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>Start using Ganoo 5 years ago
>Use Linux Mint, overheats constantly
>Switch to Ubuntu, overheats constantly
>Move to Debian Gnome, overheats occasionally
>Try Fedora
>Literally never goes over 50 degrees on my x220
>Running Gnome 3
>Very fast and stable
>Get all the new packages
>More secure than any other distro
>Actually maintained and supported by a REAL company and not 14 year old autists

Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
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Love the shit out of Fedora 23, I use it on my work laptops to program point to point systems. Love the battery life.
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the packages
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Give me stable distro with a non shit DE (no tiling manager), and that's fully AUR compatible, and I'll be happy.

Until then, hackintosh for me
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I'm about to switch to fedora. What should I expect? Using a chinkpad.
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>>52404156
Because I prefer not to do beta-testing on the software I use. So I use Debian© Stable®.
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>>52404156
>numix circle
lol
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>>52404283
The smoothest GNU experience of your life
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>>52404156
Maybe the issue was your hardware you faggot
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>>52404156
Because I am intelligent enough to configure and use Arch, the distro Fedora wants to be.
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>>52404156
Because their KDE spin is a joke
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>>52404156

>be me
>start using lunix as the only OS a year ago
>start with ubantoo LTS, nothing overheats ,but frikin gimp is older than on Debian Jessie
>use debian jessie - nothing overheats but novidya drivers are 340.something
>switch to fedora , novidia drivers are like teh newest but my gpu is overheating
>tfw they dont work after a kernel update and i have to reinstall erry time even though i have dkms
>install arch somwhere in the process , it wasnt overheating and was cool but some packages lacked porish language support
>go back to ubahntoo (willy) and notice that dash doesnt autamatically refresh installed/uninstalled software
>install ubahnto LTS and use the stupid PPAs

when will it end
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>>52404371
What's wrong with it?

>>52404396
Nah, the fan problem has been around with Ubuntu since 12.04.

>>52404399
You'll have lots of fun when pacman fucks up your config files friendo :^)

>>52404435
>Using KDE
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>>52404548
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>52404283
Not much, and I mean that in a good way. It installs, runs, and does what it's supposed to without a fuss. DNF is much nicer to work with than apt, and customization is done though your windows manager or DE.

Once you get it installed, visit rpmfusion.org and get their repos up and running. After that, tweak the font rendering if it bugs you. It's not bad, but Debian does it better. Here's my .Xresources file for reference:

Xft.antialias: 1
Xft.dpi: 96
Xft.hinting: 0
Xft.hintstyle: hintnone
Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault
Xft.rgba: rgb


And your done. Search for packages using "dnf search XXXX".
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>>52404591
dont forget to put this to /etc/fonts/local.conf
<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<fontconfig>
<match target="font">
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
<bool>false</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="embeddedbitmap" mode="assign">
<bool>false</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
<const>hintslight</const>
</edit>
<edit name="lcdfilter" mode="assign">
<const>lcdlight</const>
</edit>
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
<const>rgb</const>
</edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
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Software shouldn't cause your laptop to overheat except in extreme circumstances (running intense benchmarks, etc).

OP, something is fucked with your laptop's cooling. I highly suggest making sure that the heatsink vents are unclogged and that the thermal paste on the heatsink is adequate, applied well, and not dried up.

A while back I bought a circa 2008 Dell business laptop and the thing would overheat doing nothing. When I opened it up, I found out why: the vent was clogged with fuzz like you'd get out of your dryer's lint filter and it didn't even have real paste between the CPU and heatsink, just a shitty thermal pad. I cleaned out the fuzz, cleaned off the heatsink, CPU, and GPU, and applied some MX3. After putting it back together I saw a 30-40C temperature drop on average.

TLDR clean out your laptops and repaste them so they don't cook themselves
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>>52404591
Installing infinality or freetype-ubuntu will improve font rendering WAY more than tweaking the settings on stock freetype.
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>>52404156
hi
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>>52404548
> I prefer KDE to Gnome 3's shitty desktop paradigm where functionality and combustibility just gets stripped away
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been using fedora for years, it's about the only distro I've tried that I like OOTB

gnome/gtk sucks, which sucks because fedora only tends to do gnome well, but a lot of distros focus on only gnome

the only thing making me want to move away from fedora, or at least use it in addition to fedora on other boxes, is that there's almost zero long term support for fedora - you basically get around 13 months of support or until a second major release comes around, centos isn't a valid alternative unless you don't mind stuff being extremely out of date

>>52404283

use rpmfusion for packages not included in fedora's repo, expect a lot of stuff to be broken as fedora rarely touch packages so if it's broken upstream it'll be broken in fedora (but the opposite is true, you don't get what happens in a lot of other distros where the distro specific build is broken and upstream is fine)

>>52404435

agreed, but it's primarily because fedora mostly don't touch packages or configs so if it's shit it's because kde is shit

I've wanted to try out opensuse for a while to get a proper kde experience, but effort
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>>52404700
me in the pic
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>>52404264
Arch with xfce. Or manjaro.
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>>52404684
I do love me some infinality, but I have had problems with it breaking other things. For instance the last time I tried it DNF wouldn't allow infinality and steam to coexist. >inb4 gayems

But yes, you're absolutely right otherwise.
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>>52404684
doesnt freetype-freeworld + a /etc/fonts/local.conf config just werk? Only firefox has ugly fonts then and thats because it needs recompiling
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>>52404742
Interesting, I haven't had trouble with infinality breaking things. Have you tried freetype-ubuntu? It looks almost identical to infinality and presumably isn't breaking things, since it's been shipping with ubuntu releases for several years now.
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>>52404156
I kind of like Gnome, but what's the point of that bar at the top? What a waste of space, if it at least could hold tray icons (other than the defaults) but can't even do that, is there any fix to this other than hiding it?

I'd rather Unity, but Compiz randomly crashes at least once a day.
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>gnome 3

I use fedora kde
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>>52404156
>14 year old autists
that sounds like something a BULLY would say
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>>52404897
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>>52404156
>Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?

Can't stand Red Hat package management. Mint does everything I want and performs flawlessly on my hardware.

I'm using MATE Edition, because I loved Gnome 2 and wasn't impressed with Gnome 3.
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>>52404156
>Fedora with GNOME 3
Opinion discarded
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>>52404156
>start using Linux years ago
>computer overheats
>begin using distros that require me to manually do everything so the computer doesn't have to
>can no longer run any modern software anyway
>computer no longer overheats

Great blog OP, who'da thunk... Why don't you dust your fucking computer you slob, you should be able to push your hardware to 100% capacity without overheating.
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\ /
/ \ u b u n t u
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>>52404264
are you fucking retarded? You can install any DE you want on to Arch. You could even install Unity if you wanted to seeing as you like getting fucked regularly
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>>52404651
I already did that anon, that was the first thing I did when I got my new laptop, along with replacing the screen.

>>52404965
Settle down guy.
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>>52404156
Because I'm using openSUSE, anon. It does everything Fedora does but better.
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>>52404854
There's a great shell extension called autohide top bar that only shows it on mouseover, and another one called pixel saver that hides the massive window titlebars when maximized.
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>>52405033
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>>52404794
I used the user made repo from
https://danielrenninghoff.com/2015/11/22/infinality-ultimate-bundle-packaged-for-fedora/ to install infinality.

The last time I tried was iffy. Going from 22 to 23 via fedup didn't do my install any favors to the extent that I had to re-install the OS about a week ago. This is a good chance to test it out on a fresh install.
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>>52404156
>[HorribleSubs]
This kinda of crap is why i don't watch anime desu senpai
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>>52404156
What anime is that bitch from?
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>>52405033
I said no shit de, every de I've tried is shit.
And I'd like to not spend hours daily customizing it, sure I love Linux, but I don't have the time
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>>52405217
it's literally right there on the mpv window
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>>52405216
>threadly reminder that horriblesubs exists solely to piss off the money grubbing jews at crunchyroll with don't support the industry either.
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>>52404264
>Give me stable distro with a non shit DE (no tiling manager), and that's fully AUR compatible
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>Use Arch + i3
>No problems
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>>52404264
That would be Arch Linux. I know this and I don't even use Arch Linux. I think the stupid from being in a computing environment designed by Apple is starting to wear off on you, anon.
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>>52405217
Are you retarded?
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>>52405331
He refers to women as bitches. Guess how dumb he is.
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>>52404156
>>52404520
Just use Windows like normal people.
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>>52405270
Couldn't care less desu senpai, hardcoded subtitles are cancer.
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>>52405371
>installing a proprietary OS
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>>52404156
Yo I want to try Fedora but I feel like a retard as all I know is apt for package management.

Is there a crash course on dnf for apt dummies?
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>>52405386
CR uses softsubs. Stuff that's ripped from funi or something is hardsubbed.
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>>52404371
>hahahahaha OP doesn't cuck himself like me
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>>52405413
>streaming
There's definitely no way to be comfy at watching anime, Jesus.
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>>52405419
>Not using numix square
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>>52405492
>downloading HS is streaming
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>>52405404
Sure thing anon.

>apt-get update -> N/A. dnf handles this automatically so no worries.
>apt-get upgrade -> dnf update
>apt-cache search -> dnf search

The dnf command handles literally everything. When in doubt, just about any combo of "dnf" and "help" in a terminal.
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>>52405524
how about adding repos? are there things like ppa that are easy to add as add-apt-repository?
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>>52405512
Not that anon but HS just rips streams from other places and makes them available to download. You're not streaming, but you don't have the advantages of a legitimate rip either.
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>>52405562
>you don't have the advantages of a legitimate rip either
Of course you do. I can keep it as long as I like, use a proper media player to upscale it, handle color management, etc.

Let's not pretend that TV caps are any better. It depends on the show.
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>>52405524
also what compositor does GNOME Shell use? On Ubuntu it uses Compiz and it "just works" for beautiful video playback. With Xfce I need to use Compton to get smooth video (no tearing, vsync issues ,etc.)

Do I use compton on Fedora also?
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>>52405512
>>52405562
First anon here, wtf is HS?
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>>52405585
HorrendousScriptures
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>>52405585
Use your brain senpai.
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>>52405585
High school you dropout.
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>>52405613
Too much work
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>>52405642
Literally in the thread
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>>52405554
They're known as copr.
>dnf copr enable your-repo-here
>copr.fedoraproject.org

>>52405584
Sorry anon, no clue there. I've never had problems with video playback nor have I used gnome for more than 10 minutes at a time. I do know there's a version of Fedora that uses MATE / Compiz by default. https://spins.fedoraproject.org/mate-compiz/
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I prefer Arch's architecture and package manager.
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>>52404156
Because when I gave up on the dream of plasma ever becoming stable I decided to switch back to i3 on Debian because it's been my favorite Linux experience
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>not using top meme + musl libc
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>>52405762
no worries. will give the live cd a spin now
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>>52404548
>pacman fucks up your config files
When will this meme end?

It's time to wake up and realise Arch is the superior distribution, anon.
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>>52405762
Hmm isn't too bad out of the box. Fonts need fixing mostly. Will see how it goes for a day or two.
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>>52404156
Honestly it's quite good
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>>52405118

it's incredible how true this is. i was 'that arch guy' late last year until i just got tired of dealing with minor shit all the time and just used os x and windows again. i'll probably install ubuntu or fedora at some point if i need linux.
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>>52406016
Don't forget to install the arc theme anon
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>>52406041
>being so bad at computing that you have to fix shit all the time
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>>52404264
antegros you stupid fucking piece of shit
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>>52404700
did you replace the min/max buttons in arc theme with the hover versions?
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>>52404264
you are dumb as hell
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>>52404573
>not knowing this sick meme
>its 2018 people>>52404573
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>>52404399
You know the ironic thing here is most of Arch's packages are ripped from Fedora rawhide.
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Hey bruvs.

Fedora any good? What packages are missing and such and such?
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I don't use Fedora because the second it's installed on my head the tipping begins.
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on a more serious note, currently running fedora 23 workstation with default gnome stuff... Is fedora 23 using wayland by default? Want new window manager, does it have to be wayland-compatible?
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>>52404156
>running windows
>never been over 25° C
No one should have to worry about this, buy a liquid cooler
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>>52406357
Check the login screen, there should be options for gnome-wayland and gnome-x, just pick the one you want.
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>>52406545
thank you, default set to "gnome" tried gnome-wayland and it does not log in. just as well
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>>52404706
don't update to plasma 5
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>>52406664
Yeah, Fedora's been trying to jump on the Wayland train for over a year, but it gets pushed back to the next version every time. It's almost like Wayland isn't quite ready to be a replacement to X for everyone.
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>>52406747

Few things are ready for everyone, in the Linux world.
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>>52406747
It's not so much Wayland, but GPU drivers I think.
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>>52406773
Free drivers work great on Wayland, and Fedora is a "freedom distro".
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>>52406786
Yeah but a lot of people use nvidia's proprietary drivers.
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Not the same reason but I gotta admit going from debian based distros to fedora was an improvement.
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>>52404156
I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 on my x230 and the fan is inaudible except when gaming.

Is your machine clean and or have you thought about checking your thermal paste?
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>>52406786
>is a "freedom distro".
It's not.
Unlike debian Fedora ships non-free firmware with the installation so you don't have retarded problems like wlan on your laptop not working.

But yeah besides non free firmware, non-free packages and technology regulated by retarded American patent law are absent
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>>52405320
Anon I've never owned a Mac, maybe the grass is greener, but it also tastes better. Friends MacBooks is quite honestly the best laptop I've used to date.

I started with Ubuntu 12, then went to Gentoo, then to arch which i am currently using. It's my favorite of the three, but I don't have the time to rice or diagnose problems.

Tl;dr, Linux is great, but OS X seems solid too after a test run.
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>>52404264
Manjaro xfce/openbox with Compton
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>>52404156
But I do.
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>try Ubuntu on my X200s
>everything runs mostly fine but Unity is still prone to random problems
>try Fedora and Arch with Gnome 3
>both are choppy and stuttery as fuck
>heavyweight Kubuntu somehow runs smoother than both Unity and Gnome 3 but looks ugly
>Xubuntu ends up running best
>even then, performance has its hiccoughs
>decide to try Windows 10 for shits and giggles
>smooth, fast, and no stutters, even without any sort of effect disabling or debloating

Shit's depressing man.
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>>52409226
I tried Windows 10 on my low end laptop, i was using Ubuntu after an hour. slow piece of crap with shitty touchpad drivers.
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>>52404156
I couldn't get something to work, posted on their forums which were basically dead, got no replies, so...that's why.

Although, my desktop still has Fedora on it because I'm too afraid of fucking up my Windows on it, so if I'm too late to pick Windows at the grub screen and only needed to do web browsing, I do use Fedora.
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>>52404264
>AUR compatible
what
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>>52404714
There is no one in the picture?
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>>52405584

GNOME uses mutter, which is a compositing windoow manager, like Compiz and unlike Xfce's Xfwm.

>>52406773

It's a bit of everything. Wayland figuring out stuff like primary selection, GNOME making sure that 95 per cent of the functionality you take for granted on X just werks on Wayland and the proprietary drivers that lots of people need, like it or not.

You can test GNOME on Wayland now and perhaps not notice any differences for a while, but there's no point in making it the default with lots of little, and some big, things not working correctly.
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Don't understand why any of you fags sperg out about MUH LUNIX when all you ever do is shitpost on 4chan, then download and watch chinese cartoons. You could do that on a fucking $50 chinktablet.
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>>52404651
>Software shouldn't cause your laptop to overheat except in extreme circumstances (running intense benchmarks, etc).
I can't speak for this anon, but I have a Fujitsu Lifebok T2020 with an ULV C2D (U9300 I believe) and "overheat" isn't the proper terminology but it is a good example of what happens. Running Windows (and some distros) and idling most of the time will allow it to run nice and cool but if you put that cpu to use it will tern into a personal space heater with the leafblower trying to keep it cool. It doesn't actually over heat but it gets really warm and loud. The default settings on most distros don't idle the cpu and fans properly and result in a hot, lout, mess. You can literally remove the fan from the laptop and the CPU will top out at like 90C and stay there all day. As long as the thin piece of aluminum that they call a heat-sink is attached, you can't overheat this laptop.

I used to use this machine for school and windows 7, one note, a pdf, and a web browser (with only a couple tabs) running at the same time would result in a nice note taking machine that is completely silent. Idling on linux with nothing running would result in an inferno. There are some distros that when set up properly, run right but ootb windows 7 works great.
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>>52406016
For fonts you want to install freetype-freeworld from rpmfusion, then you need to change Xft.hinting, Xft.hintstyle and Xft.lcdfilter in /etc/X11/Xresources.
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>>52411862
Whoa
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>>52404156
how the fuck would your computer overheat because of what de you are using?
and if your x220 is overheating it's most likely because you havent maintained it properly. or your retarded 10 bit 4k anime is too much for your shitty little laptop
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>>52404156
Mucky
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>>52404260
If you need the latest, why aren't you building from source?
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You fucking idiot, you only had to install the proper drivers, not install a whole new OS. Kill yourself.
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>>52405118
>>52406041
>>52406081
I kinda see the many opportunities to fuck something up while using Arch but if you're not mentally deficient, it shouldn't be too hard to maintain your install.

I installed Arch on my desktop a year ago and I've never had any breakage. I've also played russian roulette running "sudo pacman -Syu" after months of not booting and literally fucking nothing has ever gone wrong.
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>>52404264
That's basically Antergos
>chose from :Cinamon, Gnome, xfce, kde at install time
>chose at install time if you want printer support, AUR and other things to be in your base install
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>>52404156
I want to try it as second OS on macbook pro retina 13 (mid 2014) but heard the right click functionality doesn't work so that's a deal breaker for me.
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>>52404716
>>52405033
>>52405280
>>52405320
>>52406103
>>52408061
>>52415789
>stable distro
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>>52417486
>implying Arch/Antergos is not stable
Just don't enable the testing repos you cuck
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Because its not the Arch Way
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>>52405118
>>52406041
>>52417486
I honestly have no idea what you fuckers do with your Arch installs...

> Be me, want to try linux for pandoc and AI stuff
> Install ubuntu-gnome, works great, altough laptop is slightly old for newest gnome
> One day CS friend points me to i3, hesitant at first but decide to give it a try
> tfw pretty fucking convenient after a week of practice
> FF 3 months, know the basic unix stuff
> Realise I only use like 2% of the packages that game with ubuntu
> Decide I may just try save some space/RAM/processing power by switching to Arch
> Download architect ISO, install, select i3, LTS, no testing
> Copy dotfiles
>
pacman -Ss firefox vim rofi cmus pandoc rxvt-unicode fish

> Everything literally everything werks
> FF 3 more months upto now
> Have literally not 'broken' or 'fixed' anything.

So seriously, what the fuck did you guys do to break it?
The only advantage really to me is AUR and less space/mem/heat, so I won't recommend it to you either unless you need it that way
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>>52410122
Did you update the drivers?
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>>52418352
updated fresh install and system broke
#truestory
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>>52418462
my guts tell me you fucked up in your fresh install
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>>52418462
>fresh install
>has updates
Sounds like bullshit to me
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>>52417486
>aur
>stable
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>>52404156
>blaming your overheating on the OS
Just clean out your fans ffs
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>>52418545
Read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/22336

User complains about overheating issue that doesnt happen in Windows and then when other distro is tested the problem disapears

kernel version + power settings the distro uses can indeed cause thermal issues
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>>52404156
>this thread is still up
What is it with Maki threads?
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>>52419395
Quality
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>>52404156
>ubuntu isn't maintained and supported by a real company
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>>52421101
You won't get professional support unless you pay canonical $1000 a year. Enjoy your stack overflown supported OS
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>>52404156
>OP too stupid to properly install power management software on his OS
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>>52404156
How did you rice it to look like that senpai?
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>>52404264
>fully AUR compatible
Into the trash it goes.
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>>52404156
>no amd drivers
It's shit.
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>>52421192
>Install Arc-Theme
>Install Numix-Circle theme
>Change theme and icons
>Allow Gnome to change the shell, apply Arc
>Download dash-to-dock extension from Gnome

Ez anon
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>>52404156
>Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
i have no time for tipping it constantly
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B O T N E T
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>>52404156
I am but suspend doesn't work without proprietary amd drivers.
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>>52404156
Still no Photoshop. Don't even get started on "GIMP is exactly the same" bullshit.
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>>52421975
Not even GIMP devs say that
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I was runnin' through the six with my woe, you know how that shit go
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>>52404548
Citation needed on pacman.
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>>52404706
>combustibility
At least KDE doesn't burst into flames
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>>52404156
Did you try flavors of Ubuntu?
lubuntu runs well on my T410
even with Gnome 3.
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Use thermald you stupid monkey.
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>>52404260
>unfunny Game of Thrones joke
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>>52422511
>Lubuntu with Gnome 3
What. How do you think this is entirely different to Ubuntu with Gnome 3?

I love these bait threads.
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>>52404548
pacman is the only package manager i know of that DOESN'T overwrite system config tweaks.
>See archwiki/pacnew files
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>>52418529
don't use AUR then you fucking retard.

I wouldn't be surprised if you idiots broke your arch by installing AUR packages.

you fags remind me of Ubuntu fags who cry when their PPAs did the same.

fuck off.
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>>52423253
>tells people to use aur, says it makes arch superior
>calls people stupid for using aur
>anon is a fag
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>>52423325
I never recommend using the aur

if you need it fine, but you should always read the PKGBUILD
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>>52406103
Why you gotta be so ruuude?
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>>52404156
>Move to Debian Gnome, overheats occasionally
Configure tracker properly.
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>fack me all you want but am happy using windews.
>lack of.photoshit isn't soo much of an issue but having no support for autodesk and the likes is the reason linüx puts me off.
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>>52423671
Spitting the truth.
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>>52404156
what player are you using there senpai?
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>>52404156
What GTK theme is that?
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>>52425280
>I can't use wine-git and winetricks
Good job, retard. Blame adobe and autodesk for being pooinloo adoring pieces of shit.
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>>52426689
MPV

>>52426770
Arc-darker
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>>52426887
Thanks m8. This thread made me install fedora again
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>>52404156
I'm using Fedora with xfce on my old turion x2 laptop.

Runs really smooth and I like it more than any other distro I've tried.


That being said, anyone on Fedora looking to try e17, do yourself a favor and don't. It's a great de but it's pretty buggy.
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>>52427056
>that image

b8
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>>52428210
I'm genuinely confused.

Is it because the the DE came with openSUSE wallpaper?
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>>52404156
Because I don't need a kernel upgrade every other day
I'd rather have an OS that I don't have to reboot for weeks
I can use a third-party repository to keep ffmpeg updated
besides I wouldn't know what to do with this 30GB Vorbis music if I wanted to unfuck what openSUSE did to my HD
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>>52428210
What?
>>
Wow, there's a lot of people using Fedora here.
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>>52428210
I don't get it.

>>52430950
I recommend you try it, it's actually a pretty good, and under rated, distro.
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>>52426800
>Using WINE on production software
NEET detected
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>>52404156

Because some people aren't retarded like you and actually install power management packages. The software is the same and the quality of the software doesn't change just because you switch distros.

>>52404283

Cancer.

>>52404264

Just install some Arch clone?
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>>52433322
>quality of the software doesn't change just because you switch distros
Kernel version often changes between distros
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>>52405046
Except being updated, of course.
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>>52433338

Yup, but Fedora would be a stupid distro to switch to if that was your problem, given that they rarely package the newest kernels.

Most serious distros have good ways to package kernels yourself, for example make-kpkg with debian.
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oh but I do use it. my previous attempts at linux some years ago were not so successful, shit being broken in one way or another. on Fedora, however, my wireless card, GPU, everything worked straight OOTB.

even gnome 3 can be made quite usable with the Tweak Tool
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>>52433322
I keep seeing people post this.

Why is it that the larger distros that people 'sperg out about so much just don't include it and why does Fedora do a better job?

Also

>Archfag

Your opinion has been discarded. Go back to ricing your desktop with that naked 10 year old anime girl as your background :^)
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>>52433399
>I keep seeing people post this.
>Why is it that the larger distros that people 'sperg out about so much just don't include it and why does Fedora do a better job?

I'm just calling him out on being retarded. There is nothing that Fedora can do that other distros can't, and especially in regards to power management and fan control there's literally fucking nothing stopping other distributions from doing the same thing. It comes down to his choice of installed packages, which most distros ASK you about during installation.

>Your opinion has been discarded.

I'm not even an Archfag. I use Debian and have done so for years now.
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Thinking of switching from antergos/MATE to fedora/gnome
what should I expect? less battery would be my first guess
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>>52433500
Don't
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>>52433500
Don't
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>>52404156
Because I use Windows 10, the superior OS.
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>>52435126
at least if it was 7 or 8.1
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>>52435126
haha no
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>>52405187
This was the only thing holding me to jump into Fedora. Thanks
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>>52435182
I shove my keyboard up his ass until he starts moaning with satisfaction
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>>52435126
there's like 3 different icon styles there
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>>52425280
Why haven't you unpinned IE from your task bar? Is there something wrong with, like, mentally?
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>>52404156
Because Linux is for poor people who pretend to be programmers and hackers but in reality don't know shit.

Windows 10 is the closest an OS has ever come to perfection.
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Wow this thread is still up

Eternal Maki Thread
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>>52418462
Wait what? Pacstrap takes from net repos so even if you have a 50 year old ISO, your fresh install will still be of the latest possible software.

You must have messed up your fresh install.
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>>52439912
Maki is eternal.
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>>52439829
>Windows 10
>close to perfection
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>>52439912
Fuck this bitch.
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>>52435126
Disgusting
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>>52441832
Maki a shit
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>>52404965
He's right you know...
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>>52446961
No
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>>52447131
Sure he is...
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>>52404156
At least use the Arc shell theme if you're going to use the Gtk theme you nigger.
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>>52404156
>>52406016

I only have 2 things i must change in gnome3 before i can even begin to use it.

1: Desktop dash board.
2: Transparenttop bar, how anyone could like the default is beyond me.
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>>52445531
Fuck you buddy.
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>>52450247
fuck you too
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>>52450247
Maki is shit.
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>>52448626
C-Cute.

Which theme and how'd you make the top bar transparent?
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>>52404156
bumo
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>>52452370

transparent top bar: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/358/activities-configurator/

GTK Theme is default Adwaita
Icon theme is Dalisha
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