>Literally "it just werks" the distro
Its great if you run the Ubuntu-compatibles, always had issues with Slacko. Community packages for Xfce and Lxde are readily available, and I work in gcc and nodejs on my install. It's worth installing for sure, but be prepared to browse the murga forums if you want obscure software. The quickpet covers most people's needs though.
T. Someone who used puppy as his DD for like six months and has it installed as dualboot.
>Know a lot about manipulating gnu/linux to install non-pet packages
>Know just little enough to not have the need to install non-preinstalled resources
Is a distro for a very specific task to accomplish (that'll be to run in old or very low spec PCs)
Is a very niche thing, which if it doesn't suit those specific needs, can be a pain in the ass.
>because I never found beginner documentation for GNU/Linux
I have a slow machine
>chinese botnet detected
>he didn't read the eula
>Normiecucks thinking Remix OS is a real distro
I originally switched from Windows to elementary OS on my Laptop because I liked the looks and fell in love with the functionality. Then I switched to something more customizable and have been loving it ever since.
Any info on your wifi card? Ethernet?
From what I understand q45 doesn't have internet does it? I need to know what kind of cards you use for that.
Your intel graphics is supported since at least 2010. I'd assume you're in good hands there.
A PCBSD ISO used as a LiveCD will quickly determine if your whole array of hardware works or not.
PCBSD is indeed rock solid and stable. I don't know how, but it feels snappier than normal FreeBSD.
Please backup any stuff first online or on a seperate drive. Make sure you have a normal windows disc or ubuntu/mint disc to move back to incase it doesn't work out.
> (there is a free replacement on all current systems, but it lacks certain features that GNU/Linux doesn't require
>but it lacks certain features that GNU/Linux doesn't require
what does that mean?
It's a desktop, so I don't have a WLAN adapter installed. As for ethernet, lspci lists 82567LM-3. The linux driver I'm using is e1000e.
I used to run FreeBSD 7 on one of my servers, but for my desktop I'm kinda interested in NetBSD desu (hopefully that doesn't offend you :3 ). Know anything about it?
>It's a desktop, so I don't have a WLAN adapter installed. As for ethernet, lspci lists 82567LM-3. The linux driver I'm using is e1000e.
>I used to run FreeBSD 7 on one of my servers, but for my desktop I'm kinda interested in NetBSD desu (hopefully that doesn't offend you :3 ). Know anything about it?
First, if FreeBSD 7 is your last release, allow me to extend to you a warm welcome back to FreeBSD anon. 11-CURRENT is superb.
NetBSD is fine as well. Try it all and see what you jive with.
I am not familiar with NetBSD, however. I hear their port system can be used cross platform. (https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/platforms.html)
Say it in l33t speak
I'd suggest OpenBSD for a desktop BSD. I've found it to be great. A lot of the devs eat their own dogfood and use it as a desktop system, meanwhile I've heard FreeBSD devs have scoffed at people for trying, they view it as a server and VM system. Not sure how NetBSD is about things though, nothing wrong with trying both out
Awesome! Thank you for your help and admirable manners. I have a new file server to set up, so I'll give it a go on there. Yeah, the reason I mentioned NetBSD is because I've been wanting to give pkgsrc(7) a try.
OpenBSD is also fine to try.
>meanwhile I've heard FreeBSD devs have scoffed at people for trying, they view it as a server and VM system.
Meanwhile, FreeBSD is the only BSD with NVIDIA drivers. We bent over backwards getting DRI in core.
I don't know who gave you this impression anon, but if they were committers who only used FreeBSD for servers - more power to them, it doesn't mean we don't care about Desktops or Notebooks.
There are tons of FreeBSD devs.
Off the top of my head, at least one of the FreeBSD core guys uses an X series Thinkpads.
I think Linus is the one who talked about the Macbook.
I use FreeBSD, and yes, they are the ones who let themselves be buttpenetrated by Apple and other evil capitalists.
I'd switch to OpenBSD ASAP if I didn't have a shitty Nvidia card.
I don't want to use FreeBSD. I want to use OpenBSD.
I just can't.
>Meanwhile, FreeBSD is the only BSD with NVIDIA drivers
This is true. It's too bad Nvidia's not nicer about releasing documentation. I personally don't mind no Nvidia support (all of my laptops have Intel graphics except for one with a GeForce FX Go5200, but the software rasterizer works fine for my uses, and all of my desktops have AMD cards) but I can see how it's an issue for others.
>Are the FreeBSD devs the ones who exclusively use MacBooks?
I've heard on /g/ that a lot of them dd OS X and that they use and develop FreeBSD in a VM and never really touch bare metal with it themselves, but remember this is coming from /g/
I've been debating switching my server to FreeBSD as OpenBSD won't really cut it at the moment but the shit going on with the devs is really making me want to stay away. I'm probably going to see how NetBSD goes.
>This is true. It's too bad Nvidia's not nicer about releasing documentation.
What's so hard about using nvidia-xconfig?
What do you need help with? You should install the driver and you're good to go.
Regardless it's interesting. Apple was originally porting NetBSD code into Darwin for OS X, I wonder if they fell back on one of their initial reasons to choose NetBSD that happens to still stand
>using outdated bloated shit distros
fuck off memelord
USE CASES OF DISTROS:
Too much time on their hands: Gentoo
Boring office stuff like spread sheets: Red Hat, CentOS
Gaming and noobs general: Ubuntu
Entry-level coding: Debian
Reale serious coding, top-end server stuff and hacking: Arch
never looked into fedora, because >pic related
i guess i can check it out
did you just suggest me to use windows? no offence here, but I am forced to use winblows for several weeks (have to study for exam, need VS...) and it's total and complete shit, jesus, i'd rather swim in cat piss than use windows for my daily desktop os
It isn't slow for me and I haven't encountered bugs yet.
How is it silly? What is a better package manager in your opinion?
I disagree with this statement. Out of all distros I have used it is the best for me.
The recovering of errors is pretty dumb with apt. I have had issues with this in the past but the solution is to wait till you can upgrade without breaking stuff.
I will look into portage && dnf now thanks anon
I used to use Xubuntu but I am currently switching to Fedora since my big breasted wife kept making fun of me saying it was a pleb distro. I hit her, every day this week.
I update almost daily
and I am on arch for over a year
I've been on Debian Sid for a few months and I've only run into extremely minor issues so far. Something like two or three programs needed me to install an older version of a library, that was it.
>top-end server stuff
dude, arch packages regress all the time. I use arch on my laptop and I love it, but I'm still seriously considering replacing it on my server with debian even though I fucking hate the debian community.
>it's downhill from there.
wow what a great argument point my friend you really got me with that one.
How about you formulate some actual points as to why Arch's community is better than Debian's, rather than "no bullshit I probably know nothing about and haven't done any research on, also other stuff I'm not going to mention because I'm making it up"
debian community is stuffy, autistic and full of moralfags and psychos, such as people who get shot by cops and cause endless systemd drama
arch community is focused on making shit work and has produced the most comprehensive documentation in the linux community
Kubuntu on a laptop.
I like KDE, Akonadi and stuff, but it's full of bugs and not terribly efficient. Ubuntu is Ubuntu. Not recommending it to anyone.
But i'm also the kind of guy that plays on steam on linux on a dual-boot laptop because too lazy to restart, and I'm still using Opera 12.17 (fantastic piece of software imho).
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/g/ Which distro do you use ?
>the most comprehensive documentation in the linux community
wow, way to make my point for me
>number of results in an online bookstore
>no relevance to something's abundance of documentation
Why don't people accept CentOS as their lord and savior? It's pretty stable, has community (admit it you have at least searched your problem and found the solution online about 100 times) and acceptable resource requirements. You can just go absolute minimum if you want the Arch linux experience without the added instability.
And yet I have never found a solution to any GNU/Linux related problem that's not from the last century on the Debian wiki. The only wikis with actual information, configuration tricks and troubleshooting tips are the Arch wiki and Gentoo wiki. Even the Ubuntu wiki sometimes.
You may dislike Arch, but the wiki is great.
Finally, finally unified my Linux use to a single(-ish) distro: Ubuntu LTS. Kinda comfy to finally not be jumping between Debian stable, Debian sid, Crunchbang and Mint depending on the computer I'm connected to. Never mind that one server I had that was running CentOS.
All of my laptops/desktops are Mint 17 (Cinnamon), which is based on 14.04, plus a few updated packages and a newer kernel. Both my personal servers and those I interface with at work are all Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as well.
I used to be on the Canonical hate train. Main thing that changed was I wanted to get stuff done and not fuck with the minutia.
When I started nobody used stable except for servers. It was just too far out of date, while the software got noticeably better at a noticeable rate. Testing was a good compromise except for the freeze, where you got locked out of improvements and new packages for months.
So Sid. It never really caused problems until the last year or two.
To use Sid without issues I have found that avoiding updates when Debian releases a new stable version and allows experimental packages into Sid. Even then if you check that the update doesn't remove critical packages then you can update if you feel lucky.
I have been using unstable for my desktop and I haven't had any headaches with it so far.
You're not using Debian for the latest packages, you must know this by now. Use it for stability only, i.e. Debian Stable. If you miss more up to date packages, either use backports http://backports.debian.org/ or a different OS entirely.
Same. I can't speak to recent years but from 2010-2014 I ran sid on my 2 primary machines (one laptop, one desktop). Only ever had a single major issue, and it was my fault for not diffing a config file I had altered with one that was overridden in an update, despite apt prompting me to. Took like 10 seconds of googling too, because a dozen other people had been bitten by it.
Like I said, can't speak to these days, but 4 years and only one major issue is far less than the number of issues I've experienced on Windows and OS X in the same period of time.
I can't decide between Manjaro or Debian. So I just default to Windows 10.
> Please note that security updates for "unstable" distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, "unstable" does not get security updates in a timely manner.
Well, this does not sound very reliable to me, mate.
People ill need a savior such as systemd.
That's just a disclaimer. In reality unstable packages are updated frequently.
>Packages haven't gone through any testing yet. That's not very stable in my book.
Debian "unstable" contains what upstream releases as "stable".
>That's just a disclaimer. In reality unstable packages are updated frequently.
It's not a disclaimer. You're only fooling yourself. https://www.debian.org/security/faq#unstable
>>Packages haven't gone through any testing yet. That's not very stable in my book.
>Debian "unstable" contains what upstream releases as "stable".
This is precisely why you use Stable, because what upstream releases as 'stable' is known to contain bugs. Please subscribe to the Debian security announce mailing lists.
Sure thing, chief.
>upstream releases as 'stable' is known to contain bugs
Upstream releases typically include security updates.
How am I supposed to develop new Debian packages without running unstable myself?
It's Spanish and pronounced ma-tay, poseur.
>The name “MATE”, pronounced Ma-Tay, comes from yerba maté, a species of holly native to subtropical South America. Its leaves contain caffeine and are used to make infusions and a beverage called mate.
I use Ubuntu 14, but I have a problem.
I have a Wacom Intuos art medium tablet that won't work with it, but my old Graphire 4 from 2005 does.
What's up with that? I want to use my newer tablet.
lmaoing at all the noobuntu losers
>not enjoying arch without having autism
why cant all these noobs put screenfetch in their .bashrc instead of triggering my autism?
Ubuntu and mint. There's honestly no other point in any others unless you're a ricer or really REALLY love headaches. Well there is most of the Buntu shit
Pleae explain how you got it to work! I've been working on it all night and today and can't get any where!
its not that it's "real" it's that it's something people want to do things on their computers you can't do on your computer. Emulating only gets you so far
>shitty android apps
have you played the Com2Us games?
Those games are amazing and I would love to have them on PC.
but they wont make them for steam. I guess making a game for android is easier. Bluestack is annoying as fuck to work with. And they want you to buy it and will bug you till you do.
Vboxing can only do so much
First line in the wikipedia article
Mate (Spanish: [ˈmate], Portuguese: [ˈmatʃi]; sometimes hypercorrected as maté in English
They can't even describe their own DE name correctly.