>Start using Ganoo 5 years ago
>Use Linux Mint, overheats constantly
>Switch to Ubuntu, overheats constantly
>Move to Debian Gnome, overheats occasionally
>Literally never goes over 50 degrees on my x220
>Running Gnome 3
>Very fast and stable
>Get all the new packages
>More secure than any other distro
>Actually maintained and supported by a REAL company and not 14 year old autists
Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
>start using lunix as the only OS a year ago
>start with ubantoo LTS, nothing overheats ,but frikin gimp is older than on Debian Jessie
>use debian jessie - nothing overheats but novidya drivers are 340.something
>switch to fedora , novidia drivers are like teh newest but my gpu is overheating
>tfw they dont work after a kernel update and i have to reinstall erry time even though i have dkms
>install arch somwhere in the process , it wasnt overheating and was cool but some packages lacked porish language support
>go back to ubahntoo (willy) and notice that dash doesnt autamatically refresh installed/uninstalled software
>install ubahnto LTS and use the stupid PPAs
when will it end
What's wrong with it?
Nah, the fan problem has been around with Ubuntu since 12.04.
You'll have lots of fun when pacman fucks up your config files friendo :^)
Not much, and I mean that in a good way. It installs, runs, and does what it's supposed to without a fuss. DNF is much nicer to work with than apt, and customization is done though your windows manager or DE.
Once you get it installed, visit rpmfusion.org and get their repos up and running. After that, tweak the font rendering if it bugs you. It's not bad, but Debian does it better. Here's my .Xresources file for reference:Xft.antialias: 1
And your done. Search for packages using "dnf search XXXX".
dont forget to put this to /etc/fonts/local.conf<?xml version='1.0'?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM 'fonts.dtd'>
<edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
<edit name="embeddedbitmap" mode="assign">
<edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
<edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
<edit name="lcdfilter" mode="assign">
<edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
Software shouldn't cause your laptop to overheat except in extreme circumstances (running intense benchmarks, etc).
OP, something is fucked with your laptop's cooling. I highly suggest making sure that the heatsink vents are unclogged and that the thermal paste on the heatsink is adequate, applied well, and not dried up.
A while back I bought a circa 2008 Dell business laptop and the thing would overheat doing nothing. When I opened it up, I found out why: the vent was clogged with fuzz like you'd get out of your dryer's lint filter and it didn't even have real paste between the CPU and heatsink, just a shitty thermal pad. I cleaned out the fuzz, cleaned off the heatsink, CPU, and GPU, and applied some MX3. After putting it back together I saw a 30-40C temperature drop on average.
TLDR clean out your laptops and repaste them so they don't cook themselves
been using fedora for years, it's about the only distro I've tried that I like OOTB
gnome/gtk sucks, which sucks because fedora only tends to do gnome well, but a lot of distros focus on only gnome
the only thing making me want to move away from fedora, or at least use it in addition to fedora on other boxes, is that there's almost zero long term support for fedora - you basically get around 13 months of support or until a second major release comes around, centos isn't a valid alternative unless you don't mind stuff being extremely out of date
use rpmfusion for packages not included in fedora's repo, expect a lot of stuff to be broken as fedora rarely touch packages so if it's broken upstream it'll be broken in fedora (but the opposite is true, you don't get what happens in a lot of other distros where the distro specific build is broken and upstream is fine)
agreed, but it's primarily because fedora mostly don't touch packages or configs so if it's shit it's because kde is shit
I've wanted to try out opensuse for a while to get a proper kde experience, but effort
I do love me some infinality, but I have had problems with it breaking other things. For instance the last time I tried it DNF wouldn't allow infinality and steam to coexist. >inb4 gayems
But yes, you're absolutely right otherwise.
Interesting, I haven't had trouble with infinality breaking things. Have you tried freetype-ubuntu? It looks almost identical to infinality and presumably isn't breaking things, since it's been shipping with ubuntu releases for several years now.
I kind of like Gnome, but what's the point of that bar at the top? What a waste of space, if it at least could hold tray icons (other than the defaults) but can't even do that, is there any fix to this other than hiding it?
I'd rather Unity, but Compiz randomly crashes at least once a day.
>Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
Can't stand Red Hat package management. Mint does everything I want and performs flawlessly on my hardware.
I'm using MATE Edition, because I loved Gnome 2 and wasn't impressed with Gnome 3.
>start using Linux years ago
>begin using distros that require me to manually do everything so the computer doesn't have to
>can no longer run any modern software anyway
>computer no longer overheats
Great blog OP, who'da thunk... Why don't you dust your fucking computer you slob, you should be able to push your hardware to 100% capacity without overheating.
I already did that anon, that was the first thing I did when I got my new laptop, along with replacing the screen.
Settle down guy.
There's a great shell extension called autohide top bar that only shows it on mouseover, and another one called pixel saver that hides the massive window titlebars when maximized.
I used the user made repo from
https://danielrenninghoff.com/2015/11/22/infinality-ultimate-bundle-packaged-for-fedora/ to install infinality.
The last time I tried was iffy. Going from 22 to 23 via fedup didn't do my install any favors to the extent that I had to re-install the OS about a week ago. This is a good chance to test it out on a fresh install.
>Give me stable distro with a non shit DE (no tiling manager), and that's fully AUR compatible
That would be Arch Linux. I know this and I don't even use Arch Linux. I think the stupid from being in a computing environment designed by Apple is starting to wear off on you, anon.
Sure thing anon.
>apt-get update -> N/A. dnf handles this automatically so no worries.
>apt-get upgrade -> dnf update
>apt-cache search -> dnf search
The dnf command handles literally everything. When in doubt, just about any combo of "dnf" and "help" in a terminal.
Not that anon but HS just rips streams from other places and makes them available to download. You're not streaming, but you don't have the advantages of a legitimate rip either.
>you don't have the advantages of a legitimate rip either
Of course you do. I can keep it as long as I like, use a proper media player to upscale it, handle color management, etc.
Let's not pretend that TV caps are any better. It depends on the show.
also what compositor does GNOME Shell use? On Ubuntu it uses Compiz and it "just works" for beautiful video playback. With Xfce I need to use Compton to get smooth video (no tearing, vsync issues ,etc.)
Do I use compton on Fedora also?
They're known as copr.
>dnf copr enable your-repo-here
Sorry anon, no clue there. I've never had problems with video playback nor have I used gnome for more than 10 minutes at a time. I do know there's a version of Fedora that uses MATE / Compiz by default. https://spins.fedoraproject.org/mate-compiz/
Hmm isn't too bad out of the box. Fonts need fixing mostly. Will see how it goes for a day or two.
it's incredible how true this is. i was 'that arch guy' late last year until i just got tired of dealing with minor shit all the time and just used os x and windows again. i'll probably install ubuntu or fedora at some point if i need linux.
on a more serious note, currently running fedora 23 workstation with default gnome stuff... Is fedora 23 using wayland by default? Want new window manager, does it have to be wayland-compatible?
Yeah, Fedora's been trying to jump on the Wayland train for over a year, but it gets pushed back to the next version every time. It's almost like Wayland isn't quite ready to be a replacement to X for everyone.
>is a "freedom distro".
Unlike debian Fedora ships non-free firmware with the installation so you don't have retarded problems like wlan on your laptop not working.
But yeah besides non free firmware, non-free packages and technology regulated by retarded American patent law are absent
Anon I've never owned a Mac, maybe the grass is greener, but it also tastes better. Friends MacBooks is quite honestly the best laptop I've used to date.
I started with Ubuntu 12, then went to Gentoo, then to arch which i am currently using. It's my favorite of the three, but I don't have the time to rice or diagnose problems.
Tl;dr, Linux is great, but OS X seems solid too after a test run.
>try Ubuntu on my X200s
>everything runs mostly fine but Unity is still prone to random problems
>try Fedora and Arch with Gnome 3
>both are choppy and stuttery as fuck
>heavyweight Kubuntu somehow runs smoother than both Unity and Gnome 3 but looks ugly
>Xubuntu ends up running best
>even then, performance has its hiccoughs
>decide to try Windows 10 for shits and giggles
>smooth, fast, and no stutters, even without any sort of effect disabling or debloating
Shit's depressing man.
I couldn't get something to work, posted on their forums which were basically dead, got no replies, so...that's why.
Although, my desktop still has Fedora on it because I'm too afraid of fucking up my Windows on it, so if I'm too late to pick Windows at the grub screen and only needed to do web browsing, I do use Fedora.
GNOME uses mutter, which is a compositing windoow manager, like Compiz and unlike Xfce's Xfwm.
It's a bit of everything. Wayland figuring out stuff like primary selection, GNOME making sure that 95 per cent of the functionality you take for granted on X just werks on Wayland and the proprietary drivers that lots of people need, like it or not.
You can test GNOME on Wayland now and perhaps not notice any differences for a while, but there's no point in making it the default with lots of little, and some big, things not working correctly.
Don't understand why any of you fags sperg out about MUH LUNIX when all you ever do is shitpost on 4chan, then download and watch chinese cartoons. You could do that on a fucking $50 chinktablet.
>Software shouldn't cause your laptop to overheat except in extreme circumstances (running intense benchmarks, etc).
I can't speak for this anon, but I have a Fujitsu Lifebok T2020 with an ULV C2D (U9300 I believe) and "overheat" isn't the proper terminology but it is a good example of what happens. Running Windows (and some distros) and idling most of the time will allow it to run nice and cool but if you put that cpu to use it will tern into a personal space heater with the leafblower trying to keep it cool. It doesn't actually over heat but it gets really warm and loud. The default settings on most distros don't idle the cpu and fans properly and result in a hot, lout, mess. You can literally remove the fan from the laptop and the CPU will top out at like 90C and stay there all day. As long as the thin piece of aluminum that they call a heat-sink is attached, you can't overheat this laptop.
I used to use this machine for school and windows 7, one note, a pdf, and a web browser (with only a couple tabs) running at the same time would result in a nice note taking machine that is completely silent. Idling on linux with nothing running would result in an inferno. There are some distros that when set up properly, run right but ootb windows 7 works great.
how the fuck would your computer overheat because of what de you are using?
and if your x220 is overheating it's most likely because you havent maintained it properly. or your retarded 10 bit 4k anime is too much for your shitty little laptop
I kinda see the many opportunities to fuck something up while using Arch but if you're not mentally deficient, it shouldn't be too hard to maintain your install.
I installed Arch on my desktop a year ago and I've never had any breakage. I've also played russian roulette running "sudo pacman -Syu" after months of not booting and literally fucking nothing has ever gone wrong.
That's basically Antergos
>chose from :Cinamon, Gnome, xfce, kde at install time
>chose at install time if you want printer support, AUR and other things to be in your base install
I honestly have no idea what you fuckers do with your Arch installs...
> Be me, want to try linux for pandoc and AI stuff
> Install ubuntu-gnome, works great, altough laptop is slightly old for newest gnome
> One day CS friend points me to i3, hesitant at first but decide to give it a try
> tfw pretty fucking convenient after a week of practice
> FF 3 months, know the basic unix stuff
> Realise I only use like 2% of the packages that game with ubuntu
> Decide I may just try save some space/RAM/processing power by switching to Arch
> Download architect ISO, install, select i3, LTS, no testing
> Copy dotfiles
>pacman -Ss firefox vim rofi cmus pandoc rxvt-unicode fish
> Everything literally everything werks
> FF 3 more months upto now
> Have literally not 'broken' or 'fixed' anything.
So seriously, what the fuck did you guys do to break it?
The only advantage really to me is AUR and less space/mem/heat, so I won't recommend it to you either unless you need it that way
User complains about overheating issue that doesnt happen in Windows and then when other distro is tested the problem disapears
kernel version + power settings the distro uses can indeed cause thermal issues
>Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
i have no time for tipping it constantly
don't use AUR then you fucking retard.
I wouldn't be surprised if you idiots broke your arch by installing AUR packages.
you fags remind me of Ubuntu fags who cry when their PPAs did the same.
>fack me all you want but am happy using windews.
>lack of.photoshit isn't soo much of an issue but having no support for autodesk and the likes is the reason linüx puts me off.
I'm using Fedora with xfce on my old turion x2 laptop.
Runs really smooth and I like it more than any other distro I've tried.
That being said, anyone on Fedora looking to try e17, do yourself a favor and don't. It's a great de but it's pretty buggy.
Because I don't need a kernel upgrade every other day
I'd rather have an OS that I don't have to reboot for weeks
I can use a third-party repository to keep ffmpeg updated
besides I wouldn't know what to do with this 30GB Vorbis music if I wanted to unfuck what openSUSE did to my HD
Because some people aren't retarded like you and actually install power management packages. The software is the same and the quality of the software doesn't change just because you switch distros.
Just install some Arch clone?
Yup, but Fedora would be a stupid distro to switch to if that was your problem, given that they rarely package the newest kernels.
Most serious distros have good ways to package kernels yourself, for example make-kpkg with debian.
oh but I do use it. my previous attempts at linux some years ago were not so successful, shit being broken in one way or another. on Fedora, however, my wireless card, GPU, everything worked straight OOTB.
even gnome 3 can be made quite usable with the Tweak Tool
I keep seeing people post this.
Why is it that the larger distros that people 'sperg out about so much just don't include it and why does Fedora do a better job?
Your opinion has been discarded. Go back to ricing your desktop with that naked 10 year old anime girl as your background :^)
>I keep seeing people post this.
>Why is it that the larger distros that people 'sperg out about so much just don't include it and why does Fedora do a better job?
I'm just calling him out on being retarded. There is nothing that Fedora can do that other distros can't, and especially in regards to power management and fan control there's literally fucking nothing stopping other distributions from doing the same thing. It comes down to his choice of installed packages, which most distros ASK you about during installation.
>Your opinion has been discarded.
I'm not even an Archfag. I use Debian and have done so for years now.
Because I use Windows 10, the superior OS.
Wow this thread is still up
Eternal Maki Thread
Wait what? Pacstrap takes from net repos so even if you have a 50 year old ISO, your fresh install will still be of the latest possible software.
You must have messed up your fresh install.
I only have 2 things i must change in gnome3 before i can even begin to use it.
1: Desktop dash board.
2: Transparenttop bar, how anyone could like the default is beyond me.