Low tier hardware

>>52316965
any new 60 quid cpu should be grand, what you're talking about is more ram usage, which 4gb should also be grand.

>>52316994
I have 4 gb and it's not getting filled up

It's not unbearable but this pc is really slow overall with this sempron.

What sort of new cpus go for 60 nowadays?

>>52317013
I'm more familiar with intel. Any of the celeron or pentium new ones should be fine.

For any new cpu you'll probably need a new motherboard as well, and depnding on how old your current one is you might need new ram too.

Tbh, you might just be better off doing a 300 quid new build.

>>52317013
Maybe look into an Athlon 5350, or a an Athlon X4 860k.

LGA775 motherboard with a Q6600 (6700).

They are still good processors to today's standards but filthy cheap.

My Athlon 760k does that pretty well. Costs like $70?

>>52317104
My 6 year old laptop is running a t6500 and it would do everything you're talking about easily. It would probably overheat but that's not gonna affect a desktop really.

>>52317071
>>52317088
It's just a side pc for browsing in my familys house, I have a sikk gayming rig otherwise. Just wondering what's the minimum for bearable performance here.

>>52316965
An AM1 system with an Athlon 5350 would easily handle that sort of thing.

>>52316965
Stuck this together in 5 mins out of boredom. Would probably be a bit of overkill for a shitty side pc, but it's sstill cheap. 220 dollars apparently.

Also proably missed something cause i barely paid attention to it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XMymbv

My second oldest computer runs mainly 2008 gear. Everything can be bought as parts for next to nothing, here's what I have:

>Asus P5K LGA775
>Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 (@ 3ghz)
>Samsung DDR2 800mhz 4 x 2gb
>XFX Radeon HD7870
>OCZ Vertex 120gb SSD

It's actually so capable, that it runs Battlefield 4 with medium settings at 30 to 50 fps. It's playable. If my main computer(s) were to fail, I wouldn't have a problem going back to using this old beast. I occasionally use it just because I love how it can do almost everything even though it's mostly 10 years old in a couple of years. It's not just passable, it's fast. Browsing the internet feels exactly the same on it than it does on my new computer, and that's what I pretty much do all of the time. I haven't tried running Skyrim yet, but I bet it's going to play smooth as butter even with some mods.

People are getting rid of old comptuers for next to nothing. A quad core LGA775 based system can probably be bought for even $50 if you are lucky. Without a modern GPU and SSD, but you can get a 7870 and SSD for $100 or less.

>>52317237
Alternative option with SSD, 8GB RAM, SSD and ITX form factor based on AM1 platform:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mRC2XL

Honestly though, for an extra $50 you could get an i3-based system like the ThinkServer TS140 that'd crush anything you could put together yourself for the same money. Those things are a bargain, especially with the cashback offers they regularly run.

Can currently get the one with a Xeon E3-1226 v3 for £225 here in Bongolia at the moment after cashback, which is what the CPU costs by itself.

>>52317104
Just ordered a qx6700 for 20 bucks to upgrade my duel core

i3-6100 should do the trick for awhile. Only $130 and is plenty fast. Excellent single core performance, which is really what matters.

>>52317198
Question, what are you running?

I would say the Athlon 5350 (4 x86 kabini cores @ 2.05 GHz) is the minimum you would need to do some light multi-tasking in 2016. Though an A8-7600 (4 x86 kaveri cores @ 3.1 - 3.8 GHz) would be better if you could afford it since it has about twice the performance so you would have to upgrade later in the long run.

>>52317338

this. also the warm fuzzy feeling that you're saving some trees.

>>52317499
>i3-6100 should do the trick for awhile. Only $130 and is plenty fast. Excellent single core performance, which is really what matters.
Not really unless the only game you play is arma 3.

>>52316994
How fucking British are you

>>52317471
I was gonna go with an SSD too, but i didn't know how much storage would be needed, and 500gb is just safer.

I also never had a problem with big PCs so the ITX doesn't make a difference to me. Never really care for aesthetics but thats just me.

no g3258?

>>52317509
I have several systems. CPUs are a 4790K, Phenom II X3 720, Athlon 5350 and a Core 2 Duo E6700. Honestly, there's pretty much fuck all difference between the 4790K and the C2D for general desktop and shitposting use. But then I don't multitask much beyond having foobar open in the background.

>>52317611
dual-core CPUs with only two threads are garbage especially in 2016. I'd recommend a used i3 over a pentium meme any day.

>>52317676
ive had one for a year before upgrading to i5-4460 AMA

I'm on a celeron 540 single core from 2008 with 2 gig of ram and it's enough for youtube. about 10 tabs, skype and some programming (with server daemons running) and apart from some slight lag in cpu intensive web pages (that demand alot of resources but offer little for it which is another subject) it's pretty good. Go cop a Celeron G1840 which is the cheapest new cpu and is 6 times faster than this single core celeron (therefore more than enough for non-gaming tasks) I have a build on pcpartpicker called the "designated shitposting build" if you want a cheap monitor + keyboard + rig setup.

>>52317510
>Athlon 5350
Wait what socket is that even? Is it older than the sempron 240?

>>52316994
>be grand

Hello fellow irish friend.

>>52317763
AM1. It's a Kabini-based chip released in 2014.

>>52317763
Socket AM1 aka FS1b, AMD's secret bottom-tier stuff

>>52317910
Isn't AM1 really old?

>>52317916
Why secret?

>>52317918
>2014

>>52317763
AM1 from 2014. The 5350 is the top end CPU for that socket too.

OP here, which AM2+ or AM3 cpu fits my purpose? Is phenom ii 955 the minimum?

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>>52317690
>I'm on a celeron 540 single core from 2008 with 2 gig of ram and it's enough for youtube

I really hate it when poor people get through 4chan's spam filter.

There's no way 2gb of ram can handle 10 tabs comfortably, if you define "comfortable" by non-poor standards.

8gb is bare-minimum for great firefox + youtube searching. Browsers take up huge amounts of ram nowadays.

>>52317949
all the OEMs are using Atoms and Celerons, so it's practically undiscovered

whatever operating system you choose probably lists their minimum requirements

The Intel Celeron G1840 is more than enough. It blows any Core 2 Duo/Quad out of the water, and is like $40.

>>52317964
>no way 2gb of ram can handle 10 tabs
maybe if you're a basic bitch who uses windows, yea

>>52317963
X3 720 and unlock the fourth core.

>>52317690
Post link, you faggot

>>52317949
Basically they're laptop grade APUs that nobody talks about. They're really good for the rock bottom prices but they have very little upgradeability. Best you can do is pray to god you can crank the FSB from 100 to 115 mhz and the voltage a little to get your pleb 5350 chuggibg at 2.4 GHz.

it depends on how poorly programmed your software is

businesses don't pay their employees to optimize things when it doesn't matter (a computer from 2016 running software from 2016 being exactly as snappy as a computer from 1996 running software from 2004? consumers don't care.)
but FOSSfags might optimize in the name of autism

>>52317995
>maybe if you're a basic bitch who uses windows, yea

It doesn't matter. Flash is unoptimized as fuck.

You can "relearn" the definition of fast when you're on 2gb (a common technique for poor people), but objectively, it's slow.

>>52317846
Never notice how obvious it is until I read it back. Dia duit mo chara.

>>52318100
>Flash

It's 2016, senpai. Who the fuck still has Flash installed?

>>52317964
browsers take up what's available, 2gb is fine for all of that, my 2gb htpc can handle that no problem as can my main PC with 8gb ram

>>52318134
>>52318108
>poor people still talking to me

I feel like I need to take a shower.

>>52317964
Well I'm sorry you struggle this hard with using computers, no need to be angry about it though, computers are so simple these days that even you might figure'm out.
>>52318060
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4QY6CJ
no storage fgt, get a 2$ usb stick and put chromium os build on it

>>52318164
I have a 4790K, senpai. I'm just not retarded enough to have Flash installed in 2016. Presumably you need to go wash Adobe's cum off your face.

>>52318164
>low-tier hardware thread
>expects not to find poorfags
come on m8

>>52318183
It doesn't matter what you use. HTML5 is also a memory hog. :)

>>52318189
8gb is literally $39.99. dude, how poor are these people?

i could derive an equation but it'd take 20 mins and you'd just say 'well thats like your opinion man' anyway so why bother

>>52318213
HTML5 doesn't need to be updated to close one of its thousands on vulnerabilities on a daily basis, anon.

>>52318213
dunno, maybe they bought $50 PCs from Craigslist?

>>52316965
You've already got an FM2 motherboard so get an A6-6400K or an A10-5800K.

>>52316965
Celeron j1900. It's an embedded board.

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>>52318414
>recommending Bay Trail trash
>ever

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It is also important as many smart anons have pointed out to have enough RAM. 4GB is the minimum you should have for 2016. You can get a single 4GB ddr3 stick for under $20 sometimes.

>>52318414
In that price range I'd get the Athlon 5350, since it's basically on par CPU-wise and GPU-wise it's way more capable.
Also the platform has more expandability options.

>inb4 muh power consumption
Literally a few watts more.

>>52318442
This. You also can't upgrade that celeron meme cpu, which is honestly shit even for light multi-tasking.

>>52318462
Actually, the 5350 shits all over that celery cpu.

>>52318442
>>52318497
>trying this hard to come across as experts online
http://www.positivityblog.com/index.php/2013/09/11/improve-self-esteem/
^ 4u

>>52318527
*cpu wise and gpu wise

>>52318536
ok kid

>>52318536
Why did you quote our beloved anon? He's not a tripcuck like you and me.

>>52317964
>he thinks 10 tabs is a lot
I daily drove a P4 1300 with 1 GB of RDRAM and Win2k through most of 2013 and I had no problem handling 10-30 tab sessions, fuck even my 200 MHz Pentium Pro legacy dev box can handle 3-10 tab shitposting sessions with JS off

If you seriously have difficulty handling such a small amount of tabs on 2 GB then you are tech-retarded and probably don't belong on this board.

>>52318173
How about this one
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6j9qGX
It is 1$ more expensive and it has a pentium g3220

>>52318550
you should try asking yourself if something is true before getting defensive anon, it might do wonders to your fragile insecure ego.
>>52318564
you dont need a trip to be desperate for attention and validation desu

>>52318611
>you dont need a trip to be desperate for attention and validation desu
Maybe. He was right though, bay trail is trash and you know it. Cherry trail on the other hand is pretty based. It's not just the CPU that's garbage on bay trail but the iGPU as well.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pNHvP6

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>>52317338
>A quad core LGA775
>50bucks
lol no, search for core2quad or 4 core xeons prices on ebay or your favourite website

>>52318665
bay trail is trash for video editing and bf4 ultra settings and whatever but tested a celeron 1037U rig myself once, the pages would load fast (albeit with ublock enabled), 1080p playback was smooth etc so for your memebook normie it's quite enough. You need to consider what the user will do on the computer when you decide what will be the best fit for performance / price
>>52318581
Yeah not bad considering for 1$ more you get about 25% more performance overall, but I also saw this embedded celeron 1037U mobo that allowed me to add storage to the build too (cuz the mobo is cheaper):
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cZdjmG

>>52318702
I admire your dedication to budgeting but that dual core APU isn't worth it. Better to get the A8-7600 for $40 more and avoid having to upgrade soon. I mean you're already on the FM2+ platform so you might as well spend a little more for a CPU with better performance than the Athlon 5350.

>>52318773
>tested a celeron 1037U rig myself once
That must have been excruciatingly painful.

>>52318804
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6j9qGX
Indeed, at that point though your almost better buying a pre-made from any of the big names.

>>52318773
You're conveniently forgetting how much bay trail overheats. Cherry trail can sustain burst frequencies for longer.

In all honestly though, nobody should ever consider getting a motherboard with a soldered on bay trail or cherry trail. You can't fucking upgrade the CPU without having to buy another fucking motherboard.

>>52318825
>celeron 1037U
ULV haswell, how would it be painfull?

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>>52318853
>pentium

>>52316965

This computer had a Celeron 740 with a shitty intel integrated motherboard. I replaced the processor with an E8400 and installed an old geforce 8400 I had around. Its quite okay-ish now running Ubuntu since I didnt wanted to spend a Windows licence with it.

>>52318887
>ulv haswell
>celeron
Bruh

>>52317338
I would upgrade to a OC C2Q at least. Or Pentium Dual Core Sandybridge+, especially the Haswell Pentium is a beast.

Tried a 680 with a 3 GHz Phenom II and it bottlenecked hard. Could be the 4 GB DDR2 but I don't think they would impact so hard. The Phenom system also had a 840 SSD (but bottlenecked through PCI gen 1).

>>52318892
>celeron 1037U

>>52318915
Or it could be based on ivy bridge, whatever it is its on 22nm with a 17w TDP. Fucking retards

>>52318945
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-1037U-Notebook-Processor.87692.0.html

Its ivy bridge

>>52318958
I have one in my laptop. It's bearable if you run a minimal install of Debian.

>>52318915
>>52318825
here's your (You)
>>52318865
You shouldn't believe everything you hear on the Internet anon, most of the integrated cpu mobos were around 48 celsius on speedstep mode, and facebook machines don't usually need upgraded for a long time (my 2008 celeron a such case), but to make you feel better about being wrong I gotta say I love x7-8700, such an amazing CPU for the price (35$ says on ARK)

>>52318977
I have a ULV C2D in a convertible tablet that runs linux MINT with no issue, you must be retarded and/or a faggot.

>>52319016
do you usually have emotional breakdowns when you get proven wrong / disageed with? you look very dumb and childish right now

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This was a nice thread until the name/tripfags showed up to get their daily dose of attention.

Ok so if the low tier builds are AM1 and FM2+, which one should I build for my HTPC? I just wanna watch 1080p netflix/youtube and maybe browse chrome a little from my couch. I already have an old wireless mouse and keyboard in storage and a coffee table beside my couch.

>>52319038
>proven wrong
Not**

>>52319047
>name/tripfags
>implying i always use my name

>>52319062
Get a A8-7600 with a mobo where you can configure the TDP

>>52319062
An A4 - A6 build will be more than enough for that especially since a4 4000 shows the same benchmark results as c2d e8400

>>52319047
>4chan must cater to me and only me
Get bent. I don't like the tripfags either but I accept them as a part of 4chan. They've been with use for years and aren't going away. Either filter them or fuck off back to i2p where everyone is truly anony-mooose.

>>52319118
>dual thread cpu
C'mon man, it's 2016. It's time to let dual core CPUs go.

>>52319193
why? it's not like you need anything more for a basic shitbox

>>52319193
>having cores for the sake of having cores

>>52319193
2/10 made me reply
>>52319207
yup

>>52319229
Sorry meant to say dual-thread.

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>>52319168
>I don't like the tripfags either but I accept them as a part of 4chan.

>>52319207
>>52319242
But for the same price you can get an athlon 5150 which has 4 threads. The reason I don't ever think a dual thread cpu is a good idea is because they can't multi-task as well which was something OP wants to do albeit lightly. Sharing 2 threads between multiple applications is a nightmare.

One of those new Pentiums or an AMD 8350 should be fine for daily tasks.

>>52319314
our recommendations have dual physical cores though, if that's what you mean the OP should buy.
>>52319274
Stop lashing out buddy, shit happens, you get beaten in arguments sometimes, move on

>>52319274
Not him but you can accept something you don't like. It's called growing up. Nobody likes having to work for a living but you have to accept it as a part of life.

>>52319266
literally the same thing applies, why do you think you need a quad core for a fucking 10-tab browsing session, a couple chat clients and a shitty 1080p movie? it's not like any of those require a lot of performance

>>52319314
never really had any kind of problem running 20-30 tabs, steam, photoshop spotify and office concurrently on my C2D-based X200

>>52319343
Like I said, I mean dual-thread.

Having two physical cores is cool as long as you get 4 threads (ie i3 cpu). What you cucks are recommending are cpus with dual cores yet only 2 fucking threads. This is not something you want if you plan to multi-task even a little bit. Hell, a 4-thread atom/celeron is still miles better than a pentium for this sole reason.

>>52319365
he said dual-thread you niger

a thread does bot always equate to a physical core

>>52319408
>4-thread atom
Are nothing but junk, any current core-based processor will tear it to shreds.

>>52319408
Once again you are showing that you don't know what you are talking about man, atoms and celerons dont come with hyperthreading, and it's overkill for basic desktop multitasking, I suggest you leave the thread because you make yourself look stupid even further

>>52319471
Not him but are there downsides to using a dual thread pentium meme as opposed to a quad-thread i3? This isn't the first time I've heard people telling others that having 4 threads is better than having 2.

>>52319447
yeah I did the same shit he did in the post I was shitting on originally

don't really think that kills my point though, decent dual-thread, core, whatever chips are still breddy good for that kind of work, at least better than OP's turd

>>52319506
again depends on the use case, a i3 4160 will show clear performance gains over a dual core G3258 for example, but for browsing and 1080p playback will be overkill as HTML parsing and rendering is a breeze, hell an overclocked raspberry pi 2 can do that decently lol

>>52319541
clear performance gains in gaming* fuk

>>52319506
You get labeled as stupid and poor. The cheapest i3 is like 30 dollars more than the best pentium. Having 2 threads does impact the ability to multi-task but not to a noticeable extent to most. It does however cause problem for playing vydias since most expect you to have 4 logical cores out of the box.

>>52319739
I have a feeling the kids who do that are the ones that don't wanna accept they got memed into paying 30$ or more for their 3-tab 1080p animu machines, buyers remorse is a bitch

>>52318752
I got one for 30

>>52317964
You must be in high school or something, i have 2gb ram with windows 8.1,10chrome tabs,an ide with 2projects open and only use 1.4gb. I can have 20chrome before i run out of ram, i could upgrade for $5 to 4gb but it isnt worth my time

>>52319840
1$ more for pentium fag here. I had a similar build for my work pc. It had that same cpu, 4gb ram and a 128 ssd because why not. It was overkill for office work.

These other faggots only think that they need i7 and 980ti because linusShillTips or other faggot says so. For my personal rig, i have an i3 4160 and r9 380 and it runs pretty fine.

>>52320071
>i could upgrade for $5 to 4gb but it isnt worth my time

your time is garbage then :)

>>52318578
>If you seriously have difficulty handling such a small amount of tabs on 2 GB then you are tech-retarded and probably don't belong on this board.

I don't care about what you can "technically" handle, nerd. I'm talking about 10-30 tabs comfortably with youtube in the background. That's impossible on 1gb of ram, unless you have a really poor definition of "comfortable".

>>52316965
1. Buy a used or surplus office tower for $50-$100.
2. Drop in a better video card and more RAM.

You're gold!

>>52321456
here's that (You) you asked for family, you almost got me but you meme'd a little too well in the middle

>>52321553
http://www.microcenter.com/product/449581/Optiplex_780_DDR3_Windows_7_Professional_Desktop_Computer_Refurbished

there u go.

Add $50 (SSD) + $40 (GT 610) + $40 (8gb kit). Ultimate browsing computer at sub-$200.

>>52321614
why would he even need a GPU?

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I have dual xeon x5365s (quad cores) at 3ghz with 32gb ddr2

not the fastest but it does photoshop and stuff just fine

>>52321633

Any gpu will take the load of the shared system memory. You will also have less strain on the CPU which means faster browsing.

Not required, but a nice perk.

>>52321456
you're still trying? lol man, take a loss like a man and move on

>>52321347
to me it seems more like a case of people having little knowledge about hardware requirements but still want to have an opinion to not face how ignorant they are, i almost wish smartphones didn't exist so mcdonalds employees / school kids couldnt come here anymore

>>52321849
>People having little knowledge about hardware requirements

No, you dirty refugee.

It's grasshopper/ant philosophy. The i7/980ti guys are the "ant". They want to build big and store for several winters. You are the grasshopper, who builds flimsy structures that need to be repaired every 2 years. NOTHING to be proud of.

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>>52321849
Man stop being so smug, it's bad for your health you know. Yeah most of us know jack shit about the hardware we use but that doesn't mean that we have to follow some arbitrary guideline that you set.

Maybe some people can make due with a celery cpu, maybe some people need an i3. The best thing you can do is recommend someone something a little bit overkill but not batshit expensive for their needs so that they won't have to upgrade in 1-2 years.

You see, you're fucked either way. Either you get some low end hardware now and upgrade every 1-2 years or you pay top dollar for something that will last you 4-8 years. Think about that.

>>52322029
>taking internet arguments this seriously
get a life bro

>>52322029
This guy gets its.

>>52322050
>stop being smug
alright bro, I'll stop showing off my self-confidence until you get some too

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>>52322061
>gets into argument
>clearly beaten
>engages maximum damage control
>le get le life bro
ayyy lmao

>>52317104
>Q6600

Is it a good upgrade from an old Core Duo? Does it have good internal graphics?

I don't have a GPU right now...

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>>52322102
>being this cocky
I hope you're just bored and not like this in real life.

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>>52322103
>"Hey guys, I won an internet argument!"

Legitimately feel sorry for you man.

>>52322109
get an fm2+ build if you don't care about vydias that much.

>>52318455
>4GB is the minimum you should have for 2016

8GB is the bare minimum you should have in 2016. It's 30 dollars for 2x4GB kit. It's just not practical to give yourself that low a ceiling. 4GB is usable, but very restrictive.

>>52322131
My pride is way more bigger and thicker IRL ;)
>>52322155
real nigga

>>52317964
>There's no way 2gb of ram can handle 10 tabs comfortably

>128 mb IGP
>old intel dual core GPU
>less than 1 GB of RAM
>no problems with browsing the web (7 4chan tabs, a blog, a youtube video, an online shopping site, and a banking site)
>listening to FLAC music
>have skype running in the background

Have you ever tried turning off your fucking antivirus and using common sense instead?

For the record, I'm on XP and
>use chromium (no site is broken)
>flash for games and porn

>>52318164
I want to fucking slap your bitch ass. You can't learn how to computer if you always have the best PC. It takes an old PC to force you to learn.

>>52317990
>not socket 775

fuck

>>52322160
will Zen support FM2+, too? I might end up building a PC with a cheap Zen cpu.

>>52322182
True. I mean if you can't afford that 8gb ram kit then you shouldn't even be getting a computer. You're obviously really poor and need to buy more groceries instead or saving up for emergencies.

Kinda crazy how ram prices have dropped. I remember at once point an 8gb ddr3 ram kit was like $160. The media told us it was due to factory fires but I get the feeling it had to do with greedy jews.

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>>52322029
>future proofing
Literally the dumbest fucking meme in computing, but I guess I shouldn't expect much from a gamertard who, like the ants in his analogy, is a dumb sheep incapable of thinking on his own.

I guess you'll at least get some enjoyment out of masturbating to how bleeding edge your crusty old shitbox used to be in the coming years when even a cheap walmart box will comfortably out-perform it with half the power consumption and a far more modern feature set.

>>52322280
Probably not. I'm waiting for zen too but I just want i7-5960x multi core performance on the cheap. Hoping the 8-core zen will be around $400.

>>52322412
Not him but I'm still chugging my i7-2700K at 4.4 GHz you shitbird. I won't be upgrading even when kabby lake or cannon lake arrives.

Shit, I'll probably die before there is a better cpu worth upgrading to.

>>52322487
But I doubt you're still using a 580 or whatever.

I have a 2500k and while hyperthreading would be nice, it certainly isn't vital. Even a sandy bridge i3 would probably hold up alright.

Point is, buying the best doesn't really mean you're going to get more for your money than buying lower end stuff more frequently.

I would rather buy a 300 dollar graphics card every 2 years than buy a 600 dollar graphics card every 4 years.

>>52322487
I'm literally moving back an architecture, from an entry-level single socket nehalem workstation to a high-end core 2 workstation, but like >>52322600 implied, CPUs don't really age like shit like say a graphics card will. And "future proofing" in itself is a misnomer, especially right now when we're on the cusp of all kinds of retarded new interfaces like USB-C that a bleeding edge system right now will need to rely on expansion cards to support in the future, not to mention power consumption adding on to what you've already paid for it.

I'm not at all shitting on buying something high-end, mind you, in fact I usually almost always buy used high-end gear over retail mid-range gear, but I'm shitting on the idea of buying something incredibly overkill for your use case in pursuit of some nebulous "future proof" system when you can simply buy according to your needs and upgrade as they require you to.

>>52316965
Sempron is pretty shit tier, have you tried upgrading to a phenom on the same socket?

My 2¢ in the matter:

Any mainstream desktop or laptop dual-core from the last 10 years is perfectly adequate for everyday internet usage. I'm currently using a dual core Sandy Bridge mobile Pentium and there are no noticeable stalls anywhere on the web. It stalls only when viewing multiple heavily enhanced video streams in CPU-intensive formats like VP9 but even then only at 1080p or larger with 60FPS.

On the other hand, a dual core Atom chip that is one year older struggles to do anything, even 720p video rendering. Windows 7 on these chips is borderline unusable.

So, my usability borderline would be:
Core2 Era Pentiums and above. Never ever touch an Atom, regardless what year's made, and I have no experience with Celerons or AMD chips.

>>52316965
Athlon 5350...cost me 30 bucks... Awesome. Overclocked to fuck and back...can game. Be envious.

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>>52324453
I am jealous.
I already have an i5 2400 but I'm curious about the athlon, but too much of a poorfag to justify it when I already have 2 laptops and a gaming desktop.

What overclock, what gpu, and what games?