Skylake is completely broken.
Let alone it can't take a cooler heavy than a 50c coin, now it can't even process heavy loads without freezing.
Did you buy the Skycuck?
I just swallowed a sunflower seed with the hull on while laughing to this.
Am I gonna die now?
LGA2011-3 is the best platform right now, not Skylake. DDR4, more shit, better CPUs, sometimes even cheaper because fucking prices on Skylake right now are retarded.
The only problem is trying to make a 2011-3 ITX system. There's only one board that's ITX and it's not very good, it's expensive (you have to buy a shuttle barebones), and it kind of defeats the purpose since you can't do quad channel DDR4 or use all the PCIe lanes.
The only options right now are:
Too expensive, not worth the money
4790k is a really good option. And its only $70 more than the i5 skymeme
Highest IPC, but meme issues like this one, bending. etc.
>any year post 2007
>nah I expected the earlier amd's to fail because their names sucked, but Zen has the swag and will make amd market share great again.
We can only hope. I just recycled my last AMD system (literally recycled, not repurposed). It was kind of sad. I had a lot of good memories of that machine. It'd be nice to have AMD around again.
For multi core performance, yeah. intel fucked something up and single thread performance is worse on skylake compared to haswell for some reason.
Even then, skylake has like 5% better ipc compared to haswell at best.
Single core performance is 5-10% better than haslel at the same frequency.
Keep in mind that Skymeme benefits from higher memory frequency.
Early bench probably used 2133-2400 DDR4.
It's cheaper for a far faster 2011-3 based system than a shitty skylel.
Hell it's less than $30 more than a 4790K based system, why the fuck wouldn't you want 2 extra Haswell cores for $24.59?
When plebs thought the 2600K was 'TEH BESTEST FIND EVAR!111!!ONE'
Pretty much anyone who moved from LGA775 (or whatever MAD socket) to 1156 was a cuck.
>Thermal Design Power is electrical usage.
>unapproved and unlicensed 3rd party equipment is breaking your expensive sensitive 14nm process equipment.
>using 3rd party equipment ever instead of the tested and approved intel coolers
>It's intel's fault you're a retarded ricer fag who needs to overclock to live!
>Intel's own 'tested and approved' tower cooler causes the problem too.
>In fact so does intel's own 'tested and approved' TS15A 'thermal solution'
Where are your shillbux now Sanjay?
I will always buy Intel™ because I only play games with Intel Inside™. Intel also pioneers innovative new technologies like Hyper Threading Technology™, Intel Rapid Start Technology™ and the highest quality chipsets to ever grace motherboards.
When I boot up with a brand new Intel™ i7™ with the latest Z chipset, I can enjoy the games the way they where meant to be with Intel Inside™. Intel™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth experience with its Hyper Threading Technology™.
Intel i5™ is also very power efficient. A processor is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a processor. Which is why Intel™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AMD processor at all. I tried once, it caused so much heat that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Intel™ also pioneered how useless MORE CORES is with the i™ series processors. Years ago, everyone thought MORE CORES were the future. Now, Intel™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Intel™ with its powerful IPC. MORE CORES will never be part of Intel's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AMD shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Intel Inside™. Intel™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Intel C++ Compiler. He is probably too poor to afford the Intel Inside™ experience and can not afford to play any games.
Don't be a poor gamer with bad chipsets and a huge power bills. Play games with Intel Inside™
not entirely true, the i7s have 2mb more of L3 which can improve performance drastically under certain situations, also higher binned in general and can OC to higher clock speeds.
>Bug in AVX, much like the infamous Pentium FDIV bug..
Like the one where if you pressed a certain key combination, followed by Delete, you got sucked into the computer and had all the internet downloaded into your brain?
>intel is finished and bankrupt
>tfw they could probably fuck up real bad for the next 5 or 6 gens and still feel nothing but a small dent at their revenue and profits. They wouldn't even lose money.
>We keep having this discussion like every two years for the past 10 years.
Nah, no. Phenom 2 was great, it was like a core 2 but with 6 cores at 4ghz, and pretty cheap too.
Excavator is good as well, basically piledriver +15% ipc and lower power usage - shame they aren't actually building cpus with it. (but understandable since they are building up for Zen launch and don't need more old stock that wouldn't sell)
Probably not a good idea. I'm coming from an i5-4670k and the performance gains are minimal.
what this guy said. I've got a 6600k now because my motherboard died and I saw it as an opportunity to upgrade the whole system.
personally i think they should have released an updated fx line based off of excavator.
just to give amd loyal's something to upgrade to and make them more competitive in the $100 - $200 budget range and make the company look like they're trying to be competitive in the cpu market. instead of sitting there going "well we are working on zen!!! (late 2016, early 2017!, just wait three more years of nothingness!)"
a 6300 upgraded to excavator 15%+ boost ipc plus an easy overclock to add an extra 10% boost would make the 6300 a strong competitor against all non k i5's.
I dont know anon, I'm running my 6600k at 4.4ghz, it doesnt go higher than 68°C at 1.2v.
I'm sure it can go higher easily, but for now its enough for me, and I'm not even watercooling.
Also the problems you're talking about are bound to happen, and you should know its not that smart make it out like Intel is shit when no one is using AMD CPUs for this kind of task in the first place.
mid range non K Skylakes are best value right now, 6600k is best value for enthusiasts if you dont need HT.
now kindly go fuck yourself.
Those who buy AMD CPUs for their niche performance (they are the best bang for the back if you can push all 8 cores), those people would already have an FX chip and an Excavator based one would only be an incremental upgrade. And it might not even scale well enough in high-power scenarios (the apus are all what, 45W max?). This is without taking into account any other possible incompatibility with motherboards and such.
At this point doing an AM3+ update would take engineering resources away from Zen, and if Zen is really as good as it is then they are wise to concentrate on that with full steam.
a lot of amd fx 8 core bulldozer owners ditched their 8150's for the newer piledriver 8350's when they came out.
i think they would of done the same for excavator. they did it for 10%, they would of glady done it again for another 15%.
>1.2v needed for 4.4ghz
Holy shit batman, that's fucking shitloads of voltage...
My 4820K doesn't go above 1.05v at 4.3ghz...
>Buying what is essentially massively overclocked notebook parts for full price
This is why you ALWAYS go HEDT.
enjoy your house fire
i switched from a house fire fx 8350 oc 4.6ghz and a 290. i got a 6700k when it came back in stock at sane prices and a gigabyte g1 980. room dropped 7 degrees, 850 watt psu down to a 550, and reduced electricity bill. ditched my 240 rad to a single fucking 212 evo.
no way i was going to go to intels house fire platform after being on amds.
>Only $24 more than 4790k
>Explicitly chose $120 set of 16GB RAM.
Dude. You choose the cheapest set of memory from a reputable manufacturer of the amount of RAM you want. There is no fucking benefit to getting really fast RAM unless you're using the embedded GPU for gaming.
That $120 set of RAM should be a ~$65 set of RAM.
Nah, still using my 4670k.
If anyone went 6600k or 6700k they got absolutely cucked. If your workload actually uses ddr4, there's no reason not to spend the extra money on going Haswell-E with the x99 platform. It was pretty obvious to me that the announcement of Skylake was going to be super underwhelming, and that anyone who updated from Haswell, Sandy Bridge, etc etc. to Skylake was paying a fuck ton of money for minimal improvements.
>He fell for the hyperthreading meme.
>Over 95% of all games use 4 cores or less.
>Paid ~$100 (or about +30%) more than a 4690k for incredibly situational improvement.
>Could have used that difference to get a tangible performance difference in either more SSD space, more storage space, or an entire step up in GPU tier such as 960 -> 970 or 970 -> 980.
> implying using DDR3 is such a massive downgrade
For the average user, 8GB or 16GB of DDR3 RAM is perfectly fine and more than enough. It's the power users or professionals - or the autists who need the latest and greatest as it hits the shelves - that can see (or say they see) a performance spike.
>If you use the current 28.7 version, you will need to create a text file in the folder using Notepad. You can do this by right-mouse-clicking in the Prime95 folder and selecting New > Text Document. Give the text document the title “local.txt.” Once the file is created, double-click it to open with Notepad and type the line CpuSupportsFMA3=0. Save the file in the same folder.
>You have to do this because, according to the bug finders, by default the newer version of Prime95 will use AVX2 and the error appears to only occur with AVX.