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So 4K Bluray disks will become available in 2-3 months time, but what exactly is it going to be played on?
I haven't seen any PC 4k drives. PS4 nor Xbox one support it.
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>>52368910
>4K Bluray disks

Are they really going to be 2160p?
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>>52368910
A 4K blu-ray player.
duh.
What kind of retarded question is that?
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>>52368910
You have to buy an HD BlueRay player. Samsung has announced one at CES for example.
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Panasonic's got one on CES.
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>>52368944
>The new format will support a resolution of 3840 x 2160, as well as high dynamic range (HDR), higher frame rates (up to 60 frames per second) and object-based immersive sound, such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X.
>Video will be encoded under the High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC) standard, and use 10-bit colour depth and the Rec. 2020 colour space.
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>>52368944
If it says 4k it has to be 4096x2160
If it says ULTRA HD it will likely be 3840x2160
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>>52369058
My mistake I thought they were going to parallel 4k and Ultra HD. Looks like they threw cinema res into the trash and are just using 3840.

sorrow.
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>>52368956
is it a completely disk new format/codec or can I just rip it with my 5.25** blu ray drive and TVbluray players just dont support it because they cant decode it so fast ?
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>Getting excited over 4K when 8K is just around the corner

4K is like the 720p of the HD world, everybody jumped on that shit when it came out then 1080p came out.
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>>52368982
cant wait for the hobbit rerelase then, if it supports up to 60fps yay
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>>52369209
>8K is just around the corner

top meme
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>>52368982
>and use 10-bit colour depth

Oh look, the animefags were in the right yet again.

WHEN WILL YOU MEME ENCODERS LEARN.
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>>52369058
Why is this horizontal difference of 256 pixels a thing?
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>>52369234
believe it or not, companies are already getting ready for the film industry to upgrade from filming in 5/6k to filming in 8k
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>>52369340
Literally the only film going to using 8K cameras is GOTG 2 and it's using the first 8K cameras ever invented.
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>>52369225
>60fps
SVP, son.
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>>52369340
most already shoot in higher resolution and then downsize/crop. it doesnt make sense to shoot 4k for a 4k screen, you shoot higher for a 4k screen
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>>52369266
aspect ratio
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>>52369394
yeah no shit mate, it only works to a certain level of motion, especially in high action scenes it just doesnt work aswell as native 60fps
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what will the next 1080p be? a 1080p monitor/tv bought in ~2007 can still be used today, but it seems like 1440p monitors are deprecated. I wanna get a 4k monitor within the next 2 years, but I don't wanna get memed and end up with outdated tech a year later
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>>52368910

Lets say I download a 4K Blu-Ray RIP. Probally going to be around 60-100 GB. Can I stream it through DLNA to my 4K Smart TV
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great now torrents are going to be even bigger

yify save us
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>>52369408
yeah I already knew that.
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>>52369450
Normal 1080p film is about 30GB, which is about 40 minutes of downloading.
2160p encoded with HEVC will be max 60GB, so 1h 20min of downloading.
Seriously, how impatient can you be?
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>>52369450
>yifi
you fell for the meme son
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>>52369490
my internet isn't that fast.
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>>52369450
Nah. 4k is a meme. Don't spend money on that shit yet.
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>>52369524
Where do you live?
Here the lowest option is 100Mb/s
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>>52368910
will they downgrade gracefully on my 1080 player until i can get a 4K tv?

i'd be pretty upset if i'm going to have to re-buy new releases when i eventually upgrade my hardware

how much of the spec has changed?
would a PS4 in theory support these?
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>>52369546
Near Houston Texas

I have the lowest package offered by comcast and it's like 25mbps
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>>52369356
You know actual film can be scanned at any resolution?
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>>52369442
4K is the next 1080p anon
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>>52369603
You have never developed a film, haven't you?
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Can't wait for 28 Days Later on 4K Blu-Ray. Shit is going to look amazing.
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>>52369663
No it won't London is shit.
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>>52369700
I think you're missing the joke
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>>52368910
I really liked that movie
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>>52368910
finally I can see EVERY. SINGLE. PORE. on matt damons face
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>>52370030
>2160p encoded with HEVC will be max 60GB, so 1h 20min of downloading.
I lolled
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>>52369225
i remember reading it wont support 48fps.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1422517486
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>>52368910
Just in time for h265, but I will probably need new monitor, oh well its time to upgrade anyway
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>>52370118

Sounds about right, to me.
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>Games are 60GB downloads
>Now movies will be too

What joy. I'm so happy. Weeeeeeeee.
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>>52369209
720p and 1080i were released around the same time.

Only people who couldn't afford a "full" HD screen bought 720p.
Most early "HD" content was 720p rather than 1080i though.
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>>52369546
Not him, but I'm in the rural midwest and 3meg is the fastest around me.
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>>52370171
I'm gunna wait 2-3 years for 4k to get mainstream and cheap.
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>>52370212
>tfw they murdered YIFY
>tfw no 700MB 4K rips.
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>>52369546
different anon,
3 mb/s, drops down to 56k once you exceed the 10 GB monthly bandwidth cap.
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>>52368982
.The new format will support a resolution of 3840 x 2160, as well as high dynamic range (HDR), higher frame rates (up to 60 frames per second) and object-based immersive sound, such as Dolby Atmos and DTS:X

Does it support all those at the same time?
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Gonna git myself a 4K monitor from Korea, bitches. Aw yiss.
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>>52370264
there's joybell on kickass torrents who makes HEVC rips about that size (better quality too), even releasing 4k stuff too. plus another few HEVC uploaders as well, YIFYs death was a necissary loss.
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Meggers
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>>52370420
>Gonna git myself a 4K monitor from Korea
>which will have atleast 3 dead pixels, and wil bleed backlight like a bitch in heat

k
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Finally you'll be able to see into Matt Damon's pores.
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>>52370444
Who gives a shit none of this is bluray lossless.
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>>52370430
with 8k we will finally be able to see between the molecules of Matt Damon's face
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>>52370504

Of course it isn't.

Also, Blu-ray at 1080p isn't lossless. Blu-ray at 2160p certainly won't be lossless either.
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I own The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) in 4K and it looks great, but there isn't a significant gain over 1080p.

The best thing about blu-ray is still lossless audio, though. I'm saving up for a new receiver with Dolby Atmos processing.
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Will VR headsets become better than super large TV's?
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>>52370517

That's upscaled you fucking idiot.
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>>52370553
Still better than this web-dl garbage.

>>52370558
>I own The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) in 4K
NO YOU DON'T.
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>>52368910
Who cares, you have to have a screen the size of the wall and be sitting with your nose pressed up against it to tell the difference.
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>>52370601
>Still better than this web-dl garbage.

Of course it is. What are you even trying to argue here?
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>>52369447
jeesh, just download YIFI rips bruh...
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>>52370601
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>>52370558
>buying a bluray player
>not ripping your Blurays with MKV Maker
>not playing back those blurays with literally any player you want
>not fighting back against draconian DRM
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>>52370687

This means that they've scanned the film in 4K and downscaled that to 1080p and released it on that disc. You could just as well call it a remaster.
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>>52369409
Well that doesn't make much sense. 1080 and 720 are both HD and defined by their vertical resolutions. To say something is 4k seems it should just mean 2160 vertical.
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>>52370745
Either way, the new scan looks great. The 7.1 audio mix is really unnecessary, though, considering the core track is Dolby Mono.
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>>52370572
VR headsets will have the best colors (due to OLED) and huge size
But TVs will always have the higher resolution and huge price

I'm already planning to get rid of all my monitors once 2k HMDs are out
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>>52369266
>Why is this horizontal difference of 256 pixels a thing?

Movie industry snobs.

UHD is for consumer plebs.
4K is for the professional artist who only accept the very best in image quality.
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>>52369618
You're a retard, aren't you?
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>>52370832
>TVs will always have the higher resolution

At a certain point you really can't tell the difference.
What Apple calls "retina".

Surely we will have "retina" VR sets before we have 8K TV's?
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>>52370660
That 4K WEB-DL is pointless and not worth existing. That there is no point to the image you posted. I could grab a 195 GB "4K" rip of Daredevil right now but it'll just be memeshit.
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>>52370745
How do they even "scan" film?
Don't they use drum scanners, like photographers use to digitize 35mm film?

"4K" implies they are filming a fucking projection with a fucking digicam.
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>>52370924
I approximate it will be about 2-3 years until we even have 4k HMDs (which equals a 2k monitor)
16k HMDs will probably be 10 years or so
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>Spinning discs

kek
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>>52371012
Not A projection, the actual film is scanned again.
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>>52371055
>eye cancer rips & streams
kek
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Soon it will be time for me to upgrade to 1080p. Huehuehue
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>>52371055
What did you just say bitch?
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>>52371122
>tfw P2415Q user for about a year now
I don't know how people like you can function without wanting to cut their wrists
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>>52371084

Then why "4K"?

Film isn't scanned in "K"
It's scanned in ppi.
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>>52369436
True, but when there arnt explosions everywhere and everybody isnt running like a bat out of hell, works pretty well.
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>>52371188
http://www.howtogeek.com/199182/ask-htg-how-can-studios-release-high-definition-versions-of-decades-old-movies-and-tv-shows/

Go read learn or just watch the video.
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>>52371177
Pretty much like this:
https://xkcd.com/606/
Except with everything tech related. I get to live like a millionaire from 15 years ago.
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>>52371188
Because that's the final product, plus there's a limit to how much detail you can get out of different film stock.

the eva blurays just came out, which was made on 16mm, and there was debate among /a+m/ encoderfags over even releasing the series in 1080, since MadVR and MPV do such a good job with upscaling.

Seriously, its only in 1080 because of one really detailed map with topography and even then there wasn't that much of a difference.
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>>52371168
The mighty lazer disk
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>>52371355
Eva came out on Bluray? What? What group released it?
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>>52371355
>Because that's the final product

No, the final product is 1080p

I am fairly sure the "scanned in 4K" is pure bullshit meant to confuse consumers.
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>>52371487
>I am fairly sure the "scanned in 4K" is pure bullshit meant to confuse consumers.

You must be a stupid person.
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>>52371417
2D4U from RX872 I think was his name doing 10bit, and then there's sephirotic whose more of a fan but wanted 8bit, both are good, Seph has more grain.

Anno made them color correct based off the DVD, so its not a very good remaster, but those guys have been doing extensive color correction to make it up to par
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>>52371417
Just wait and hope Coalgirls does a release so you can enjoy it with 80% more bloat.
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What's the new encryption on these 4k discs and how long will it take to break?
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Finally, Netflix 4K and those Sony 'remastered in 4k' films are nice but I want some 4K blu-rays.
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>>52371029
The resolution of HMDs is directly related to the resolution of cellphone displays.
4K cellphones are just on the horizon.

If you think that 4K HMDs are 2-3 years away, then I have bad news for you, Nostradamus.
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>>52369234

>budgeting for 8K when intracortical neuroprojectors are only two decades hence

stay plebe, trog
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>>52369588
Holy shit I have 10 mb/s I just torrent on my school network, it has 50mb down and 50 up
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4k HEVC 10bit 60fps movies.. holy shit
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>>52369209
More like 1440p is the 720p of the UHD world.
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>>52373878
and 3D
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>>52371417
>not downloading untouched blurays
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>>52369209
8K Blu-Gay no way. This is the exact reason why I have no Blu-Ray players in my home. Those MPAA motherfuckers are purposely trying to stimulate the market because every movie that hits the theater today is DOGSHIT.
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>>52374011
>420gb
so thats like ~10 blurays?
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So I want to upgrade my TV soon, but anything over 42" wouldn't work for my TV room (the tv sits on a table about 4-5 feet away from the couch)

Would 4k even be worth it in this case?
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>>52369663
Hahaha. I found the bluray for super cheap, got all excited. After 5 minutes of watching I threw it away. Vhs looked better than that pos.
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>>52368910
Put 4k bluray disc in 4k player?
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>>52374245
>4-5ft away
you will probably see a difference between 1080p and 4k.
didnt your parents ever tell you to not sit so close to the tv?
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>>52374245

No
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>>52374245
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>>52369266
The movie industry uses its own standards.

There is DCI 4K which is 4096x2160
and what everyone else calls 4K 3840x2160

>>52369058
> The technology quadruples the number of pixels from 1,920x1,080 pixels with today's HD to 3,820x2,160 pixels with UHD.

I wonder if an update will be enough to make ps4/xbone work with the new discs ?
i'm going out on a limb here and saying that because the new 4K discs will use HEVC , the current line up of players can't decode it/don't have the power for it and thus a new player is required.
If that is the case than a simple update on the consoles should be able to fix it.
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>>52369546
best i can get is 11Mb/s
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Plot twist: Uses HDDVDs
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>>52373936
no 3D, the new bluray can't into 4K 3D, only 1080p 3D
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>>52368910
Just buy another player goy
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>>52368910
Xbox one supports video up to 4k
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>>52370413
HDMI 2.0 I think can. Not sure about 4K 60 though.
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>>52369561
>will they downgrade gracefully on my 1080 player until i can get a 4K tv?

Downscaled 4K > Native 1080p though, and the better colors are going to do wonders for banding, practically eliminated now.
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>>52374188
exactly, actually.

i'm working on remuxing them with the perfect collection DVD stereo english dub, because i hate the tin-can effect on the 5.1 remaster
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>>52374804
>banding, practically eliminated now.
bruh.. banding comes from compression not from not enough colors.
People already can't distinguish between the 16 million colors, 10bit ain't gonna help with that.

>>52374616
there is a difference between outputting video in 4K and being able to playback these new blurays that will be using HEVC.
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