>>52437758 I had to fix Android code written in some Qualcomm dev center in India once.
It was fucking horrible. It's as if someone took the device's specs and gave it to a bunch of monkeys that barely understood basic structured programming, could only produce some kind of C code because the compiler told them where to fix stuff and if they understood how blocks and indentation are supposed to interact, they must have not cared too much.
The solution they had arrived at basically worked with one specific kernel that presented the hardware in one specific order and it was still almost unreadable because of the insanely long functions, bizarre logic and strange variable naming.
>>52437758 I certainly do not, we had an indian tech in the XP to W7 x64 upgrade project a few years ago (15000 computers) and damn he was good, he learned me (and i was good to begin with) how to sign drivers and modify old and faulty inf-files so they were signable in W7 x64.
Ok i learned him a few things too but still he learned me a lot and i am glad i met him.
>>52437758 >expect to be spoonfed >believe that politeness is more important than correctness >will never get to heart of a problem, will attack the surface of the problem in 100 different ways >overly reliant on the structure of dev tools, cannot think outside of the box
the worst i can say about them is that a lot seem insecure of themselves, and when in management positions seem ethnocentric. i also don't like the H1B visa ordeal, but that is more the fault of kikes than it is them.
otherwise, i find them to generally be pleasant, and loyal once you develop friendships with them. but there are so many here in tech, along with Chinese, that it's hard not to make a few friends with any of them.
also, aside from these Asians, this area is full of disgusting homeless people, with surrounding low-income areas of beaners and niggers, so i welcome Pajeet and Chen if they're going to gentrify the trash out.
>>52437758 Because they feel entitled to western jobs and act smugly like the're very smart and whatnot, while in reality the only reasons they are even being considered viable employees by western companies is how much cheaper they are, and how much general quality standards have gone down (it would be unthinkable for western tech companies to hire Indians en masse 20 or 30 years ago, the customers' reaction to the resulting quality drop of products and services would easily have made them go bust).
>>52437758 Companies use Indians for computing like manufactory, and agriculture industries use Mexicans. As a source of Cheap labor. That being said they more likely than not when through shit schooling for it, and have little of the understanding that most people in the field do.
This is not to say that many of them are well qualified, and good. I guess it's a case of too many bad apples though.
>>52437758 Because their accents don't translate into English (Murrikan or British) very well for some reason. I don't have this problem with any other non-native English speakers, but for some reason it just ends up sounding like them droning on with the same cadence and tone the whole time. Which is a big deal when supposedly most of face to face communication is not in the words.
They also come from a much older and higher context culture and much of the complaining comes from people who work with these immigrants in very low context (engineering, CS) environments, in an already low context country, doing things that don't involve who you are as a person at-fucking-all. Older cultures seem to care more about small talk and droning on about who people are and their shitty feelings.
Just my two cents on the issue after a few years of engineering school at a big state school in the US where we have plenty of indians, chinese, south asians, brazilians, etc. etc.
>>52437976 >"Need shit work done? Give it to the Indians."
What else do you suggest, have westerners who actually made the technologies do the shit work, and have third worlders fuck up important stuff? That's what's happening in more than enough companies already (because "muh diversity"), hopefully they all go belly-up, deservedly so. Nobody in their right mind assigns mission-critical work to cheap labor which was hired in the first place due to being much cheaper.
>>52438432 >Anonymous 01/15/16(Fri)13:34:40 No.52438392▶ >the worst i can say about them is that a lot seem insecure of themselves, and when in management positions seem ethnocentric. i also don't like the H1B visa ordeal, but that is more the fault of kikes than it is them. >otherwise, i find them to generally be pleasant, and loyal once you develop friendships with them. but there are so many here in tech, along with Chinese, that it's hard not to make a few friends with any of them. >also, aside from these Asians, this area is full of disgusting homeless people, with surrounding low-income areas of beaners and niggers, so i welcome Pajeet and Chen if they're going to gentrify the trash out.
>they feel entitled to our jobs >implying I/we deserve those jobs >feel entitled
>>52438530 People who put money back money into the American economy and government taxes deserve American jobs. Instead, pajeet sends that money to his shack in India. Indians are pretty much leaches to other countries.
>>52438708 A lot of the indians in tech here live here and have their families here.
I don't think you can participate in a rational discussion since you have pajeet english spelling yourself.
/g/ and /v/ seem to have the same /pol/fag population now. Even as a yt I can't wait 'til we're the minority in this nation, because it will be funny to watch /pol/fags rage, and rage, until they resemble the early-death statistics just released.
>>52439167 >A lot of the indians in tech here live here and have their families here. Doesn't matter. They're still sending money out of the US. http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/10/23/indians-are-sending-home-a-record-amount-of-money-this-year-world-bank/
>I don't think you can participate in a rational discussion since you have pajeet english spelling yourself. >adds an ad hominem to justify his argument
It is normal for Rajeets to send money to their families in India . All emigrants do it including Romanians which also work as code monkeys , mainly for Microsoft but nobody complains about Romanians. By the way I'm Romanian not Indian .
>>52439410 Thats nice ,dear but try not to project your personal insecurities on poor emigrants trying to earn an honest living . Be a good boy now and come with valid arguments so we can talk like civilized people.
>>52439519 Ok then, how come you fuckin shitskin romanians can't manage proper driving and your streets stinks like raw chicken and shit, why is there 5 gypsy wagons on every corner in your capital city, why is there no signs on your streets, no names, no numbers, your are so fucking behind the first world countries and thats for a reason.
>>52439487 Not gypsies , but I don't blame you for thinking so . Gipsies due to the poverty in my country tend to be uneducated , go abroad and beg , steal and cheat and come back in Romania rich as fuck . So if you see an Romanian gypsy begging beat the shit out of him or just ignore him . Pic related >>> Gypsy house from Strehaia , Mehedinti County Romania
>>52439724 >americans are refugees as it was americans who founded the united states of america (having founded their own republic, they default become americans within their own republic) they are not natives to the americas, sure, but to the united states of America, they are certainly natives you go kill yourself
>>52439808 >that's like saying refugees coming into a country are becoming natives to that land no, it's like refugees taking advantage of kind, tolerant natives, and then settling on undeveloped land whilst also conflicting violently with the natives, they aren't natives to the land of the continent, but they are natives to the united states of america, as it is they who founded it, >don't you read the bullshit you write? I did, did you?
I don't hate Indians, but I do hate the fact that some (not all) of them are here and the reason for it. If you work in IT, you may at some point be forced into "digging your own grave", where you are not only laid off for foreign workers, but you will be required to train them to do your job or you will be fired and ineligible for unemployment benefits. And no, it's not something that only happens to replaceable Java developers, no one is immune.
Hopefully, companies companies are not seeing all IT people as totally replaceable with an Indian. Their code usually sucks and India is filled with degree mills, so their credentials are likely to be fraudulent. There has been at least one incident where the Indians fucked things up so badly that they tried to call back the American workers they laid off.
I'm currently looking for a job (no, I was not laid off, I've just researched the topic of H1B workers so I knew what I would be dealing with when looking for jobs) and half the recruiters who call me are Indian. The accents themselves never bother me much (though I did get one who I could not understand a word after "Hello, is this [my name]). I spend sometimes a half hour on the phone with them repeating the job description three times and giving my contact information just as many (while they get it wrong). I have had more than one I give my email address to, [username]@mail.[college].edu, and when I ask them to confirm they got it right, they repeat "okay, [username]@hotmail.com". I want a job and am afraid of missing out on a good opportunity, but I often consider only staying on calls with people who speak English clearly.
That said, I just hate the reasons some of them are here. The mentor on my senior capstone project is from India and my first IT job while I was in college was with a company importing linen from India owned by a very nice Indian family (none of them on H1B).
because they steal entire databases, then go batshit insane when they are prosecuted, to the extent of killing themselves, then theyre family shamelessly shitposts about how they sacrificed for the people and went to MIT when they actually didnt and also because there girlfriend looks like a tranny
>>52441203 I've actually seen something similar to what the poster said. Where I used to work, they had an api that accepted a string that would be executed as a SQL query. Not sure why. You didn't have to pass a security key or anything.
>>52437758 I laugh so hard when americans give their work to developing nations in order to save some money but they are forgetting that its a different world out there. You can not hold accountable anyone here for anything its like a fucking wild west,there is no communication only blame shifting for as long the money is coming in,when money stops nobody gives a shit and the cycle continuous with the next american that is getting into third world mentality adventure.
There is no sense of responsibility in these people minds,everything is done half assed. Im praying to god I will be able to save some money and move into some place where people still think with their heads and not act like fucking animals over $5.
>>52437874 Fucking this. I work IT for a bigger tech manufacturer and our Dept over in India is balls to the wall retarded. They call us about each and every issue. They never try to figure things out for themselves. It is maddening.
>>52437758 Because they work as fucking codemonkeys and still manage to fuck the code so bad and dont even know when you complain about stuff because they barely know english. On one occasion my coworker had to use google translate to translate a whole email into their language and send it to the project leader. The replay came in their language too, i mean atleast have the decency to translate it into english. Slav coders are miles better, they can speak english and work for even less than indian coders. Plus their code is kinda alright
>>52438486 >>52439079 They get paid by the hours and they NEED to type something, or its not considered a successful tech support session, his supervisor will be on his ass if he doesn't type anything. The way he can not work and still get paid? Type random gibberish. Indians are way too good at cheating the system
>>52452309 Indians will never, NEVER replace the white race. They're still hundreds of years behind us in every aspect
I'll try to explain why indians in tech suck, my indian friend explained it to me the other day The thing is, indians are a very money oriented people, they go where the money is. As we all know, CS is a (supposedly) goldmine, so indians rush to study CS with the dreams of making it big. Now the general populations who studies CS in india are dirt poor people who just want a secure job, they dont have an ounce of interest in the subject, nor do they care about it. They're just there for the money. Some of these are so poor that they dont even own computers and havent probably ever used one. While thats not exactly a requirement for studying CS, you can guess their caliber from wanting to study something solely for money and no interest in it
>>52452458 Replace you in what? We already have a larger military, larger space program, nuclear program, and longer hostory of civilization than most white parts of the world, and we were completely illiterate, agricultural, and backward just 60 years ago; we've industrialized at least as fast as anywhere in Europe. All those numbers at the top of your post were an Indian computational idea.
Regardless, 'replacing' is a genocidal white idea, we only move and market our services and marry in our community, we're nothing like whites.
As for me, I workin biotech so I don't know enough about 2 bit coders to givea shit. Most of your generic drugs are also produced by Indians.
Anyway, I was only looking to uncover the latent racism in this thread, to illustrate lack of substance. You can continue now, I just wanna make sure you understand your place.
>>52452798 as an indian i have to agree, my dog could teach a class better than most of my teachers. >but 1 or 2 of those really great teachers, guys! i wish they would have taught me all the subjects. fuck the education system.
>>52453022 >all the shitty techs we have to pull the weight of. i know, mate. as someone who actually tried to write his own code (and it wasn't half bad, either), i must say that if you let your students have the answer key, you are at fault for creating graduates who don't know their loo from their street.
also to all those who had got their code written in india - just stop cheaping out. you are half at fault yourself, tbh_fam!
finally - Any good source for learning perfect programming practices? something that deals with all the nitty gritty, if possible, by using a major programming language like c, c++, c# or java?
>>52437758 they're really fucking stupid third-worlders that lack education and critical thinking and they have a culture ingrained into them where they unironically think it's perfectly fine to be an unproductive scamming scumbag
>>52437994 I had some unknown problem with layouts when developing an android app, google didn't yield the answer, so I went to look at the source, it's open source and easy to understand? Wrong, the source code is full of 1000 line behemoth functions that do 10 different things, gee I wonder where those came from. Didn't even find a solution so I had to rewrite things.
If I could push a button to make all fresh off the boat indians die I'd be kinda conflicted. The most responsible choice would be to do it but I can't deny that they are actually nice people for the most part. I'd feel bad about it tbqh.
In the whole world, India is the best. In the field of technology, in the field of education, in the field of culture, India is number one. India has made amazing progress in the fiesld of technology. India has a space program. Ok? Laugh all you want at the superpower that India is going to be by the year of 2020.
>>52437758 The Indians so far: Haven't dropped a nuclear bomb on anyone. Have launched satellites and space probes without the help of captured German scientists. Haven't fought a war lately with anyone not threatening their land border.
>>52462337 I wish you were an actual indian. I kinda enjoy wrecking the shit out the wagon wheelers, probably the weather here in 'Straya >>52462346 They do. They apparently drink cowpiss and smear feces in their bodies for good luck
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