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Created a new thread because I can't find one. Dunno what the last one was.

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
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Just bought a x60s, feels good.
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Which of the X series tablets should I get?
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>>52430193
I have an X60 but can't stand the resolution.
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Between an X60, T60, or X200; which should I buy? I have an offer to buy any of the three from a friend.
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>>52430386
Erhm, let me rephrase.
What would be the biggest tradeoff between the three?
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>>52430138
I keep 6 or 7 new Thinkpads in my trunk at all times. The keyboard and sturdy case make for great traction if you get stuck in the snow. If that doesn't work, call AAA on the ol' Iphone.
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Anyone know a good place to buy a battery I can get more than 4 hours of use time out of on a thinkpad x201? I bought one a while ago and I only get ~2 hours, but it's a 6-cell so meh.

>>52430211
I have an x201, but the x220 is probably the best one you can get. My x201 is great for school, though.
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>>52430447
How much are you willing to spend?
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>>52430536
Maaaaybe ~$50 max. I'm gonna grab a new SSD, 16GB of ram, and that, so I'd like to not end up spending over $200 total.
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>>52430138
>implying the P series is even good
I doubt anyone has gotten one yet, also you imply the P40 yoga is a Real ThinkPad Experience when we all clearly agree the Yoga is the Macbook for Lenovo.

>not recommending an IPS T60
>not recommending a FHD W510
>not recommending the 600X

Down to using a Lati D610, shit's not cash...
Interested in the X1 Tablet... probably going to buy a T430s for 'work'
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I've seen some x200 listed on Ebay saying they have a locked bios password. Is there a workaround for thinkpad bios passwords or is it going to be impossible to crack and you'd be stuck just salvaging the rig for parts?

>inb4 jamal give it back
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>>52430673
No feasible way to get around it.

>jamal give it back
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>>52430673
I've acquired two bios locked computers and the first I was able to rewrite portions of the bios with CPQAMT tool (It was an HP/Compaq laptop) and the other it was literally just the company name which I found on a sticker on the back

>Return to SQT if found
>I guessed SQT as password and it worked


If neither of those are an option, you can always replace the bios chip.
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>>52430673
libreboot
replace mobo for ~$25
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Just ordered 8gigs of ram and a ssd for my x201s.
>tfw I'll have a blazing fast shitposting machine
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>>52430536
Nothing? Don't leave me hanging!!
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>>52430553
>>52430774
Dumb awoo poster
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>>52430673
I would just install an OS on another PC, swap that drive onto the locked bios and hope it boots fine.

Otherwise, its pretty hard to do, removing the CMOS battery could make the board SOL too.
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>>52430738
I found this thread http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2191277 where it mentions removing the CMOS battery for the x200 to clear the password. If I get an x200 i want to try making it libreboot anyways. If i'm planning on replacing the bios with libreboot does the locked bios even matter?
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>>52430774
Bid on a genuine one on ebay, they go for cheap if you keep stalking.
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Thanks to the anon who gave me the name for my shiny new R60. The SSD really did make a dramatic difference - it's a decent little writing station now.
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Recently got the old t420. Loving it so far.
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>>52430922
But what if they're used up? I already have a genuine 9-cell, it's just dead... I get like 2 hours with it.
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If windows 10 is installed on a thinkpad is it bonet forever? I like the idea of having the open to dual boot with linux as my main OS but i don't want to have windows 10 botnetting me. I'd prefer windows 7 but some of these fags on ebay and craigslist are installing windows 10 on old machines like it's a feature to have M$ spy on you and your data.
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>>52430972
Get one that shows battery threshold levels then or buy from TPF member.

>>52430990
>have linruks and Windows 7 isos
>don't have to worry about the botnet
Feels good.
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>>52430673
you short out 2 pins on a chip on the motherboard by tapping them with a screwdriver as it turns on
takes literally 2 minutes for the whole thing
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>have T530
>Brought T420 to little brother, but he is a nigger and does not appreciate having such superior machine (you can imagine)

Thinking on getting another T420, since T530 is way too being for college. Tried asking for the T420 back but he refuses (never uses it). What should I do here lads ?
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>>52431101
deck the little cunt and take it
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>>52431118
Fucking auzzies
I love ya
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>>52431101
>little brother
take it and 10 of his other possessions
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You can find t420 thinkpads with a 1600x900 panel with a ssd for $200 or under. You have no excuse for not owning one.
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>>52431414
>tfw outbid for a 1600x900 T420 because I was busy to check in the last few minutes

Feels bad because it was sold at $153 sans shipping, $3 more than what i bid. Then again I should exercise some restraint after blowing quite a bit on a W520
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>>52431414
shipping is a killer famalam
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Has anyone gotten dualhead from the DisplayPort working?
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Bought a W550s 6 months ago. Good choice?
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>t420
>socketed CPU
is this true?
i can replace the 2520m with an i7 2630qm?
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>>52432590
Yes. Even Ivy Bridge CPUs are usable with a BIOS mod, but it's still early in development.
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>>52432637
wow.

thanks anon
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>>52432678
I'll add that while you can technically use a quadcore in the T420, its cooling was never designed to handle it and you'll probably have to use very conservative settings to avoid overheating. I think the cooler for iGPU models is slightly more capable, but you obviously won't be able to use that with a dedicated graphics model.
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thinkpads are fucking shit and should be discontinued as an apology by lenovo for what they've done
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>>52430581
>when we all clearly agree the Yoga is the Macbook for Lenovo.
So that is a good thing, then? since besides their overpricedness and their lol-no-repari-for-youness, the macbooks are actually really great machines.

And it seems, like lenovo (or rather the used market) has fixed the overpriced issue. I can get pic related for 500 Ürobucks. should I?

I need a new-ish ultraportable, and I would also like a tablet for reading and anotating (mostly pdfs of scientific articles, so the standard 10" size is a bit small, maybe!?), and a corei3 (isnt that actually even a fairly new generation), 8GB of RAM, 14" IPS screen (bit low res, but still OK), inteld HD5500 (isnt that also quite capable?) and a trackpoint for 1.6kg and that price seems quite good.

To good to be true? Other chinkpad ultrabooks of the same or older generation (X1, T440s) start at 800+€, for way lower specs, so there must be something wrong with the Yoga?

so wait for the new X1/T460s next month, so that the *40 Generation gets another bit cheaper, and grab an T440s + a 10" tablet for a total of 100€?
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>>52433003
>I can get pic related for 500 Ürobucks. should I?

I get it. Thinkpads are so useless that they may as well not exist.
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mfw the macbook air is becoming so affordable that it is easily a more alluring purchase than any thinkpad
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>>52430138
My x220 I just ordered off ebay came with a dock.
What does this button do and why is the LED next to it red?
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>>52433326
If its the same as with the X200 (which is safe to assume), it is the button/light for removing/unmounting the dock.

There is this large lever next to it, which detaches the dock from the machine, and you can always use that, however, depending on what you are doing, your system might not like it.
so you press the button first, sending the system an "unmount" command, and when the light turns green, it is unmountend, and can safely be removed.
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>>52433003
just realized that I forgot the picture
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Have the opportunity to buy the T60 off a guy on Craigslist for $100. Is it worth the buy? I've never bought an ThinkPad before.
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>>52433480
>dual core i3
>500 ramadan rubles
no
it's shit. get a 16:9 t420
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>>52433847
That's a bit high I think, unless it's got one of the better screen options. Good starter Thinkpad though, T60 was my first too. The keyboard on them is simply unmatched.
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Just got a new battery for free from Lenovo.
How should I store my old battery? At what charge do I leave it? It still lasts 3 hours when browsing the web so I'm not throwing it away.
Also link for those who are interested https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/hf004122


>>52433847
I think it's a bit too much. You should look for a thinkpad with at least i-series CPU. For 120$ you could get yourself x201/t410.
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>>52433917
> t420
too big and bulky
too slow (I already have an X200, not worth the upgrade)
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Alright /g/
I don't understand why you guys Thnkpads so much, I just want a decent laptop to run Linux and Operating Systems for fun, and just basic youtube and shit, would prefer lightweight, and durable battery.

is this a bad choice? http://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIA5YV3G59144?icid=WP_10_01142016
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Best thinkpad for college? Plan on dual-booting gentoo and windows, use it for web browsing, movies, little to no gaming and some programming and simulations
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>>52435073
Oh and, I doubt I'll do any gaming but If I do I'll probably do TF2 and emulators (DS,GBA).

Doubt it can be as bad as my current laptop, http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-E1-571-6888-Laptop-Windows/dp/B00AYT8H02
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>>52435514
It doesn't seem to have the IPS panel, you can get a better deal on your local craiglist. But if that's your only choice, which I doubt, go for it. You will then get to know what man's computer looks like.

As for your TF2, yeah ultra low settings and overheating. DS emulator can CPU intensive depending on the game, I doubt you'll get a smooth experience.
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>>52435397

X220 or T420. I prefer my T420 since the screen is bigger plus higher in resolution.

TN panel is preferred if you use it in the wild.
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>>52435626
t420 blaze it faggot
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>>52435610
>local craiglist
Most of them are either the same price or higher.
>It doesn't seem to have the IPS panel
Explain?
>As for your TF2, yeah ultra low settings and overheating
I already use ultra low settings, just hope the overheating isn't as bad.. doubt it can be..
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Which model (Thinkpad or Dell Latitude) has the best screen? I has a fairly powerful xeon based workstation and want to pair it with a lightweight laptop. CPU or RAM don't matter since I only use it as a dumb terminal, but I really want to have a nice screen because I will look at it all day.
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>>52435839
>>It doesn't seem to have the IPS panel
>Explain?
Thinkpads are known for having notoriously bad screens, if you opt to get the default, low res TN panel (which most used ones have, because office drones apparently dont need a good screen), instead of the optional, more expensive, higher res IPS panel.
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>>52436102
So basically IPS is better, but how much better are we talking about for what I am going to do with it?

Also, is getting a T520 better than a X220? googling and looking trough ebay they,
-Have a 1080p display unlike the x220
-Cost about the same
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hey fambams, how do i switch the fn key and ctrl on a X200?

didn't see an option in bios, but maybe i overlooked it.
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is 340 euros a good deal for a t430
>i5-3320m
>160gb ssd
>8gb ram
>new battery
>1600x900
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>>52436148
>but how much better are we talking about for what I am going to do with it?
Being able to see something from the side, vs seeing nothing and such stuff. I am on a low res TN, and I hate it (also doesnt help that the screen is old and dark) but I can still work on it. Still my next machine must have a high(ish) res IPS.
>Also, is getting a T520 better than a X220?
They dont really compare. Old school ultraportable vs. boat anchor. And 1080p aint that high res enymore, when you stretch it to 15 inches.

>>52436222
why would you want to do that? They are where they are supposed to be…
Switch CTRL and ALT, for the only sane CTRL placement.
And the BIOS option was only included with the *20 series, if I remember correctly.
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>>52436421
see pic and tell me they are were they are supposed to be.

and no double checked, say no option.
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>tfw ThinkLight on your X200 won't light up
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>>52436475
they are supposed to be where they are.
See also pic related.
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>>52436486
Take it apart and fix it then u fukin gimp
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>>52436421
>Old school ultraportable vs. boat anchor.
Can you explain it better, which is the portable X220?
>1080p aint that high res enymore
I know still better than 720p from what I know
>Being able to see something from the side, vs seeing nothing and such stuff
Well if you don't want anyone on the train to see what you are doing I guess it works?
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>>52436486
>tfw my two X200's with 9 cell batts arrived but they die within an hour or two

fug.
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>>52436403
Lel no 100 bucks too much
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>>52436067
neither
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>>52436614
>>Old school ultraportable vs. boat anchor.
>Can you explain it better, which is the portable X220?
Have you even looked at the fucking spec sheet for the laptops you are thinking about buying?
Are you aware that they have different screen sizes, and different purposes?
you really should do some research before you think about buying something.

>should I buy a truck or a smart?
>what, they have different sizes?
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>>52436822
the fuck is a smart lmao
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My current employer gave me a T420 for work and I think it sucks ass. It underperforms really badly and I'm not even using it for development, I just connect to a remote machine via RDP and it still manages to chug when doing simple stuff like opening explorer folders.

I'm contemplating buying a laptop for personal use (doing regular web dev and stuff), convince me to get a thinkpad after this rather unimpressive first experience.
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>>52436822
>should I buy a truck or a smart?
I think you kinda flip out man, you ok?
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>>52436903

Though in the Thinkpad's favor, I think it might actually be my employer's godawful antivirus bloatware doing most of the damage.
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Does anyone have the IBM thinkpad logo wallpaper that was usually posted in the OP?
Accidentally lost it...
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>>52436903
>>52436948
Format or just get a SSD
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>>52436970
nevermind found it.
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Just ordered an X230t to replace the X220t I'm selling to a good friend of mine. Decent physical condition, 2/240SSD/$290. How'd I do?
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>>52436988
>not posting it
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>>52430138
>Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
>http://ktgee.net/tpg

>X series Tablet (Convertible PC)
>A bit bigger than the X series.
So it's bigger than itself?
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>>52437698
do you not know how to read or what?
>X series Tablet (Convertible PC)
>Tablet (Convertible PC)
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>>52437698
X***t > X***
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>>52430138
Found this on Craigslist yesterday, /tpg/
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>>52430990
fucking lmao
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181991788403
Does this look legit? Also how much? Note: £30 shipping.

Most of these seem to be selling for £200-300.
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/tpg/

I run fedora on my T440s full-time as I have on all of my laptops for many years

However, I have a huge presentation coming up and I'm too nervous to use linux right now because libreoffice has been fucking up all of my embedded videos

I'd like to boot up into full windows but I don't have space left on my primary disk (240GB SSD). However, I'm not using the 16GB cache drive in the Thinkpad. Does anyone know if it's possible to boot from the cache drive and whether 16GB is big enough for a full Win10 + Powerpoint installation?
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Are X60's still usable? I'm looking for a computer for taking notes in class, watching YouTube videos, and normie stuff in general?

They look so adorable and square.
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>>52438510
which switch tech is in there?
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I don't get it, they look like a century old and people are gonna accuse you of stealing them from a school? so please do tell me why should I get this
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>>52438777
also the logo on these are fucking awful, when are they gonna make a new one.
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>>52438777
>>52438790
>too stupid to read the OP
>needs to be spoonfed

I don't think a thinkpad is for you, macfaggot


Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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>>52438766
rubberdome, but these are the assigned keyboards for IBM - so a new hire would get a badge and one of these for the server room.
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>>52438921
>I don't think a thinkpad is for you, macfaggot
I don't like macs
I read the OP

Explain me why I should pick it over something else that is not a machese?

What are the pros and cons?
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>>52434059
fug senpai, tried 4 different batteries i have, and none worked.
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>>52439034
no one is going to sell them to you.

either get them or not, either way, leave the thread.
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>>52439083
You shouldn't tell someone to leave just because he touched your little safe space, I was asking questions, don't answer them if you don't want to.
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>>52438757
>taking notes in class
fine
>watching YouTube videos
480p and under
>and normie stuff in general?
like shitposting, email, or facebooking? It's fine
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>>52439034

Are you inept or just illiterate?


Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.

Cons:
If you're an insecure betafag, you might think girls are making fun of you behind your back
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>>52439095
i should tell them to leave if they contribute nothing at all and are clearly illiterate, when they can't even read OP.

so again, see ya.
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>2016
>laptops that cost more than a high-end phone
>1366x768

why is this allowed?
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>>52439118
>>52439217
>can you tell me some cons?
>Thinkpads have nothing wrong
lmao
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>>52439243
bc you are a fag
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>>52439772
see
>>52439118
>Cons:
>If you're an insecure betafag, you might think girls are making fun of you behind your back

Proving yet again that you can't fucking read or are completely inept

Seriously, do you have the attention span of a mosquito, or what?
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>>52439791
Sorry for blowing your safe space bubble honey.
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>>52439807
CONS:
>NOT A MACINTOSH PERSONAL COMPUTING SYSTEM
>NOT COMPLETELY MADE FROM DENTABLE MAGNESIUM ALLOY
>THICKER THAN YOUR FRONT PANTS POCKET
>HAS A FAN
>MORE THAN ONE USB 3.0 PORT
>KEYBOARD HAS DEEP TRAVEL INSTEAD OF SHALLOW TRAVEL DESIGNED TO FEEL LIKE DEEP TRAVEL
>MULTIPLE BATTERIES SO ONE MORE THING TO ACCIDENTALLY LOSE AT THE CLUB
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S or Edge series?

Used, they both go for several thousands.
New, they're in the tens of thousands range--never mind the T, W, or X series.
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>>52440152
none, save your pesos and move to a place with cheap thinkpads
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>>52440152
might as well just whatever disposable consumer craptop is on sale at PajeetBuy
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Hey guys, you've kind of infected me with the whole used laptop idea... I was of the opinion that laptops were surely crap when bought used but I guess they're not too complicated to tinker with.

I want to jump on the ThinkPad badwagon, but Dell, HP and Acer (Travelmate) are also valid options for me.

One model I haven't seen mentioned here is the Z60m... Has anybody had experience with this model? Would you buy it if you had the chance and what would be its price in the US?
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T420 or Latitude E6420? The Latitude is $185 vs $209.

It'd be for a relatively computer illiterate friend of mine who's currently using an ancient space heater of an HP with a battery that's probably gonna melt through his table in the next couple of months.

Also would you buy from refurb.io?
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Hey /g/, got a brand new battery for my t420 (70+).
The indicator of battery life is kinda weird, which is normal I suppose seeing I just changed it but I wondered if I needed to do something to "calibrate" it or if it will just regulate itself? Also what are some good ideas to improve battery life as much as possible? I'm running ubuntu (gnome) 14.04 and I don't care much about performances if I can squeeze some extra battery life out of it.
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really really liking this little machine.

still has a sticker on the lid of some coffee roasters, but i'll probably keep it on until i get some other ones.
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>>52440746
E6420
doesn't have a whitelist and looks better.
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Opinions on the original X1? Going for around $250, wondering if it'd be better to go T420 or not.
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>>52438510
Thanks for the update /u/widowlark!
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had my T420i turn up today, and it's much nicer to type on than my T400, just annoyed that i'm stuck with the i3-2370m until i can sell my i7-2630qm for a i7-2640m, as the 2630 caused a lot of coil whine and i couldn't turn turbo off, and also a little pissed that the bluetooth card refuses to be picked up in any OS, and that the display is 1366x768 so i'll have to upgrade that soon as i'm going to miss the 1440x900 that was on my T400.
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>>52439243
because retards smash screens and 1366x178 screens are cheap, so they may as well strengthen everything else instead of forking out £200 for a new panel when some ape drops the laptop.
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How does W520 run on linux? Planning to install something that just werks like Ubuntu 14.04 lts
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>>52441239
ok but not great due to nvidia optimus, linux has always had shite support for switchable graphics, you'd be better off with an integrated graphics version of the T520.
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>>52430403
Get all three, leave out the x60 if you must, I find my t60 and x200 pair nicely, although anything 60 series is definitely doable, you may have to really rice the shit out of whatever you run on it, an ssd certainly helps
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>>52441322
They are all libreboot, I am going with the T60 I think.
$250
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>>52430403
>>52441322
I realize that I did not answer your question: the t60's build quality is the last of it's kind, the screen is a solid magnesium shell, as well as the rollcage. The x60 I do not have a lot of experience with, but iirc it doesn't have a rollcage and the screen is a plastic shell, but don't quote me on that. The x200 I know has a plastic screen and no rollcage. The lack of a rollcage makes the x series lighter, but less durable and much less solid feeling. All of these thinkpads have libreboot support, except certains builds of the t60, if it has a 1280x1024 screen screen has a Radeon gpu, it will not work. The x series is 12 inches, so if you don't plan on taking it anywhere frequently, it might be annoying. The x200 has a widescreen display which annoys the hell out of me, so the x60's smaller screen will go farther. Finally, the60 series is old, the x60 might be unbearably slow, but a $30 cpu upgrade in the t60 will help considerably if you feel it too slow.
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first post from new x220 that I just got today, what do
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>>52441457
$250 for a t60? Not really a friend eh?
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>>52441515
Cum on it, post pics
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>>52441520
carbon fiber wrapped 15" T60
Core 2 Duo T5500, 64-bit upgraded
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to upgrade a T420's display is it possible to use the 04w1618 cable which is the cable the 1600x900 version came with or do i need the one which is listed in the thinkwiki page
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>>52441545
but it's so clean.

on another note, holy fuck people were not lying about IPS ghosting

I can see remnants of youtube's sidebar in the dark gray tomorrow theme
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>>52441575
Nice.
I bought an x60 off ebay, arrived as an x60, but with x61 motherboard. Can't complain as the price was good and it's in very good shape.
Installed a free wlan card from ThinkPenguin and going to install Trisquel with Middleton bios, since it doesn't support libreboot.
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Anyone see any deals on a T420 with NVDIA?
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>>52440211
>>52440213
Very helpful, thanks

But seriously >>52440152
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>>52440850
Bumping (with a Delta Integrale)
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>>52442195

I am retarded... bumped the wrong post...

This is me: >>52440707
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>>52442125

You're asking a question nobody wants to answer. And tens of thousands what?
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>>52441265
Thanks mate, I'll go with a T520
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Do the P70s and p50s have mxm?
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>>52430990
literally just dban the harddrive
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>>52442693
doubt it, but it's more likely that the P70 might have it.
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Latitude E6440
or
T540

Do thinkpads have better support and replacement parts availability?
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>>52430138
Fuck it all, won a x201 for cheap and it came with a celery cpu.
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Felt uneasy scoring one "refurbished" for $35 on Amazon, packaging looks pretty legit though, fully charging it before I test it...
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>>52444077
E6440 for being able to swap wireless cards and WWAN cards
T540 for all parts and batteries,
if you want a laptop to last until it completely disintegrates get the T540 as you'll be able to replace everything, while dell parts are harder to come by and a bit more expensive.
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>>52438757
I have one and it runs like a champ for shitposting, youtube etc. It does have a 1024x768 (i think thats right) display but it is adorable as you say
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>>52444231
how can you say that i've got a t61 and it's slow as fuck and takes a day to boot up.
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>>52444248
What distro are you using?
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>>52444307
>using a neckbeard OS.
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>>52444359
using an OS that makes your t61 >slow as fuck and takes a day to boot up.
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>>52444359
>having a shit laptop
>using a slow as fuck OS on it
>BUHH UHHHH MY COMPUWTER IS SLOOW
I wonder why buddy.
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K so i got my t540p and he Intel HD 4600 is actually pretty good, I can play lol, Diablo, dota 2, HYPER DIMENSION NEPTUNIA 2. I put samsung 500gb Evo in it and 16 gb ram. Performs very good.all for 500 euro. Color calibrated the screen and actually pretty decent screen now.
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>>52444207
A watched battery never charges...
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I still don't get why this is even a general, and how you guys can't even name cons on these laptops
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>>52444709
Cons:
-bad color accuracy of panels
-low resolution panels even in recent gen models

There. Best laptops ever, that's why it has its own captain, general, and soldiers.
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>>52444683
What's the full charge capacity and design capacity on that thing?
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>always be lurking local online classifieds for thinkpads hopefully an x2X0
>never anything
>finally 1 result
>it's an L540
>750 canuck bux ($550 US)
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>tfw got a pomona 5250 clip when I needed a 5252

should have waited until i got the laptops and checked before ordering.
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chromebook acer c720 > most recommended use thinkpads on this thread
and cost the same amount new

?????????? whats the point of this amount of fanboyism ???
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any t410 users here? what upgrades did you make? how is your battery life?
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>>52444932
here, got 6 gigs of ram, an ssd and 1TB hdd. battery is shit. but i am keeping it in the dock now, so don't really matter.
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>>52444905
>tfw when you've just installed yosemite but you need a whitelisted bios due to none of the cards in the whitelist with with OSX
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>>52444932
The T410 is my only thinkpad. It came with 4GB, kept it like that but upgraded to an SSD. Even though it only has SATA2 it still boots everything fast.

I also ordered a new keyboard, the NMB one which is quite better than the mushy Alps and it came with antibacterial coating.

It also came with a 9-cell with ~780 cycles which make it last around 2 hours.
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>>52444932
intel integrated to nvidia
expresscard usb3.0
battery is shot, ~30 minutes with 9 cell
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post thinkpad uptimes
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>>52444709
Here's some real cons, no bullshit. Coming from an owner of six memepads to date.
>heavier and bulkier than most other laptops
>stupidly expensive to buy new
>unimpressive cooling and screens on anything smaller than the 15" models
>retarded default fan settings, fan normally won't even turn on until the CPU hits 65C or something like that. TPFC and thinkfan exist to solve this problem, fortunately
>"dated" appearance won't earn you any normie points, will be constantly explaining that the lelnovo computers that had preloaded spyware are a wholly separate division from Thinkpads
>shitty design decisions by lelnovo have made them progressively worse over time, not as bad as some exaggerate but the quality difference between a T60 and a T420 is very clear when you own both, I can only imagine how bad it is for even newer models
>wifi cards are BIOS whitelisted, you need to use a custom BIOS if you want to use another card besides the default options
>no single "best" Thinkpad, all models have compromises somewhere
>bad market outside of US, but I suppose that's true of most tech

As for why there's a general, they're very /g/-friendly laptops. As someone so eloquently put it in a /tpg/ long past, Thinkpads have really good "open that bitch up"-ability. Some models support libreboot for the freetards among us, and they have good Linux support in general. There's also a sizable modding community around them, with creations such as "Frankenpads" where two Thinkpads are combined into one featuring the best of both models, and various BIOS mods to extend the lifespan of models, such as Middleton's BIOS that enables SATA II support, removes the wifi whitelist, and grants access to some other useful features for *61 generation Thinkpads.
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>>52430138
I'd like to game, but I need the portablility of a laptop. Debating a ThinkPad. Is this the right brand for me, and if so, which laptop should I get?

I have 5mbps internet
I don't want to play next-gen games, if it'll run Skyrim ~60fps it's plenty enough for me.
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guys, ThinkPad T440p is good? i saw it has a intel M series core, which is better than U series...
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>>52445896
>Skyrim ~60fps
You won't be able to do that unless you use an eGPU. So any of the models with an express card slot and a 750ti.
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>>52445896
Battery Life isn't really important

I am moderatley knowledgeable on computer hardware, but most stuff goes over my head so I need help buying stuff

>tfw poorfag so needs a cheap laptop instead of a desktop

If i am being unrealistic of my expectations price-wise just tell me
I don't have a particular budget, but just need it to be inexpensive
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>>52445976
That's my biggest hope. Less than that is okay.

Also, I'm not great with hardware so I don't really know what you just said. Thanks for trying though
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>>52445252
thank you
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>>52445896
Not the best choice, not really. I couldn't point you in the right direction but the thing is that Thinkpad GPUs are workstation GPUs, not your usual consumer Geforce/Radeon cards. Their drivers are optimized for CAD and things like that, not vidya, so you see worse performance than you'd get out of the equivalent consumer card.

That said, look at the W510, W520, or T430. Any of them should be good enough to do what you want. Of the three, the W520 will have the best CPU and GPU performance (make sure you get one with the Quadro 2000M, not the 1000M), but is the heaviest (same as W510) and most expensive. W510 will be the cheapest, but CPU performance and battery life are the worst. The T430 will have the least GPU performance as it only has an entry-level NVS card while the W series pack high-end Quadros, but it will be the most portable and have the best battery life of the three by a long shot. It's also worth noting that the W models have far better screens than the T430, with much better color accuracy and up to 1080p resolution. T430 is limited to 1600x900 and won't be anything impressive to look at.
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>>52445896
fucking /v/fags

grow up kid, nothing personel
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what do you guys think:

ThinkPad T440p
Intel® Core™ i5 4300M (i liked because is not U)
8GB DDR3L ( 1600 MHz ) - MÁX: 16GB
SSD 128GB 7200RPM

or should i get the same with 500gb hdd?
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>>52445017
how can you tell the cycle count on batteries?
GNU/Linux or Windows?
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>>52446408
>ganoo
tlp
>wangblows
thinkvantage power manager
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>>52435514
>Team Fortress 2
>Nintendo DS
>Gameboy Advance

Anon how old are you exactly?
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>>52445074
damn...
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>>52446417
>tlp
Thank you.
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>>52446441
69
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>>52430138
Still have my IBM thinkpad from the late 90s. Screen's fucked but it runs fine. Is it worth replacing the screen?
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Hello /tpg/, I'm attending university this year in the fall and I'd like to buy a laptop that can last me throughout all 4 years. I am thinking about buying a thinkpad because of my major (electrical engineering) but new thinkpads are still very expensive. Are there any used models that are still viable for college or should I just bite the bullet and buy a new computer?

>budget is <$1000
>good battery life (preferrably 6+ hours) that retains charge over the years
>not too heavy/small form factor
>ample hard drive/ssd space
>can last 4+ years

pic related is my university's requirements as well
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>>52446712
T430 or T420

T420 has better keyboard but T430 has better battery life, pick your poison
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About to replace my battery for the T410. Should I go with a lithium ion or something else?
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>>52431906
No Time stamp, no choice

>>52433480
Slapping a random SSD will make it fly.
14" is a bit big for a tablet, for me at least.
Gonna get an X220T with a fucked up keyboard for $100, I can't deal with my X61T anymore, it's dying.
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bought t440p and can't get my ssd (that didn't come with the laptop) to boot. any ideas? tried fucking around with uefi.
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Damn, there's a mint W520 sitting in one of those Target B-stock stores. It's way overpriced(600 US), but I still want to take it home and raise it on sound Christian values.
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>>52431906
No Time stamp, no choice

>>52433480
Slapping a random SSD will make it fly.
14" is a bit big for a tablet, for me at least.
Gonna get an X220T with a fucked up keyboard for $100, I can't deal with my X61T anymore, it's dying.

>>52441001
Get the T420, better performance.

>>52440707
Z60 laptops are widescreen, SATA HDD versions of the T43(p), it is the second laptop produced by Lenovo after the X41 Tablet.

M or p for 15"
T for 14"
E is shit... Worst/basic specs
Build wise, they are like the L series, not as strong as T or X, maybe better than E series.

Enthusiast like these models, 'p' models can come with WUXGA displays which are great, I had an WSXGA+ model and it's nice.
Some had an optional titanium lid instead of the typical black finish.
Z61 models are a T60 laptop, there is no T61 Z series equivalent.

I tried swapping a T400 board onto a Z61t, it's impossible, totally different layout.
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>>52445896
Don't buy a ThinkPad unless you're going to dish out $800 for a W540/541/550s
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>>52447079
That was one good anime
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>>52446712
A x2/30 with i7 and ips is like what $350 on ebay? Buy that and use the rest of the $ on ram, a new panasonic 9 cell, msata ssd , and 1tb hdd.
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>>52444796
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>>52447520
Looks like a new and not a refurb battery. pretty good deal anon
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>>52447580
feeling pretty good about it right now, just hoping it doesn't crap out on me in the next year or so, I'll try to find a good deal on a replacement for my other battery next (just filed for a nice tax refund ;)
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T430 or T430s?
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http://www.amazon.com/F555LA-AB31-15-6-inch-Full-HD-Laptop-Windows/dp/B011KFQASE

Hi, I was asking for advice earlier any of you know if there is a thinkpad as good as this one, or at least close to it's performance?
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Looking to buy a laptop with nvidia gtx 970m, so far cheapest one I found is http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX59268 for $1599 cad is there any cheaper one or better one for a little bit more?
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http://m.ebay.com.au/itm/LENOVO-X230-LAPTOP-ULTRABOOK-CORE-i5-8GB-RAM-120GB-SSD-NEW-DOCKING-STATION-/172060867222?nav=SEARCH

Can anyone tell me if this is a decent deal?
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I switched from windows 7 to linux mint and saw like a 20 C temperature drop on idle, is it just the sensors being inaccurate or is windows 7 really that heavy?
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Hey you thinkfags. Is this X series worth it? Is it worth my time to try and find a decent x200/201 so I can maybe use the pen and twist it's screen around sometimes? Or should I just say fuck it and get the T series. I imagine it's not too great with software like photoshop or so anyways.
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>>52448922
the x220 tablet is really nice. x200/201 might be starting to show its age.
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T520
i7 2860qm
16gb
500gb ssd
1080p FHD LCD

Yay or nay?
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>>52449119
if you want a laptop that big yay
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>>52449119
how much
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>>52449294
650
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>>52449313
USD?
unless the SSD is brand new i'd try to talk them down $100~
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>>52449354
SSD Im buying myself but I calculated it into the cost.

This would be my first thinkpad for college. Will it be fast?
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>>52447691
T420 blaze it

430 can suck a dick
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>>52449390
i'm pretty sure that i7 sits around the same tier as an i5 2500, so yeah, it's pretty good. it's gonna be heavy to lug around though.

i had to carry a 15" laptop for highschool (13 onwards; aus) and it fucked up my shoulder so weight is something to keep in mind
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>>52440707
>>52447128

Thanks for the details. I want to buy a pre-2008 Thinkpad but I want it to be a more "known" series because of availability of suport/experiences/drivers and of course replacement parts.

Being a rare format and less rugged than T series, I guess Z60m isn't for me.

Thanks!
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It's not even a quad core why does it cost so much, aren't W series thinkpads supposed to act as desktop replacements? what good is a dual core when I need at least a modern quad core cpu + IPS FHD

http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w550s/
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>>52449785
cashing in with the thin and light ultraportable workstation fad that dell created with the m3800

but unlike dell they didn't put a quad core in

buy a t460p
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>>52450307
thank m8 I'll take a look around on eBay, my x220t just isn't cutting it any more
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Debating if I should buy a T420 for work or just a T400.

I'm mostly going to do Office stuff.
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>>52434315
>has an i3
>says t420 to slow
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I have more of a general laptop question, I hope you don't get mad.

So I borrowed a laptop from a friend, because I started to work night shifts and got lots of spare time. It's not a top tier laptop, but it's pretty good, like 2 years old.

I played some vidya, and I was suprised how loud and hot it got. After 2 hours the exhaust vents were hot enough probably burn you if you held hand there for too long, and so did the keyboard.

So basically my question is, how well are laptops designed to handle thermal stress during long periods of time?

I was thinking of maybe getting one, and using as desktop replacement but thinking of letting the laptop run for 10 hours + a day with this being like 6+ hours under stress doesn't seems to healthy for a hardware.

And my old desktop CPU never really got hotter than 55c, fan ran pretty quiet too (GPU as well).
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I tried to upgrade my T60 from XGA to UXGA, got the screen installed, and it doesn't work. No image, no light, even Thinklight won't turn on. Do I have to replace the inverter board too? Someone said I didn't have to, but the screen isn't working so I don't see any other possibility.
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>>52452151
must just have a single tiny fan over the CPU. they're not really made to be pushed hard 24/7 unless you get a workstation
you can get a laptop cooler that sits under it i guess but i don't have any experience with those
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>>52452151
Varies. The rise of the chiclet-keyboard-shoved-into-chassis (note: does not apply to ThinkPads, not even the chiclet keyboard ones) design is a contributor to hot keyboards
The hot air coming out of the heatsink isn't really a bad thing I guess - it means a combination of hardware using a fair bit of power, the heatsinks actually doing their job and the fan speed still being a bit low
It's an inevitable consequence of being a laptop so don't lose sleep over it unless you tip into the 90s on a regular basis. Besides, it'll throttle if it gets too hot for its liking anyway

As long as the actual temperatures aren't too bad then it should be alright. I force my X220t to export pictures in Lightroom and IDC for hours on end and it hasn't shit the bed yet.

However
>gaming
>laptop
Pick one

>>52452161
SXGA+ and UXGA use different boards to XGA iirc but it shouldn't hate you like that since the inverter is mainly for the backlight
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