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>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

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>>52409829
THAT'S NOT MAKI
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>>52409860
Nobody gives a shit about Maki you dumb weeaboo.

Now shut up and discuss headphones.
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Time to order some Mad Dogs before it's too late.

Shame the Alphas aren't available in black anymore.
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>>52409951
>Mad Dogs
Why would you? They suck. You already have a good open and a good closed headphone.
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>>52409969
Please elaborate on why you think they suck. Have you heard them yourself or are you basing your opinion on the words of others?
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>that feel when K7xx master race
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>>52409996
They sound muffled, they are close to the Momentum in measurements but I'll give the edge to the Momentum because it has more gain in the lower treble which makes it sound more natural.
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best wafiu coming through
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>beyer earrape
>cuck waifu
>hipster music
>bose
>poor man amp/dac
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>>52409996
have you heard of measurements before?
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>Budget - $200 (maybe $300 with an amp)
>Location - US
>Source - PC. Asus Maximus VI Gene z87 with supremefx audio right now
>Preferred type of headphone - over ear
>Open or closed - Open
>Comfort level - Above Average
>Preferred tonal balance - neutral
>Preferred music - Indie Rock/Electronic/Trance
>Past headphones - Sony MDR-7506

Again, looking to spend $200 on headphones, maybe $300 including an amp. Been looking at the AKG K7XX, but of course I only have 4 days to make the decision there before the drop ends. Wondering if anyone has any input for/against them.
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>>52410266
So you base your opinion on measurements, and I won't be taking you seriously.

Got it.
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>>52410418
what about measurements existing means its the only metric someone goes off of? why cant one do both? and why do you not even include them in your "ways of knowing what something sounds like"? afraid they might perhaps show something you dont want to see?
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>>52410409
Someone else can clarify, but I believe the K7XXs are basically a more bassy version of the K702s. If you could find some K702s for cheaper than $200, used or something, it might be worth it to you. I ordered K702s a couple days ago based on advice from people here and they haven't even arrived yet, so I can't tell you my opinion on them yet, but I also considered the K7XXs briefly before ordering the K702s. I bought mine used on amazon for about $170
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these have an ass terrible mic but they actual headphones are pretty good.
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>>52410455
You and your assumptions are gross. You also have no point because the Mad Dogs measure quite well.

I'd prefer talking to the AKG over you delusional faggots any day.
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>>52410571
the*
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>>52410572
AKG shills*
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>>52410572
No it doesn't.
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>>52410409
HD558.

K7XX isn't neutral.
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I just lost my Soundmagic E10s and I'm thinking of making a small upgrade.

Are the E80s worth it, or are there better IEMs in the ~$50 range?

Balance isn't a huge deal, but preferably something neutral to bassy.
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>>52411191
>le poorfag face
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How does this thread exist year after year? I really don't get it.
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>>52411466
>replies with memes
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Is there really a difference between the K701 702 and the Q701s? From looking at sound charts they look basically the same.
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Is EQ really everything? Can I EQ m50x into a x2?
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>>52411363
LG QuadBeat 3. It's neutral in mids/highs but has a bass boost that's mostly sub-bass.

>>52411496
K701, K702 and Q701 are the same internally. K7XX and K712 are different.

>>52411497
You can EQ a M50 to sound like an X2 and better.
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>>52411526
>You can EQ a M50 to sound like an X2 and better.
how? Then whats the point of paying more than $150 in this game?
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>>52411566
Perceived quality. And for manufacturers to make profit of course.
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>>52411496
http://www.head-fi.org/t/752994/my-akg-comparison-k7xx-k712-65th-annies-and-the-rest-to-stop-this-confusion

just go with k7xx they have superior memory foam pads for better comfort and bass. at worst you swap the pads for $40 and have a black q701 but if if you get the k/q701s upgrading the pads will cost $90 from akg
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>>52411583
but what about nigga bass and bass mud from m50x? Can you EQ it?
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>>52411596
This review has tons of misinformation being stated.
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>>52411596
I'm going to assume the K7XX are also open back like it's brothers.
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>>52411604
You can EQ the bass response on the M50 to sound more desirable to your ears or to a flatter response based on available frequency response graphs online.

So the answer to your question is yes.
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guys i have this genius marketing plan. seriously hear me out.

we spend all our money to first make a quite neutral headphone. doesnt have to be perfect, just pretty good. once we have it, and it gets pretty good reviews, lets make shitloads of other models based on it, with very minimal changes in the FR for each one. not so minimal that you cant hear anything though - no, you need to be able to hear something, but it should still be quite subtle.

now everyone is not only going to be praising our original, but talking about all our other successful models. not only will they say were great because of how many neutral models we have, but people will spend time talking about which ones are -actually- the best after extensive useless measurements. not to mention, they will also argue about it, tooth and nail like audiophiles always have about theirs obviously being the best one. not only will this create tons of posts everywhere to give our brand massive free advertising, but tons of people will end up buying many of the models - just to hear it for themselves! were going to be rich.

oh wait, someone already beat me to the punch... AKG.
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>>52411770
>AKG
no thanks to be quite honest family
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>>52411497
>Is EQ really everything?
To sound quality? Strongly, but not quite all of it. Headphone listeners tend to very strongly underestimate how much sound quality is just EQ, but it is still not all of it.
There was a study showing several headphones equalized to the same target. Rating went something like

QC15=SR-009>K701>Beats Studio>>MDR-V600

The much maligned Bose is rated just as good as the Stax flagship after EQ. The other headphones performed below that, the Sony in particular being considered subpar with the same target.

For IEMs, it usually is the entire sound quality. A well picked in-ear for like 20 bucks gives you very excellent sound after EQ, even if the FR is screwy.
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>>52411814
>but it is still not all of it.
So what's the rest?

Or was the study unable to figure it out?
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I hate being a looksfag, but I love how my monoprice 8323s look with the white replacement pads.

Also, they still sound pretty great for the price point.
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Is Yodobashi Camera a decent place to buy from?
I would like to buy a decent pair for the flight home so I'm looking for a physical purchase but I don't know how their prices are comparatively to other stores in Tokyo.
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>>52411857
Not sure about prices but it's worth a visit, some consider it the mecca of headphone stores.
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>>52411494
It's really slow today. Perhaps it's finally dying.

That might be a good thing.

It's 90% shitposting.
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>>52412012
its not that it's slow now you newfag
it was just fast the last 2 months because of needed advice for holiday money spending
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>>52411814
*stock FR is screwy

Distortion is also generally very low with the cheap in-ear sets, and higher on more expensive ones. The dynamic driver present advantages in linearity over the balanced armatures found in pricier in-ears, although you could counter that the armature distortion can be managed.

>>52411840
>So what's the rest?
Non-linear distortions.
Non-linearity was being considered in general, the goal of the study was to identify ways to analyze distortion measurements. You can read the study yourself on the /g/wiki if you like, its name is "The Correlation between Distortion Audibility and Listener Preference in Headphones".

THD sorta works as a predictor of "badness", but the "non-coherence" analysis seemed to make the distinction most clear between the worst rated headphones.
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Can I have some suggestions?
Budget: 300$ CAD
Location: Canada
Source: USB port most likely
Preferred type: Full sized
Open or closed: Closed
Comfort level: Preferably high as I will use them quite a bit
Tonal balance: Bassy
Preferred music: 80's rock, electronic, dubstep
Past headphones: Steelseries Siberia V2
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>when your $200 speakers are infinitely more enjoyable and better sounding than your $1600 headphones
Just cuck my shit up, senpai.

At some point in the not-too-distant-future when I move and get a better room I honestly see myself selling these to get better speakers, not gonna lie.
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>>52412093
What speakers do you use? Mine are shitty af.
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>>52412090
DT770 Pro 80 ohm, surely you have an audio port on your motherboard?
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>tfw
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>>52412108
JBL LSR305.
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>>52411857
I know of Fujiya Avic, not much else since I don't live in Japan

>>52412093
Ditch the HD800S? I wasn't even sure why you got it in the first place.
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>>52412154
are you daft? in the very post you link to, its quite obvious he continues to use his hd800s but regrets his inability to use speakers full time because of his living arrangements.

your iq must be sub 90 if you cannot figure out what i just explained from his post
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>>52412168
maybe he's implying the hd800s is shit?

I haven't seen measurements besides the ghetto rigged ones on changstar
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>>52412180
hes saying he wants to get better speakers. if someone that has enough money to buy hd800s doesnt like their hd800s, they will sell it, buy what they thought was better, and then change their picture
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What are some good over ear headphones under $100 that are good for videos/music/games?
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>>52412122
Yes I do, these headphones look like a good option.
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>>52412168
What do you think I just said?
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>>52412190
no, I'm referring to the poster you called out as low-IQ
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>>52412168
>>52412180
More or less what I'm implying is, in my experience, headphones can't and probably never will hold a candle to good loudspeakers. It may just be a preference thing. I won't be letting go of the HD800S anytime soon, the comfort is god-tier and the large windows in my room leak a lot of sound to the neighbour so I try to use headphones late at night.
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>>52412202
theres no such thing as "good for x or y." they are either good, or they are shit.

the form is there for you to fill out. do you need open or closed? where do you live?
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>>52412213
oh i see. i suppose he could be, but thats still nothing much to do with the first poster. he likes his hd800s the most, he just wants to use speakers because he thinks theyre better... thats still plainly obvious

>>52412211
ditch his favorite headphone? why?
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>>52412221
Jesus McNuggies Christ!

Closed/Overear/$150 max/general listening/
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>>52412240
right, hd800s might be his favorite but it's not too impressive regarding fidelity.

Now I haven't heard it but I don't care to

Besides that point, the LSR305s are decent speakers which I've had the pleasure of hearing
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>>52412218
Was also touching on the general misconception people seem to have that a speaker setup comparable to, say a $100 headphone, will cost you at least $600-$1000 and that TOTL headphones are equivalent to kilobuck/5digit speakers.
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>>52412139
Why isn't your best headphone (HD598) pictured?

Silly me, you're probably listening to it. It's the best headphone you own after all.
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I'll try again

Closed/Overear/$150 max/general listening/

What do you recommend????
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>>52412349
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
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>>52412240
I was asking to be sure. And I recall us having a conversation about his gear purchases before.

Some months ago:
>I want to get a Benchmark DAC2
>I would recommend [something else]
>I can get it used for cheap and I live in Nowhere, New Zealand, so [something else] isn't for sale locally, and it isn't on used market
An undervalued customs declaration later, his DAC2.

More recently:
>orders HD 800S from Jan Meier, priced about the same HD 800 locally
>posts about delivery updates from time to time
I missed out on the why he picked 800S.
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Which is better for general listening Sennheiser HD 280 Pro or Sony MDR7506 Professional?
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>>52412489
The latter by far.

Also the latter is more comfortable.

The HD280 Pro's niche over the Sony was that it is better for noisier environments because it has a tighter clamp which gives it better isolation.
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>>52412328
because its veiled garbage, i dont even want to remember i own it
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>>52412536
AHAHAHHA SENNSHITS GOT BTFO
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>>52412381
I think you recommended the Lynx Hilo, but that was more expensive anyway.
>I missed out on the why he picked 800S.
Because of the shape of the earcups/comfort, detachable cables and similar sound sig to my 880s. Also their resale value, being Senns. The main thing that held me back with the HD800 was the sibilance/crazy 6KHz peak so when I saw the measurements showing the S had addressed it well, I was sold.

Also my previous audition of the HD800 led me to believe they'd sound better at home than in-store and possibly be more comparable to my speakers, but I guess not.

If there were a headphone with the HD800 enclosure and an HD650 sound sig I think go for that over this though.

In any case the option to sell is always there, especially when the local price of these is going to be at least $400 more than I paid.
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>>52412536
>HD598
>veiled

Yet it somehow manages to sound clearer than the K702 when I listened to both.

Maybe you should plug them into a zero-ohm source.
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Opinions on MDR-V6/MDR-7506
Any other good mostly neutral headsets in the price range?
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>>52412571
So you never eq them?
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>>52412621
I have Maki anon's EQ + my own addition (or more accurately, my subtraction) to it right now. I'm also on the list for the SBAF mod.
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>>52412571
It was the Hilo, didn't feel the need to mention again because of the large price disparity.
Did Anax keep you away from Changstar?
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>>52412714
Nah I just never bothered registering and posting there, I guess it becoming SBAF made me change my mind for some reason. Anax's mods never really addressed the peak that well anyway. Also he was autistic about HD800s, I've seen posts where he'd brag about how he went to shows and none of the speakers compared to his 'amazing' HD800 setup which made me laugh.
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AKG MASTER RACE
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>>52412536
Damn, thank you for this post desu

>>52412584
Anybody who has heard a wide range of headphones knows they are garbage, if they are your only pair of headphones you'd never know any better.
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>>52412252
M50x
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What headphones do you people use when leaving the house that aren't earbuds? I'm using the AKG K518 but I hate the cord on it since it stands straight up and it's really easy to break. Are there any decent portable headphones that have a removable cord or are bluetooth headphones worth buying?
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>>52412252
AKG K553 pro
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>>52412801
are you by any chance over 35?
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>>52412882
bluetooth = shit
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>>52412882
I use IEMs so i dont look like an autist wearing full size headphones in public
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>>52412917
Giving a shit about what other people think about you for wearing headphones in public is autistic behavior, if anything
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>>52412882
Price range?
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>>52412901
24
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>>52412964
Doesn't really matter, anything below 150 bucks.
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Good news everyone! In an effort to combat shitposting, I've made a new template!
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>>52413346
lets be honest you asked for this.
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>>52413346
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>>52413444
109% meme
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>>52413346
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>>52413444
>>52413457
>only having 1 headphone
fucking casuals
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new template senpais
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anyone know of any in ear phones that are durable? I honestly don't care any more if they sound like shit I just don't want them to disintegrate whenever anything so much as looks at them funny

failing that I think I might buy as many 5 dollar headphones as I can and think of them as disposable.
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>>52413524
Are you the guy who used to have the beyers with the removed plate which had their model written on it?
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>>52413754
Still have them.
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>>52413684
This defeats the purpose.
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>>52413684
fuck off
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>>52413759
What are the 800s like? I'm planning on getting them
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>>52413773
memes
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>>52413773
Comfy.
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>>52413797
Your mom's a meme
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>>52413813
Why did you remove the plaque though? They look odd with those holes on the grills.
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>>52412044
It kind of puzzles me how little studies there are being done of these and how small they are. Are the effects of already well known or is there not enough interest or money to fund studies of it? Do you have any insight on this? Or maybe it's just the plethora of misleading and wrongful information from the consumer audio industry and online communities giving me this idea.

>>52412093
What makes you like speakers more? I find listening to speakers on my desk far less enjoyable than headphones. But the same pair of speakers in a better room and listening position are definitely better than any of my headphones.
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>>52413457
shit
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>>52413505
>when the AKG game too strong
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>>52413963
I'm this guy >>52413773 but he once said that he removed them just because he wanted them to look different or something
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Why would anyone get these over brainwavz hm5 pads?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ath-m50x-velour-earpads?referer=2YVXYC
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>microphone stops working
>ask /hpg/ to pick new headphones for me
>place an order for HyperX Cloud 1
>figure out next day microphone was just turned off, and it works perfectly
>yes, am i that retarded
Should i cancel the order or are they worth it over my current GameCom 388?
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>>52414294
They are worth it.

Also you're retarded
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>>52414294
>ask /hpg/ to pick new headphones for me
>place an order for HyperX Cloud 1
This would never happen, unless you gave a site with shit stock and then replied "THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE HERE" to better recommendations

they beat every other headset, but I would still cancer for better options
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>>52414306
Alright. Picking them up in an hour or so.

>>52414315
Retailers in my country are shit, so i'm guessing there was no better alternative.
Pic related is the choices i had.
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>>52414360
does amazon not deliver to your country?
there's very few countries they don't deliver to

I just checked & they should deliver to slovenia
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>>52414089
>What makes you like speakers more?
Treble linearity/smoothness, actual soundstage, sound is more enveloping (I'd expect this to be more the case for headphones but apparently not) plus the convenience of them. The only thing headphones have over them for me is bass impact (unless you have a fuckhuge sub) but with the HD800/S the drivers being further from your ears kinda eliminates the impact of it anyway. I know it's kind of a copout to say this but right now I can't even think of what exactly makes me go for the speakers most of the time, I just know when I listen to them that they're my preference.

I think I'll pick up a UMIK-1 later on to get a rough measurement for some EQ and maybe even throw together a cheapo headphone measurement rig.
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>>52414402
They do but i was in a hurry yesterday because i needed my mic.
Also, i figure all headphones that are considered good are in the 200€+ range which i'm not willing to spend.
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>>52413963
>They look odd with those holes on the grills.
They kinda do yeah but I still think they look better than with the plate on. I tried asking if I could get DT880 pro grill replacements but they only replace the entire cup and if I sent in premiums for replacement pro cups I don't know if they'd even go with it. It's funny because when I was first looking at buying them I preferred the look of the Premium but later on I started preferring the Pro more, aside from the black yoke.
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>>52414360
if it must be one in the picture then the kingston should be the best
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>>52414429
there's headphones in the 30€ range that are as good as the cloud hyperx and argueably better
there's headphones in the 80-90€ range that completely trump it
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>>52414429
just get a takstar pro 80
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>>52414527
well if he needs a mic, there's no point in getting a takstar pro 80 over a cloudx
especially when it's such a high price

it's 83€ on amazon co uk before shipping
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>>52414490
And probably good enough for a pleb like me.

>>52414515
Like >>52414551 pointed out, i want headset.
I'm way too lazy to glue a mic to the headphones if that's a thing, and a desk mic would just get in the way.
Shipping also costs quite a lot.
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>>52414581
what about a lavalier like the zmmic1, it's cheap and good
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>>52414611
Had to google those words.
An attachable microphone sounds like its too much of a hassle to constantly adjust and move around with.
Maybe if you attach it to the headphones themselves and join the cables somehow.
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>>52414706
the zmmic attaches to the headphone's cable, it has some small clips to attach to the headphone's wire all along the wire, but those are pretty shit
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Would like to read into DACs/amps, anyone got material/links where i could do so? The /g/ wiki provides fairly poor information about those compared to all the material on headphones.
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>>52414906
fiio e10k is the most you should need, if you want something better get a schiit stack or a odac+o2
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>>52414906
if you're not super hardcore, just get a fiio e10k, it doesn't have a ton of imputs or a lot of options, it's just a very decent dac/amp
Sale right now on massdrop
>it already ended again
fuck
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>>52414981
>>52415064
>anon asks material to study
>people recommend products

Besides E10k is not the option for everything, even if it's good for the price.

>>52414906
/g/ wiki has the link to a collection of papers uploaded to mega which you should check out. Hydrogenaudio wiki is a good source for information as are the Hydrogenaudio forums. NwAvGuy has great articles in his blog. You should read through it. It's explained in layman's terms so anyone can understand. Also we have the one anon here occasionally who is very knowledgeable of audio related stuff. He corrected some stuff regarding damping factor concept which NwAvGuy talks about in the blog. Not making him to spoonfeed info but he might be able to provide some places or sites to read about. Signals both digital and analog, psychoacoustics and circuits are all related to each other if you want to get a full picture of how things work and how they are perceived in actual listening. Here are two videos to watch about digital signals:

https://xiph.org/video/vid1.shtml
https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml
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JUST GOT MY ATNIGGERBASS M50X GUISE

they sound just like I expected

However I expected them to be tighter. Are people just over exaggerating when they say they're tight or did they change them to be less tight? I fear that they fly off my head when I move fast to the music
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>>52415832
i get it, the people on this board who buy the ATH M50x are boring people with a low metabolism so they're just not feeling as good and not going as fast as me.
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>>52415894
fuck I just realised I misread what you had typed, disregard me, I'm retarded.
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>>52415805
>>52415832
>>52415894
what's also funny is that when I use them on my PC the bass is just.... too much for whatever reason. Checked if any bass enhancements are enabled but everything is set to stock.

on my tablet (samshit pleblaxy tab s2 9.7) and phone (nexus 5) it sounds fine, way less bass.
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>>52412093
No shit? I thought this was common knowledge.

I don't understand how anyone would ever consider noise inside of your head superior to being enveloped by it in a room.
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>Budget - $100 - $300
>Location - Sweden
>Source - Fiio E10k
>Preferred type of headphone - over ear
>Open or closed - Both
>Comfort level - Comfort af
>Preferred tonal balance - neutral
>Preferred music - Old school hip hop.
>Past headphones - M50X, Fidelio X2.
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>>52415960
400i if you can find them for 300
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Has there ever been any gaming headphones that was actually worth its price, cheap or otherwise?
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>>52415970
cloud hyperx
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>>52415964

They cost so much more than that here where i live, is there similar headphone? i like mids btw
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>>52415984
HD600

You'll need something better than an E10K
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>>52415970

Qh-90, cloud
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>>52415995

I think im going to buy that in the future maybe when i can afford a better one!
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>>52415984
AKG K702/K612 + Fiio E10K and you basically get excellent sound, which is hard to beat even for more expensive setups/headphones.
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>>52416034

Ive been testing out the 702 and 701, and im sorry but they have no bass and i want some punchy bass but not to tight like my old x2. Neutral with punchy bass
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So what is it about the tightness of the M50X? when i move my head fast back and forth the headband lowers until i can feel the cups wanting to slide off my head to the front. not tight enough.
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>>52416051
Neutral with punchy bass = HD600

This is known
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>>52416063

I actually know that, ive tested them out and i love them! Im going to look at that :)
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>>52415960
AKG K702
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>>52415911
>what's also funny is that when I use them on my PC the bass is just.... too much for whatever reason
my desktop is like this, the back headphone jack is fine, the one on the front of the case is nobass, dunno why.
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>>52416051
>and im sorry but they have no bass and i want some punchy bass but not to tight like my old x2. Neutral with punchy bass

seems like you're a nigger that doesn't want to come out of the closet about being a nigger
maybe get the HD650s, which are one of the most nigger of open headphones
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>>52416051
>neutral
>punchy bass
this doesn't exist just use the bass boost on the fiio if you must have bass

>>52416063
>>52415995
sennshills
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>>52416089
>>52416063
>>52415995
>all these sennheiser shills
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>>52416089

>im white

im sitting in front of my pc so im actually out of the closet but i like the punchy bass on the hd600. You are probobly that nigger liking nobass headphones and cringin all the fucking time.
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>>52416051
> and im sorry but they have no bass and i want some punchy bass
Then it means that you're more of a basshead and that a neutral headphone wouldn't probably be the best for you. The HD600 won't grant you a better bass than the K702. Have you tried to enbale the bass boost on the E10K while testing the K702? You could look for a HD650 (but it may be too expensive for you) or, even better, for a Beyer DT880 250/600 ohm.
>but not to tight like my old x2.
X2's bass is everything but tight, dude. It bleeds into and overshadows other sounds too frequently.
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>>52416130

Some here doesnt understand haha.. when i call neutrality and bass i basically mean HD600 bass.. i want that punchy but like not bassy at all..
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>>52415960
AKG K702 has tight bass
the X2 has muddy bass
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>>52415960
maybe get k7XX?
they're a version of the K702 with more bass

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open
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>>52416149
Ok get a HD600 then and be happy with your placebo.
>punchy
It's really subjective. I find K702 bass without Fiio's bass boost punchy and entertaining enough to me.
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>>52416177

K702 = no bass
X2 = to much bass

imo
>>52416181

Im actually going to look at them now! Thanks!

>>52416182

It can be me being retarded when listening to headphones
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>>52416181

I just looked at them and i though they looked really nice and good! But massdrop doesnt ship them outside United states... :(
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>>52416218
>+ $25.00 shipping to Belgium
where do you live, anon
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>>52416218
>>52416225
oh

>we have negotiated exclusive pricing with a freight forwarding service to help certain individuals join this drop. If you join, please understand that you are purchasing this product and it will be delivered to a US address. It will then be processed for international shipping by a third-party forwarding company. Tracking will be provided.

>At check-out, international orders will be charged $25 for the third party freight forwarding service. You will need to input your shipping address as per a normal drop.

should still ship just fine
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>>52416083
do you have ATH M50X?

When you suspend them in mid air by holding 1 earcup are they so tight that the cups barely touch?? i fear that mine might be worn out or something so they arent as tight -.-
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>>52416225
>>>
> Anonymous 01/14/16(Thu)13:48:00 No.52416181 ▶>>52416194 >>52416218

Sweden
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>>52416194
>It can be me being retarded when listening to headphones
No it's not, it's simply a matter of different sound taste. If hip hop is all you listen to, I recommend you to stay with the X2.
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>>52416248

Ï really liked the X2 but i though the bass was to much and i really want some crispy mids on my headphones... Do u think AD900 is a option?
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>>52416247
see >>52416237
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>>52416245
DT770 80 ohm
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>>52416248

And in sweden the X2 costs about $220. cheap af
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>>52416285

Im going to chech some reviews and then i decide if im going to order them :)
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>>52416272
>mids
AKG K702 or K7XX
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>>52416315
prepare for a lot of complaints
most reviews will probably be from the first batch when there were some manufacturing problems

The K7XX are basically the K70...2? Anniversary Edition
So you could check those reviews for non massdrop exclusive reviews
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>>52415960
If you can push the 300 budget, HD 600.

>>52415995
>You'll need something better than an E10K
You don't.

>>52416089
>maybe get the HD650s, which are one of the most nigger of open headphones
They don't sound niggerbass at all.
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>>52416356
sennshill damage control
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anyone rec some heavily isolating headphones?

my pair of hm5's broke for the second time and im not waiting half a year for them to reship the broken pieces


by the way dont ever buy brainwavz hm5 unless you dont mind that they break within a year

do the dt 770s isolate a lot?
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>>52416400
Do you ever get tired of shitposting? Day after day the same shit when Sennheiser gets mentioned.

>>52416420
>do the dt 770s isolate a lot?
Yeah quite a bit.
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>>52416272
> i really want some crispy mids on my headphones...
Are you sure that you want this? Mids aren't as important as bass in hip hop.
> Do u think AD900 is a option?
From what I know many open AT lack bass. If K702 sounds like no bass for you, I doubt that you'll enjoy AD900.
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>>52416430
how much does sennheiser pay you to sit on this board all day and shill their shit products
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>>52416452
I never shill. I take that as a no from you.
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>MUH MEMEHEISER POSTS
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>>52416474
>i never shill
>constant shilling of sennheiser
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>>52416498
fuck off memefag
shill is if he's gettin big money for it

maybe he legitimately likes them
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>tfw
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>>52416509
>he does it for free
sennfags
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>>52416498
One recommendation in this thread for anon who asked neutral open headphones, stated a budget and has E10K. You can't do any better than HD 600 if sound quality is priority.
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>>52416539
>implying I'm the senncuck
lol fuck off faggot, sennheiser sucks in my opinion. in my OPINION. they just ain't for me.
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>>52416554
>You can't do any better than HD 600 if sound quality is priority
Yeah you can do better, Franz. HD600 may be over his budget and yet it's not the best headphone for him.
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>>52416557
>>52416539
>>52416509
>>52416498
>>52416491
>>52416452
>lol fuck off faggot, sennheiser sucks in my opinion. in my OPINION. they just ain't for me.
>my opinion
>ain't for me
The level of IQ on people who are fixated on a fucking brand right here folks.
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>>52416554
You can though because the E10K won't drive 600s properly. You would know this if you've ever listened to them.
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>>52416557
If you thought sennheiser was shit you wouldn't be shilling for them on /hpg/
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>>52416583
I'm not fixated on a brand though, i am open for new brands and am strongly against fanboyism, not only when it comes to headphones but also smartphones, cars and other products so wtf are you on about?
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>>52416591
>You can though because the E10K won't drive 600s properly.
Stop posting. E10K is completely fine for HD 600. HD 600's voltage sensitivity is below average but E10K has plenty enough for them. HD 600's power draw is rather small because of the high impedance. E10K has limited output power but once again enough for the HD 600. To compare, the aforementioned K702 has higher power draw and a tad bit lower sensitivity than the HD 600 but it too should be fine with the E10K.

>You would know this if you've ever listened to them
Fuck off to Head-Fi with your garbage subjective impressions with no basis to real world drive requirements of headphones.
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>>52416606
indeed. your point? I never shilled for sennheiser on any board. i am just more neutral now because i am happy about my new headphones ^.^. so if you like sennheiser then so be it.

ALSO CHECK OUT MY NEW HEADPHONES
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>>52416663
Jesus christ you're an idiot. Just sell this poor sap headphones his usb-powered amp won't be able to drive so he can come back in a week asking why his 600s sound lifeless.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb.
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>>52416671
>50
fucked up
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>>52416663
>a tad bit lower sensitivity
You said everything right until this point.
K702 : 105 dB/V
HD600: 102 dB/V
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>>52416673
bet you have a tube amp
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>>52416683
stay sour faggot
THEIR NIGGABASS IS GREAT
HUNNID BAND HUNNID BAND DROPPED ON THE HEAD OF ANY NIG WHO WANT IT MAN
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>>52416694
I am listening to my HD600s with an O2/ODAC combo right now. I have conversely listened to them with an E10K and also onboard audio. They sound like shit with the latter two, narrow, tinny and lifeless.

But you're the expert here, keep up the great recommendations to people who don't know any better when they can get better sound quality for less considering their equipment. ;^)
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>>52416673
>usb-powered amp
USB can deliver way more power than what is required for driving almost any headphone. This has nothing to do how the amplifier draws its power anyway.
>so he can come back in a week asking why his 600s sound lifeless.
What? And since you seem to be so certain that E10K can't power HD 600s, you must be able to explain why that is. Output power and voltage are sufficient, output impedance is very low and that's mostly a non-issue with 300 Ohm nominal headphones anyway. There will not be shifts in the frequency response due to the low output impedance, distortion will not be audible because of the relatively low power draw, voltage is high enough for a loud listening volume... What else is there? What is lifeless?

>>52416692
Check measurements, not manufacturer specs which don't even state the conditions of those.
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>>52416763
> Check measurements, not manufacturer specs which don't even state the conditions of those.
Measurements have nothing to do with a headphone sensistivity, unless you're talking of a different kind of sensitivity. Also both the K702 sens and the HD600 sens which are declared by the manufacturers are right.
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There they are. I'm >>52414294
Holy fuck this is so much better.
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>>52416840
why did you make this awful image?

no one gives a shit about your 70$ gaming headset
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>>52416812
>Measurements have nothing to do with a headphone sensistivity
...
IF and Personalaudio.ru measure the sensitivity of the headphones.

Problem with the manufacturer specs is once again the lack of conditions stated. Averaged measurement from 20Hz-20kHz of a sample at a certain frequency?
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>>52416840
enjoy the anon
remember amazon when you decide to upgrade
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>>52402964
Anyone?
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http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/ObravoHAMT1.pdf

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/obravo-hamt-1-headphones/?page=3

>The HAMT-1 headphones by oBravo deliver a uniquely audiophile-friendly sound, one that helps bridge the gap between the traditional audio world (that doesn’t ‘do’ headphones) and today’s buyers (who don’t ‘do’ loudspeakers).
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Greetings, /hpg/. I'm from /wt/ and I need advice on audio shit. I'm building a cheapo timegrapher, and I'd like to know if there's anything wrong with this setup:
>Ebay piezo mic with 6.35mm mono jack (pic is what I'm getting)
>6.35mm to 3.5mm mono adapter
>mono jack into PC (pink or blue?), or smartphone plug

Would these work or do I need some amplifier or some something? I'm a watch guy and not an audio guy so I don't know shit about these things, but a real timegrapher machine is kinda expensive.
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>tfw fidelios
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>>52417192
>tfw
nigger
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>>52417333
Pussy nigga back it up
Chi-raq shoot like me in court
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>>52412349

DT770 / M50X
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>>52417119
Anyone? I'm not seeing any other audiophile general for this question.
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Got myself a pair of Xiaomi Piston 2.0 at the mall today. How can I tell if whatever I got is fake or not?
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>>52412202

HP9500
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>>52417333

>doesnt like bass

>sennshillsuser
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>>52417119
Nah, there nothing wrong about this…
Basically one channel(momo) being converted 2x
>>52417448
/hpg/ is more like anti-placebo. And brands shills™
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>>52417562
So if I plug the mono connector into the PC it'll just receive the same mono signal on both left and right channels?
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>>52417464
Fakes sound better
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>>52417119
>I'm from /wt/
???
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thoughts?
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>>52417668
Watch thread. I'm building a diy timegrapher, a device that measures the accuracy and condition of a watch by listening to the ticking.
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>>52417464
What kind of store in your mall has a reputation of stocking fakes? wtf.
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>>52417711
10/10 I would buy
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>>52417711
what do you call em?

Coconut snap?
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>>52417119
Should work perfectly fine.
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>>52417757
I'm currently in Asia. Fakes are rampant here.
I'm guessing I'm safe though, judging from your reaction.
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>>52414089
>It kind of puzzles me how little studies there are being done of these and how small they are.
Audio distortion has been a topic for research for many decades. The Audio Engineering Society usually publishes someone's research paper on the subject a couple times a year. There has been some difficulty in relating how we can measure distortion and how we hear it, which has been the main difficultly in understand distortion.

>Are the effects of already well known or is there not enough interest or money to fund studies of it?
It's definitely not cheap to perform a study with a large sample size. Securing trained listeners makes this more difficult.
It's also generally understood that good quality modern drivers don't have much of a problem with distortion.

A single tone covers up the ear's ability to hear other tones in a similar frequency range, the distortions. This is skewed to frequencies above the tone, so for those very high frequencies, or lower frequency behavior, they are still clearly heard.
In most tests, complex music with many sounds and tones usually makes distortions more difficult to hear. Simpler music pieces, an instrument solo for example, tend to make distortions easier to hear.
There is no reason to assume you can hear anything below the minimum threshold of hearing. This also places a limit on how much distortion can be heard, besides the masking tone.

How this comes together and limits of detectable distortion is more ambiguous, especially with loudness effects.

>Or maybe it's just the plethora of misleading and wrongful information from the consumer audio industry and online communities giving me this idea.
If the researchers and engineers are having a hard enough time with this, how could the layperson possibly know?
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What /hpg/ think of the difference with DT770/880/990? What are the difference, which one should i get for liking neutrality?
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>>52414154
schiit*
>>
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/creative-sound-blaster-x7-amp-dac-combo?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open&

this thing is shit...right?
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>>52416840
of course its better. and of course, those are still complete shit compared to real headphones
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>>52417964
dt770 is pretty bass heavy
7506 or m40x would be better

haven't heard a lot about dt880
dt990 are open, which is a pretty big difference
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>>52417592
>So if I plug the mono connector into the PC it'll just receive the same mono signal on both left and right channels?
Mono doesn't work like stereo, you know.
Considering the microphone is just one channel. It should work normally
>>52417711
>mixing headphones in your imagination
>>52417749
Oh, that neat. Usually genuine retailers are always checking out that "luxurious clicking timing" for you guys are craving for. I blame the jewelry merchant for this
>>52417964
770 closed/880 semi-open/990 open
For neutrality maybe the 880 on the beyer side.
>inb4 hd600 is still the better option
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>>52417964
dt880 are the ones youre looking for. both the 770 and 990 are v shaped. also, their "semi-open" is pretty much just open

>>52418021
yeah, it's schiit
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>>52417749
or you could join us in the post 1971 era and get a digital watch
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>>52418204
Make me.
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>>52418299
why dont you try to get tube amps working with a mechanical watch? that way we could bring the threads together, where everyone would surely be very happy, plus you get get extra high ticking resolution and detail through a quality tube amp. what could go wrong
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>>52418336
>vacuum tubes
And you guys are shitting on mechanical watches? We've been using transistors since 1960.
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>>52418057
>>52418113
>>52418115

Thanks anon
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>>52418336
>what could go wrong
That's just going to colorize the watches with tubes. Still better to go solid state with the watches senpai. ^:*)
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>>52418057
>>52418113
>>52418115

DT880 or DT880 Pro? Difference?
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>>52418403
oh you took that seriously? concerning
that said, these threads definitely have their own version of you running around.

>>52418432
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT! THERES NO HARM IN COLORING THE TICK A BIT IF ITS GOING TO BE BETTER
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>>52418432
>^:*)
RARE
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>>52418403
>bulova accutron
how do these work
did some googling but i dont understand ._.
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>>52418449
nothing sound quality wise. the cable is coiled and the clamp is tighter on the pro version. as far as impedance goes, you want to try and go with the 250ohm, but it might not get loud enough for some content without an amp
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>>52418449
No difference at all. If you're concerned about the design like the grill, I'll considered the 880 Pro.
>>52418476
^•)
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>>52416857
rude

>>52417927
Well, I doubt anyone is making fakes of a very affordable Xiaomi Chinese product whose margins have already been cut to the limit, regardless of its reputation.
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Are Audeze headphones used for the breaking of spines?
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>>52418810
>1/2 the weight of a Koss ESP 6
You know nothing of heavy headphones, Jon Snow.
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>>52418572
I only really asked because I keep hearing warnings about fake Pistons when lurking these threads. I guess those only apply to the ones bought online.
Thanks a lot!
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>>52418553
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulova#Accutron
Magic, basically. The tuning fork oscillates and the jeweled, thinner than hair pawl fingers attached to it drive the index wheel, one teeth at a time, 360 times a second (360Hz). The gear teeth are basically microscopic and they can never ever be touched or your skin will just sand them down immediately.

When Bulova tried to make a limited run of the watch in the late 2000's they almost failed, the technology was just to sophisticated, even though Accutrons were originally made in the 60's. The only way the Soviets were able to make a similar tuning fork watch is by reverse-engineering Khrushchevs gift Accutron (Slava Transistor).
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>>52412801
No. That's your opinion, HD598 is clearer than most Beyer shit anyways. Clarity is mostly due to the 2-5kHz area.

>>52413505
No wonder HD598 sounds veiled, that receiver probably has a shitty high impedance value on its headphone output.

>>52415960
HD600 if you really want neutral.
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>>52417964
DT880 gets the closest to neutral from that lot.
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>>Budget - 300€
>>Location - Finland
>>Source - PC. Asus STRIX RAID DLX
>>Preferred type of headphone - Over ear
>> Open or Closed - closed or semi-open
>>Comfort level - Above Average, for 4-6 hour continued usage
>>Preferred tonal balance - neutral
>>Preferred music - Electronic/Pop/Trance/Ambient/Rock
>>Past headphones - Sony MDR-XB300

I want to test PC sound card before even thinking about getting amp unless it´s necessary.
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>>52418554

I have an Fiio E10k
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>>52419089
thats fine then
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>>52419083
does amazon deliver to finland yet? Because I've heard a lot of complaints from my finnish bud about that

if not, give some local stores
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>>52418553
The Wikipedia page is pretty clear about it.

>Bulova’s "Accutron" watches, first sold in October 1960, use a 360 hertz tuning fork instead of a balance wheel as the timekeeping element.
>The tuning fork was powered by a one-transistor electronic oscillator circuit, so the Accutron qualifies as the first "electronic watch". Instead of the ticking sound made by mechanical watches, the Accutron had a faint, high pitch hum which came from the vibrating tuning fork.

A little bit of the physics behind watches and headphones, and an excuse to explain how damping works.
TL;DR warning
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping

Force can be expressed as the acceleration of a mass (Newton's laws of motion). Conversely, force can be expressed by the stiffness multiplied by the displacement of the object (Hooke's law) .
As a formula:
>Force = mass*acceleration + stiffness*displacement

An ideal resonator would thus ring forever at a very specific frequency unless the force was transferred out of the system. and the resonator experiences no internal friction.
This is quite unrealistic, so we add in friction. The force of friction is proportionate to the velocity, so a formula would be written like

>Force = mass*acceleration + friction*velocity + stiffness*displacement
>F = ma + cv + kx

The friction from velocity gives the damping of a system in a direct relation. You don't need to solve the equation, it's there to show how they relate.
In engineering, with a little mathematical rearrangement we have:

>0 = a + 2*ζ*ω + x*ω^2

Omega is the frequency of the resonator, 2*ζ is the total damping factor of system.
The inverse of 2ζ gives us the important part we are looking for: Q factor.
As a formula:

>1/2ζ = Q

Those of you who have used a parametric EQ (ex. Equalizer APO) have probably heard of Q factor in setting up your EQ. This is not a coincidence, this is referring to the (lack of) damping in a resonator.
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>>52419135
It depends on multiple things. So far no problems for me after few times that I have bought from Amazon.
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>>52419083
>Asus STRIX RAID DLX
that not even audio related
>I want to test PC sound card before even thinking about getting amp unless it´s necessary.
Don't bother buying those gimmicks. A portable dac/amp would do better; E10k, schiit fulla.
The DT880 would suit your preferred music.
>>52419228
>mfw
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>>52419311
>that not even audio related
apparently it's a 200€ soundcard
don't ask me
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>>52419340
Oops, had a last minute search on it.
My opinions discarded, but why they named it like that?
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>>52419083
>>Preferred tonal balance - neutral
Are you saying you want studio monitors?

Either way if you live near Helsinki I'd suggest you to go and audition some headphones in the various HiFi stores around the city. They have some pretty good experts to recommend you stuff also.
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>>52419311
Got it free due work and so currently using it right now, but I also own ASUS Xonar Essence STX II that is not currently use, but that can be fixed.
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Just got my new LCD 2:s, good upgrade from my old cracked rev 1:s. Seems easier to drive as well, needed to turn the dial back a bit on the amp!
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>>52419363
it's a gamer targetted card

be glad RGB or CHROMA isn't in the title
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>>52419382
I have looked long time ath-m70x headphones, because ath-m50x sounds way too bassy. Problem with m70x is that they might be too neutral for general home listening. Another anon recommended DT880s so I think I will get one of those. Thanks for your help and time.
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>>52419363
I think I will try those DT880s. Atleast they should be decent upgrade to these old headphones that I have. Thanks for your time and help.
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>>52418935
> Clarity is mostly due to the 2-5kHz area.
Not him, but this is exactly the reason why K702 and DT880 sound clear, while your headphones sound veiled to anyone except you.
>No wonder HD598 sounds veiled, that receiver probably has a shitty high impedance value on its headphone output.
Are you trying to justify the horrible sound quality of the HD598 by blaming the amp? This is really cute.

I think that they'll appreciate your work at Hannover, Franz. Good job!
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>>52419228
>>52418553
MORE TL;DR

How does damping, or lack of it, relate to a watch?

Q refers to the tightness of the resonator over frequencies. A watch needs a very precise and stable reference frequency to keep time, a very pure frequency tone. It won't work to have your resonator output other frequencies besides the precise one you want to reference. Damping is undesirable in a watch.

Tuning forks are designed to create these pure tones acoustically, and usually have a Q factor in the thousands.
Quartz piezoelectric oscillators jack up the Q factor into the millions.
Atomic clocks have obscenely high Q, with center frequency stabilized in other ways, and their use as a time reference follows from that.


Now for headphones:
Headphones are a mechanical and electrical system, and experience damping from mechanical friction and the voltage generated that opposes movement in a magnetic field.
The effect that the damping, electrical or otherwise, has is focused on the bass, because the driver itself has the resonant frequency around there.

Raw driver sellers tell you the Q factor of their units so that you can design a system accordingly. These are stated in the Thiele-Small parameters in the spec sheet, you plug these into a calculator and build it.
Headphone makers aren't going to tell you the Q of their headphone, just like they won't give you a frequency response chart. The Q of a headphone is not constant, the mechanical damping is affected just by the cup sealed to your head.

In most headphones, unlike loudspeaker drivers, mechanical damping tends to do the majority of the damping. In some cases, planar magnetic drivers especially, the electrical damping is barely noticeable since there is so much mechanical damping in the driver.

If you actually want to sit here calculating the Q factors of a headphone, you can look at this for a guide:
>Determination of the Thiele-Small Parameters Using Two-Channel FFT Analysis
>http://www.bksv.com/doc/bo0202.pdf
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>Budget - $100 - $200

>Location - Canada

>Source - PC/Phone

>Preferred type of headphone - over ear

>Open or closed - Closed

>Comfort level - Good since I'm gonna wear them a lot

>Preferred tonal balance - Good bass, Clear(accurate) sound

>Preferred music - old hip hop, old rock, blues and jazz.

>Past headphones - bunch of shit gaming headset.

Thanks for the help =^)
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>>52419870
> inb4 HD600
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>>52419870
Can be around the ear too!
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>>52419623
>K702 and DT880 sound clear
Sure, someone with hearing loss would say those two sound "clear".
To everyone else they sound cold and analytical.
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>>52419888
>HD600
They are 450$ aint happening lol
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>>52419888
Not with that budget.
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>>52419905
Don't worry dude, expect someone coming up and recommending them to you no matter your badget

>>52419903
> implying cold and analytical is worse than veiled
> using such buzzwords
>>
post what you listenin and with wich headphones

https://youtu.be/kWHhkj83FE4?t=130

ATnignogbass M50x
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>>52419888
>$100-200
>closed
>HD600

That doesn't even make sense. Are you actually this paranoid that people sometimes recommend Sennheisers over your favorite headphone?

>>52419870
Not many good options with those requirements. XPT100 maybe. DT770 is a very good option for bass but is more of a V-shaped sound than technically "accurate." I think K553s are US-only, but you could try to find those although they have less bass than the other two.
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>>52420009
Genesis - the Knife (Flac from Japanese SHM CD)
AKG K702
I'm speechless....
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>>52419623
I'd suggest you educate yourself on frequency response and how our ears shape incoming sound.

Fact is, the HD598 is more neutral than the K702 and DT880 and is more accurate in the most sensitive regions of the ear .

It's also a well known fact that the HD598 has a large impedance swing in the mid-bass, but you probably didn't know this.

>>52419870
MDR-V6 or MDR-7506.
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>>52420022
Alright thanks for the help, I apreciate it. googling it right now!
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>>52419903
>To everyone else they sound cold and analytical.
Not really, DT880 is noticeably veiled to my ear whereas something like HD600, MDR-V6 and ER-4S is what I'd consider clear sounding.
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>>52420009
thanks faggot, my sennheisers just snapped
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M40x, dt770, K550 if you can negotiate from a local London Drugs to put it at 250-280.
>tfw how the Canadian loonie has become worse than the peso rising
>>52420009
>listening to music
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ToyNtNJAZ9k
MSR7
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>>52420058
>I'd suggest you educate yourself on frequency response and how our ears shape incoming sound.
>Fact is, the HD598 is more neutral than the K702 and DT880 and is more accurate in the most sensitive regions of the ear .
This is the deepest and most accurate explanation of veiled sound I ever read. Thank you for your enlightening contribution, I think that I'll probably buy HD598.
May God bless Sennheiser for caring about our sensitive ears!
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>>52420009
https://a.uguu.se/pbcvqs_DepthOfTheShallows.ogg

Spoonbill - Depth of the Shallows

HD 800
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>>52420124
>>52419870
fug. I need some sleep
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>>52420130
I'd say God bless them for making non-shit headphones that are actually neutral.
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>>52420130

>bless Sennheiser for caring about our sensitive ears!

>how about quality sennshill
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>>52420176

New thread.
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>>52420009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR1UkTkurZU
HD600
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>>52418113
>880 semi-open/990 open
Semi-open is literally a buzzword. They leak sound just as much as the DT990.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVEVRTUAy0M

Denon AH-D5000
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>>52420226
Agreed, they just modified the coils in there.
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>>52420009
kpop
dt880 250Ω
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>>52420290
>kpoop
sasuga beyer owners
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>>52420302
>sasuga
>akg weeaboo
gross.
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>>52420009

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SYYSRZy2wE

Beats Studio
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>>52420314
desu, by your logic, youd be one too

>>52420302
ive already replaced them with 400i technically, but they are on rma. might as well say sasuga hifiman owners too

not that what youre saying makes sense at all, but hey i like video games n shit
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>>52419311
>mfw
What is your face now? I wasn't even done, there is a bunch of other things I could say about the topic.
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>>52419746
>>52419228
what do you do for a living?
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>>52420419
Messiah of /hpg/
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Are there any headphones or IEMs that would have both ANC and bluetooth?
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>>52420419
>what do you do for a living?
Not audio engineering. Why?
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>>52420398
What I learned from home schooling here with you seems to be just is the same is that teacher from my hardware engineering classes (bcit). I love every word about it, also thanks for the PDF guide.
>What is your face now?
Still a spicy meatball
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>>52420009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTct6-mQJQw

Hifiman HE-560
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>>52419228
>0 = a + 2*ζ*ω + x*ω^2
Errata time. Should be:

>0 = a + 2*ζ*ω*v + x*ω^2

"v" for velocity, "a" for acceleration, "x" is displacement. Can just be expressed in a more generic differential equation form of a damped resonator.

These relations are much the same for an electrical resonator (hardware equalizer), which allows for electrical analysis methods to work on mechanical motors and headphone drivers.
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>>52420499
I'm sure you can get into that field.
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>>52419083
AKG K550 or K553 pro if you can get your hands on it
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What is a good way too tell people that beats are shit.

So I'm in on of my classes and this group of chads next to me are looking at the wireless gold one and I decided to tell them about their real quality. They where like saying that I was wrong and somewhere during me replying back I sort of locked up and stopped talking.

So what would you say to them so they would know that beats are not that great of cans?
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>>52421285
Time to rethink beats lad

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/time-rethink-beats-solo2-excellent
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