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Granite drop is live edition

Topre sound comparison
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fbYDZWlCBSc

>>Buyer's Guide:
>>http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
>>Where to Buy:
>>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>>FAQs:
>>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Old Thread: >>52361884
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>granite
Ugly as fuck.
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Topre > clears = greens > blues > buckling springs > all

And I think the majority of /g/ agrees.
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>>52381542
Don't leave me!
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>>52381542
Topre is just membrane you faggot. You paid $200 for a membrane keyboard.
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>>52381542
Alps > Buckling Springs > Topre >>>>> cherry and clones
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>>52381589

Even Japan says it isn't mechanical.
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>>52381589
>membrane
this is a membrane.

topre uses rubber domes.
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these are rubber domes.
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Reminder that instead of Granite you could get some of the thickest PBT in the world. They are $26 for blanks on massdrop right now and there's a group buy over at geekhack that has the same sets but with the addition of some nice dyesub legends.
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what switches are the biggest meme?
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>>52381702
clear
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>>52381702
>what switches are the biggest meme?
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>>52381672
I still haven't been able to find a picture of light grey mains and dark grey modifiers.

Hopefully I can find one to decide if I want the light greys or milks before the groupbuy ends

>>52381710
>not liking clears
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>>52381459
What are some good switches for programming? Auditory clicky switches need not apply.
I have a 6gv2 (blacks) and it's AIDS for programming because of the layout.
I'm considering browns. Maybe a QUICKFIRE XT.
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>>52381762
topre.
wish I was joking.
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>>52381776
I'm not paying that much for a keyboard. Also most people actually get lower WPM using mechanicals, considering buying a scissor switch keyboard desu senpai.
>>52381702
Any "clicky" switch (greens, blues). "MUH EXTRA SOUND", like mechanical keyboards weren't making enough noise already.
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>>52381663

Disgusting!! No plate!
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hurr durr there needs to be a rift in the communities opinions so lets perpetuate this
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>>52381803
>No plate!
enjoy you're reverb/ping
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>>52381800
>>I'm not paying that much for a keyboard.
well you can fuck right off.

a good cherry mx keyboard ain't gonna cost much less.
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>>52381830
I just linked you one retard. The Quickfire XT is less than half the price and the brown version is more than decent.
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>>52381840
>a good cherry mx keyboard
learn2read
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>>52381861
>providing no arguments
learn2noteatshit
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>Granite nordic ISO

Please tell me how retarded i am
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>>52381866
>arguments
brown is the color of shit and is no coincidence.

cm quickfire is entry level stuff.

you are a programmer, wheter you eat or not literally depends on your typing.
Do you want nice stuff or not?

Or maybe programmer means writing fizzbuzz in python on /g/ now?
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>>52381899
>Or maybe programmer means writing fizzbuzz in python on /g/ now?
I think he meant to say pro gamer
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>>52381899
>cm quickfire is entry level stuff.
That's not an argument into itself my man. You have still yet to say why it's bad.
>brown is the color of shit and is no coincidence.
"Muh shit color" Another meme, are you 15?
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>>52381899
>programmer
Where did I say that idiot? I said good for programming.

If you play football does that make you a professional football player?
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>>52381880
Have fun throwing away 90% of that international kit!
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>>52381899
#rekt
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>>52381459
>$34.99 for common kit keys that include the all the letters and F row keys
>another $30 for modifiers
>
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>>52381976
I know, atleast i have spares i guess.

Have you bought one in the past? Did you also boy the iso enter?
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>>52381994
Yeah, I have a bag with keycaps I'll probably never use, including the ISO enter with text on it.

I recently gave up a bit and got an ANSI board too, but it's so hard to get used to it.
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>>52382110
I was wondering how many cherry inserts the ISO Enter cap had, do you remember?

Mine currently has 3 and i'm not sure if that's standard or not.
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>>52381663
So... basically, a membrane.
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>>52382143
3 is the standard.
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>>52382199
>>52381612
>>52381589
what does membrane mean?
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>>52382199
>pcb right in the picture
>membrane

Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending to be?
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>>52381542
Are clears as heavy as blacks? Because I found blacks to be too heavy for my liking, but I'm tempted to try clears seeing how highly they're praised here.
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>>52382253
Those plastic sheets in the front are membrane sheets (two of them).

One membrane sheet has rows, the other has columns, both have conductive contacts at the same places. This is how the key matrix of a membrane keyboard works. As you can probably guess, these only activate upon bottoming out, since the two contacts (one on each sheet) need to be pressed together for a key to be activated.

That sheet of plastic with bumps is a sheet of rubber domes (they also come in all kinds of sizes, some keyboards just have single rubber domes instead of sheets under the keys).
When you press down on the rubber dome on a membrane keyboard, you have to bottom out in order to activate the switch, since otherwise the membranes won't make contact.

The HHKB you see to the right also has rubber domes. But the HHKB uses an electrocapacative sensor which is on the PCB in order to detect when a key has been activated. This means that you don't have to bottom out for the key to activate. The rubber dome is just there to provide tactility and something to actually press down on.

The idiots who don't know the difference between a membrane and a rubber dome should go educate themselves about how keyboards work before arguing about them.
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>>52381702
Topre. Ppl buy them cause they are expensive.
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what have I done
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>>52381542

Buckling Springs>greens>clears>all
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>>52382398
Oh thanks man. I know what those are, didn't know the english name of it. Wich keyboard did you take these from if I may ask. or is it just some random rubberdome?
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>>52381672
Link?
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>>52382494
LOL did that happen accidently or on purpose?! you can cancel it btw

>>52382518
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/blank-pbt-keycaps
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>>52381672
>>52382518
>>52382532
Also
geekhack org/index.php?topic=78563.0
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>>52382507
Just a bunch of random rubber domes.

I asked my father to bring me whatever old keyboards he had at the university storage, and he came back with an old apple extended II and a whole bunch of rubber domes. I disassembled the rubber domes just for the fuck of it.

Going to build a new keyboard with the alps switches from the apple extended.
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>>52382532
I know I can cancel, but I don't want to ;_; or do I

>>52382532
Not ISO though right? I think I looked at that earlier.
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>>52381542
>argumentum ad populum
>thinking one switch can be objectively better than another

Can you go back to your cancer containment board such as /v/?
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>>52382575
Really nice, goodluck with that

>>52382579
I havent seen it in iso sorry
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>>52382579
Im over 250 dollars on granite

yolo
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>>52382594
>thinking one switch can be objectively better than another

but anon, it clearly says so on the box!

good feeling of oneness with cup rubber
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how much have you spent on the granite drop so far, /g/?
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>>52382461
what is this sex?
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>>52382657
Nothing.

I'd get in on the drop if I could justify spending any money on aftermarket keycaps. But I already went Topre, and my cherry mx board also has PBT caps already.

And I just ordered some Topre spacebars from matt3o and I'm also getting a metal backplate for a keyboard I'm building from a swedish guy.
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>>52382696
korea
o
r
e
a

spoiler: 450$
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Are we getting Penumbra any time soon or it's still 2017?
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>>52382708
meant for >>52382672
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>>52382672
>how much have you spent on the granite drop so far, /g/?

0 $

feels good to have reached endgame, man.
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>>52381820
Enjoy you're PCB flex
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>>52382647
Sadly I only have one ISO keyboards (Though I'm getting an ANSI KC60). And it's a pain. Right now I'm using an ANSI keyset on my ISO board. It... it doesn't look great haha
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>>52382737
*only have ISO keyboards
not one
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>>52382730
>he had to pay more for hipster trash keyboard without vital keys and now he has to use FN+key to emulate 40% of keys.

lmao
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>>52382714
:-| -> 8^(
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>>52382501
Where can I find a good buckling spring keyboard?>>52382730
>expensive membrane keyboard
>endgame
end urself m9
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>>52382737
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>>52382655
Post what you got.
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>end game
>not GON keyboard

Aww bitch
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>>52382579
They wanted to do ISO but the manufacturer (Gateron) just recently got access to ISO enter molds and the vendor who invested in them doesn't want to share. Isn't that nice?

>>52382696
The keycaps are high quality PBT by BSP with dyesub legends, except for the enter and escape keys that are thick doubleshots by GMK.

You won't find the BSP keys anywhere, but the current big geekhack group buy has something that very closely mimics them for $75. You could then pick up the GMK keys from something like elitekeyboards.
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Waiting on this pupperino today, very excited.
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>>52382790
You know it
gon + zealio is my dream
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>>52382737
Using the Numbpad Enter is actually not that bad.

The only bad part is that with most ANSI (all?) sets you only get 7 1.25 modifiers so I have to use a 1 on right control

>>52382783
Why do you order 2 space bars? Isn't 6.25 included in the common kit?
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>>52382812
>Why do you order 2 space bars? Isn't 6.25 included in the common kit?

It doesnt say, i assumed it wasnt in the common kit because you could order it separately.
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>>52382804
Thinking about getting this board too (massdrop 18march shipping rip)
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>>52382783
Pretty close. Save myself 25 buckarinos because I only ride TKL/60%
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>>52382783
>iso enter
>17 fucking bucks

ayyy
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>>52382819
Ye I thought it was strange as well. Because 6.0 isn't included. But all I read on the discussion is 6.25, I guess I'm gonna have to ask.
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>>52382804
is it the variable force?
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>>52381672
I didn't realize they were so thick.
Fuck, I knew coming to this thread was a bad idea, now I want them.
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>>52382759
Unicomp keyboards. Just order from them. THey are great.
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>>52382459
this
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>>52382829
>ISO enter for 17 dollaridoos

tip top kek yurocuck
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>>52382863
:( feel you
your beloved keys arent expensive at all tho go for it if you really want them great choices
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>>52382878
I still can't understand why in hell there are two standards
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>>52381672
>blanks
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Posting endgame.
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>>52382783
Im going full autismo with 330 dollars here

couldnt decide between text and icon
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>>52382759
>membrane
The HHKB doesn't have a membrane you retard.

See >>52382398
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>>52382927
icon is bae. goes pretty nicely with the mono legends too.
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call me maximo autismo but I actually like these
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Please stop guys.

>massdrop is gonna shit its pants and fuck up
>300$ worth of orders will be wrong
>people will be mad
>rise of the neckbeards
>massdrops bankrupts and flees
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>>52382963
latin red alphabet on the side is a no for me.
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>>52382971
massdrop had 7k+ drops with everything going k
dw
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>>52382971
I really wanted that keyboard.
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>>52382995
>massdrop had 7k+ drops with everything going k
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>>52382943
better be safe anon
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>>52383025
>tfw I resisted
And I was there on the first day so I had first batch
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>I will never get an EVA themed drop that doesn't involve spending $60+ on shit I don't want

REEEEEE
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>>52383042
>no Elvish
baka casual
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>>52383052
>first batch
you mean the test batch :^)
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>>52381459
I hate how he divvies up important keys into separate packs. He knows that the majority of his audience only needs a 60% board, no less, no more. Some might need a split shift, and most will want a 1.5-control or fn, but that's it. I'm going to end up spending $249 buying a bunch of crap I don't actually need, because otherwise I've ordered pieces from incomplete sets.
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>>52383084
>He knows that the majority of his audience only needs a 60% board, no less, no more.
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>>52382915
>flipped spacebar meme
>artisan keycap meme

>>>/reddit/
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>>52383102
spooked me
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>>52383025
https://geekhack org/index.php?topic=78549.0
go for it

>>52383029
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/meelectronics-mee-what-exclusive-grab-bag
but I am looking forward to the shipping complaints
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>>52383084
hehe pretty much

>going for the mono legends look
>will literally only use 3 keys from International

s-should I cancel Int. and use other keys like # @ or blanks for ÅÄÖ?
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>>52381737
Get the milks, trust me on this. The light grey/dark grey combo isn't total shit, but the milk/light grey combo is damn beautiful. I'd pay $60 right now if somebody had a set.
I'm not kidding either, if anybody has a light grey/milk set, let me know and we'll work out a deal. If they're dye-sub, obviously I'll pay much more.
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>>52383130
are you stupid?

headphones are just manufactured together and they ship them.

there is a ton that can go wrong with 1500 people ordering various mixes of set of tiny little pieces of plastic.
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Why the fuck does everyone like granite so much?

>>52382672
Nothing and I never will
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>>52383084
>Actually using a 60% keyboard
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>>52383145
Du kommer störa dig på det i all framtid om du inte skaffar dom.
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>>52383175
>Why the fuck does everyone like granite so much?
this hobby is entirely based on memes.
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>>52383175
it's one of the only nice ISO compatible sets out there.
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>>52383165
its not that they have to order every fucking piece to make a set
they have bags and bags and bags with sets
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>>52383188
I won't cancel then I guess
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I was planning on buying a new router, found a new ASUS one that supported 8 LAN ports
But if I buy a cheaper one it's like I'm getting the Granite caps for free r-right guys?
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>>52383207
What are you planning on using for the "console key"?

There's no nordic one in the mono or international set.
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>>52382731
>>52381820
You're a what?
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>>52383309
You're ping!
You're a beep boop robot

Edit: Thanks for the gold!
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>>52382737
My bro, are you waiting on the kc60 too? They mentioned that it'd be arriving in their warehouse today. I'm hoping I've got it in my hands by the end of the week, I sent my last KC60 on a roadtrip and won't have it back for a few months ;-;
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>>52382889
I went for it.

Kinda wish they were DSA caps, but at least this way I can keep using my novelty keys without being annoyed by the profile difference.

Panda/sadster/eject caps
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>>52383308
literally cancelling the whole thing right now

No but this is the Swedish "console key" if you mean the one next to 1.

For Mono I might go with the ~ which is the ANSI default right?
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>>52383309
>You're a what?
a g-girl
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>>52382915
where can i buy those keycaps
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>>52383338
Yes. I don't know exactly how they mean but I got my DHL tacking code a few days ago, today it changed to "Processed". So I think it's starting to move. But for me it's coming half way round the world so I probably have some waiting to do
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>>52382398
It's still not mechanical.
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>>52383352
Yeah.

My plan was to use the ANY KEY
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>>52383064
dont make me do it i already cant eat for a month
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>>52382757
The only keys that argument is relevant to is the arrow keys, which emulating honestly is superior. No reason to ever move your hands from homerow on 60%. And the rest are used so rarely emulating is better, as it allows for smaller keyboard and therefor better hand position when using a mouse.
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>>52382819
It's good practice to order an extra when you buy an expensive kit. Spacebars (especially PBT) snap easily, and they're a pain to replace, as most people don't want to separate their set. You could probably make a small fortune by ordering a shitload of these spacebars and selling them marked up when people break theirs.

Mat3o seriously should have done a better job grouping the keys in this kit. Most people want keys that replace caps and split shifts. He required buying 3-4 kits total to end up with this. See >>52383084
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>>52383397
Every keyboard which requires you to press down a key is mechanical.
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>>52383399
Yea one of those from Bonus will probably do the job better, nice thinking
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>>52383371
>where can i buy those keycaps
you need to rape a japanese hipro topre keyboard.
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>>52381980
I fucking hate the keycaps market. Fucking garbage price for mere plastics.

What the fuck, economics?
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>>52383348
Nice! rip money :p
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>>52382716
>Carbon

Please don't bring that shit in anymore. It's hideous.
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>>52383447
It's probably because it's such a small market
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>>52383440
they look good but damn im not buying a topre
been thinking about stickers on my blanks
that might look alright if i get the right ones
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Friendly reminder to flip your spacebar.

It takes 10 seconds at most.

No need to thank me, you are welcome.
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>>52382915
Are those HiPros? Pretty sweet set. I'm not the biggest Topre fan, but I keep my old 104UG around for when I'm writing an essay and want that finger-sex. I'd kill to get a set of HiPros for MX
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>>52383309
BIG GUY
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>>52382790
You just ruined the beautiful purple colour with that set of keycap.

Not like there's any better choice, eh?
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>>52383471
I remember that one guy who bought like seven sets of that.
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>>52383481
>they look good but damn im not buying a topre
oh you rike cherry mx like pig?

then get nipponese keycaps for mx pigs
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>>52383482
I've tried it
And I did not like it
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>>52383440
>>52383482

>>>/r/mechanicalkeyboards
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>>52381762
Blues
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>>52383505
Is that the otaku kiibido set?

I don't remember it coming in this color scheme. That actually looks quite good.
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>>52383505
wow nty that looks awful
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>>52381762
Clears

Reds

Avoid browns like the plague
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>>52383482
I flipped my whole bottom row, get on my level.
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>>52383546
what's wrong with browns bro?
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>>52383482
I thought I was alone. It was merely accidental. I can't remember the actual side of the spacebar so I just put it in. This is better and doesn't hurt my fingers any more playing o2jam.
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>>52383505
that looks amazing
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>>52383568
shitty weak tactile bump compared to clears

also coincidentally the color of shit
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flip

flip

flipping my spacebar

they see me flipping

they hatin
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>>52383513
I need to go to reddit for actually being japanese?
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>>52383589
I think browns are pretty nice for gaming
but I'm getting my first clears soon :3
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>>52383496
Now that's next level. The orange was badly matched up with the black, combined with the terrible font.

>>52383604
Are you saying you are a pure breed Nihonjin?
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>>52383568
meme switches that people recommend because of denial of buyers remorse.
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>>52383604
Just ignore him, some people try so hard to fit in they start spitting catchphrases in an attempt not to be the black (reddit) sheep.
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>>52383130
>https://geekhack org/index.php?topic=78549.0
>go for it

Not the same keyboard. The board posted in the pic is the WhiteFox made by Mat3o. Fucking obnoxiously, you need to order like 4 kits of this granite set that HE MADE just to cover the damn keyboard. Mother fuck that guy annoys the shit out of me.
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Could someone post a picture of a flipped granite spacebar?
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>>52383613
The Clears are much better. Browns hurt my fingers.
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>>52383604
If you're here for a decent amount of time you'd learn about the cult of ripster, THE mech board autist.

Any keyboard pic juxtaposed with a shoe is likely taken by a redditor
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>>52383631
Nice. Where does one find a set like that?
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>>52383604
Yes. This is a weeaboo site. NO JAPS ALLOWED
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>MFW PEOPLE ARE SPENDING OUT OF THEIR POCKETS TO BUY A RERUN OF THE SET KNOWN TO BE THE MOST MISALIGNED IN THE HISTORY OF PBT PLASTIC


AYY LMAO SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN

LOOK AT THIS SHIT

LOOK AT IT AND I DARE YOU NOT TO CANCEL YOUR ORDER
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>>52383668
All I can see is yurocuckholdry
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t-they've learned from t-their mistakes by n-now r-right?
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>>52383654
Here m8
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>>52383697
Is it just me or does that look exactly the same as it would normally?
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>>52383693
Yeah I got a set and they were fine
hes shit postin
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>>52383711
That's the point of a flat profile, m8
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>>52383697
That's flipped, it barely shows?

Thanks
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>>52383658
Carbon SA. There was a set with Orange base (+$30 on Massdrop), to be used with the black mods. Actual base looks pretty good in actual photos. I don't know if people on GeekHack have posted photos of the set with orange base, most of them are the original white-ish one.
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>>52383475
A set costs as much as an actual keyboard. I still can't justify the prices. I bought one set, and I'm gonna stop there. But I like trying things out. :(
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>>52383197
The funny thing is, that's not the right ISO for the kit. They had to use an ISO enter from a different key-profile mould, so anybody who's never used the ISO variant of this board are going to flip their shit again when they get a DCS enter instead of DSA
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>>52383731
>>52383711
>being this stupid
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>>52383750

See F1-F12.
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>>52383771
I'm not disagreeing with you that it's ridiculously expensive. But like with most things if you can't sell much of it the production costs are gonna be a high percentage
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>>52382911
There is a dyesub GB running on geekhack

>>52381459
>buying SP PBT

Enjoy your warp.
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>>52383384
I'm still waiting with "Order placed with the vendor". It sounds like I'll be getting mine last -.-
I waited 2 months longer than I was supposed to on the first KC60, on the GH60 I waited nearly half a year, I'm not going to hold my breath on this one. It's definitely worth it, though. You'll be amazed at what that little fucker can do.
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>>52383750
Your lines are so uneven. I don't think i'd be possible to make more useless lines.
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>>52381702
clear
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>>52383829
Are you US? Maybe they took international first since it takes so much more time? Mine is on "SHIPPED ON 1/7/2016", but as I said, DHL hasn't gotten it yet (I think)
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>>52383863
you for real bro?
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>>52383482
What keyset is that?
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>>52383904
There's no doubt the keys are uneven, but your lines are absolute shit.
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>>52383505
Oh holy fuck the irony. Putting the rising sun on that keyboard is just salt in the wounds. It's like ordering an international layout with a swastika numpad
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>>52382790
Can someone explain to me what exactly GON is? From what I gather, you custom configure a keyboard and they send you the parts, but I could be wrong.
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>>52383589
Browns can arguably be the best MX set out there. Cherry browns are garbage and have too much grit, so they don't slide well, but Gateron browns are fucking heaven. Compare a zealio to 62g lubed (gateron) browns and you'll see that they're the exact same thing.
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>>52383404
>emulating is superior

Dumb bitch
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>>52383889
Yeah, US here. There's another US bro that had his shipped on the 9th, I think it just has to do with what switches or caps you bought
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>>52384083
Because of hand positioning. If however I had 3 hands, then yes, I'd agree dedicated keys would be better, unfortunately I do not.
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UK fag here.

Looking for MX blues or like.
Was thinking the Razer black widow expert 2014, with num pad and a few gaming gimmicks I may use or Noppoo Lolita Spyder 87 (US layout)
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>>52384438
>blues
>razer
just no
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>>52384459
They are just slightly modified kailh switches
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>>52384438
Corsair rapid is pretty good
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>>52384474
That's even worse, just stay away from razer.
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I need the cheapest keycap possible
Any advice?
Fyi i live in the Netherlands
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>>52384514
Because?

From what I have read their keyboards are great. Just because it's marketed as a gaming brand doesn't mean it's bad.
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>>52384526
I have yet to see a single smart guy from netherlands
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>>52384438
>>52384459
>>52384505
>>52384514
Alternatively I could fork out the extra and get a poker 3?
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>>52384438
The Razer Blackwidow is pretty solid, and the switches are fully next level. There's a great modification guide out there for FN layering and changing the RGB patterns to adjust to the layer you're on. On top of that, you can load whatever firmware you want, and it's NKRO. Plus, you can't leave out how many colors the RGB LEDs have, they're absolutely stunning. 5/7 would recommend.
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>>52384554
that's what i'd do.
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Reminder Granite "This is the last time it will be sold, for real this time" DSA is the appleshit of keycaps
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>>52384568
I like blues, but khail blues are more gaming friendly. I only play CS and CSGO so my movement isn't too key but i like every advantage. Would you still recommend it?
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>>52384035
Well of course, because a gateron brown is closer to an MX clear than an MX brown.
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>>52384580
How do you like that? I have a kalih blue board (razor), I can't play CS with it because it makes so much noise so it covers in game sounds (I play with open ear headphones though)
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This
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-SGK-4020-GKCL1-UK-Professional-Mechanical/dp/B00BTWZDNC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1452622845&sr=8-2&keywords=CM+STORM
or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Noppoo-Switches-backlit/dp/B00T1P80XY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1452620881&sr=8-4&keywords=lolita+keyboard

I'm a UK fag so UK layout is nice but i could live with toggling between the two.
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>>52384580
you can game just fine on any switch that isn't too heavy. But if you find the kailh better for gaming from personal experince, then I'd recommend you get that.
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>>52384580
>>52384656
Imo if you're buying a keyboard for gaming in mind, I'd recommend you get a non clicky light switch.
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>>52384645
I have the cooler master and it works really well, build quality is solid and works perfectly right out of the box
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>>52384711
Thanks, think I'll go for that, considering I use my numpad for weapon purchases in CS.
Can you post a posture compared to a full sized?
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They really look like they're trying to jew you with the Granite drop. I just want some caps for my Pok3r, but the most basic set includes the function row and doesn't include modifiers.. like what the fuck.

What do I have to do to get some nice blank PBT DSA caps for a 60%?
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>>52384711
Also what's up with 0 and 00 on the numpad?
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>>52384540
Read from where?

Kailh switches (which razer switches are) have shit QC and die easily
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>>52381542
Ehh. I do like Topre. Would probably rank it equal to Greens, possibly lower. Would definitely not put Clears equal to Greens. I suppose I agree with the rest. I hate to think I prefer Blues to buckling spring, but I did own both types of keyboards at once and chose to use the one with Blues.
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>>52384753
Ontop is the cooler master
Bottom is a generic dell keyboard
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>>52384802
You're not wrong, but Razer have staff members on the floor in China doing QA.

>>52384823
Oh wow, that's a fair size difference. Thank you for taking the time to do that.
Manchester pleb here, you?
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>>52384843
Aberdeen
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>>52384859
Jesus christ, people have internet there?
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>>52384885
>Oil capital of Europe
Of course we have internet

>that feel when the paki's out of tenants
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>>52382757
>>52384083
>I am bad at typing so I'm going to shit on 60% boards
JUST GIT GUD

NO REASON TO BE MAD
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>>52384906
I know it's just very isolated.
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>>52384906
So what does the 0 and 00 do, does it actually enter 00?
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>>52383156
I dunno man I'd like to see the grey combo together, but I do admit the milk/dark grey does look very nice.
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>>52384789
Just buy them from SP (the company who's manufacturing the Granite keys). You can even get the same colors as Granite, and you won't have to wait till April for them to arrive.
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Why are Costar stabilizers legal?
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>>52384935
It just sends zero twice
Useful for excel, not for much else
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>buy an ANSI
>realise that it's the meme-arrow button that will be missing
Who did this?
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>>52385085
shift + punctuation, what's the problem?
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>>52385115
shift + punctuation on my layout is :

The button that disappears is <>|
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>>52385151
shift + punctuation is > on ANSI, and : on ISO.
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>>52384656
I game on clears.
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>>52385227
My pinky sometimes get a little tired when gaming on clears, but other than that it's just fine, that's why i think lighter switches are better when buying with gaming in mind.
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>>52382716
reminder that there are still people who haven't gotten their penumbra after two years
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>>52381542
Opinion > opinion = opinion > opinion > opinion > opinion

Everyone must agree with me
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>>52381459
Can we just make this /rdg/
Nothing but rubberdomes, its not mechanical anymore
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>>52385085
Obviously you have to change keyboard layout/language on your OS.
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>>52382730
>Endgame
Then why are you here?
Go to reddit and smash your keyboard with a shoe
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>>52385312
Rubber dome keyboards are mechanical.

Any keyboard which requires you to press down something in order for it to actuate is mechanical.
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>>52385404
They arent. They are rubberdomes.
You have varing layers of plastic above the dome, but it is not mechanical. You're still suppressing a rubberdome. Not a mechanical switch that hits the circuit
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>>52381710
>>52383883
but why exactly? i figured it'd be blue/green unanimously.

also i finally have a mech board and i love it i am glad i didn't buy into the "mechanical is a meme" shit, but it also is making me want to build my own now too, maybe a 60%. is it possible to stay under $150/200 building your own? is that budget even worth it?
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>>52385361
>>>52382730
>>Endgame
>Then why are you here?
>Go to reddit and smash your keyboard with a shoe

To make people mad.
Judging by your post, I'd say it works.

Jokes aside, I'm here to bring people to the right side.
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>>52385463
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mechanical

>5: caused by, resulting from, or relating to a process that involves a purely physical as opposed to a chemical or biological change or process <mechanical erosion of rock>

So, what is the definition of the term "mechanical keyboard" ?
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>>52383604
years ago the popular "i'm a REAL 4chan anon" go-to was to tell people to go back to reddit. these days 4chan is closer to what reddit used to be, and now reddit actually has some pleasant boards/content if you know how to move past the front page.
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>>52385528
True topre fag in denial.
Its a rubberdome
Your definition does not describe anything relating to a keyboard. But nice try using it to describe it. Words have multiple meanings in different situation.
the definition we use for mechanical keyboards are:
Plastic
V
MECHANICAL SWITCH
V
CIRCUIT

Not.

plastic
V
plastic
V
coil
V
RUBBERDOME.
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>my $5 keyboard feels like shit
>but my MMKB that uses the exact same mechanism feels great

Post-purchase rationalization general.

>b-but its japanese superior rubber folded over 1000 times
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>>52385568
Now define "mechanical switch".
If "two pieces of conductor making contact" is your definition of mechanical switch, then any membrane is mechanical.
If you exclude membranes, then model Ms aren't mechanical.
If you specifically exclude capacitative stuff, then model Fs aren't capacitative.
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>>52385576
>My shitty used car drives like shit
>But my brand new luxury car that uses the same engine drives great
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>>52385568
>Your definition does not describe anything relating to a keyboard
Do you know what pressing down on something is?

A mechanical action, executed by your finger.
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>>52385624
>there are no new $5 shitty keyboards
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>>52385624
do you know anything about cars because this statement makes literally zero sense
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>>52385568
do you know anything about mechanical keyboards because this statement makes literally zero sense
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Friendly reminder that arguing with retards is a waste of time and of posts (precious posts which we only have a limited amount of).
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>>52385624
>i am a neet who buys expensive keyboards and has no idea about cars
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Being poor truly must be suffering.


- sent from my hhkb
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>>52385749
>>52385759

>Blank keycaps
Literally why?
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>>52385749
Nu uh
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>>52385759
>MMKB is expensive

Do you know how much a custom costs?
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>>52381612
>>52381626
It's the same thing, literally.
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>>52385772
>Can't type without looking
Literally why?
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>>52385872
I can, but I don't feel the need to be a hipster fuck and make it so nobody else can use my keyboard
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>>52385710
He's saying that just because two keyboards use a rubber dome that it's the same exact mechanism.
I'm saying that that's like claiming two cars use the exact same mechanism because they're both internal combustion engines.
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>>52385772
>can't touch type

Laughinggirls.jpg
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>>52385885
>Wanting other people to use your keyboard
shaking my head to be honest familiy
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>>52385914
>shaking my head to be honest family
R0flcopter laughing so hard over this
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>>52385899
It is tho.
Its rubber, its same shapped, with the same keytravel.

>b-but it actuates before bottom
Irrelevant, as its impossible to not bottom out on topre.
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How long until cherrypoors leave the general for good and we can have a thread about best switch without haters?

I'm growing tired of it.
Thank god typing replies feels so good. :)
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>>52383824
Make/ model / key caps?

Noob on the keyboard scene. But love this baby.
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So does anyone know if you get a dark grey or light grey (\) key if i order the light grey with dark grey modifiers blank pbt set from massdrop?
I can swap out the ~ key easily enough but having the \ be the wrong color will inflame my tism.
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>>52385271
Yeah I sort of feel that way about all the pinky buttons, even just for regular typing.

Considering switching them out for reds or something.
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>>52385944
Pok3r / DSA Quartz.

The keycaps are shit tho. Cant you see how warped they are?
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>>52386007
Thank you.

I'm on my phone, so can't see it myself.
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Resisting the urge to call out retards on their idiocy is difficult when typing feels this good.
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>>52385857
>>>52385759 (You)
>>MMKB is expensive
>Do you know how much a custom costs?
Tell that to poorfags foaming at their mouth because I dared spending 220$ without getting a numpad or muh arrows.

I am perfectly fine spending 220$ on a keyboard, it's them who aren't.
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Whats the opinion on that drop?
massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-87u/talk
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>>52381542
>blues > buckling springs
just for this you should be hanged from a tree by the balls
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>>52386110
Everybody is ok with people paying good money for great keyboards.

$220 for a rubberdome without even a plate is insane though.
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>>52386162
>Whats the opinion on that drop?
>massdrop.com/buy/topre-realforce-87u/talk

It's the same price as the store, but you have to wait months for it on md, and i can sell you the pbt spacebar.

Also variable force is shit, get a 45g uniform or 55g
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>>52386163
Buckling springs ping a lot. Also, you cant type on them without bottoming out. Also also, the keycap profiile of model m/f is unconfortable as fuck.
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>>52386207
>everybody
Most people would call you a retard for spending over $30
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>>52386245
Well, never seen anyone call this guy >>52382461
a retard, even with he posting his keyboard on every fucking /mkg/.

People know when something is worth it.
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>>52383495
cherry keycaps go with anything bud
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>>52386305
But that keyboard uses mx switches, so people cannot baselessly hate on it.

People who haven't tried topre baselessly hate on it despite never having tried it.

If someone came here and called people retards for spending more than 30 bucks on a keyboard without ever having tried a mechanical keyboard, would you be taking him seriously?
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>>52386207
>no plate
The plate is plastic?
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>>52385404
I don't think you understand how rubberdomes work. The change in capacitance is what causes the key to be recognized. By your logic, there isn't a button in the world that isn't mechanical. When people say mechanical keyboards, they're referencing the fact that you're physically closing a circuit with each keypress, there's a huge difference. I like Topres, but you aren't making sense.
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>>52385501
You definitely can, but if you're staying below 150, it means you haven't made a single error and you didn't prototype.
My first board cost me around ~300 to make, but I made many errors in the plate design and had to order a second, which is the bulk of the budget. Once you have your plate made, though, the rest is pretty simple. Acrylic can be pretty cheap to order, you'd get 2 layers of 5.6 made for your case, plus another smaller layer of either metal or acrylic for the plate-bottom.
Wiring, diodes, teensy or atmega are cheap, the rest is the basics (switches, keycaps). I've seen people even design their own PCBs (too daunting a task for me).
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>>52386493
>By your logic, there isn't a button in the world that isn't mechanical
This is correct.

>physically closing a circuit with each keypress
Actually, Topre is the only switch I know of to which this does not apply. MX-style, ALPS and membrane keyboards all work by closing a circuit with each keypress.
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>>52385772
They're way cheaper than dye-sub or doubleshot. That keyset costs 30 bucks new, cheaper if you buy from another /mech/.
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>>52385934
>Its rubber, its same shapped, with the same keytravel
Again, same fallacy.
Different rubber domes have clearly different characteristics. My x300 keyboard has a very nice feel, almost like a Topre with less travel. My RF87 feels great and has a really good bottom out.
Typical cheap rubber domes have much less well-defined tactility and don't feel great when they bottom out.
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>>52384543
Im pretty smart
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>>52386207
You do realize people prefer HHKB feel to Realforce feel because of this, correct?

At the end of the day the thing that only question that matters is, "Does it work and feel good?"
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>>52386667
Precisely, except on a standard membrane keyboard, there's no mechanical mechanism physically actuating the switch.

It's ridiculous to argue about whether or not Topre's are mechanical. I'd enjoy any keyboard that was made for serious typists, with high quality materials, and built with function in mind. Arguing that Topre is mechanical is a losing battle, instead, move discussion into how Topre is a high quality board, and the neat things you can accomplish with them.

These threads are all polluted with arguments over which keyboard is better, rather than discussing a neat piece of equipment you just acquired, or a custom firmware you built for your board.

It's fine to discuss why you like one keyboard over the other, I get that, but arguing that one's 'best' is absurd. I like my Realforce 108UH and my GH60 for completely different reasons.
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>>52387409
>there's no mechanical mechanism physically actuating the switch
But there is, otherwise the switch would never get closed.
Just because the contacts happen to be in a sandwich of plastic doesn't make it less mechanical by that definition.
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So if I wanted to fit a Poker 2 with this set including the RGB kit, would I need to be the common kit, the modifier kit, and the RGB kit? Because it doesn't look like the RGB kit comes with a backspace.
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So what's the obsession with small keyboards? I don't get it.
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>>52387459
>But there is, otherwise the switch would never get closed.
>Just because the contacts happen to be in a sandwich of plastic doesn't make it less mechanical by that definition.

It very much does make a difference, otherwise the board would be more polluted with membrane keyboards, rather than just the buckling-spring style, but on the premise of the original argument, a membrane keyboard using a 'switch' of sorts does not make a Topre board mechanical, yet, wouldn't you argue that a Topre is *more* mechanical than, say, an Apple Wireless? If the premise of the argument is that these threads should be populated with Topre posts because they *are* mechanical, then that argument's been lost, and the premise of the argument needs to be moved into how Topre are quality boards, rather than whether or not they're mechanical.
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>>52387716
>wouldn't you argue that a Topre is *more* mechanical than, say, an Apple Wireless
No, I'm saying it's completely pointless to argue about whether X is mechanical or not.
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>>52387620
I got mine so my computer would be more portable.
Now i can fit everything I need to use my computer in a bag that fits under-seat on a average passenger jet.

Feelsgoodman
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Someone make a new thread.

Possibly with a topre OP to make people mad.
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>>52386163
i'd say jazz>blues>bucklingsprings
but whatever
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>>52387767
I can see that, I have a spare CMStorm QuickFire rapid I use when I go to other places.
I just don't get why people use them as their main keyboard.
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>>52387830
Lots of people state ergonomics, which is kinda true.
With a 60% your hands are closer to shoulder width apart which is a little more comfortable.

For me i started using a 60% half for the plane reason, and the other half was novelty/ i dont use the other 40% much/ they look cool.
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>>52386432
Yes.
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>>52387973
Never thought about ergonomics, my posture is shit so I guess it wouldn't make a difference for me as much as others.
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>op not linking new thread

>>52387335
>>52387335
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>>52387737
Then we're saying the same thing. I only jumped in when I started seeing two people argue about whether or not Topre was mechanical.
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