
FLAC

>>52454299
opus

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At home, I used to use my Sennheiser HD650 with the Headroom Micro Amp + DAC Package.
I stopped using this setup.
Now I use my Philips Fidelio X2 at home.

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>>52453123
I don't know a thing about mics but after some searching people seem to use omnidirectional condenser measurement mics and even the cheaper options seem to do really well. The possible ear coupler and achieving consistent seal and position of the headphones on the measurement rig will be a bit challenging. Some DIY measurement rigs seem to use some kind of acoustic foam around the mic capsule with a small area around the mic left bare. Might be better to get materials, build and experiment. Been thinking of getting a measurement mic for loudspeaker room response correction for a while now and the same mic would work fine for a simple headphone measurement rig.

>Data that relates to the intended user, the mean human ear
Accuracy in this would be hard to do I imagine.

>>52454299
Mostly lossless and a vast majority of those are in FLAC. I try to get the highest quality format available.

>>52441802
Lads i have a pair of those branwav velour ear pads, will they fit on the akg 702?, can you even change the pads on them?

Could anyone sum up the differences between the HD558 - 598 - 600 and 650?

What genres of music would you recommend to listen with the DT770?

>>52454502
they can be changed but the brainwav pads wont fit

>>52454515
Something with a lot of sub-bass

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>>52454161
Hey, not sure if you knew about this already, but apparently Hifiman's PR department in http://hifiman.com/articles/detail/366 has no idea what they are doing.

The new 2.5mm revision of the 400i also removed the backplate for the drivers. Not sure if this change would make it easier for a hair or something to get in and cause rattling.

>>52454505
HD 558 and HD 598 are essentially the same headphones. There are tiny differences in frequency response of both headphones as they use the same drivers. HD 558 has a piece of foam blocking the driver from the backside. Supposedly removing this foam makes them exactly like the HD 598.

HD 600 has better frequency response extension than the HD 5x8-series, lower distortion and generally more neutral response. It clamps more and is less sensitive so you might need an amplifier with it. It's all around higher fidelity than the lower end models but tonality is still very similar, close to neutral.

HD 650 is very close to the HD 600 but it has a bit better extension in the bass and the tonality is warmer aka It has more bass in amplitude and less treble. Build wise everything between the HD 650 and HD 600 is replaceable and interchangeable. HD 650 is about as sensitive as the HD 600 so it might need an amplifier.

>>52454515
Whatever you like.

>>52454660
how many of you have a headphone stand or something?

If so, what/which do you use?

>>52454700
I have Omega stands for headphones I don't really use, Sennheiser HH-10 thingy attached to the side of my desk but most of the time I just lay my headphones on the desk as I keep using them all the time.

What are the best headphones for mid-heads sub $500?

And don't say AKG, I'm not trying to listen to dad rock.

>>52454622
interesting. yeah, it did seem to just creep up rather than be there from the beginning. it does have a really fine net thing right underneath the larger "O grate" thats the first line of defense, like the image though. i dont know how easy it would have been for a hair to get in there and cause it, but ill definitely take another look and think about it all. theyre still on rma, but didnt feel like having to change the pic in the future

>>52454750
You gotta go planar for that. Look into the Hifiman lineup.

>>52454544
Thanks, damn, I might just give them to my dad to put on the takstars I gave him.

>>52454750
Both HD 650 and HD 600 have a very smooth midrange.

>>52454750
grado is the dad rock meme
akg is for anime
sennheiser is for people that like their sound veiled and headphones to break
beyerdynamic is for ear rape treble and having remorse about buying them

to name a few

>>52454732
how much did you pay for the omega stand?
I remember it being expensive as fuck but now I see it on amazon for 25

>>52454807
60 a piece. I have two.

>>52454750
400i

>>52454700
I recently got this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016VU6K3S?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00


It's cheap but looks really nice when the headphones are sitting on them, they don't look as good as the wooden ones people have but they are much easier to take off/put on

>>52454834
>hey anon, why do you have a huge dildo on your desk?

>>52454431
>Accuracy in this would be hard to do I imagine.
Boy is it ever, even the dummy heads for tens of thousands of dollars struggle. There are many publications about this problem, and some of them are linked on the /g/wiki.

https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wA

>to use omnidirectional condenser measurement mics
It works fine if you calibrate the mic, not that hard to do. A 1/2 inch condenser mic has some similarities to the ear drum, but any other small mic on a plate will do.
The foam adds a slight amount of damping and provides a soft and compliant surface for the headphone, much like skin and flesh. Then again, a real head has contours that create gaps with bone and cartilage that don't flex as well as soft foam.
Plate spacing to get the pressure the headband provides, at a slight angle.

>>52454834
Forgot to mention that the logo in the pictures is just a sticker which comes off easily, I put a bit of bluetack underneath to keep the stand in place, it works great.

>>52454878
Not sure what dildos you've been looking at m8

>>52454803
Which is exactly why you don't waste time with dynamics past $300.

>>52454778
I'm assuming it's a good thing overall from http://www.head-fi.org/t/698974/hifiman-he-400i-impressions-and-discussion/6210#post_12170416

But I don't understand why companies like Hifiman and Audeze keep making tons of revisions. Trying to improve the sound is nice, but I would assume this practice drives away people from buying new releases.

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>>52454922
fuck I only saw the first two pictures
I was confused how the fuck it'd work

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I'm looking for both new earphones and a microphone, and I was hoping to find one device that does both these things well. I'm looking for the cheapest device that surpasses the Monoprice 9927 in audio quality, and has a better microphone than the Zalman ZM-MIC1 built-in.

>Budget
The Monoprice 9927 and the Zalman ZM-MIC1 would together cost me 30 euros, but I can be convinced to spend a bit more.

>Location
The Netherlands.

>Source
My PC, or rather the Logitech Z523 speakers attached to it.

>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs.

>Comfort level
It doesn't matter. I've used the Monoprice 9927, which are known to have comfort issues, but I didn't really mind it.

>Preferred music
The Mars Volta, new-wave, indie rock, punk rock, doom metal, and classical music.

>Past headphones
- Monoprice 9927
- Koss SparkPlug

>>52454883
Yeah I'll have to read through those papers. Ordered a dbx RTA-M. It's quite compact, found measurements of it and it seems to do well in them. The head of the mic is just 1cm across so I guess I could measure in-ears with it too fairly easily by just using a small elastic tube.

>>52454949
Not like planars or electrostats are any better in general.

>>52455064
I don't think there's any in ears I've ever heard about that have a good mic

If you can wait consider the piston 3 if you like bass

>>52454803
>>52454949

Are you serious? I'm about to buy some dynamics as my first pair in the $150 range, I don't want to feel remourse :<

>>52455021
lel fair enough

>>52455076
>Not like planars or electrostats are any better in general.
They are though.

>>52455191
I fail to see how.

>>52454974
hm, i dunno. i think i would prefer they keep making revisions, but while doing that, they need to make sure that if something wrong happens (like with me, especially if its the cause of a revision) that i can get a speedy replacement.

it hasnt been fast at all for me. it took me about 5 days (from first email to them to the day i got an rma code from the support guy). he then told me to give them the shipping code from fedex so they could prepare a ready-to-go package for me the same day they got mine, which i did. i came home, and emailed the tracking code same day. they did acknowledge it, but on the day fedex told me the shipment was completed, i emailed them and a day later they told me they didnt even know they got it, and they would simply give me a tracking number as soon as they were able to. its only been 2 days since then, but still, they seem to be pretty busy i suppose.

>>52455146
im the guy that posted the sum of memes here >>52454803
and i dont subscribe to the beyer one at all. i was just talking about the meme. i have dt880s on my head right now

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>>52454622
Sounds kinda pointless to make it into 2.5mm. Could of just kept the screw on, but made it easier to tighten.

>>52455321
Well, 2.5mm is a lot more convenient to attach/detach than any screw, and you're no longer reliant on Hifiman's proprietary cables since it's a standard connector.

>>52455369
True, more variety the better. I guess I got too fond over the screw mechanic. Is there news of their new stuff after CES? Any updates to the next gen version of the 400 or 500 series?

>>52455406
the only news i know if is an electrostatic he1000 looking phone

>>52454750
AKG K702, dont be a faggot

>>52455321
noice

>>52454660
Very detailed response, thanks.
> HD 558 has a piece of foam blocking the driver from the backside. Supposedly removing this foam makes them exactly like the HD 598.
So if I get the cheaper 558 I can make it into a 598 (soundwise) by removing this foam? Do they sound better that way than without removing the foam?

>>52455146
What are you on about? I said dynamics are a waste of time past the $300 diminishing returns point.

>>52455547
he probably thinks you mean the company, beyerdynamic, instead of dynamic type transducers.

>>52455321
Where's your manga waifu from?

>>52455528
Get the philips shp9500 and save your money, sennsheiser is shit

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Dudduruu ^

>>52455607
>shp9500
Looks comfy, how's it's sq?

>>52455754
Get the sennheiser hd558 and save your money, phillips is shit

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>>52451485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgOe4eqxkQc

Forgot to add I also had a pair of Sennheiser CX 300-II but those broke way too fast and they kinda sounded off compared to the M6.

>>52455802
MDR-V6 or 7506 (same thing, get whichever is cheaper), though they may be less bass-heavy than what you're used to.

Other options are M40x and XPT100.

>>52447591
>10Ohm soundcard
>cheap tubular
its like you WANT bad sound

>>52455873
well, he has grados with it. i bet he also has software eq on just for the fuck of it

>>52455802
well first you should find some higher quality music, try this
https://a.uguu.se/nnddri_AmazingGrace.opus

>>52451485
>>52455802
HD439. Mostly neutral all rounder with tasteful bass, replaceable cable / earpads.
Beware if you have jumbo ears though, the earpads on this are for small / medium sized ears.

>>52445917
Bro, just get some beats desu

>>52445917
400i

>>52455754
better than sennshill garbage, just get the philips these faggots are trying to meme you into buying a shit headphone

>>52445917
ATH-MSR7 or Oppo PM-3

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>>52455798

>>52456250
im just memeing man, dont worry

>>52455667
Noice i'm using my brother's 702's through my e10k right now. I just bought a pair of 702's an hour ago ;).

Do you ever use bass boost with that combo?, do you use an equalizer?, if so which one m8.

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>>52455597
Oyasumi Punpun, Nanjou Sachi. Amazing Manga if you haven't read it yet. Though be warned it is more depressing then EVA when it comes to atmosphere and plot.

>>52455528
They are nearly identical even without the foam mod and I remember seeing measurements contradicting the notion that foam actually does something. I can't comment on which is better because they are so very close and depending on the source of measurements available, one looks better than the other and vice versa on different sites. Due to the similarity, HD 558 is recommended over HD 598 here all the time. HD 598 is worse value but still a good headphone.

>>52456332
>Do you ever use bass boost with that combo?
No, I feel that the bass is more than good already

> do you use an equalizer?
I really like the natural sound out of my K702 for now.

How do you like the K702?

>>52449998
I use same player and same headphones, just an e10k amp/dac though

>>52456484
Very nice, I previously only had a pair of takstar 2050's which are incredible for the price and my brother used to have dt770's, they both sounded very similar in my opinion. The 702's sound so clean though, it's especially noticeable when playing my midi keyboard. The only problem is that i'm not keen on the build quality, it's a bit too plastic for my liking but i'm never going to wear them outside anyway so it doesn't really bother me.

>>52448524
>>52448607
Piston 3s are pretty sweet for the price, but they don't isolate that well due to the vented design. You might still hear some traffic when the music isn't turned up all the way.

They have almost no microphonics though, so that's pretty ideal for running.

I find them less tight-fitting than the Senn CX 200 that I run with, but that may depend on your ear shape.

>>52455944
>>52455863

Thanks for the suggestions, those are a bit pricier than what I had in mind but they also look quite sturdy.

>>52455932

Anon please, I'm not dumb enough to actually listen to music from youtube.

>>52456998
I ran with my p3's before and it wasn't a great experience, they are some of the loosest fitting earphones in my experience, they are great otherwise.

>>52451485
AKG K240

>>52457014
how would i have any idea about the amount of intelligence one particular anon has over another

>>52455076
>those papers
Some examples:

-Characterizing the Frequency Response of Headphones—A New Paradigm
-ISO 11904
-Magnitude and Phase Response Measurement of Headphones at the Eardrum
-Improved Measurement of Leakage Effects

>>52452992
>not playing Robert Rich's Somnium through comfortable IEMs to go to sleep every night

>>52457255
I would not be able to sleep listening to music, I have never been that guy.

Do you guys wear full cans outside?

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How's the sound quality on these things? Are they fucking terrible like I would expect?

>>52457425
I never have and never will, 90% of the time people look like fucking idiots, just wear nice iem's outside like the Piston 3's of the KZ ED9's

>>52457425
I used them as earmuffs for winter cold. Even open headphones work well at this, and it gives you something to listen to while shoveling snow.

>>52457425
I've worn xb700s outside before. But usually I just wear plugs because massive cd sized pillows on the sides of my head look ridiculous.

Black Edition DT-990 Pro for $130 again, get on it http://www.ebay.com/itm/371488752233

>>52442805
ath ad700x

>all these fucking bozos paying way over the odds for headphones that ultimately dont make a difference

>>52457431
why, you want to buy some for your sister so you have some pics to fap to?

>>52457528
This.

I just found a pair of old Sony in ear headphones, cheap ones. Guess what, I was thinking of buying some fancy "IEMs" like Shure se215, but these old sony babes are good enough to listen my non-flac music. And they sound awesome, good bass, good mids, nice highs. I'm so happy I don't have to spend money on placebo gear.

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Anyone try these, how comfortable are they?

>>52451091
how fucking new are you?

>>52457431
S H I T
H
I
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>>52457549
That's exactly what I planned to do, yeah. And I wanted her to have good quality headphones to drown out the sound of my fapping.

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Which are the absolute niggerest headphones?

>>52455321
How do you find the K550's?

>>52457685
Beats

>>52457685

The stolen headphones.

>>52457663
yeah thats why i bought them so i figured you too probably

>>52457636
That's unfortunate, but exactly what I would expect. I just read a review where a guy said they were worse than his $20 Sony headphones.

>>52457692
Unbearably big to lug around outside, sound great in movies/games as far as closed go but if you're going to buy a pair of inside headphones may as well go for open.
Unless you live with your parents or something, there are better options.

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>>52457425
Outside, I used to wear my Sennheiser Momentum headphones.
Now if I'm outside the house, I don't use headphones.
I want situational awareness. I don't want to get hit by a car and I don't want to get mugged.
If I walk around outside, I use my Jawbone Mini Jambox speaker and connect it to my smartphone by Bluetooth.

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>>52455873
>>52455884
Come on guys, it's not that bad.

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>>52458004
You wear your headphones on your eyes or something faggot?

>Budget
Preferably around 50-100$, can spend more if the gain is big.
>Location
Norway
>Source
My hugeass reciever
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed, doesn't matter that much.
>Comfort level
Good; ill be wearing them for most of my day.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral I guess.
>Preferred music
Classical, animu music, etc.
>Past headphones
A few shitty headsets

>>52457590
>these old sony babes are good enough to listen my non-flac music
You are not missing much. The purpose of FLAC is having a bit exact copy of your CD for backup purposes, not higher hearable quality. Just don't download shitty transcoded mp3's.

>>52458066
im sure it's decent enough. but were not in this thread to attain decent enough. among the things we would argue about thread to thread, whether or not tube amps are inferior is -not- up for discussion. they have no use at all. if you want a warmer sound, a software eq is in literal fact a better way to get it.

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>>52458084
With headphones - open or closed, you can't hear your surroundings.
That's called being in condition white.
So when I'm outside, I'd use my bluetooth portable speaker.

>>52458114
if it doesnt matter, you want open... are you sure you still want closed?

>>52458182
I'd prefer closed, but it doesn't matter that much.

>>52458167
well no. with open, you in fact can hear your surroundings just fine, depending on your volume. just leave them low to average and you would be good. open headhones on loudly wouldnt mask your surroundings any more than your speaker on loud

>>52458197
i dont know your prices there but some closed would be the mdr 7506. for open try shp9500 or hd558

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>>52458167
It must suck living in nigeria where you die if you're not "aware of your surroundings"
I'm sure you're a really cool dude blasting your anime shit on a BT speaker tho.

>>52458167
Why would you wear audiophile type headphones if you need to hear your surroundings in the first place?
Why would you wear headphones in the first place?

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>>52458226
Yes, you are right.
I could use open headphones on low, but I'd rather do noise pollution with my portable speaker.

>>52458228
I don't have my anime and video game music on my phone.
I only have The Beatles and Today's Hits on my phone.
Also, Pic Related.

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>>52458327
> All this edge
You're scaring the children please stop it

>>52441802
>>52441849
>>52443713
>>52444648
>>52447591
>>52449998
>>52451267

I made you guys an editable template for your OP pic

answerthings [dot] tk/#/fillgrid/NkxbRqQue

Feel free to make a different one

Full disclaimer, I made the site, feature requests welcome

>>52458375
toggle size just makes it fit so there are no borders? what downscaler are you using to fit the image?

>>52458420
it just toggles between background size cover or contain at the moment

>>52458375
>.tk
anyway
Add waifu, make it so that it does not generate empty fields in the final image, multiple file support for album

>>52458471
>.tk
I know
you can make your own template! check the link at the top, I was thinking of adding render options to the bottom, not showing empty fields should be easy to do, how would multiple files appear in one box? in a grid?

>>52457431
FUG

I wish I was Japanese so I could wear these

>>52458562
>in a grid?
yeah just stack next/under eachother and scale accordingly to the box

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>>52458299
What?
I only use headphones in my home and I don't use headphones outside.

>>52458355
I'm a /k/ anon, this is how we are.
Pic related.

>>52451769
>>52451056

If I wanted more power in the bass, with the 702's, couldn't I just eq the bass a bit, or does that ruin it?

I'm so on the fence about either the Sennheiser 650's, vs the akg 702's because of my heavy electronica bass music preference.

Then again if I can have a nice tight & uber clear bass in the 702's, then maybe I don't need nigger bass that I'm looking for in the 650's since I've never heard true bass quality before.

I need to find a headphone store that can let me test run a few models. I'm sure I can find one here in LA.

>>52458562
also, ability to scale the size of each box would be nice as well. i think what the other guy wants is the ability to put album art in a grid fashion in one box. ability to make boxes bigger would also be pretty much required i think.

>>52458114
AKG K240

>>52457425
I don't want people to hear my weeb music so I can't wear open and I don't want to get driven over by a car so I can't wear closed

I usually just use earbuds that don't go in ear or cheap on ears

>Budget
100$
>Location
US
>Source
desktop pc
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
Closed or semi-closed
>Comfort level
don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Past headphones
sony mdr-xb500

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>>52441802
only the best obviously.

>>52458660
if you were actually serious about what you were saying, you would not wear anything. youre not being genuine to yourself, let alone us

>>52458672
mdr 7506

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Question: I plug my PC straight into my Yamaha amplifier via the 3.5mm output. I get a great sound on my set up, but do you think I would benefit with using a 3rd party DAC? Also would there be a benefit in using a USB output to my amplifier?

>>52458228
I live in belgium and I had a crazy looking old guy try to grab me and pull a knife
fuck that shit

>>52458679
did reckful rec you those? lol

>>52458672
Takstar pro 80

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>>52457425
HD 7 DJ are my outside headphones. If I'm walking through a high transit area with a lot of traffic I lower the volume and move the left earpad like pic related so I can have some awareness of what's going on. If I'm on a dangerous part of town I don't bring them outside or put them away on my bag.
If I'm on a bus or walking through a calm neighborhood or just killing time in my uni I put both earcups on.

>>52458646
>heavy electronica bass music
DT770 80ohm. the sub bass on that is immense

>>52458700
you dont know much of what youre talking about, let me see what i can do here

>I plug my PC straight into my Yamaha amplifier via the 3.5mm output.
as in, 3.5mm out from your computers onboard to your receiver, which then goes to your headphones?

>but do you think I would benefit with using a 3rd party DAC?
probably not, but the receiver is probably not worth doing unless you need more volume

>Also would there be a benefit in using a USB output to my amplifier?
this doesnt make sense at all. an amplifier alone does not accept a digital signal. it can only amplify one that is already analog

>>52458660

Just look around. Do you live in India?

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>>52458375
Any way to make it reformat to get rid of things you leave blank? Also, adding the ability for custom backgrounds like >>52456917 did would be cool.

>>52458811
>>52458355
Never mind, just noticed the grid option.

>>52458619
>>52458327
>I'm a /k/ anon, this is how we are.

Slappers only airshitter detected.

>>52458761
>look around
>just always look behind you and to your sides at all time
>oops anon guess you didn't see that car, enjoy being in the hospital for a week

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Wow, you must work at Richer Sounds or something... Thanks, I guess.

>>52458968
who is that aimed at?

>>52458646
I would not call HD650 bass as nigerbass, but it's surely more powerful than K702 (a bit too powerful in my opinion). K702 bass is definitely enjoyable and even punchy imo and it's really tight. The sub-bass lacks a bit of impact, however it's better than the X2 and it doesn't sound like rolled-off at all to me. I really love the feeling when low frequencies shake my head. Overall, K702 bass is detailed and pleasant: I swear that I'm able to distinguish between an electronic and an acoustic bass in some songs based on the different the chords' vibrations. As for electronic music, I listen to a lot of Kraftwerk, Schulze and other composers and the K702 are really good for that.
As for testing, you can always order some headphones from Amazon and return the one you don't like back.

>>52458375
A one box, 2+ images kind of thing would be cool. Also seconding >>52458811.

>>52458581
You'll look like a dingus no matter what you are.

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>>52458910
Yes, I'm an airshitter.
I live in Shitcago, Faillinois and its ridiculously hard to be able to conceal carry a firearm legally.
It's easier just to every day carry a tactical pocket knife.

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>>52459044
Save image thing doesn't seem to work very well either.

>>52459023
alright well I'm definitely more swayed into the 702's now anon.
Even so I could eq the bass a tiny bit if I wanted without ruining the sound image right?

>>52459023
By the way, what do you think of the 712's?

Are they meme expensive with diminishing returns, or worth the extra $$$?

>>52459138
as long as you eq it correctly by adding proper negative pre-amp equal or greater than the strongest bump you added at any frequency

>>52459157
theyre not just expensive, theyre worse. no one should consider them

Budget - ~ 100usd
Location - Freedom land
Source - phone
Preferred type of headphone - IEMs
Comfort level - does not matter , needs to stay in when running
Preferred tonal balance - bassy
Past headphones - SoundMAGIC E10 Noise Isolating In-Ear Earphones (BlackGunmetal)

I really want bluetooth headphones , I was looking at the Jaybird x2 or one of the thousand 20 usd ones on amazon. Thoughts?

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>>52459158
how do I do that?
I'd be using a Schiit Magni/Modi to power them.

>>52459157
Never tried the K712. From the measurements they don't look better than the K702. I heard some people here say that the K712 are coloured K702.
As for EQ see >>52459158

>>52459186
with software like apo equalizer. can also install peacegui with it if youre intimidated by its interface.