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Rocking one of these for £170 new
Upgrades
>Xeon E3 1240v2
>16gb ECC ram
>eSATA controller
>4x4TB WD Red
>3x3tb Toshibas over usb3 and eSATA

Convince me not to get another one for that price.
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I fucking hate HP for not making an affordable 8-12 bay version of this.
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>>52433881
How hot does it run?
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>>52434112
Idle between 40-45 and under full load it peaks to 85ish until the system fan takes over and lowers it to 70C.

Been converting for 12+ hours on all cores and it hasnt exceeded 70C except right before the system fan kicks in.
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>>52433881
Man! It' the thing.
> Convince me not to get another one
There's no alternatives, but I found some cons.
1) BIOS, no UEFI. Come on, HP.
2) There's no easy way to use an AHCI SATA mode w/o RAID and boot from a 'optical drive' SSD. Some guy suggested to write /boot to a microSD and boot from it.
2.1) Therefore, no rEFInd, I think I'll go with GRUB. Anyway, still wainitng for SSD.

I have a question, tho. Do I need some special magic HP $199 switch to use a LAN Teaming?
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>>52433881
Where did you get it at that price? From Jamal?
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>>52434289
>2) There's no easy way to use an AHCI SATA mode w/o RAID and boot from a 'optical drive' SSD. Some guy suggested to write /boot to a microSD and boot from it.
That's what I did. Not a great solution but its been working for 8 months. Makes reinstalling a bit more complicated though.

>I have a question, tho. Do I need some special magic HP $199 switch to use a LAN Teaming?
Not necessarily the HP one but you need a switch/router that also supports teaming.
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>>52434733
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hewlett-Packard-Enterprise-ProLiant-MicroServer/dp/B013UBCHVU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1452866270&sr=8-1&keywords=microserver+gen8

Seen them as low as £165.
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>>52434754
> you need a switch/router that also supports teaming
So desu ka. Thank you, Anon.
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no GPU so how will I play the games?
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>>52434807
Buy one? It has a pcix slot.
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>>52433903
Even a version with hotswap would be an improvement!
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>>52434896
I'm not bothered about hotswappimg personally but that price is unbeatable considering its ECC, has iLO etc.

I want 4 of these fuckers but unfortunately one hard drive is almost as much as the whole server.
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>>52434896
It's possible to hotswap. SATA AHCI standart supports it, pic related.
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>>52434896
the older mediasmart server was hotswappable
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>>52434896
Built in hardware raid5 would have been nice too.
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Hp Microserver gen9 FUCKING WHEN.
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>>52435128
from what i've read you cant get it working properly with the gen8. You could on earlier microserver versions with a bios hack however.
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>>52433881
What do you guys use your home servers for?
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>>52436166
backup, plex, general storage, converting videos and general testing
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Runs:

WS 2012 and Ubuntu Server

WS2012 runs:
Plex
Storage Pools
Sonarr
PlexAnalytics
Steam + In-Home Streaming

Ubuntu Server runs:
FTB Server
Terraria
Teamspeak
AFP for remote OS X Time Machine backups
Cloud9 for remote development + compiling (super fucking useful)
All my personal sites/public file sharing


I probably also run a bunch of other stuff I've forgotten about `~`
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Where can I get this for £170
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>>52437831
Amazon UK senpai
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APC's just came it but havent installed them yet, still waiting for the comcard for them.
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How do I into backoing up 8tb raid with 3x3tb drives? Winblows server won't let me pool them so I'm stuck with 3 seperately volumes.

Do I really need to drag & drop shit manually?
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>>52438019
Nice u dutch?
What APC would you recommend for 2 homeservers? both using approx ~120 watt on 550 watt psu
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When you faggots talk about virtualising everything do you for example run windows server, then a windows server VM running SMB, another one for FTP etc or what?
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>>52438451
>Windows
No we talk about KVM, Xenserver, ESXI, proxmox when we talk about virtualizing also Linux / *BSD we talking about when we talk about OS.

Windows can do certain tasks good but that's really for bigger companies and you will get the most out of your hardware by running BSD/Linux because you can remove all the useless stuff and build what you really need.
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>>52438483
Was just wondering whether people virtualise just the server OS or virtualise every role individually as well.
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>>52434775

> Intel Celeron G1610T

the xeon you mentioned in your first post is worth more than 170 eurobucks. if you bought the xeon version for 170 euro then somebody made a huge mistake.

here are USD listings, all $800+ which is about right.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00LGJ9AT6/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new
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>>52438553
>>52433881
>Upgrades
>Upgrades
>Upgrades
>Upgrades

Also the upgrades are more expensive than the part itself. The xeon cost me £95 and for simple file serving and backups the g1610t is fine. I even transcoded 2-3 plex streams.
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What should I look into if I want an additional 8+ bays of storage? I don't really know what I'm doing when it comes to racks and whatnot.

Are there some cheapish legacy things I should look out for? I see Dell md1000 a lot which seem cheap.
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my test server
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HTPC + Server vs HTPC/Server?

I'd rather have just one machine but that means I've got to keep my power-hungry htpc on all the time (beefy for madVR upscaling). Can't decide if I should put a banana pi server in the closet and use the htpc as needed.
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To set up my own rack for shit like firewalls, DMZ, Website hosting, FTP, and media servers
What kind of hardware would i need and how powerful would it have to be
Trying to into networks and servers
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>>52439567
need more info

is the media server encoding?

hevc?

what's the most cpu intensive thing you will be running on it? unrar? hevc encode?
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>>52439651
The media server would be encoding
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>>52439698
Then you will want skylake (it can do 8-bit hevc encodes)

Xeon E3-1220 v5 would be nice
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>>52435552
never
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>>52439739
If i don't use it as a media server and i just do the other things what could i get away with?

Also thank you for the help i'm green as fuck and with a limited budget
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>>52439776
It depends on a lot of things. A server is just a computer. If you are only using it as a file server then you could get away with a SoC board like a Banana Pi. I mean, your basic run-of-the-mill router could handle those other tasks and it has a shitty 200-400Mhz CPU in it.
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>>52439823
So i would be good with something like this then?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-1U-Server-X7DBR-E-2x-Xeon-X5450-3ghz-Quad-Core-32gb-DVD-Add-HDD-/231805593796?hash=item35f8b0a8c4:g:HiYAAOSwZd1VVrw~
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>>52439929
Yes, if you don't care about power draw for a 24/7 system, that's a good performance/price ratio
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>>52439985
Alright
Thanks again for the help
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Runs my proxmox virtualization, wondering why the internet connections are so slow on it though when the damn thing has gigabit lan
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>>52439929
>1u

it's going to be fucking loud m8
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>>52440056
Mmm, the good ol' 2950 jet engines, what gen is that?
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>>52433881
i never understand how people need that amount of space, although i like it. what do you store on it and do you fill it up?

>>52437787
3 advanced 5 me. 7/10 server.

>>52438019
8/10


Old pic.
Specs
>windows 8.1
>40gb (old HDD for OS)
>3tb HDD for all my stuff
>dual xeon 5160
>quadro Fx 4800
>4gb ram (non ECC)

runs a regular homegroup server that allows my family to use the printer, store/read files. watch movies etc..
also hosts my TS server for when i game
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>>52440387
I hate how these companies don't give you more than 2-4 drivebays except for massively overpriced ones.
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>>52433881
Depends on funds, intended use, and physical space. Personally I thoroughly enjoy my 24-bay dual x5650 with 96gb of ram.
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>>52435516
Why? If you have to use windows put your primary on an ssd and do software raid.
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>>52434289
>There's no alternatives, but I found some cons.
3) No hardware RAID on Linux.

>>52435552
SOON. Literally soon. IMHO it looks like they want to sell out their inventory of 8's first.

>>52438030
Stick the 3x3tb's in a server running Linux.
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>>52438019
Yay, a non-pleb server guy!
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>>52439929
That's overkill for everything but virtualization.
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>>52440769
>SOON. Literally soon.
You fucking better m8

They haven't said a single fucking word. Not that I'd buy it because the price will most likely be hefty. If it's still just 4 bays I think I'd rather buy 2x gen8 instead.
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>>52440609
bought it used with a quadro FX 4600 and got a free fx 4800 with.
i think i gave like 100 eur. (no HDD's with)
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What fans are the most queit for just a home server, probably need a CPU fan too standard Intel is loud as fuck, fan sizes are 120/140 mm
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>>52438451
I tend to separate virtual machines by domain instead of service.
VM: Private
VM: Public
VM: Development
etc
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>>52442313
Don't you start to lose track of things? I have several machines but only one server, at least centralised storage made things a bit simpler.
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I need a server for backups and torrenting. Would prefer generic hardware so that I can configure it myself, rather than an off the shelf device. Poorfag, so I need the cheapest option possible. Suggestions?
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>>52437787

complex

nice though
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Virtualization confuses me.Aren't servers comprised of relatively poor performing components compared to desktops? I get the whole "designed to be powered on 24/7" thing, but how does virtualization not bog these things down to the point of being unusable?
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>>52442498
>Aren't servers comprised of relatively poor performing components compared to desktops?
......nooooooo.
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>>52442313
I have critical services on separated VM's also mostly segmented from my private network (vlan,firewall)
All my VM's are tagged with H (high risk) M (medium risk) L (low risk)
For example high risk would be : webserver, tor node, any public services running, personal data on storage(encrypted)
Medium : Teamspeak, network services (DNS, NTP) ect.
Low: local applications, non personal data storage(firewalled for local private only), media center, and so on
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Hello all,

I have a semi old Dell Desktop Intel (core 2 duo) machine in my possession and would like to make it into a personal server.

It is at my parents house but I will be moving out soon for college and live in dorms. I don't feel confortable torrenting on the dorm wifi and so my plan is to torrent on the home server, and then FTP into the server and transfer the video, or whatever.

I want to use Debian on the server and have a question:

I will SSH into the machine, but how would I configure Transmission to allow for a web UI, via SSH. I obviously know how to do it with clicking the UI. Is there some setting text file I have to edit?
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>>52442498
>servers comprised of relatively poor performing components
No.
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>>52442569
Explain why that is a better solution than just getting a VPN for a few dollars a month?
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>>52442591
For starters I wouldn't have to pay for a VPN. Secondly the download speeds on the VPN would be slower than if I weren't using it. Personally, I want to get experience with servers so it is a little side project, but I would actually be using it.
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>>52442569
>allow for a web UI, via SSH.
SSH with TCP forwarding is what you need.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
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Been using a desktop as a server for a while now and was wondering, if I purchase something like what is linked in >>52439929 , can this be used as a stand-alone machine? Or do I need all kinds of specialized things like specific power supplies and such? I don't want to spend alot of money when I'm getting the job done with what I have.
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>>52442498
kekd
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>>52442980
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-1U-Server-X7DBR-E-2x-Xeon-X5450-3ghz-Quad-Core-32gb-DVD-Add-HDD-/231805593796?hash=item35f8b0a8c4:g:HiYAAOSwZd1VVrw~

it comes with the power supply

and yes, they are different from desktop psu's
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>>52442498
>Aren't servers comprised of relatively poor performing components compared to desktops?

>Intel® Xeon® Processor E7-8890
>18 cores
>36 threads
>you can have FOUR of these on the same motherfucking motherboard

Niggah git gud
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>>52442980
Get something like this so you don't have to buy a rack

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859155114
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Had to switch to KVM because xen a shit
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>>52443006
I'm not in IT (obviously). I don't get much exposure to this sort of thing. Sorry, I figured you guys weren't like the jackasses in the guts threads.
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>>52442498
Servers are just computers, anon. And like anything else, you get a computer powerful enough for your needs. You only get a powerful server if it fits your use case.
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>>52443043
Ok, so a rack would be required?
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859155114
I think I'm going to have to go this route until I can gather up enough information about putting together the piece meal set ups. Thanks for your help.
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>>52443209
I mean it's not required, but having a server tray just laying around is kind of unsightly and stupid.
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>>52443406
Are server trays standardized to fit any given rack, or is this some sort of proprietary hell that will require months of internet searches to find a specific rack?
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Back up your knowledge with experience, I do appreciate the cyclic dependency between employment and experience.

Broaden your social network, join an interest group. i.e Linux User Groups, Geekups (see http://geekup.org/ if you're in the UK), Any other tech related events (see http://lanyrd.com/).

Have a look into freelancing. Start with simple jobs and work your way up into the areas you really want to focus on:

>https://www.upwork.com/
>https://www.peopleperhour.com/

Search for local charities and offer to do some work for free. At the end you'll have more experience than you began with, a reference, potential employment.
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>>52444003
Wrong thread.

>>>52442604
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EC2
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My c2100 up top is being a nigger
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>Buy like 4 hard drives
>Put them in RAID
>Get the space of a single drive
Why.
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>>52445081
Did you try to RAID 1 across 4 drives? Why would you do that?
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>>52445081
>lots of space
>RAID
>not a lot of $$$
pick two
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Can someone recommend other things I can do with my first baby home server? It is a netbook atom dual core running debian minimal. Currently have transmission-daemon running along with openssh properly configured. What else should I consider putting on there? Any transmission mods or configs? Cool SSH tricks or utilities that I can use when SSHing into it to copy files to a connected flash drive? Thanks
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My rack.
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>>52447367
An Atom could definitely handle streaming music and possibly lower-bitrate video with Plex. If you're away often then OpenVPN is also useful. Git might not be a bad idea either.
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>>52447407

Pretty shit line voltage tbqh senpai. I'm rocking 127
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>>52447407
Who is this binary broker?
Who is that digital distributor?
Who is this online orator?
Who is that data disseminator?
Who is this file fortress?
Who is that CPU citadel?
Who is this packet propagator?
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>>52447407
bend radius, this kills the performance.
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>>52444803
Have you pulled down the latest SUU for the Dell's? My R610's have also been acting strange recently, but was fixed by the SUU. Didn't care enough to look as to what actually was changed, so it could be coincidence.
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>>52433881
So, this happened...

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jc62hM

Which means that I may try to sell OP my existing server. (pic is existing server)
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>>52448276
Nothing odd, my bottom units LCD stopped displaying information, kinda bum by that.
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>>52448286
Shit man. That would be an amazing home server.

Although those archival hard drives are no good in any kind of RAID. Not sure how they will do in software RAID or however WS2012 does drive pooling. Just an FYI.
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>>52448286
Better value to get an LGA2011 board and a used Xeon (8 cores for ~$105).
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Planning to buy one of these for $200-$300 soon.
Using it for plex, hosting a couple web sites, fucking around with vms, etc.

>hp dl380 g6
Anyone want to talk me out of it?
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>>52443031
Retarded anon here, where are the ATX power connectors for the mobo and CPUs?
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>>52449236
It probably has them on the underside of the motherboard. Not a whole lot of room to spare on 4S boards.
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>>52448871
It sounds like a racecar in your closet, you'll regret it off of noise alone.
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>>52449361
Are you sure about this one specifically? I read up on the other ones and they sound like that, however people say this model is different.
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>>52445839
He wants to make quadruply sure his data is consistent and survives 3 of the disks getting destroyed when the server is ran over by a steamroller!
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>>52448286
Whats that storage box to the left of the server?

Also is windows storage spaces any good? I'm thinking of just setting up some sort of simple & upgradable ubuntu server with zfs or btrfs next time I refresh my hardware.
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Supermicro X7SPA-H
Intel Atom D510
2GB Ram
Dual Intel 82574L LAN
Intel USB 3.0 PCIe 4x

Windows XP 64Bit (yes I know...) (-.-)

4x 2TB Hitachi 7K2000 internal
2x 2TB WD AVGP external backup USB 2.0
1x 4TB WD Black external backup USB 3.0


150MB/s Dual LAN --> Dual LAN
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>>52442435
Doesn't get very cheaper and generic than a Raspberry Pi. Choose an operating system and plug in your storage to put your backups on.
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>>52442435
Do you have a spare laptop/desktop?
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>>52440344
Gen 2, thinkin about upgrading just because, also looking fkr solution on those jets, pisses me off
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>>52445081
>all raid is the same

kill yourself
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