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>El Capitan takes away the right to write to /usr/
> /usr/ is literally the USER folder

buhauhahahahahah

applefags will defend this
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/usr is not the user folder.
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>>52381228
agreed. Came in here to say that
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>>52381203
/usr/ isn't /home/ you dipshit.
/usr/ contains systemwide readonly files to be used by any user on the system, like programs and themes.
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>>52381203
usr is not the user folder, it's UNIX System Resources.
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>>52381321
You shouldn't be allowed to write in /home either, as it also contains other user's directories.
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>>52381203
# csrutil disable
# reboot


After reboot
# touch /usr/op-is-full-of-shit
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>>52381203
what was the rationale behind this decision?
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>>52381465
Apple users are stupid and can't be trusted with their own products
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>>52381465
Probably that it's a bug? /usr should never be user writable.
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>>52381465
Apple is for sheep, not for tech literate people.
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>>52381359
Holyshit, so that's what it stands for.
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>>52381529
it is an old definition. It is meant for user files, but in the way that Program Files in windows is meant for user files and not what OP is implying.
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>>52381477
>>52381491
>>52381495
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Integrity_Protection
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>>52381491
>/usr should never be user writable.
but that is what sudo is for
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>>52381203
Only socially insecure faggots trying to fit in with the popular crowd buy Apple.
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>>52381228
Then it's a misnomer, because it by all means seems to be derived from the word "user". Prove me wrong.
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>>52381609
See >>52381359
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>>52381572
>Program Files
What do you think in this case "System Resources" refer to if not "system program files" ?
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>>52381582
You're right, nothing to worry about!!!

Macworldexpressed the concern that Apple could take full control away from users and developers in future releases and move the security policy ofOS Xslowly toward that of Apple'smobile operating systemiOS, whereupon the installation of many utilities and modifications requires jailbreaking.[2][10]Some applications and drivers will not work to their full extent or cannot be operated at all unless the feature is disabled, either temporarily or permanently. Ars Technicasuggested that this could affect smaller developers disproportionately, as larger ones may be able to work with Apple directly.
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>>52381404
You aren't allowed to write in /home itself unless being root. Your home directory is /home/$USERNAME.
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>>52381588
>Only socially insecure faggots trying to fit in with the /g/ crowd irrationaly hate Apple.

Fixd
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>>52381629
what would say about the /bin directory then.

The directory is reserved for user programs. Fresh install with just the terminal open that directory is nearly empty.
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>>52381667
>/bin
clearly a trashcan
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USR not user

but

>taking rights away from anything
ishygddt
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>>52381359
>At the time /usr was coined, its meaning was user and home directories were located there. unix/universal system resource is actually a backronym

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8677/why-do-usr-and-tmp-directories-for-linux-miss-vowels-in-their-spellings
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>>52381639
$USER is the portable environment variable though.

Or just user $HOME or ~ for short

>>52381636
It's a concern alright, but so far it's possible to disable it see >>52381425

>>52381667
bin is for executables. That's why you have /bin (system executables), /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin

Program files are much more than just executables; it's also services/daemons.
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>>52381615
See>>52381687
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>>52381687
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard

>>52381667
See above

Can we please stop discussing what /usr is for now?
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>>52381689
Everything bad about software today has been introduced gradually. In about 3 years OS X will be as closed down as iOS.
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>>52381698
See >>52381703
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>>52381203
>$ sudo touch /usr/hurrdurr
won't work either (provided you know the root password)?
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>>52381728
sudo is not your user tho.
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>>52381714
>In about 3 years
In about 3 years your father will have chopped his dick off and requests that you call him Caitlyn too...

Random numbers aren't contributing to the discussion anon, but I'll admit that it is a shady move.

On a side note, Windows users will justify driver signing too and that it isn't possible to disable the requirement for just single drivers (you need to disable it for your entire system which is a massive security issue). This hurts hobbyists who want to experiment with their own peripherals and can't rely on generic USB or RS232 drivers.
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>>52381728
No, see >>52381425
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>>52381703
>Secondary hierarchy for read-only user data; contains the majority of (multi-)user utilities and applications

That is my point. Meant for user utilities.

>>52381689
I think some confusion. I am referring to what windows OS intended for the Program Files directory to be as a concept and not in execution. I brought up /bin because that is where the system executables go. Not ever sure what we are talking about at this point.
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http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#THEUSRHIERARCHY

>/usr is the second major section of the filesystem. /usr is shareable, read-only data. That means that /usr should be shareable between various FHS-compliant hosts and must not be written to. Any information that is host-specific or varies with time is stored elsewhere.

>read-only
>must not be written to

/thread
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>>52381742
sudo is not anybody's user, because sudo is not a user.
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>>52381321
not op
not trollin

then whats the difference between /sbin and /usr

i was told thats what sbin is for....

winblows user, just run nix on all my servers
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/usr/local is writable
You can disable SIP in recovery mode
Other unices have had similar root-limiting features

>>52381465
Negating local root sploits and basic bitch malware

Turn it off if you don't like it.
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Honestly just take away to write to anything except the desktop with anything that isn't Apple approved.
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>>52381815
have fun.
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi/OpenBSD-current/man7/hier.7?query=hier&sec=7
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>>52381815
It is leaving soon.
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>>52381790
Tell that to braindead linux package maintainers.
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>>52381869
who ever told me /sbin means shared bin

needs to be punched in the dick, thanks

explains why some shit derped when i moved it to sbin
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>>52381754
I have enough knowledge of the decision making history of tech companies to make an educated guess about this. Apple has never been about giving users control.

On a side note YouTube HAS been about recommending users not to use their real name, see what happened to them.
Tough chance Apple's going to be better.

>b-but windows users
Not relevant.
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>>52381902
fucking linux is ran by retard niggers

>everything is part of the distro
>the distro controls you
>the distro is all of your software choices
>the distro has its own patches
>it's only not part of the distro if you compiled it yourself
>everything is in /usr
>everything
>everything is part of the distro
>bash is the distro
>firefox is the distro
>grep is the distro
>ahoviewer is the distro
>everything is the distro
>you are not using the distro with other software, you are using the distro
>if you want different software you want different distro
>if you want newer software you want newer version of distro

distros are fucking cia mafias that take away user freedom
fucking nigger linux is unUNIX
fuck linux
nigger OS
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>>52381966
>distros are fucking cia mafias that take away user freedom
>fucking nigger linux is unUNIX
>fuck linux
>nigger OS
this delicious b8. made me give you a reply. ;^)
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>>52381203
>>52381477
Likewise , loonix fags are too retarded to allow themselves to use root.
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>>52381703
The FHS is shit and it's way past time that we ditched it.
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>>52381966
make your own distro if you don't like it
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>>52382140
Speak for yourself nigger, I run root all the time.
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>>52381228
>>52381262
>>52381321
>>52381359
>>52381584
>>52381639
>>52381686
>>52381689
>>52381728

>applefags will defend this

Kek fucking morons
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