Do you think humans are primiative? I've come to the pessimistic realization that we're no smarter than animals. I mean really, the only thing separating us from apes is our language and electricity. Without these two things, where would we be?
>language and electricity
and vast mechanized and automized economies and terraforming and advanced knowledge in every scientific field along with countless bouts into arts and humanities.
Nah we're really just dogs with thumbs
>no smarter than animals.
Depends on how you measure intelligence.
We are better at planning, relaying ideas and information, using tools. We are able to understand the context of our situation and not do what we really want to do.
We can learn to be good at several things, doing different jobs.
Electricity might have accelerated that but we weren't animals before.
The problem isn't that we're stupid. We are definitely among the most mentally capable creatures on the planet. The problem is that so many of us fail to use this capability and instead entrust their consciousness to the impulsiveness of their lizard brain and emotions.
This isn't necessarily our fault, however. Our impulses hold powerful sway over our minds and requires a concerted effort for one to keep tabs on its influence and keep it in check.
If we can keep from blowing ourselves up for the next several hundred years I have confidence that our genetics will eventually tilt further toward handing complete control over our conscious mind and marginalizing of the "lizard brain", as with the rise of technology intelligence and self-control are becoming increasingly required to do well in life. At the very least, I believe a divergence akin to that of the Eloi and the Morlocks from H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds.
This is why I'm staunchly against vegetarianism. When an alien race attacks, it'll be humans, not fucking cows, that fight them off. It's humans who are working to solve the energy crises, who build the rockets to go to space, who sent the rover to Mars. Once chickens and pigs start contributing to society, I'll consider not eating them.
>Likes humans more than cows
This doesn't make sense.
The world could support more people if the cows were slaughtered and people stopped eating them.
There are more cows than people on this planet and you're like "It's not the cows that'll fight the aliens off"
From the alien's perspective it looks like the cows are ruling the planet. The cows are the reason that the strange monkey creatures are destroying their planet
Do you think earth is habitable? I've come to the pessimistic realization that we're no more habitable than mercury. I mean really, the only thing separating us from venus is our oxygen-rich atmosphere and liquid-water temperatures. Without these two things, where would we be?
> it looks like the cows are ruling the planet
If they think that, they're stupid aliens. If they're going by who rules the world based on the number of a species, ants and other assorted insects would win.
Hard for a cow to say it's ruling the world when we have weaponry that could wipe them out in under a week.
This is parroted often but not true. If every human stopped eating meat right now, the arable land required to grow enough crops to feed everyone would exceed what we have available several times over. The only way it has a remote chance at working is if we stop raising water-intense, low-nutrition crops like lettuce and cucumbers and only raise vegetables with the highest nutritional content, but I doubt many vegetarians find that idea agreeable.
>the arable land required to grow enough crops to feed everyone would exceed what we have available several times over.
This is the opposite of what is true by the way.
How high intensity meat farming works now is two main ways:
1. Burning jungle and having cattle graze on the shoots and grasses that grow up. Areas the size of poland are destroyed yearly.
2. Feeding cows corn and other grains.
There is a third way and that is the pasture, but that is not the majority of cattle now. No point stopping doing that since you can't grow shit there anyway.
1 and 2 exist because of the high demand for beef. Reduce demand for beef and there's more agricultural output overall.
America's relationship with corn is a bit fucked up though. But generally, america is the exception, not the rule. The rest of the world runs on rice and wheat.
The same thing exact thing would happen to make room to grow more vegetables. The farms we have now don't have the kind of output it takes for the entire world population to go on a meat-free diet.
It might work if we convert farms to 80%+ hydroponics with floors and floors of plants stacked on top of each other and ultra-efficient water recycling, but current land-based methods just take too much space and water.
I'm not anywhere near vegetarian (I love turkey), but if you even went to the third grade you'd know as calories travel up the food chain, it requires more and more calories from the lower level to create calories in the higher level due to animals not being 100% efficient blobs of food
>From the alien's perspective it looks like the cows are ruling the planet. The cows are the reason that the strange monkey creatures are destroying their planet
Seems like pretty dumb aliens desu senpai.
You forgot the single most influental discovery that is even in your picture; fire.
When humans discovered fire it opened a whole new world where you can live in colder environments and cook food. There is a huge evolutionary peak at that point of time since cooking food made it more efficient and disease-free. That allowed our brain to have energy needed for massive development.
>Thank you Jesus for evolution
What separates humans from animals is not talking or electricity. It's fire and written language. Written language allows us to pass on our knowledge in an undiluted from to the next generation. And fire is the tool that allows us to manipulate and shape nature to our needs.
you have to consider context
"animals" ideally adapted to their context or environment are "smarter" than humans in terms of their ability to survive in the context and to detect changes in the context and to make changes -- animals with heat vision, or animals that can live in extreme conditions compared to humans
humans in most cases have better processing, and humans use symbolic processing, which many animals do not use to the extent that we do; but humans are primarily animals
if you don't think so, try not pissing and shitting for a week
florida, nazi germany
Are you serious? We literally feed cows vegetables. Everytime you feed an animal for it to grow you lose substantial amount of energy. Not to mention cucumbers and lettuce don't even make it close to the top most grown vegetables. The human race would be way better off if we would get our food source straight from the ground.
No one wants to invest in flying cars because it's a dumb idea. You're not going to convince an average person to get the equivalent of a pilot's license instead of a driver's license. Also, think of how many car wrecks we have today. Can you imagine car wrecks in the sky? Falling hundreds of feet doesn't sound fun, also in a city it would be 9/11 every day.
>the only thing separating us from apes is our language and electricity
And everything that is required for that in /dev/brain, yes.
Making language and electricity as a tool is just one piece of "software" that ran on someone's brain, /dev/brain computer can run a shitload more "software", and be it to be very good at making and throwing spears and setting traps made of the local variation of wood.
Animals don't seem to have good / big enough brain layout and supporting systems to be able to do that in nearly as much sophistication.
So really, it's a fairly huge difference anyways.
>the only thing separating us from apes is our language and electricity
What about magnets though? Without magnets we would in no way be able to use electricity the way we do now.
Even if every multi-celled lifeform died there would probably still be billions if not trillions of single-celled organisms left over somewhere. They would just restart the cycle.