So, is the Prime95 issue deal-breaker ?
>Intel has identified an issue that potentially affects the 6th Gen Intel® Core™ family of products. This issue only occurs under certain complex workload conditions, like those that may be encountered when running applications like Prime95. In those cases, the processor may hang or cause unpredictable system behavior. Intel has identified and released a fix and is working with external business partners to get the fix deployed through BIOS.
Is it over? Is Intel finished? Should I wait for Zen ? So many questions, but only one answer. No.
you don't. You patch the BIOS to not do whatever causes the crash.
Literally all CPUs have bugs that are fixed in BIOS. Usually they are fixed before they reach customers, but Intel fucked up.
Microcode update anon. CPUs have a small amount of SRAM where updates are placed by the BIOS at boot and those updates can either fix or disable the problematic sections of the CPU. If the problem is caught before the CPU is released they might just burn the update into small amount of ROM on the die itself.
I can't fucking wait for the pooterpain when it's discovered that the update that fixes this also "fixes" being able to overclock non-K chips.
>No it isn't, you goddamn faggot.
yes it is, the reason it's not in the non-K microcode is because they were release later, and intel quietly fixed it before roll out
don't believe me? have you heard of a single goddamn non-K CPU that got this error?
The issue only affects a very small slice of the market anyway. If you have a problem with the hardware and you don't know anything about computers you would probably just return it immediately. The update will be on all new motherboards from here on out so those that buy newer motherboards will never need to know this was an issue in the first place.
I got this a month ago and it did not bend yet.
Doubt that would hold up in any sane court. At the very least they could get sued in the EU.
The way they advertised the K processors makes it pretty clear the unlocked multiplier is designed for overclocking the CPU.
Yep, heard about the bendy lake before installing. Also, mounting optics on rifles definitely teaches something about screws and screws accessories
At least with finalized designs CPU bugs are usually incredibly difficult to trigger. Usually the conditions to trigger them require a lot of things that a normal person would never actually do any they affect very minor things anyway. The majority of CPU bugs might just get documented and posted online so people are made aware of them but there's not usually a fix issued for them until maybe the next revision or stepping.
Technically, completely disabling BCLK overclocking from non-K skylake could actually entitle australian buyers to a refund
>You can ask for a replacement or refund if the problem with the product is major.
>What is a major problem?
>A product or good has a major problem when:
>- it has a problem that would have stopped someone from buying it if they’d known about it
The CPU talk from 32c3 by the engineer from AMD really puts in perspective.
>every second your CPU goes through billions of cycles which is roughly equivalent to several years of debugging in a lab
>trusting Intel chips
>literally have an arm core installed on the die as a dedicated backdoor core
>literally DMA access and network permissions
>proprietary java OS monitors your computer and can write to video framebuffer
Read up on intel ME. It can be turned on remotely and some chips even had 3G antennas
>implying amd have the resources to do shit like that
They are like the albanian virus.
"Hello am of too poor to spy on you, please send some personal information to us for usa botnet. god bless"
>old af Core2Quad Q8200
>Rugged no bendy bendy
>Pre-jew iSeries shit
>Manly 95W TDP
Feels good senpaitachi
Well, if I were considering Skylake, I would wait for the update and read some reports to determine whether the fix affects performance or not. If there's no noticeable impact from it, there's no problem.
This kind of thing happens sometimes. It happened with TSX for Haswell. It's a shame, but they're still good chips.
Why aren't any hackers working on cracking the BIOS files? If the BIOS can really write micro code to the CPUs memory, theoretically you should be able to turn I3 chips into I5s or I7s since they're the same chip but with locked cores like some of the older AMD processors.
>Intel has identified and released a fix and is working with external business partners to get the fix deployed through BIOS
your own posts says they fixed it whats the issue? this happens to lots of new platforms its no problem if there's a bios fix (if it doesnt gimp something at the same time)
Like with a key?
If the key we're ever released into the public and people modified their bios, then manufacturers would invalidate the warranties of whomever returns a modified motherboard.
Just like custom firmware on a PS4.
The CPU will only accept signed microcode. It is not possible to counterfeit this signature. (I don't just mean hard- I mean it is literally mathematically impossible to crack it inside of millions of years.)
The only possibilities are:
* If it turned out Intel fucked up the signing implementation, allowing it to be bypassed
* If the private signing keys were leaked/stolen
There's a couple of things here.
You could probably upgrade celerons and pentiums to i3s but not i3s to i5s. i3s and below are their own die, you cannot unlock cores that physically don't exist on die. i5s *might* be viable i7s(minus some cache I guess) but it really depends on how the hyperthreading works on the CPU. It might just be a simple bit that needs to be flipped or it might be physically lasered off which would render it completely unusable.
The other thing is the keys are likely public key encryption. Even if you examined the silicon you probably wouldn't find anything of value. The key you would need to sign updates is the private key and it's stored somewhere at Intel. If that key is ever released there's a good chance it was a disgruntled employee and Intel would sue the shit out of anyone that circulates it around, much like the HDDVD key from years ago. It's incredibly unlikely that the key will ever be cracked in our lifetime at least using the technology we have now. By the time we crack it we'll probably be using technology that is an order of a magnitude more advanced thus defeating the point.
>thinner board to cut costs causing bending on custom coolers
>improves the stock cooler but doesn't include it in the cpu anymore to cut costs
>cpus hit the shitter under stress tests
>barely any improvement in performance over last gen
>still costs more than ever
Holy hell intel is taking its goys for a ride. I feel bad for anyone dumb enough to fall for skymeme.