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kek'd
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holy shit that's fucking awesome.
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>>52377075
Wow, that's so cool! I love taking Microsoft cock up my cute little rectum! Big Microsoft takes care of me! Linux fags just don't even know!
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Or you could've just not download the update in the first place.
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>>52377191
yeah, like you have time to scrutinize every little important update to see what it does exactly
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Just upgrade and disable the botnet afterwards
The os itself is fine
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WINDOWS LOSERS BTFO
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>>52377075
This is taking things too far.
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>have cracked windows 7
>never even got the option to update to win 10

Feels good man.
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>>52377455
I don't think that there is any real urgency in the update process. You need to slow down, pal.
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Top shelf keks
Out fucking standing, well done microsoft.
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>they still think free software is a stupid idea
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>>52377595
ive been gone for a year, is this screenshot shit still a thing
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>>52377595
You're right, instead you have to pay for your software
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>>52377455
I have not downloaded a single update since installing Win7 SP1 and I couldn't be more happy.
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>>52377620
nope
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Do enterprise versions have this nagging too? I can't imagine how much butthurt it would cause to IT departments.
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>>52377075
top fucking kek they're not even trying anymore
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>>52377075
god.
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>>52377764
yeah imagine you're running a company where all computers contain trade secrets and software that went through a lengthy certification process for Windows 7, then Microsoft comes up with that shit.

I'd flip out desu. It's just dangerous.
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>>52377075
how is that not illegal malware?
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>>52377869
How is it illegal?
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>>52377661
do you realize just how bad of an idea that is? You have literally no OS security right now.
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This is some next level of bullshit.
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>>52377494
>disabling the botnet
sure, pal
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>>52377885
You are mistaken about that.
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>>52377885
Do you not use an antivirus?
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>>52377959
Antiviruses don't do anything bro. People have been trained to want them by antivirus companies but the elephant in the room is that they no longer work.
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Resistance is futile
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>>52377876
modificating computer-data without explicit consent causing harm (unwanted 6GB-download, could cause higher ISP-costs for some)

that's illegal in the civilized world, probably not in the US.
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>>52377075
Uninstall update
Hide the update when it comes back up
Disable automatic Winblows Updates, go to manual
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>>52377523
The reason you're not getting it isn't because you have a cracked Windows 7. It's because you haven't updated your operating system.

Meaning your computer is just incredibly vulnerable ontop of the (probable) rootkit the crack team installed for you.

That said I'm in the exact same seat on the computer I have windows on. But it's important to be aware so you treat it as such.
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>>52377075
I haven't run any updates since December and KB3035583 doesn't show up in either my installed updates or as an available update.

It must rely on a previous update which I don't have because I uninstalled all the GWX and telemetry updates.
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>>52377764
I personally know of two large companies that have been completely knocked offline when they where hit with a simultaneous 3 GB Windows 10 download for every machine (they have thousands) at the same time
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>>52378095
>Meaning your computer is just incredibly vulnerable ontop of the (probable) rootkit the crack team installed for you.

Not him, but what exactly this even change for the safety of the system that you have a crack(like daz's windows loader) installed?
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>>52378095
>Meaning your computer is just incredibly vulnerable ontop of the (probable) rootkit the crack team installed for you.
>That said I'm in the exact same seat on the computer I have windows on. But it's important to be aware so you treat it as such.
Again, you are mistaken about this. You don't need latest updates for system to function properly, and you most likely do not have the rootkit from the crack.
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>>52378128
what
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Lmao, nowadays Windows doesn't have a spyware and registry hijacking problem, IT IS the spyware and registry hijacking problem
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>>52378095
I'd rather have a random 12 year old russian in charge of my computer than Obama desu
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>>52378138
What do you exactly not understand?
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>>52378105
Holy fuck.
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>>52378095
>It's because you haven't updated your operating system.
>Turning automatic updates off == not updating your OS
>Manually selecting which updates to install == not updating your OS
Yeah ok
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>>52378173
Not him, but your sentence is really, really not proper English.
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>>52378105
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So, is MS officially evil?
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>>52378095
I have cracked win7 also, all updates except KB3112343, never been prompted.
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>>52377764
>>52378105

get a competent sysadmin..
most enterprise's IT choose, which update to let through, so (in a way) it's not a problem in the enterprise sphere
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>>52378041
1/3 of the people here use only mobile-net, of which is all data-capped..
several reports of exceeding that cap because of unwanted win10 install files download (even of those that choose no when it was still possible)
and the local MS branch has yet to give any public statement about it
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>>52378469
inb4 microsoft's new p2p updating shit is hard to stop.
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Windows 7 Pro SP1fag here.
What crap, useless updates should I uninstall? What isn't absolutely necessary?
Sorry if this sounds like a noob question, I've just seen this topic here a few times, was curious
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>>52378587
useless updates like API and performance improvements :^)
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>>52377885
You think you are more secure because of the updates?
My router protects me better than Windows Updates do.
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>>52378573
I thought only win10 is with a shitty p2p system? Oo
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>>52378610
they are most likely backporting it like they are doing with telemetry and the spying shit
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>>52378604
Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm a little confused... I might totally be making myself look like an idiot here, but is there a way to differentiate between all these updates, or do they all have similar titles?

Pic related
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>>52378721
um.. different numbers?
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>>52378721
just search which updates to hide to not get the W10 nagware and get the rest, and if you happen to get infected with the nagware, just uninstall the update, they have the unique KB code
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>>52378740
Ok, sorry, a little dyslexsic. I can see they're different. I guess my question now would be where can I find the descriptions for each update?
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>>52378830
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/<kbnumber-here>

e.g.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583
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>>52378830
When you install them you can get more information about the update by pressing a link on the right sidebar.

There no option for this after you have installed a update, so you'll need to look up the update in google yourself.

>KB3068708 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry

>KB3022345 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry

>KB2952664 Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7

>KB2990214 Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 7 to a later version of Windows

>KB3035583 Update installs Get Windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1

>KB971033 Description of the update for Windows Activation Technologies

>KB3021917 Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance improvements

>KB3044374 Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 8.1 to a later version of Windows
If you have installed the last one, you might as well reinstall the OS, since you can only disable the nagging about upgrading to windows 10 but never remove the update.
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>>52377191
> inb4 they add that sleeper process in every upcoming update they release
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I like how microsoft is giving its customers the choice between an insecure OS and having microsoft take over their computing completely.
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>>52378625
Don't they have a new EULA for win10? I would expect that backporting all those shit would break their previous EULA.
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>>52379149
If you click "View EULA", it just shows Richard Stallman's head rotating slowly with shit dripping down it with the words 'This is the future you chose' along the top and 'Eat shit, we OWN you!' along the bottom.
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>>52379092
>the choice between an insecure OS
but that's objectively and factually wrong.
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>>52379149
but some updates also change the EULA and they dont even have to notify you, you are expected to check the updated eula after every update
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>>52379224
Is the US law that shit or is what they do actually illegal?
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>>52379237
EULAs with surprising clauses are null and void in civilized countries, but nobody has the dosh to fight them in court.
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>>52379248
Wouldn't a class action work? I don't know shit about law though.
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>>52377455
It's once a month and it takes 5 minutes at most.
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not updating is a bigger risk than having a 0.5% chance of getting winblows 10 nagware that you can remove, just check what each update contains before updating

and stay away from winblows 10
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Who would have thought that a curry nigger didn't know that NO means NO
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anyone tried 'destroy windows spying'? is it trustworthy?
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>>52378721
just don't install.
They provide 0 real security benefit.
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The age of Linux gaming can't come soon enough.
This shit is ridiculous.
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>>52379354

>inb4 windows uninstalls this because it's not trusted [read: proprietary at high price] software
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>>52379374
there is some security benefit, and there is performance benefit, and some APIs dont work if you dont have the latest patches
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>>52379264
If you can find a judge who dares to rule against an American multi-billion-dollar company.
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>>52377075
Holy fucking shit! That's not even legal. Good thing Bill Gates is Rockefeller's fuccboi otherwise he'd be behind bars.
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> using a registry

why
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>>52379570
>gates
nah, gates bailed a while ago... probably before the idea of harvesting everything was even thought of
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>>52377075
And I'll say it again...if Linux was less command line oriented and had only a few distros we would all be there now.
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>>52377075
Surely these upgrade prompts are going away once Windows 10 is 1 year old?

... Right?
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>>52379570
Don't criticise our lord and saviour just because microsoft russled you senpai.
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>>52379605
There are only a few real distros desu senpai. Maybe 5.
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>>52379589
Gates has pulled plenty evil shit in his own time.
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>>52377595
That font is fucking hideous by the way. That's completely unreadable even at a high size. Wtf were they thinking.
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I just wonder how long it's going them to completely block people out of their computers before "upgrading to Win10".

>>52379762
>Hipsters are out core consumer base and therefore we should cater to hipster.
?
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>>52379780
>>Hipsters are out core consumer base and therefore we should cater to hipster.
>?
You make a good point senpai.
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>>52379605
>ubuntu/mint
for noobs
>debian/centos
for (home)servers
>arch/gentoo
freaks, how want it as bare as possible

and you have few distros (2 for newbies)
aint enough?
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>>52379817
Pretty much this. Debian can be used at home for desktops though.
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>>52379745
see that list is missing words like computer games and excel... the only reasons I keep a windows drive
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>>52379817
mmm i went to mint after a couple years of arch because i just got tired of rebuilding anytime i formatted.
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>>52379880
Surely excel has alternatives. Even if you had to use google docs. Right about games though which is why I'm still on Windows too.
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>install sp1
>disable updates
>stop browsing stupid websites filled with rootkitshit like a moron

is that so hard
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>>52378095
Hello Sanjay from Microsoft PR team.
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>tfw running 7 and not having the upgrade prompt

I just want to upgrade damn it...
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>>52379831
true
though with bare debian install, you get a... how'd you call it.. a DE that doesn't look very neat, which doesn't compel to the windoze fanboys... and you'd rather won't want a new user install/configure a DE (if he's not patient and at least a little tech savy)
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>>52379605
>if Linux was less command line oriented
If Linux tried to cater to the technologically inept who can not grasp the often superior method of interacting with the computer, then it would not be any different from Windows.
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>>52378605
This.
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BOTNET
O
T
N
E
T
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Glad i installed Debian yesterday.
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I never had and still not getting any nags on my work pm, sadly
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>>52378041
no, is legal because you signed for that when you agreed to the license
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>>52379762
>That's completely unreadable even at a high size
That's probably because you're black. White people can read cursive just fine.
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>>52377075
How exactly is this not a botnet? How is it legal for MS to do this?
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>>52380770
100% legal in yurop and usa. you signed for that
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>>52380758
I am white senpai. I can read it just not as easily as a real font which makes it an inefficient computer font.
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>>52380645
SAME! Slowly building back up to the level of applications I had on windows. Any advice/recommendations?
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Windows Vista master race.
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>null out gwx.exe
>readonly
easy
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>Glad i installed Debian yesterday.
http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html

What a mess.
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>>52380758
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>>52377075
>tfw using wangblows
time to switch i suppose
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>>52379745
Uh... what is the correct answer?
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>>52377075
>uninstalled the updates that trigger this shit
>never have to worry about it
You don't even get the option to install some of them if you've removed IE. I had to go out of my way to get the windows upgrade thing to show back before everyone realized how botnet 10 was.
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>>52377075
>Using any version of windows but Enterprise
All of you deserve this kind of shit.
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>>52377075
I managed to fix this. I installed Windows 10 and the nag went away.
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>>52380824
>>>/g/flt
Now real recommendations add the backport repository as soon as possible and learn how to use it, this should be a priority if youre seriously considering using debian on a desktop.
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>>52381170
All of them are correct and microsoft wants you to realize that.
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>>52381219
$0.10 have been transferred to your Microsoft(R) account.
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Windows 10 master race reporting in. Only cucks complain about the free upgrade. Also you can block 3035583 update and prevent GWX from running. I held off the upgrade easily for several months till I was ready.

Cucks up in this thread.
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>>52381272
>being a microshill
>calling others cucks
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>>52381289
Unlike Apple, M$ allows poorfags like you to get new OS and features without paying anything. Linux is useless for PC's for home and enterprise users, which is 99% of the market. So the nice server backend market of Linux has no impact on the mainstream, hence you only have OSX and Windows to choose from.

OSX requires Apple tax and Apple certified hardware to run due to its pathetic support for device drivers. Windows can run on both Macs and non-Macs.

Give credit where its due instead of labeling every Windows user like an ignorant faggot.
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>>52381272
>You have to do all kinds of hacks to prevent the owners of your OS to upgrade it

Is this what microsoft users really believe?
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>>52381363
>all kinds of hacks

unchecking one update in Windows update is hacking? are you fucking retarded?
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JUST
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>>52379165
top fucking kek
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>>52381339
>Linux is useless for PC's for home and enterprise users
Funny, I've been using it both at home and at work as a desktop system for years.
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Class-action lawsuit when?
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>>52381490
Yeah but maybe you're not retarded.
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Class action lawsuit when?
For the ones that paid for win 7, this seems to me to break what you already paid for.

>>52381500
heh, as I was typing
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>>52381514
>heh, as I was typing
Hivemind.

I'm a channer, so I'm too lazy to bother, but how to get normalfags engaged?
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Just embrace Win 10 now guys and learn to turn all the bullshit off.

You're going to have to do it at some point eventually if you insist on staying on a Windows OS... you don't expect Windows 11 to be any different do you?
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>>52377075
Kek.
Grass is whole lot of greener on Linux & Os X side.
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>>52377523
So what you're saying is that you willingly installed a cracked version of Windows that doubtless you have absolutely no way of telling if its a clean copy, or if you've been made part of a botnet, and that this is somehow better than just installing a legit copy of Win 10 and being able to turn off Microsofts tracking bullshit given that its a well documented process?

Your logic is a bit flawed there mate.
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>>52381586
Only retards install precracked windows installs. Install a legit copy then activate it after.
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/r/ that list of Windows 10 updates. already hid all of them to my knowledge, want to make sure any didn't sneak through
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>>52381546
W10 is somewhat buggy.
Windows search ignores .exe files
Some apps won't launch from the start menu.
I'm sure there is more, but I've only used this for a few days.
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>>52378095
>The reason you're not getting it isn't because you have a cracked Windows 7.
Or he has Win7 Pro which doesn't prompt for the 10 update.
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>>52377521
Seriously, Falcon? It wasn't taking things too far at the start of this whole thing? What the fuck, man.
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I am on win8.1 and don't get gwx since I uninstalled the updates.
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http://microsoftclassactionlawsuit.com/
>Unwanted filed downloaded without permission - Files are left on the hard drive where the user may not even choose to update or use in the future
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>>52381490
Lonox servers are more insecure than Windows ones because most admins won't dare push updates that often break everything on their servers. lol
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>>52378095
Why would I care if my gaymen rig is compromised? I don't ever use sensitive information on it, and only pay for new games on Steam on my laptop, never saving credit card information, etc.

I welcome my botnet overlords.
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Linux way of securely deploying software: give root access to all installers
Trust me. It is secure.
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>>52381649
Apparently there are people who cheap out on their house Internet and just have mobile Internet that they occasionally use as a gateway for their PC (via USB). Those people had quite significant extra cost because of this.
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>>52381652
>>52381679
Aren't you getting tired of telling lies?
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>>52381649
First time I regret having a non legit licensed copy of Windows.
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>>52379605
The well-documented CLI programs and manuals for said programs are easier to use across multiple machines than the GUI programs that all differ from each other and may not be supported on all operating systems.

>spend 5 mins learning the basic of vi/vim
>suddenly you can efficiently edit text on any unix-like OS out of the box

Seriously, any amount of time you spend with a unix-like OS helps you to use ANY unix-like OS. There's not really any equivalent for Windows, because it's a special snowflake OS. If I've ever forced to use a Mac I will still feel right at home in my terminal despite how different everything else looks.
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>>52381699
Yes i am. Of course Linux is better than Windows. It is FOSS. How can it be otherwise.
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>disabled windows updates when they tried pulling that "upgrade to windows 10" tooltip update
>never worry about this shit again
>use glorious windows 7 in all of its glory

fuck off linux shills, go run 4 commands to install an image editor
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>>52381586
>>52381596
exactly. isn't that what everyone does?
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>>52381727
You're talking like Windows CMD is some arcane mystery of Egyptian glyphs.
And you're acting like Vim is unique to Unix.
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>>52381567
This. You fags don't have to use GNU/Linux, just get the fuck off Windows while you can.
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>>52381767
>requiring 4 commands to install software on GNU/Linux
>justifying using a system that tries to install malware
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>>52377075

They just keep getting more and more desperate.
The last rollout of that update installed without even needing a restart.

Had to remove it and the $WindowsBT folder from both of my parent's computers.


It's not like you cant just uninstall and hide the update. Unless MS disables that feature (they cant without pissing off every sysadmin in the world) they cant force you to upgrade.
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>>52381796
Window CLI actually is extremely complicated, non-standard, and without man pages.

>acting like vim is unique to unix
Not really, it was kind of just an example. The same is true of ssh, tar, mv, cp, rsync, bash, all that stuff. I don't really believe you actually didn't understand what I was going for, but whatever.
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>>52381827
>man pages
Are pretty much a joke. Documentation is usually shit everywhere, but especially in the FOSS world.
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>>52381767
>fuck off linux shills, go run 4 commands to install an image editor
>apt-get install gimp
or
>pacman -S gimp
both do it in one command. I don't really understand where you got four commands from. I realize you're not very bright, and on top of that this could even just be bait, but it's so illogical that I don't mind falling for it just to find out what the fuck you were thinking.

I can image some retorts you'd have to this post, so let's start off with this:
>you have to know the program's name for that!
Okay, let's search first.
>apt-cache search image editor
or
>pacman -Ss image editor
Okay, now I've got some results to pick through and I can choose one to install with the next command. That's still 2 commands, not 4. I just can't wrap my head around what you're thinking.

BONUS ROUND:
for Arch users who have setup yaourt (AUR helper that also hooks into pacman) you can purposely use super basic syntax

yaourt -S and yaourt -Ss work as expected, but you can also just do
>yaourt image editor
and you will be greeted with a list of results and a box asking you to select a number or multiple numbers, ranges are also supported (1-3 5 9 12 would work)

each result has a number next to it, just enter the relevant numbers to install those things

okay now let's say you don't know how to use these programs since you didn't have to search the web to find them and weren't forced to read info on them..

man programname

boom, you had to search for a program without knowing it's name, you installed it, and you read the manual

THAT'S STILL ONLY THREE COMMANDS MY MAN
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>>52381878
>taking the bait
EVERY
TIME
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>>52381874
I've not found that to be true, not sure what you want me to tell you. You can still just use a search engine when you get stuck if you want, but having man pages to read offline is extremely convenient. Especially if all you need to know is a certain flag. You just open the man page, hit / to search and then type in what you're looking for.
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>>52377523
Yoko Ono is so fugly. Dafaq, Lennon...?
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>>52381905
This isn't just about the baiter and baitee. It's about the innocent bystanders. It's about the people that might actually believe the bait and move on without another thought if it's not challenged.
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>>52381272
Why do you have to literally fight your operating system to make it do what you want it to?
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>>52381339
>M$ allows poorfags like you to get new OS and features without paying anything.
240 Xbox-points have been deposited.
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>>52381878
Personally i got tired of the dependency hell when having to compile from source. If you act like that isn't broken in Linux.

Sure installing huge binaries for each program might be annoying, but at least they run and install without a fuss and don't break or conflict each other.
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Lads? Am I better off adding the spy domains to my modems block list?
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>>52377075
>having windows updater enabled
kek'd
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>>52382004
I've never really experienced dependency hell and I don't have to compile from source that often.

I imagine the issue is much worse on Windows considering programs ship with all sorts of versions of their dependencies included and you can't just have it all installed once on your system.
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>>52381053
that's an interesting read
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>>52378587
>what should I uninstall
Windows
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>>52381806
If there was any other os that I could gayme on then I'd switch immediately. Till then my soul is on lease with the Microshaft satan.
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>>52382043
deprecated
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>>52381620
>W10 is somewhat buggy.
I've found it to be remarkably stable once I've trimmed the fat from it, it has a ridiculous amount of services running as standard that really aren't necessary.

>Windows search ignores .exe files
I've not found that to be the case. Say I want to launch a game that isn't in the start menu, but I know the name of, if I bash in the name of it, it finds the exe just fine.

>Some apps won't launch from the start menu.
I've not found anything I run to have any issues with W10 so far.
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>>52381922
Weaboos don't give a fuck.
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>>52380770
>Offering you an upgrade
>A botnet
Just disable the update if you don't want it.
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>>52377764
no they dont. wasnt informed about W10 on this system so far
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shouldn't EU look into this?
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>>52378288
He just had the parts of the sentence in a weird order:

>>52378128
>Not him, but what exactly does having a crack(like daz's windows loader) installed even change for the safety of the system?
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>>52382274
They're too busy defining the acceptable amount of degrees of bending for bananas and cucumbers.
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>>52379605
>only had a few distros
>WAAAH I DON'T LIKE CHOICE
Wintards, everyone.
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>>52381826
>It's not like you cant just uninstall and hide the update.

It comes back even if you hide it. Yes, MS is that scummy and desperate.
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>>52382127
>I've found it to be remarkably stable once I've trimmed the fat from it, it has a ridiculous amount of services running as standard that really aren't necessary.

Overall system stability is fine after i did a Windows reset. I tried the migration first, didn't really work, BSOD a few times when starting then ran fine, then BSOD again at next startup.

>Windows search ignores .exe files

Try searching from explorer, not start menu.

I found another bug. Windows Photo viewer stretches my vertical pictures.
Solution is of course to dump the program, but these things seem to pile up.
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>>52382343
IrfanView is God tier anyway.
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>>52381688
There's lots of places in the US where data-capped internet is literally the only kind that's available. I have several coworkers who have to live with that shit.
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>>52382488
Such is life in the Anglo world.
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You guys rag on Windows but I like Windows 10 Enterprise very much.
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>>52382752
>>
>reinstalled win7
>kept updates completely off

I know this also keeps me open to numerous vulnerabilities but fuck it, I only keep it around for the occasional game anyway and it has no direct connection to the internet.
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>>52381677

>gaming "rig"

Get out
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>>52377191

Or you could just use a proper os you don't have to purposely gimp to make it useful.
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>>52377075
Whory fucking shit!
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>>52381956
Just like in using linux
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>>52384451
Linux is more like being on a particularly well-made boat with some holes but more than enough tools and books on how to patch them up.

Windows is like being on a boat made out of weak and flimsy recycled wood that has less holes but even so the occasional few, but instead of being able to fix them you need to wait for the lifeguard to send out a patch.
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>>52381956
Basically this. We shouldn't have to do all this bullshit just to stop it. I can't even fucking install patches now for 7 because shit we don't even know what they are doing anymore they won't be upfront about it people have to keep discovering it a lot of times after the patch has been out for awhile. It's fucking scary shit.
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>>52377075
Hello,thi is Raja you be install windows 10 now! no viruses: the os
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So if i have 6Gb left on my Comcast internet for the month. Can i Sue Microsoft for wasting my bandwidth?
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>>52385344
Doubtful, it would likely be in the fineprint that installing or letting the update be installed is a form of consent to waste bandwidth. Worth looking into though.

It does waste bandwidth though for sure, it all adds up.
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Wow, just wow.
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>>52379589
Gates is still serving as a "technology advisor" and is a member of Microsoft's board of directors, so you can hardly say he's clueless about or has no influence on what is going on now.
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You wouldn't listen /g/.
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>>52379743
>Fedora/RedHat/CentOS
>Debian
>SuSE
>Slackware
>Gentoo
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>>52385646
>No Ubuntu or Arch
Not 5 distros you LIKE senpai, 5 distros that people actually could use.
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>>52379745
His EEE (embrace, extend extinguish) strategy is being applied to Linux as we speak. Linux as we knew it was "embraced" by certain parties, is now being irreversibly "extended" by systemd, and is due to be "extinguished" in the foreseeable future.
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>>52377455
about a minute of google searching gives me the precise list of updates to avoid.
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>>52385656
>talks about "distros that people actually could use"
>mentions Arch
toppity kek
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>>52385689
>had gentoo on his list
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>>52379880
Gaben offers many Linux games via Steam. Others work quite well via Wine.
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>>52380706
show me where, in the windows 7 license, that I ever agreed to this shit.

>Protip: you can't
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>>52385656
Ubuntu or Mint are Debian derivatives. He was talking about "real" distros, and such a distro must be a top level upstream distro not dependent on another.
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>>52385729
you agreed to share your personal data and get update for your machine
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I am even more kekked on linux than i am on wangblows because absolutely nothing works on linux, absolutely none but servers use them.
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>>52385716
>no LoL
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>>52385774
diary of a genius
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>>52385774
Ok, Satya.
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>>52385646
>>Debian
Hasn't Debian deprecated itself at the beginning of current year?
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>>52379921
>"if I don't seek out malware, I won't get any malware lol people are stupid"
>"there are no broad, random scans of the Internet for exploitable ports listening on commercial IP address spaces"
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>>52377764
doubt it, enterprise versions usually dont include the 'free' consumer upgrades, even shit like 8.1
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>>52385774
works fine for me bub and I'm an EE so I use a lot more software than most people
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>>52379605
> if Linux was less command line oriented
> if males would just cut their balls off
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>>52385845
>>"there are no broad, random scans of the Internet for exploitable ports listening on commercial IP address spaces"

That's what your router is supposed to protect you from. Configure firewall to drop any unsolicited packets, done.
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>>52379605
>hold my hand and put me in a box
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>>52381878
I have MS Paint out of the box on my Windows.
No commands needed.
>btfo linux shill
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>>52377595
Yeah, on OSX, an update only costs $29.99.
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>>52378587
>What isn't absolutely necessary?

Windows 7.
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>>52385729
>he thinks he didn't get rectally ruined when he agreed to the terms and policies of M$
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>>52381625
What ? I have 7pro and I still have this shitty icon to update to 10 in my task bar
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>>52379743
Yeah but normals don't know that...they see 500 distros...which means a near impossible choice...easier to not bother. The many many distros have done incalculable damage.
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>>52379605
>omg, too much choice

You would have lived happy in Soviet Russia.
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I activated with daz loader and haven't received an update or prompt since I did it a year ago. not sure if I did it wrong or what
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>>52386802
Well you installed a rootkit.
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>>52387004
There apparently is no other way to make the OS believe that a machine which doesn't have a SLIC 2.1 BIOS has one.
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>>52387080
wat
im confused by your post
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>>52387128
I think he was implying daz loader is a rootkit?


my windows update hasn't even been functional for a year. something has to be up. don't get me wrong. It's actually quite nice not getting hassled by win update. ultra stable.
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>>52387169
use disk cleanup in admin mode to clean out the windows update cache
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>>52387169
>it's nice not having to change the oil in my car
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>>52387304
Nothing at all similar. A better example would be "I don't like to change the SSL certificates on my Web server"
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>>52387345
manjaro dev spotted
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>>52387345
>>52387304
but /g/ told me I would be a fool to pay for windows and that daz loader worked fine
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>>52387439
>Rootkit works fine
well if you are the one that is spying then yaeh
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>>52377075
Holy shit lol
Why hasn't every antimalware blocked windows update yet?
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>>52377455
You don't but I do, you lazy faggot.
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After there is no Win8 support, I'm switching to Loonix.
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I'm glad I switched to Linux as my desktop OS a year ago. I knew Microsoft was heading in the wrong direction but I didn't think it was going to be this bad.

It seems like we're getting new stories like this every other week. kek
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I'll be building a PC soon and installing Win 7 on it

Is there a list of updates to avoid, or even a piece of software that removes everything related to the Windows 10 update?
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>>52387439

And it does, these idiots are just memeing you.
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>>52377699
that's not even funny why am i laughing
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>>52388785
>Is there a list of updates to avoid
All security updates, don't need that shit. Did a Win 7 SP1 install and it's lightning fast on an SSD. Since you clearly play games all you need is microsoft framework updates.

More importantly disable shit on on task scheduler like windows experience indexer, WEI is a CPU hog.
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>>52377075
why is this not a class action lawsuit yet?
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>>52388894
Because you agreed to their EULA you retard
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>>52380706

Arbitrations

pshh
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>>52388988
>implying people bother to read small print before they click
by the by, most of the people who bought a copy of windows agreed to eulas before microsoft started forcing windows 10 instals into their updates
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>>52388988
What about my copy of Win 7 that I purchased. I don't remember them saying they could inject ads into my OS
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>>52388894
There is but it seems limited to tangible problems
http://microsoftclassactionlawsuit.com/
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>>52388988
EULA's are not legally binding at all ever

This is literally adware
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>>52389040
that looks about as legitimate as a guci bag at a chinatown fleamarket. I wouldn't bite
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>>52389035
>What about my copy of Win 7 that I purchased
>purchasing windows
Why? Been pirating windows since Windows 95/NT/98 SE.
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Isn't there anti virus applications that can remove this? I don't want to install windows just to test it out.
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>>52389077
because it's not expensive for me
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>>52389109
Anyone can afford Windows, but why buy it when it's so easy to get free? Sounds kinda retarded yo
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Whats worse is that if I uninstall this update, then it'll just reinstall itself the next time I do updates and theres no blacklisting I can do to stop it
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>>52389150
Why buy music online when you can download it for free?

Principle.
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>>52389157
it's simple, we kill wusa.
Our systems shall remain functional and full of chinks, one definition or another.
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Vista does not have this problem.
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>>52389177
>Why buy music online when you can download it for free?
>buying music online
hard copies or no buy
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So Microsoft tried giving the OS away for free.
No takers.

They tried to fix every complaint about windows 8.
No takers.

Then they installed pop up ads in the old system.
People found a way to remove it and Microsoft could not get people to move over.

New update to close the loophole of ignoring the ads for their shitty OS nobody wants.

So Microsoft is officially dead right?
The evil sticker company is no longer relevant.

Installing gentoo is less of a hazzle than playing whack a mole with Microsoft.

OSX is also getting worse by every release but at least they don't have ads yet.

Linux is pretty much perfect but nobody wants to install an OS, because that sounds complicated.

Is this how the desktop died?
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>>52389348
>No takers.
well actually 100 million plus takers, but seeing as there are probably over a billion windows computers, thats only like 10% compliance
>>
THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION IS IRRELEVANT.
One word:

Games.
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>>52380847
>>52389215
Vista is its own problem
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>>52389362

There are more computers still using XP than computers running 10.
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>>52389362
Half of them were "tech journalists" and the rest clicked on it by accident.
Nobody who knows what they are doing are willingly installing windows.
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>>52389430
>tfw most of these are handling money or sensitive information
Not to mention the banks with fortran shit still.
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>>52379817
Arch isn't bare.
From most mainstream distros, Arch actually offers the least amount of choice.
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>>52381586
>>52378095
I mean it's a legit copy of windows, but it was owned by a friend who used the key so I just used Daz loader to crack it. Probably a little safer. Either way, never got credit card info stolen or my porn history exposed so I don't really care.

>>52381922
The world may never know
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>>52381677
You are baiting, but it's sad that there are actually people like that in the world.

They should really stop enabling criminals.
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>>52387169
>I think he was implying daz loader is a rootkit?

Technically it is one, but there's no proof it does anything malicious. It does use rootkit-like techniques to hook itself between the BIOS and the OS and fool the latter into thinking the motherboard has specific SLIC tables in its BIOS (which it doesn't, if it did there would be no need to use the loader).
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Speaking of activating Windows, where the fuck do the people at r/microsoftswap or whatever it's called get all those keys and are they legit?
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>>52377885
your most important security should not be a function of the OS. if you have a good antivirus, firewall, router setup, etc. you should be able to use any windows without the built-in security measures. it's not like windows will protect you from the really bad shit. windows "security" is literally made so grandma can still open IE no matter what.
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I had to buy a Windows for my computer (because games otherwise I wouldn't care) and I just bought an OEM version, it cost like 20€. better this than a cracked version for me.
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>>52379354
It's at least as trustworthy as Windows itself.
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>>52389836
there is no difference between the "cracked" version and the OEM
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>>52389861
maybe but I'm never too paranoid
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>>52389348
>Linux is pretty much perfect
Not in my experience. Agree with everything else.

I gladly put up with a few minor annoyances to not sell my soul to an evil corporation.

Mint was easier to install than XP or 7. It already comes with the stuff that I'd have to install next after a win install. I don't understand why more people don't try it when you can get a used drive from ebay for $15-$20 and not risk anything but a little time.
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>>52379354
You can just write one bat file to do it yourself... it's not that hard with Powershell.

Mine's about 300 lines and took me a half day to do.
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>>52379605
I doubt it. The predominant reason I'm not on linux is the lack of mainstream application support... Which is why I know use this beauty.

If anyone is interested in OS X or owning a mac, just get a used pro (2009 and up) and just upgrade its hardware to fit your needs. I spent less than $700 total on this thing
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>>52386388
Updates have been free since OS X came out over 15 years ago.
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>>52379605
>if Linux was less command line oriented and had only a few distros we would all be there now.
Windows is bad but Linux for desktop use is far worse

http://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html
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>>52390628
nice try but will gobble NSA dicks on windows rather then getting AIDS on AppLEL.

so no thanks

shill
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>>52390795
this is not a valid response though.

>>52390628
what not hackintosh?
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I think the best part is there still isn't a compelling reason to switch from Windows yet despite all this shit.
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>>52377075
>thread on /g/ about an issue most people already know about
>the fix is either literally not downloading the update people have already said is bad or uninstalling the update, and deleting said files and register entries.
>this thread gets almost 300 replies
Keep blaming mobile users and /v/ leakage for making this board shit you hypocritical, toxic retards
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I'm still using windows xp so I don't give a fuck. It's being supported until 2019 so fuck the haters
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>>52390853
>why not mackintosh
I considered it, but it seemed too unstable. I did a lot of research beforehand and read about so many issues people had encountered. I never found a single account of someone who'd owned their machine for a while and never had issues unless they literally NEVER updated anything. I want to be able to update, tweak, and install whatever I want, whenever I want without worrying if I'll get a kernel panic error. I'd prefer my shit work with little to no effort; I don't have time to troubleshoot my main computer 24/7.
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>>52390795
You are absolutely correct. Apple pays me to encourage others online to buy pre-owned Macintosh computers from unauthorized resellers off of eBay and install 3rd party hardware while using their recently free OS.

Fun fact: the reason i initially made the full jump to linux from windows (before I used homosex) was because of how ridiculous their shit was getting. After seeing the failed abortion that is Windows 10, I am so glad I jumped ship when I did. It's like I preemptively quelled the ultimate toxin from my body before a nightmarish plague struck civilization, except everyone was really looking forward to the plague as they thought it would be so enjoyable that it'd make up for the last plague.
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>>52391077
you're right the updates bring trouble, but once your sort those issues out, your system usually becomes rock solid stable.

Benefit is that you get to use extremely powerful hardware that not even apple offers.

Disadvantages are what you mentioned.
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>>52391406
Yeah, I felt the cons outweighed the pros

I wouldn't have been AS opposed if updates were't semi-frequent. I didn't like the idea of my system's stability and/or ability to update depended on hackers to release kext scripts after every pushed update, and even then, whether or not it would work was (sometimes) subjective to the hardware you used in your computer.
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>>52378364
> 2016
> Took this long to realize MS is evil

They've always been evil. Same as Apple, Adobe, Oracle, Sony, and others.

Proprietary software shills who want to make sure nobody except for them are able to use a computer, and they will literally install malware to your system to make sure you don't.
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>>52379220
They're both insecure. The only difference is that with Microshaft in total control you have to pay money and wait for weeks or months for anything that breaks to get fixed.
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>>52392096
I think most people knew they were "evil" but they just didn't care. The thing is how much abuse you are willing to take for convenience, I'm willing to use Win 7 with telemtery disabled but I won't use Win 8/10 no matter what, so they're kinda forcing their luck here desu, they give you no choice but to stop using it. Which is just what I'll do since I did have dual boot for quite a while.
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>>52392164
That's true.

I once had a guy say that it's not worth trying to stop people from spying on you because "you have to use big passwords".

Literally he said
> Other than the concept, what everyday problems do you run into from that?
> I can think of a few you run into trying to avoid it all
> 40 character passwords?
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Well, who really cares if Haji or Ivan gets into your stuff? It's a temporary breach that can be fixed.

Long term tracking is a horse of a different color.
If I knew:
What sites you visit and how long you spent there?
What news sites you visit?
What stories interested you?
What stories you passed by?
What threads you open?
What comments you reply to?
Does ridicule shuts you up?
How do you respond to rational arguments, emotional ones?
What angers you, what pacifys you?

If I knew these things, I have power over you. I know how to influence you. I know how to manipulate you. I know how to influence you to vote a certain way or accept certain things without resistance.

We're coming to the age of effective AI's. What do you think they're going to do with that?

Yea, I know it sounds tin-foil hat stuff, but knowledge is power. You think they will only use it only to sell you things?
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>>52392553
> Google roots through my history
> "HIGH TEST THREAD"
> "Friendly Linux Thread"
> tvtropes.org
> any thread with a hot girl as OP image
> generally visit just long enough to save OP image
> hours upon hours of the /g/ catalog

I see what you're saying though. It's fucked up, and it really enrages and frightens me that nobody seems to give a shit.
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I noticed that update today and hid it
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>>52386388
Is that why Apple charged me $30 for Snow Leopard?
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>>52393633
>nobody seems to give a shit.
It is scary. People willingly sell out the human race. They don't realize the implications.
The future ain't looking so good.
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