How far will i be able to push my g3258 on a stock cooler
Im on 3.8 GHz
Themps are 30 at idle and 60 under load.
Should be able to hit 4.5 fairly easily. You'll probably want to be manually controlling the voltage at that point though, as auto voltage tends to put way more through than necessary, resulting in housefire temperatures and possible damage to your chip.
My G3258 was able to hit 4.8ghz peaking 80 degrees with a 212.
And then, because it's completely fucking useless in 2015 let alone 2016, i sold it and bought an i5.
Don't even bother with it unless you're using a low end GPU and only plan to play older/indie shit.
Feel free to explain ANY other situation this is useful in then, fucktard.
>boring facebook shit
It'll be 100% fine at stock settings
Either need more corez or are GPU accelerated at which point it's fine at stock settings
Or, the -ONLY- reason anybody buys the G3258
>Now go find a thread where people are talking about 980 Tis and complain about the vidya discussion there too
Nice projecting there buddy, just because you do the same with your gamur shit in threads that have nothing to do with it doesn't mean I do the same in their threads.
Or, you could not talk stupid shit.
Fucking OC hobby on the stock cooler are you actually this fucking dumb?
I will tell you exactly why OP made this thread, it's because he bought the G3258 and now in many of his games there's stuttering and general low performance. To try and fix this, he'll overclock it as much as he can.
And then, in a few months, he'll realize how futile this is and sell the CPU to another dumb motherfucker and buy a quad core.
The G3258 is fucking useless at everything it can possibly be used for, and again this is coming from somebody who had a good one. Even at 4.8ghz the gaming experience was absolute shit compared to now with my 4590.
No, the trick is to be able to use your fucking computer for it's purpose.
The G3258 has none. It cannot game in 2016 (GTA V, Far Cry 4, Fallout 4, Cities: Skylines, etc etc), it's a pointless waste of money for pleb shit and if you actually need CPU power for any programs you run, non-retards would buy sandy/ivy-era xeons.
Fucking idiot. What if the purpose of OP's computer is to emulate PCSX2 and that's it? The G3258 is one of the best in the world for PCSX2 emulation especially when you consider the cost.
What if he doesn't care about modern AAA trash and just wants to browse mongolian cartoon boards as quickly as possible?
>paying money for a modded piece of 20 year old hardware
Modern emulation has pretty much surpassed anything the PS2 could do natively. Not to mention the convenience of being able to download isos and play them minutes later. Looks like the only stupid fuck around here is you.
It has its pros and cons
But for a budget build it's a great CPU, you can upgrade later anyway if you want to.
People do say it bottlenecks some later gen gpus, but thats for like triple A games.
Its only 2 cores with no hyper threading, and it's like 3 ghz at stock. But you wanna oc if you want performance
Can't really see other downsides
>cannot game in 2016
runs gta on high settings fine paired with a 750ti
Broken piece of software still playable with medium settings
Its a 50$ processor that runs 2016 games on medium/high settings. If you want to pay 300$ more so you can get ultra high settings and be hurr durr masterrace fuck off to your containment board /v/
G3258 is only useful for dedicated emulation boxes/HTPCs that don't run modern games and aren't needed for productivity. The single-core performance on them once OCd is excellent which makes them good for Dolphin, but the lack of parallelism makes them a very bad choice for current games.
Not him but I'll answer.
i3-4160 + GA-H81M-H: £124.48
G3258 + MSI H97M-E35: £112.93
That's an £11.55 saving for a lot less performance in parallel applications (and also no AVX2 or AES-NI).
Not true except in heavily single threaded workloads that can't use AVX2. One example is Dolphin. Everything else is far more comfortable with an i3. Pic related, G3258@4.4GHz only just matches the stock 4130... and that's in a 2012 game.
Here's another example. Can't find an OC'd comparison but still... ouch.
UK. 120 euro sounds about right for an i3. What's the total cost for you with a cheapo motherboard, and how does it compare to G3258+OC-capable motherboard?
The G3258 is a piece of shit. Daily reminder that /g/ recommended it hard for budget gay men systems only 18 months ago. You guys are retards desu.
>I paid 100 for mine g3258 + oc mobo
Okay well that sounds like a pretty good deal so don't worry about it anon. If it's working well for you, stop dwelling and just go enjoy your games.
That's a pretty good deal 2bh.
I just checked aus prices and there's a 40 dollar difference between the g3258 and the i3 when you factor in the motherboards, whereas just the cpu the difference is around 70 dollars.
Of course another alternative is to get the athlon 5350 and overclock that. You can easily get a 25% overclock and it should be even cheaper than the Pentium without falling behind much in performance. Also the stock cooler is enough for the overclocked athlon, not sure about the pentium though.
He shills them because of the value which is fair. An unlocked a10 apu costs around 100 dollars and outperforms all cpu+gpu combination price-wise.
Also the igpu on those things is actually pretty impressive. The one on the a10 7700k has almost the same performance as an r7 250 (ddr3 version) dgpu.
Not everyone plays shitty unoptimized games like arma 3 so using and apu is a great choice for 1080p gaymen on low settings. You can also use a dedicated gpu later and overclock the apu cpu.
I also agree with him, the pentium processors are solely for plebs. The cheapest i3 is like 100 bucks.
I'm not an AMD shill either, honest. I have an i3 4170 and an r9 270x. But for someone on a really tight budget, an APU is a good choice.
THIS. not all games are unoptimized pieces of shit. Also, all the new vydias coming out work best on 4 threads. I've forced my i5 desktop to only have 2 threads on boot via msconfig and many games either had low frame rates or crashed/did not start at all.
They literally have no use other for highlighting the stupid AND poor. You can get the same plebtinium single thread performance by disabling hyperthreading on an i3 for using shitty emulators. You're also never guaranteed to go past 4.0 ghz on all pentium processors, it's a gamble. To top this all off, most games have problems running on two threads.
Bentium is from spurdo remember?
Are you going to explain what I said was wrong or are you going to meme me to death?
A8 7600 is 40 dollars cheaper than the i3 4170 here, can match it in multicore and has a very decent igpu.
Perfect for a steam machine or budget home computer. Also has fsb overclocking.
I'm not a Pentium fan but to be fair:
>You can get the same plebtinium single thread performance by disabling hyperthreading on an i3
You cannot. A hugely overclocked G3258 will definitely beat out any i3 in a single-thread task, assuming a non-AVX2 load and few background tasks.
Dolphin is not shitty. It's actually a masterpiece of software engineering, in my opinion. Emulation is simply an inherently serial task: Each step depends entirely on the one immediately before it. Once you get past the obvious (splitting CPU and GPU), more threads CANNOT speed it up. Simple as that.
But my i3-4160 is fast enough to be fullspeed in Dolphin, even in famously heavy games like Metroid Prime. (Tip: Just pin the process to the first and third logical cores to avoid context switching. No need to disable HT entirely.)
>implying a g3240 isn't enough for most normies who don't game
>implying an athlon 5350 isn't enough
>implying an Intel atom isn't enough
But the G3258 is a bad choice for any of those things, you fucking retard. Why would you pay more for an unlocked chip and a motherboard to overclock it with to go in a HTPC or a Facebook machine? Why would you not buy a Celeron G1820 for half the price?
Must emulators only use 2 threads, you could use the g3258 to run emulators better than any other budget processor, and it can also handle a bunch of steam games too like magicka 2 or l4d2.
It's a budget processor, it gives amazing ipc for the price but only 2 threads.
You shouldn't be using it for anything overly demanding. It's not a high end gaming processor.
What you conveniently forget to mention is that paying a pentium for better single thread performance is a HUGE gamble. You could be able to overclock one to 5ghz or you get one that bursts into flames after 4ghz.
It's simply not a good choice for any scenario.
You are the dumbest inbred piece of shit I have come across in my 2 years here.
If you're not using a 5960x with the maximum supported ram, a 1tb ssd, and sli Titan x your entire argument is invalidated by your mere presence.
Get the fuck out.
did I strike a nerve?
>Dolphin only uses 2 threads, would you recommend an athlon 750k instead?
Well no, AMD cpus have notoriously shit single thread performance.
It's kinda embarrassing how the pentium's only benefit is for emulating super mario sunshine. It's not really a huge benefit you know?
It's a trade-off either way. You're either crippled in emulators or crippled in any modern gayme. Unless literally all you want a PC for is to play old PS2/GameCube/Wii games, the G3258 is always a bad choice.
In case you're too stupid to understand, just because something barely runs the tasks thrown at it doesn't mean it's a good choice.
It's like Apple and the 1GB of RAM in their iPad Air. "Normies" COULD get by on it, but a lot of the same people also complain that a few too many tabs in Safari cause it to shit itself. However an autist like you would dumb down the argument into some ridiculously simple scenario like a "normie" would only need one tab at a time.
It's a niche market but that's where it's supposed to be used.
You can't buy a pentium and expect it to handle gta v or the witcher 3 with ease. It's for people who need ipc more than threads.
Most games would be better off with the quad core athlon.
Just because it's not good for games doesn't make it useless.