Why is ONLINE harassment being taken seriously again? Fucking imaginary harassment is a real problem? Someone saying something mean on the internet should not have any impact on your life. If that actually bothers you there is something wrong with you and nobody else. If you dont like it you can just quit your fucking browser. Like seriously nigger, close your eyes and the harassment is gone.
>>52307207 Just log off or open a new tab or scroll past the harassment or exit out of your browser or hit the power button or close your fucking eyes. It's so easy to ignore online harassment I don't understand how this is an issue.
>>52313857 That cis-baby doesn't even know that rape is an expression of POWER, so unprivileged people such as minorities and women cannot rape because they do not societal power and come from a position of weakness. Heh, get educated shitlords.
There's a difference between getting "cyber bullied" by anonymous people that you don't know, and getting cyber bullied by people you ACTUALLY know on Facebook, for other people you ACTUALLY know to see..
>>52313979 Exactly! Rape has NOTHING to do with sex! As long as you have power, you rape everything un-previleged all around you! This is why it makes me SICK when a rapist is acquitted! I LITERALLY DON'T CARE about the evidence! It is 2016, how can people not realize taht ALL MAN CONSTANTLY RAPE?!
Sex, which is therefore always rape, even when the women was forced into consenting, because that is what the patriarchal system has implanted into her very being. Except when the woman is a beautiful curvy goddess, in that case, it would be rape NOT to have sex with her because that would be oppressing her with your masculine thin privilege bullshit standards of beauty that are the cause of billions of girls starving to death every year!
>>52313998 I guess. Being made fun of by kids at school and then coming home and doing it online is pretty similar and pretty shitty. Not that you can't ignore it online, but at least there's something to it.
But random people don't have it out for you really. You can just shrug it off and move on if they call you faggot.
This is what happens when you make something open to everybody.
Now instead of the seperate kind of socialization that the Internet was sectioned off as by it's users pre web2.0 is fading away as it gets absorbed by the general public who just view it as another public forum.
This results in the distinct etiquette that existed in the wild west of web 1.0 and pre-web is getting washed out in favor of the general social ettiquette that people abide by in their day to days lives.
Corporations seeking to make computers user friendly to increase target market sizes are to blame. Capitalism is the root of all evil. Burn the institution down.
Gentrification is to blame. Mid-west moms and paper-skinned 20 something losers now make up a majority of userbase of the internet and as such the temperature of behavior is simmering down to lukewarm.
>>52311832 >Why is ONLINE harassment being taken seriously again? Fucking imaginary harassment is a real problem? You know you're posting on a moderated board, right? Note how you're not even being harassed and you're complaining. "They're talking about something I don't agree with? THIS MUST END NOW!" Why haven't you turned off your computer if this is triggering you?
>>52315744 I'm even starting to question myself, if I'm just crazy for wanting a free (as in freedom) and unthrottled internet for everybody or if it's everyone else who wants to censor it who are in the right and I'm just a bad person.
>>52307207 >and it's even worse for women and minorities Why do they even bother calling them minorities anymore when they really just mean non-whites? And they do realize that whites are actually a minority on the internet, right?
>>52316684 Yet you're in here pretending their "pretending it's a legitimate issue" is a legitimate issue. So what if they moderate you? If you feel bullied by it, you can just turn off your computer. There's no such thing as cyberbullying.
>>52316716 But everyone get's "harassed", the difference is most of us deal with it, the people who make a big deal out of being "harassed" online shouldn't be taken seriously because they're either pushing a shit agenda or are begging for attention
>>52316900 >I guess You're not very good at that. You're ignorant as to the scope of your ignorance. You're drawing conclusions from within your ignorance as though you've encompassed the whole, and the process is not very interesting to watch from here.
>it's hard for her to figure out how to block people >we've had a giant centralized source of information for 17 years >she still doesn't know how to ask it a simple question like "how to block on twitter" >she works in tech FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
>hire men and women in tech equally >women stop wanting to be involved in tech eventually >suddenly they start noticing there's money to be made >they want back in >hire them on in bullshit feel good positions because they still have no real interest in tech >they start making up issues because they have nothing to do >they make it a crime to fire them what do
>>52316768 Please anon don't pull this shit on me the only reason anyone is in this thread is to circlejerk over the fact that we find the idea of being abused online hilarious and the idea of moderating that abuse even more gutwrenchingly ironic
>>52322279 >Not him but people didn't have gangs of neo-reactionary neckbeards following them around online decades ago, though. In case you didn't notice, these sorts of demonstrations against harassment just irritate those gangs even more.
If the goal is to stop harrassment against feminists, telling these people how much feminists are winning is the exact opposite way to go about it.
>>52311832 because people don't want us to speak against feminism and the toxicity it bring to society. Anita Sarkeesian was at the UN for the same reason to try to eliminate freedom of speech. Women are afraid of men coming together on the internet to discuss female nature and the power they hold in society. they want us to think they are the real victims in society.
>>52307207 Honestly I can't make myself care about this. At the end of the day they can't stop anyone from being an asshole on the internet. A internet troll is a lot like North Korea, no matter how much you try they are still gonna swing their dicks at you and launch their shitty missiles. This is a publicity stunt aimed at tublrinas and nothing more.
you know, I'm not on their side, but it seems that you do not get the consecuences, when you get bullied at school, it stays in school, sure you can't ignore it, because maybe they beat the crap out of you, but online harassment is way worse, once it's out there, it's out there forever, imagine you get beaten to a pulp and called a faggot for nothing, someone uploads a video of it, sure, you can ignore it, but somewhere someone it's mocking you, everytime they want to see the video, they can, people look you up and that's what they see...
>>52322661 >imagine you get beaten to a pulp and called a faggot for nothing we're talking about censoring people who disagree with feminist opinions. In that case its freakin harassment. If some bimbo gets a message "ur stoopid" that is not a good reason to censor the internet, but that is exaclt what these she-whales want.
>>52322661 That's true but it's impossible to stop imagery taken of you from going onto the net as soon as it's been taken by someone else. You already lost. You can try not to be present on social media, which you shouldn't be anyway, and people can't send you "i haet U >:-(" messages. The only thing you can do is try to get videos taken down by whatever the host is (Ooops, sorry need a facebook account for that :^)). These people (the niggers that want to fight online harassment) want to censor online posts etc. which is completely retarded. First off, the root cause of these problems is retarded parents and retarded kids + possibly a retarded victim. This is the only thing that actually needs combatting. Every thing that follows as online policing is hopeless damage control. Don't get video/photos taken of you from people that could fuck with you. Don't get beat up (who lives in ghettos?). Just don't give a shit if someone talks shit about you on the net. If people want to talk shit about you, they will. Whether you try to police their online posts or not.
>>52322598 That's because you're reading strawman from neo-reactionary sources. >>52322591 It's a good thing they're partnered (because Intel is not full of autistic neckbeards who argue on the internet all day), and no they're not going to "take your freedom of speech". That's Fox News-tier stupidity.
>>52322851 It's never smart to expose yourself willingly online with your real identity because of obvious reasons. Trying to control the flow of information on the internet is futile. Removing a post from someone that actually wanted to kill you will not lessen the danger anyway. It's only about making people feel nice in a cess pool. Completely insane. 7 billion people could opine on your public post and these people somehow expect that they can receive anything but pure shit sprayed at their face.
>>52322851 legitimate death threats are already illegal. you can go to the FBI as you should so you are safe if this happens. These dumb bitches aren't getting death threats, they're getting triggering disagreements.
>>52323014 I'm commenting on your answer to the poster you replied to. Which connection do you not see?
>Not GP, but oh come on. >You know full well that women very often receive systematic harassment and even death threats for posting completely benign things.
Is "the online threats are more serious than 'ur stoopid'" the only thing you're implying with this sentence?
I commented on how any censorship measure is completely futile if one actually considers how people could protect themselves online if they wanted. Do you not see what I mean?
>Hell, it seems like everybody gets death threats for something or other online. I guess there's some subset of Internet users who think that's high comedy.
That's true everyone is being shit on on the internet. Everyone just deals with it. Whether people find it funny or not is no relevant, right? The fact that it's words that no one has to read, is what differentiates it from physical violence, which is the important thing.
Are you trying to make online harassment look more serious or what?
>>52323052 A neo-reactionary is basically your typical racist/sexist neckbeard who constantly complains about how he's oppressed by women, minorities, gays, and jews. He gets triggered over diversity initiatives and feminism. >>52323065 Fascist and neo-reactionaries are usually both racist but aren't mutually exclusive. Stormfront is full of fascists (neo-nazis) who want to completely and entirely do away with concepts like democracy and justice for all. /pol/ has a lot of them too but probably not as much.
I blame half of this cyberbullying """"epidemic"""" on media and social networking companies that encourage people to post their real identity for every wackjob and maniac to see. I mean you wouldn't scrawl your address or headshot in a bathroom wall, so why do the same on the interbutts?
>>52322969 >>52323068 When I was 16, I used to take the piss out off conservative people online too with my progressive ideas. I thought they were legitimate uneducated assholes.
Then I grew up and I began to understand them. I tried to have empathy for people who don't have the same mindset as I did. Instead of blindly believing a specific doctrine, I began looking for compromise. I discovered both sides bring up very good points that need consideration.
I hope that the same thing will happen to you one day. You don't convince other people by insulting them. You try to understand them and explain why you feel some things need to change.
>>52323141 >A neo-reactionary is basically your typical racist/sexist neckbeard who constantly complains about how he's oppressed by women, minorities, gays, and jews. He gets triggered over diversity initiatives and feminism.
So it's not an actual political movement, just some vague label for people who disagree with a sub-category of left-wing social initiatives.
>>52323168 Yes I do. >"Neoreactionary" is a term applied to, and sometimes a self-description of, an informal group of online political theorists who have been active since the 2000s. The phrase "neo-reactionary" was coined by "Mencius Moldbug" (the pseudonym of Curtis Yarvin, a computer programmer) in 2008. Arnold Kling used it in 2010 to describe "Moldbug" and the subculture quickly adopted it. Proponents of the "Neo-Reactionary" movement (also called the "Dark Enlightenment" movement) include philosopher Nick Land, among others. The movement's objectives included opposition to any form of egalitarianism as well as "a return to traditional gender roles, monarchism, and typically a more libertarian-oriented economic system".
Emphasis on "dark enlightment". That's /pol/ and "manosphere" nerd shit. Basically racist sexist neckbeards with a victim complex. >>52323176 Reactionary is standard political discourse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
>>52307207 >online harrassment and abuse LITERALLY JUST WALK AWAY FROM YOUR COMPUTER IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT YOU DUMB FUCKS!
I called a girl a bitch in the fifth grade and she punched me in the nose. I miss those times. Now it's just a bunch of fucking babies crying out over the internet. Fuck them. Fuck this. Fuck the 21st century.
>>52323232 It has nothing to do with if you agree or disagree with the person. A reactionary in pure form is a traditionalist who wants a return to the status quo. This has been political discourse since the french revolution.
>>52323206 It isn't really that they're more likely to be stupid, it's that they are more likely to have less education which is usually the case in lower income area. Lower income areas where these people actually mix with other races. An upper middle class white guy who grows up in a white town in Massachusetts and only really interacts with other races when his parents send him off to college is less likely to be prejudiced. He's also less likely to have a negative view of lions than an African villager would.
>>52323342 They are more likely to be stupid though. It has to do with the ideology. Socially conservative ideologies which generally stress hierarchy and resistance to change are more likely to appeal to simpletons and stupid people.
This is the same reason the scientific reality of climate change deeply scares Fox News watcher.
>An upper middle class white guy who grows up in a white town in Massachusetts and only really interacts with other races when his parents send him off to college is less likely to be prejudiced.
Perhaps. At the same time though people with black (or [internet ethnicity]) friends are less likely to be racists. There are plenty of racists who have never had meaningful interactions with people of different races, and draw conclusions based on harmful internet stereotypes that paint everyone in a bad light and use two dimensional reasoning. This is why well-traveled people tend to be comparatively sympathetic, open-minded, and accepting.
>Soon you will no longer be able to profess opinions contrary to those of the political left on the internet without legal persecution I tire of this world. I try to escape from the reality of the evolving leftist social totalitarian-ship, but there is no where left to go.
>>52323250 "the jew be a sneaky nigga, he twist yo words, tryin ta throw a brotha off course with implyicatins so he don't know da tru thangs" - A-Dawg
>>52323206 You have to consider how culture and higher education are linked
Facts are taught alongside unproven ideologies all the time, and neither IQ tests nor SAT scores measure your ability to resist social pressure and think critically instead of accepting the current "just so" morals.
Imagine 20th century germans publishing a "study" that "proved" that handsome, well-educated men hated jews to the core and that smelly, dumb, ugly farmers were more likely to tolerate them. so clearly, if you want to be among geniuses, you should hate jews.
You should ignore anything that states correlations. They're fucking meaningless. They're propaganda. They're advisory tools and the foundations of weak and pointless prejudice.
And they're 99% of an american debate on social issues.
>>52307207 >mfw Intel spent $300 million on #gamergate and is still spending more >mfw Intel spent $300m+ on a 4chan and Reddit meme If you are still planning on buying an Intel CPU, how about just getting a gun and shoot yourselves instead?
>>52323442 Don't know about Somali, but my friend is a biology professor who did many years of travel in Kenya for scientific research. Doesn't have a racist bone in her.
Well-traveled people just tend to be more open-minded and sympathetic. It's a part of the growing process when you meet people and stop thinking of them are numbers or stats. All of those travel vloggers on Youtube are basically the most positive people you'll ever observe. Nobody ever says "man I traveled to Taiwan, Malaysia, Korea, Brazil, and France and now I really hate everything".
>>52323510 Does she support unlimited immigration from 3rd world countries. If not she's a evil racist.
>"man I traveled to Taiwan, Malaysia, Korea, Brazil, and France and now I really hate everything". They should have experienced how shithole-y countries can get. "No sanitation in this country? I really like that. Wouldn't mind if my country was at the same developmental stage."
>>52323411 I'm well traveled and I think that every african that doesn't have a street address needs to be shot and burned for fuel.
>>52323554 Your race didn't even have writing until superior conquerors decided to instill the spirit of subjugation into a few of you. Only then did civilization expand, bringing knowledge for those who could use it and starvation for those who could not.
And even then, many of you thought proper sewers were "shit" instead of "the shit" for thousands of years, despite your former superiors having some pretty nice shit transport.
>>52323510 >Kenya >In 2006, UNICEF estimated that up to 30% of girls in the coastal areas of Malindi, Mombasa, Kilifi, and Diani were subject to prostitution. Most of the prostitutes in Kenya are aged 9–18.
>>52323471 Scientists are liberal on upwards of 70%. This is because science constantly involves questioning things.
Not all stupid people are conservatives, but conservatives are more likely to be simpletons. It's just how the brain works. Ideologies that express hierarchy and resistance to change are more likely to appeal to simpletons. On a fundamental level liberal ideology is about challenging the status quo and thinking about how things could be while conservative ideologies are about liking things the way they are. Stupid people don't think much, so they tend to find comfort in the "simple way of life" and don't want to theorize or idealize.
>Imagine 20th century germans publishing a "study" that "proved" that handsome, well-educated men hated jews
If you could prove it from a scientific basis then yes, otherwise this is not a parallel.
Harassement is hundreds of people spamming "kill yourself, you are worthless" every day and try to make pictures of you with photoshop that get uploaded somewhere and stay there for everyone to see forever. People following in different websites and then spamming all your posts in every thread, that sure is harassment too.
Anything else... nah, I don't know any good examples. Maybe people trying to slow down your internet by ddosing it... I don't know.
>>52323675 >I used to think Anita Sarkeesian was some kind of villain until I realized that most of the stuff about her floating around is actually fake. Fake as when she got death threats that she had to report to the police and then flee her home?
>>52323700 >>52323708 Fake as in most of the images and quotes attributed to her are fabrications by people who dedicate their lives to following her around 24/7. All she does is run a relatively tame video series about tropes. That's it. She's allowed to have an opinion too. You can disagree with her on individual points, but she's never inflammatory and usually narrates in a calm collected and relatively rational manner. She doesn't dye her hair (which isn't a bad trait in itself, but sometimes people associate this with immaturity), she doesn't call people names, she doesn't do any of that.
>>52323688 >Does traveling to libya count? I highly doubt you've ever left your own country.
>The tribal setting harbors inferior bloodlines. Every single gene of worth has already left for civilization. This statement includes certain rural communities in other countries. The black and white thinking you're employing is a sign of low intelligence, you know. It depends on how you define "tribal". The guy who invented the method that taught me fluent Japanese is a Kenyan man who described his childhood as "running up grassy hills to fetch baskets of fresh vegetables". I don't know if he was born outside of a city but that sounds relatively rural to me. Especially for an African. I think he did a portion of his highschool in the UK, and then got his bachelors of Computer Science in the US, and then eventually moved to Japan where he started the project that I learned about him at. So you can say this person is tribal but he's also one of the smartest people I've observed.
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