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>plebtinium

>>52365797
fuck off, retard

>>52365814
>>>/sqt/

I do recommend getting an AMD Athlon X4 860K, two cores with no hyperthreading is just not enough if you ask me.

>>52365728
Should be able to hit 4.5 fairly easily. You'll probably want to be manually controlling the voltage at that point though, as auto voltage tends to put way more through than necessary, resulting in housefire temperatures and possible damage to your chip.

>>52365887
Retard alert

>>52365914

Mind explaining why?

>>52365908
4.5GHz on stock? The fuck m8
>>52365728
Maybe 4.2GHz max if you are crazy lucky. Not sure though. I know for sure there are that go to 4GHz on stock. 3.8 is decent.

>>52365728
if you want to play GTA you NEED 4 cores, so x4 860k

>>52365952
Who the fuck said anything about gta v?

>>52365952
Here come the gaming idiots. He mentioned nothing about gaming you autist. Read his question, if you can't contribute then fuck off.

>>52365728
My G3258 was able to hit 4.8ghz peaking 80 degrees with a 212.

And then, because it's completely fucking useless in 2015 let alone 2016, i sold it and bought an i5.

Don't even bother with it unless you're using a low end GPU and only plan to play older/indie shit.

>>52365951
>>52365969
I got to 4.0 with 50 idle 70 under load

>>52365951
oops my eyes somehow skipped the 'stock' part

either way, 4, maybe 4.2 should be doable with a bit of effort.

>>52365985
Which is exactly what I was saying?

>>52365908
Will my stock cooler be able to handle that much heat>>52365951
Yeah im at 4.0 now but fan is spinning as fast as it can>>52365982
Yeah its not for heavy gaming

>>52365969
Feel free to explain ANY other situation this is useful in then, fucktard.
>boring facebook shit
It'll be 100% fine at stock settings
>Intense programs
Either need more corez or are GPU accelerated at which point it's fine at stock settings
Or, the -ONLY- reason anybody buys the G3258
>vidya
As >>52365982

>>52366009
Stop moving goalposts idiot.
Why it's useful for him is none of your business.

>>52366033
But there's literally no scenario where the G3258 is useful. That scenario does not exist.

>>52366057
yes it does.

g4500 is better.

>>52365797
this. Why are you so fucking poor OP? Should have just built an am1 desktop instead.

>>52365728
A friend of mine runs tgis on a stock cooler at 4.6 ghz, i didnt believe him until he actually showed me, not every chip is the same tho

>>52366057
Again that's OP's problem. His question was how much can you OC on stock. Maybe he just likes to OC for the sake of it and that's his hobby?

>>52366033
Exactly what i thought you dumb motherfucker.

Now go find a thread where people are talking about 980 Tis and complain about the vidya discussion there too

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>>52366083
>Now go find a thread where people are talking about 980 Tis and complain about the vidya discussion there too
Nice projecting there buddy, just because you do the same with your gamur shit in threads that have nothing to do with it doesn't mean I do the same in their threads.

>>52366075
Or, you could not talk stupid shit.
Fucking OC hobby on the stock cooler are you actually this fucking dumb?

I will tell you exactly why OP made this thread, it's because he bought the G3258 and now in many of his games there's stuttering and general low performance. To try and fix this, he'll overclock it as much as he can.

And then, in a few months, he'll realize how futile this is and sell the CPU to another dumb motherfucker and buy a quad core.

The G3258 is fucking useless at everything it can possibly be used for, and again this is coming from somebody who had a good one. Even at 4.8ghz the gaming experience was absolute shit compared to now with my 4590.

>>52366113
>he still plays gaymes
lel gtfo fag

>>52365797
it's plebtium* holy fuck you tripfag

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>2 threads in 2016

>>52366009
The trick is nog buying the best hardware and building a good PC everyone can do that.
Its about being able to squeeze as much power out of the hardware for me

>>52366133
so?
>having dubs
>2016
lel get fucked

>>52366127
nah, plebtium sounds weird.

>>52366135
No, the trick is to be able to use your fucking computer for it's purpose.
The G3258 has none. It cannot game in 2016 (GTA V, Far Cry 4, Fallout 4, Cities: Skylines, etc etc), it's a pointless waste of money for pleb shit and if you actually need CPU power for any programs you run, non-retards would buy sandy/ivy-era xeons.

>>52366205
Summer is 5 months away, it's time to stop posting buddy.

>>52365982
This. Hell, even an i3 is better than a plebtinium.

>>52366225
Shut up, admit you wasted your money, save up a bit more and sell the G3258.

Never fall for intels jewing shit again after your H8x/H9x experience, wait for zen like me.

>>52366205
Fucking idiot. What if the purpose of OP's computer is to emulate PCSX2 and that's it? The G3258 is one of the best in the world for PCSX2 emulation especially when you consider the cost.

What if he doesn't care about modern AAA trash and just wants to browse mongolian cartoon boards as quickly as possible?

>>52366287
this

>>52366264
lol get fucked fat weebshit

>>52366306
>lol get fucked fat weebshit
my nigga

I forgot to mention >>52366264 kys you stupid fat weeb retard. Your future Zen will suck megacock.

>>52366287
Or you could spend the money on a modded PS2 you stupid fuck

>>52366385
>taking examples literally
autism

>>52366385
Can't play wii games or dwarf fortress on a PS2

>>52366385
>paying money for a modded piece of 20 year old hardware
Modern emulation has pretty much surpassed anything the PS2 could do natively. Not to mention the convenience of being able to download isos and play them minutes later. Looks like the only stupid fuck around here is you.

>>52365942
>muh cores

>>52365728
It has its pros and cons

But for a budget build it's a great CPU, you can upgrade later anyway if you want to.
People do say it bottlenecks some later gen gpus, but thats for like triple A games.

Its only 2 cores with no hyper threading, and it's like 3 ghz at stock. But you wanna oc if you want performance

Can't really see other downsides

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>>52366205
>cannot game in 2016
>GTA V
runs gta on high settings fine paired with a 750ti
>Fallout 4
Broken piece of software still playable with medium settings

Its a 50$ processor that runs 2016 games on medium/high settings. If you want to pay 300$ more so you can get ultra high settings and be hurr durr masterrace fuck off to your containment board /v/

>>52365969
fix what is making you stupid.

the only reason anybody buys that pentium is for gaming and amd memes

>>52365797
Here comes the tripfag which shills shitty APUs which are equivalent to 8800 all day.

G3258 is only useful for dedicated emulation boxes/HTPCs that don't run modern games and aren't needed for productivity. The single-core performance on them once OCd is excellent which makes them good for Dolphin, but the lack of parallelism makes them a very bad choice for current games.

>>52370344
What's the price difference between an i3 with a h81, and a g3258 with a b75 or h97?

>>52371670
Not him but I'll answer.
i3-4160 + GA-H81M-H: £124.48
G3258 + MSI H97M-E35: £112.93

That's an £11.55 saving for a lot less performance in parallel applications (and also no AVX2 or AES-NI).

>>52371796
Thats nog true the g3258 had better performance

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>>52371856
Not true except in heavily single threaded workloads that can't use AVX2. One example is Dolphin. Everything else is far more comfortable with an i3. Pic related, [email protected] only just matches the stock 4130... and that's in a 2012 game.

>>52369227
Thans Yeah i got him already im just overclocking
>>52371796
Where do you live, in my country te i3 alone is already €120 the g3258 is only €65

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>>52371856
Here's another example. Can't find an OC'd comparison but still... ouch.

>>52371984
UK. 120 euro sounds about right for an i3. What's the total cost for you with a cheapo motherboard, and how does it compare to G3258+OC-capable motherboard?

>>52371856
A g3258 can not match an i3. The i3 has a larger cache iirc, plus it has 4 threads.

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The G3258 is a piece of shit. Daily reminder that /g/ recommended it hard for budget gay men systems only 18 months ago. You guys are retards desu.

>>52372022
I paid 100 for mine g3258 + oc mobo
That wil be any where between, 190 and 210

>>52372097
>I paid 100 for mine g3258 + oc mobo
Okay well that sounds like a pretty good deal so don't worry about it anon. If it's working well for you, stop dwelling and just go enjoy your games.

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>>52372097
That's a pretty good deal 2bh.
I just checked aus prices and there's a 40 dollar difference between the g3258 and the i3 when you factor in the motherboards, whereas just the cpu the difference is around 70 dollars.

Of course another alternative is to get the athlon 5350 and overclock that. You can easily get a 25% overclock and it should be even cheaper than the Pentium without falling behind much in performance. Also the stock cooler is enough for the overclocked athlon, not sure about the pentium though.

>>52370805
He shills them because of the value which is fair. An unlocked a10 apu costs around 100 dollars and outperforms all cpu+gpu combination price-wise.

Also the igpu on those things is actually pretty impressive. The one on the a10 7700k has almost the same performance as an r7 250 (ddr3 version) dgpu.

Not everyone plays shitty unoptimized games like arma 3 so using and apu is a great choice for 1080p gaymen on low settings. You can also use a dedicated gpu later and overclock the apu cpu.

I also agree with him, the pentium processors are solely for plebs. The cheapest i3 is like 100 bucks.

I'm not an AMD shill either, honest. I have an i3 4170 and an r9 270x. But for someone on a really tight budget, an APU is a good choice.

>>52372079
THIS. not all games are unoptimized pieces of shit. Also, all the new vydias coming out work best on 4 threads. I've forced my i5 desktop to only have 2 threads on boot via msconfig and many games either had low frame rates or crashed/did not start at all.

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>falling for the plebtinium meme

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>>52365728
>2016
>dual core

>>52371530
They literally have no use other for highlighting the stupid AND poor. You can get the same plebtinium single thread performance by disabling hyperthreading on an i3 for using shitty emulators. You're also never guaranteed to go past 4.0 ghz on all pentium processors, it's a gamble. To top this all off, most games have problems running on two threads.

>>52372619
They were pretty good before 2015 when most games could only use two threads efficiently. But yeah, having less than 2 threads in 2016 is a huge embarrassment.

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>>52366127
Its plebentium

Bentium is from spurdo remember?

>>52372526
here are your 50 rupees, Prajeet.

>>52372774
xD ur so underground:P

>>52366057
>what is a HTPC
>what is a home server
>what is a PC for grandma
>what is a PC for 99% of people, desu

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>>52372797
Are you going to explain what I said was wrong or are you going to meme me to death?

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>>52372526
A8 7600 is 40 dollars cheaper than the i3 4170 here, can match it in multicore and has a very decent igpu.

Perfect for a steam machine or budget home computer. Also has fsb overclocking.

>intel

UNETHICAL, NEVER FORGET.

>>52372680
I'm not a Pentium fan but to be fair:
>You can get the same plebtinium single thread performance by disabling hyperthreading on an i3
You cannot. A hugely overclocked G3258 will definitely beat out any i3 in a single-thread task, assuming a non-AVX2 load and few background tasks.
>shitty emulators
Dolphin is not shitty. It's actually a masterpiece of software engineering, in my opinion. Emulation is simply an inherently serial task: Each step depends entirely on the one immediately before it. Once you get past the obvious (splitting CPU and GPU), more threads CANNOT speed it up. Simple as that.

But my i3-4160 is fast enough to be fullspeed in Dolphin, even in famously heavy games like Metroid Prime. (Tip: Just pin the process to the first and third logical cores to avoid context switching. No need to disable HT entirely.)

>>52372828
You're LITERALLY describing the scenarios where an APU would be better.

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>>52372828
>implying a g3240 isn't enough for most normies who don't game
>implying an athlon 5350 isn't enough
>implying an Intel atom isn't enough

Wew lad

>>52372828
But the G3258 is a bad choice for any of those things, you fucking retard. Why would you pay more for an unlocked chip and a motherboard to overclock it with to go in a HTPC or a Facebook machine? Why would you not buy a Celeron G1820 for half the price?

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>>52372813
What

>>52372866
The point still stands, there are literally no scenarios where a plebtinium would be a better choice.

>>52365728
Would g3258 be good for an htpc mitx build? Its so cheap and I kinda want to build something for our apartment to stream stuff and play ROMs, maybe some other light gaming

>>52372901
Emulation?
Must emulators only use 2 threads, you could use the g3258 to run emulators better than any other budget processor, and it can also handle a bunch of steam games too like magicka 2 or l4d2.

It's a budget processor, it gives amazing ipc for the price but only 2 threads.

You shouldn't be using it for anything overly demanding. It's not a high end gaming processor.

>>52372948
Nah, an a8 apu would be miles better. This is coming from an intel user. Only having 2 threads will cripple many games or they simply won't run at all.

>>52372948
No. It's overkill for HTPC purposes in terms of CPU power, and the iGPU sucks shit for gay men. An APU would be a better choice.

>>52372955
So the only reason to buy a plebtinium is if you're poor, stupid, and play ancient video games all day in your mother's basement? k.

>>52372948
For emulators the g3258 would be better, for everything else an apu would be better.

A8 7600 is the best value processor on the market right now.

>>52372955
What you conveniently forget to mention is that paying a pentium for better single thread performance is a HUGE gamble. You could be able to overclock one to 5ghz or you get one that bursts into flames after 4ghz.

It's simply not a good choice for any scenario.

>>52373028
You are the dumbest inbred piece of shit I have come across in my 2 years here.

If you're not using a 5960x with the maximum supported ram, a 1tb ssd, and sli Titan x your entire argument is invalidated by your mere presence.
Get the fuck out.

>>52373090
Even at 4ghz it's still better than any other choice in that price range if you want emulation.

Dolphin only uses 2 threads, would you recommend an athlon 750k instead?

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>>52373112
did I strike a nerve?

>>52372901
>implying a diet of mealworms and salad isn't enough for most autists
>implying drinking only water isn't enough for most autists
Yet you still eat cheetos and drink mountain dew.

>>52373137
>Dolphin only uses 2 threads, would you recommend an athlon 750k instead?
Well no, AMD cpus have notoriously shit single thread performance.

It's kinda embarrassing how the pentium's only benefit is for emulating super mario sunshine. It's not really a huge benefit you know?

>>52373137
It's a trade-off either way. You're either crippled in emulators or crippled in any modern gayme. Unless literally all you want a PC for is to play old PS2/GameCube/Wii games, the G3258 is always a bad choice.

>>52365942
The Athlon 860K has 4 fully fledged. Fuck off intel shill

>>52373188
>>52372901
In case you're too stupid to understand, just because something barely runs the tasks thrown at it doesn't mean it's a good choice.

It's like Apple and the 1GB of RAM in their iPad Air. "Normies" COULD get by on it, but a lot of the same people also complain that a few too many tabs in Safari cause it to shit itself. However an autist like you would dumb down the argument into some ridiculously simple scenario like a "normie" would only need one tab at a time.

>>52373191
It's a niche market but that's where it's supposed to be used.
You can't buy a pentium and expect it to handle gta v or the witcher 3 with ease. It's for people who need ipc more than threads.

Most games would be better off with the quad core athlon.

Just because it's not good for games doesn't make it useless.

>>52373224
If you wanted good performance you would never willingly go with Pentium of any type.

>>52373226
>It's for people who are earning minimum wage and can't afford an unlocked i5
FTFY

>>52365728
Intel stock coolers are shit. You should have tossed it out the second you saw it.

>>52373275
>he can only afford an i5

Haha fucking poorfag.