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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
New 2016 ThinkPads announced:
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
Okay for you guys that have stickers on your thinkpads... Post ''em!
I for one covered imperfections with stickers. I'm going to take my thinkpad to my graphic design class, what do you think?
Show your guts as well. Have you replaced your thermal compound this week?
>New 2016 ThinkPads announced
Fuck me, I think I jumped the gun on the T450s I bought back in November. That T460s looks badass. And they finally put an HDMI port on it. Meanwhile I'm stuck in the past with this ancient fucking VGA.
>Meanwhile I'm stuck in the past with this ancient fucking VGA.
Senpai, I was contemplating buying the 2015 just because it has VGA. I'm not going to, though. I'll be getting the new series. The need for a VGA comes up too often for me for it not to be a relevant parameter though. But, I need a new laptop within the next couple of weeks, and I doubt the 2015 models will drop in price enough any time soon, for it to be warranted to not buy the new model.
But yeah, you should've waited. Maybe sell of your T450s now, while you can still get decent money for it, and get the new series.
Nope. In fact, I'm going to add this one right now. With super glue.
starting LaunchCode's CS50X course tomorrow so I bought a new chinaman 9cell off amazon for my t420.
9 cell, "18 month warranty", $33 shipped with Prime. the description claims they use Samsung cells, but it had no reviews. sounded better than the ones with reviews so here we are.
just fully charged it and testing life now. I have a quad core and two hard drives, hopefully it can power me for at least four hours. my genuine Lenovo battery only lasts about 2.5 at best.
any tips for saving battery life? I'll let you guys know how this one works out.
Disable turboboost. It is disabled in the "fan behaviour" option in the power manager by choosing the balanced settings. Aaaaand set a lower CPU frequency, disable Wifi and lower the brightness.
I just acquired a x201 and installed a fresh Arch linux.
How to enable the scrolling using the middle button + the clit? It doesn't work by default and I have to grab the scroll bar like a cavernman.
What kind of thinkpad should I get if I just wanna torrent and watch anime on it? I'm not looking for something good but something cheap that would work for web browsing torrenting and watching anime
anything with at least a dual core and 4gb ram. just buy the most thinkpad you can afford. x series if you want better portability, t series if you want a bigger screen and the ability to swap cpus.
t series does not have soldered chips. see
i swapped my dual core i5 for a quad core i7.
x series are soldered so if you do buy one, get at least a midrange i5 because you won't be upgrading it.
75 minutes in on chinkforce one. 15% drained. looks like at these settings and this work load i can pull 8 hours of battery off this 9 cell.
hopefully it doesn't degrade like a motherfucker once it's cycled a bit, because i'm really fucking satisfied right now
I have a girlfriend and a T410, today my fucking touch samsung phone managed to touch itself into calling my father in law and they heard me talking about meeting other girls.
Fucking touchscreens ruin everything. Fuck fiancees, I just want sluts and trackpoints.
just wondering if anyone has opinions on trackpoint replacement caps, oem vs. different styles...
All LV and ULV processors have been soldered for the past 10 years or so
It's a never ending shit flinging match. As per the pic, you can buy a set of the 3 ThinkPad types and have fun with them
I got a pack of the three since my X220 needed a replacement and I wanted to try the other styles instead of buying 10 soft domes that I'd never use up.
Soft dome is the one everybody's acquainted with, and it works well enough to be the standard. I didn't think I'd like the soft rim from the appearance but I actually love it now that I've tried it. It feels much more accurate and responsive than soft dome ever has for me and there's absolutely no way for my finger to slip off of it. I didn't really like classic dome, it just felt it had all the same issues I have with soft dome only compounded by having an even smaller and steeper-edged surface area and rougher texture. Nice that the option is there for people who are used to it, though.
Find your service manual and see if you can replace it or if you have to buy a new display. Then Google the part number, find one, order it, and replace it according to manual. Search engines aren't rocket science.
Man, I want an X230 but I'm too poor. All my money is going to my classes and all I got to work with is an old chromebook falling apart for when im on the go. Wish I could buy one off ebay with a payment plan of like $20 a month or something.
I ordered that 10 pack of soft domes with my thinkpad. I'll have to order one of those three packs if I don't like them. I've used them all over the years, but it's been so briefly that I can't remember which is best.
I am using one of those right now, same exact specs. Have been using it every day since I bought it in 2010. Can't game on it, but it soldiers through everything else. Buy a new battery for it if you do end up going with it.
for performance, probably won't last you long.
I honestly have no idea how to make it display from the VGA due to mine missing a screen.
Hope you like it.
I hate you
four doors, more whores!
Meh, woman are boring, its weird interacting with them sometimes.
At this rate I think I'd meet some girl who collects dolls or shoes, some shit and we'd get along.
With some rocking 1440x900 display.
It does have those lil' cloudy things though.
And some unpleasant scratches.
Pic related is the biggest one and actually the only big one. I'll try to replace the palmrest and keyboard when I get some money. Then maybe the top cover and screen. The top cover has one of the supports that distance the screen from the keyboard when closed broken. It doesn't seem it could press against the keyboard, but it does have a little backlash when closed (like half a milimeter in one corner).
Here's my ThinkPad. It's a T400. It sits in top of my desktop and acts as a WiFi antenna for it.
Is it better to use an AFFS screen or get a 1440x900 screen for my X200?
From what I see on the internets I got a whole bunch of cool mods I can do to my X200 from flashing libreboot to replacing its mobo with a X201's
Just bought a T420s for my Windows needs, ignoring my usual autismo over-research and just taking /g/'s word.
Normally I'd shake my fist and say you'd better be right but it was so cheap I don't even care. I was going to buy an OEM Windows 7 (need to match client setup) and put it in a VM but getting the computer along with it only cost $25 more.
it's not even released yet, so no one has had a production sample, but i want notebookcheck to get one so they can rip it apart.
not bad, i just paid $160 for a T420, with the same RAM and HDD, but i don't know the screen.
I never had the need of a laptop until now, and I'm pretty damn sure I'm not going to spend a grand just to do simple work stuff.
So, I need the cheapest thinkpad that can give me a smooth experience on:
- Web browsing
- MS Office
- PDF reading
- Checking mail
And that's pretty much everything I'm going to use it for. Suggestions?
They look a bit more expensive where I live.
Around 130€, but I found one for 110€ with a fucked up USB port and 160GB HDD and another one for 125€ on good condition but 80GB HDD, and the seller offers to raise the RAM to 4GB for £20 more but I don't think is worth it.
I considered the T420 but I'm not going to buy an SSD, that would double the price and I'm going to use this only at work and not every day.
>order a new 33++ 9cells battery for my T400
>expecting at least 4 hours of autonomy
>get 1h30 on lower mode
I just checked with Power Manager, already 600 cycles.
>Can't you play Dwarf Fortress on anything?
Up to a certain population, sure, but it's a demanding game. It's single-threaded and does shitloads of pathfinding calculations and materials lookups every second, which means the main factors in its performance are raw speed and cache size.
Dwarf fortress is an infinite CPU game. It'll eat as many cycles as you have.
You could run it on something really bad but you'll only get like 10fps with like 2 dwarves.
And world gen, world events, things like that will take fucking forever to calculate.
Oh, I forgot to ask:
what could cause the effect seen on the photo? Can I repair that?
Also, what should I install to check my battery? I don't see any info on battery cycles in Kubuntu. Will tp_smapi help me?
>there are still cucks that roam /g/ that use 1366x768
Why haven't you offed yourselves yet?
I just disassembeled my broken old x121e to salvage what I could. Well, it works fine actually, it's just that the hinges broke. I have no use for a laptop that's literally falling apart. The threading for the screws that broke was garbage tier plastic painted to look metal.
Never buy the cheap Lenovo stuff. I mean god damn.
Time to get an X260!
Anyone know why the new X1 Yoga has a higher MSRP than the P40 Yoga, despite the fact that the P40 is equipped with quadro graphics? Like am I really sacrificing that much for a smaller footprint? Pretty sure they're both 6th gen intel, though the lower end X1 only has an i5.
Better thermals, higher resolution, Ultrabay, socketed CPU, more ports, dedicated GPU option, better keyboard feel. If you don't care about size or weight there's not much of a reason to go for the more portable device.
Yeah, the panel quality isn't great even if you got the 900p one. You need to get a 15" Thinkpad if you want a good screen, smaller models are all compromises.
Anyone running Windows with Teracrypt/Veracrypt or similar full system encryption?
I've an i5 T430s that has the hardware AES chip and was wondering if I would be taking a hit in CPU performance - mostly light gaming that is pretty CPU taxing to begin with
Does anyone have any more info on the custom bios for the T420 & Ivy bridge I7s?
google translate fucking fails hard when trying to translate forum posts. But from what I gather... it all works except usb and some problems with the HD4000.... Can anyone fill in the blanks?
B-but display mods for X220 haven't been made feasible yet that only a few chinese technowizards have done it, and even then it's flawed because it uses the displayport for output, rendering it unusable with external monitors
At least 1366x768 is less eye cancer when screen size is smaller
TLP and downclock GPU on battery. Even if turbo is off, the GPU driver is not aware of that and when it wants to raise its operating frequency it will put the CPU into turbo mode, wasting power(GPU and CPU use the same clock reference)max_non_turbo=$(< /sys/class/drm/card0/gt_RP1_freq_mhz)
echo $max_non_turbo | sudo tee /sys/class/drm/card0/gt_max_freq_mhz
got my two X200's today.
one is pretty good but the screen seems to be permanently redshift'd/flux'd and it doesn't have a hard drive.
the other's screen is good, but it's spitting out a fan error message at boot.
it's fine though, i'll harvest one for the other, and libreboot it when the jumpers and clip come.
A volume rocker, yeah. I don't mind it considering you can probably mute the laptop before you even open it. Also makes sense given that media keys won't work if you have it in tablet mode.
It's probably a fuse that won't be too hard to replace. I doubt the actual light died.
On a not really related note: give me tips for maximizing battery life while runnign linux on a T420. I already turned off the discrete graphics card in the BIOS and I just found the setting in XFCE power manager that tells the machine to suspend when the lid closes rather than just lock the screen.
With dedicated graphics, yes. Without, no. We've gone over this like five times already. Since you apparently can't into ebay, I've done all the hard work for you. Here's what you want:
Mind, that's not a particularly good price. If you're patient and check repeatedly, you should be able to score those specs for under $200 like I did. But if you can't be bothered, there it is.
Hi /tpg/. I'm going to university in a few months and am leaning towards buying a thinkpad. The x220 sounds perfect, but I am afraid of it becoming outdated. Would an x220 last another 4 years? Money is not an issue and I'm open to buying a new thinkpad if I have to.
The CPU is plenty strong, on par with Broadwell. What you might not be happy with is the integrated GPU if you play any games at all. HD 3000 is really anemic, not just insufficient for playing the latest AAA console ports but awful for just about anything. It struggles with even the more barebones Source games. If you have the budget for it, get an X230 instead. You can swap the X220 keyboard in if you want it and you'll get much more mileage out of the iGPU.
Just search T420 1600x900 nvidia gpu and search from there
My bad, doesn't change the fact it's not feasible until the chinks figure out something more efficient and cost effective
Got an x220 on ebay with a docking station and spare touchpad panel.
i5, 8gb, 120gbssd, and ips.
$200+$20 shipping. Did I do good?
It's in decent shape and feels really good to type on.
Got it to use at work while sitting at my desk.