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Previous thread: >>52266602

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

New 2016 ThinkPads announced:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9889/lenovo-refreshes-thinkpad-lineup-at-ces
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/01/big-ram-laptops-are-abundant-as-lenovo-does-its-skylake-refresh/
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f

ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
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>running an x61 with #++
feels pretty comfy senpai
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My memepad just arrived c: making my mint install disk. somehow this x200 looks brand new.
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Well they >>52297822
Thinkpad t530 for 300 euro or Thinkpad t540p for 400 euro. The t540p is in new state. I only play games like civ. Both have Webcam, 8gb ram, SSD etc. They not stolen. How much I get from 4th gen? And can I play civ on 3th gen?
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>>52297894
I actually did not mean to reply Sorry
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Anybody have any good IBM/Lenovo/Thinkpad wallpapers?
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>>52297822
samefag here. with any luck i can think of a hostname before the end of the week
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>>52298030
Just use "the" without the quotes

On another note, how hard is it to upgrade the 768p to 900p?
Is it just a matter of replacing the LCD cable and screen?
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What are the best youtube channels to watch for thinkpad content?
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Suck my fuckin dick
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>>52298147
Woops didn't mean to reply
>>>>>>/b/>>52298147
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>>52298117
sauceyjames :P

I will need to post some reviews/farewells for my W700ds and X1C3.
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>>52298604
you need a less terrible font for your thumbnails. just sayin
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I'm either getting a T430s or a T460p.. I can't decide. You think it's worth getting a T460p? I would very much like to have that Quad CPU
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>>52298627
They are meant to be annoying.

>>52298668
The performance/efficiency lost from buying a T430s could be worth it for upgrades/swag you could have for it.

I haven't touched any of the T series since the broadwell refresh, would like to try sometime.
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>>52298696
>The performance/efficiency lost from buying a T430s could be worth it for upgrades/swag you could have for it.
that's true because I know the t460p will be expensive as hell, especially since I live in Germany. I would have at least to pay 1400€ or something. Can get an i7 t430s for about 450€..
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Is $150 a good price for an x220 with an i7 and 8 gigs of ram?
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>>52298817
I'd say so, I paid that much for one with less spec and sold it for $230.

>>52298737
Yup, but at least you will have a warranty on the T460p, T430s might have its warranty running out, then again the T430s isn't too difficult to maintain.
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>>52298817
I would buy it. Normally they aren't less than $180
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Can anyone identify this thinkpad? Guy's selling it for $120.
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Sorry to betray you all but I got myself the HP Probook 2560p today for $230 AU. I couldn't find a X220 in my budget and this one was in fairly good condition with 6GB RAM and a 500GB SSHD. Did I do ok?
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>>52299053
Not a x,t, or w thinkpad for sure. Pass on that anon.
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>>52299139
thought so. thanks mang
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>>52297713
I already have a mid 2014 macbook pro 13 inch and a laptop with a i7 3630qm with an oced gt650m, but I am thinking about getting a x220 to mess with linux on? Is it a waste of money or are there advantages to getting one?
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>>52299053
Looks like an L4/510 or so.
Speakers have a faulty design on that hinge, they will go out, avoid, I had an SL400 to work on and it was consumer trash.
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>>52299053
looks like an L412 to me
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>>52299053
Looks like an SL410.
Cheap model, not very great. Consumer trash like >>52299203 said, it's basically an Ideapad in Thinkpad clothes.

I used to have an SL510, and they're decent machines I guess, but nothing compared to T/X/W series Thinkpads. If you can get it down to maybe 60 USD or less it might be okay, but 120 is way overpriced.
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>>52297915
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>>52299259
This wallpaper triggers my autism.
>Thinkpad logo not properly positioned
>Darker shade of grey inside the letters
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>>52299272
the letter K also has weird vectoring
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>>52299259
here you go anon
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>>52299345
Not to mention the compression fuckup on the red dot above the I.
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>>52299366
>>52299345
>>52299272

I don't see you fixing it or posting better versions. Fuck you, you ungrateful pieces of shit.

If I could, I would take the 9-cell out of my t410 and smack you in the teeth. Then I'll take each cell and sodomize your mothers.
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>>52297757
>not archbang
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>>52299448
>Posts trash tier wallpaper
>Complains when people point out why it's shit
Maybe you shouldn't post shit, senpai
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>>52299477

Post a god-tier one. Do it. I'm not your sempai.

Let's see your "topkek" wallpaper.
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>>52297915
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>>52297915
I used to have this in a larger resolution but idk where it went
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>>52297915
had this on my x220 for a while
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>>52297713
I have 6 x200s that I got free from a company that didn't want them anymore. Are they worth selling? One has a fucked up screen though.
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>>52299583
Make a private listing on ebay and post it here so we can buy it anon.
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Shit guys, I'm so close to being able to afford a T430s in my area, but I had some unexpected costs come up and I would be absolutely grateful if some kind anons could help out in any way possible. Please help my memepad dreams come true.

Paypal.me/BMCJ
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>>52299689
if you wanted a thinkpad that wasn't trash maybe people would help you
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>order T420
>a week and a half later, it finally gets to my city
>delayed for a day due to road shit
>next day, they give my package to some random guy

I just want thinkpad.
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>>52299259
>>52299535
>>52299553
>>52299572
Thanks, I've been using pic related but that lower gradient triggers my autism
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Post what thinkpad you have and what distro

>T440p
>Arch Linux
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>>52299771
X220
Fedora 23
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>>52299792
Nice, I'm assuming you're using Gnome?
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>>52299771
>T440p
pretty jelly desu
what kind of battery life do you get? do you have a 9 cell?
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>>52299756
>>52299352
I don't get any thanks?
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>>52299805
Cinnamon actually. This spin:
https://spins.fedoraproject.org/cinnamon/
Works really well with up to date drivers and graphics stacks as well.
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>>52299854
lol thanks anon, bonus points for making it w/ trackpoint.
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How do I get my ram to run at full 1600MHz speed instead of 1333MHz on my T420?
Or is it just not possible?
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>>52299514
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>>52299923
quadcore i7 chip + downgrade to 1.37 bios?
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My State is having a surplus sale tomorrow. They have a bunch of T510 models for $200. How many should I buy for you guys?
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The X1 Yoga's keyboard recedes when you fold it.

https://youtu.be/9ON3ogxzHT0?t=1m17s
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>>52299771
x200
mint

Just got it today. ricing is hard.
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>>52299710
Get that refund from the city
>sell monitor to dude on eBay
>it goes missing
>ask about how or why, check google maps satellite view, ask them which house is theirs and the color
>they say i dont know
>i dont know???
>the buyer bought a screen for someone else
>expects us do give them a refund for FedEx's part
>felt that they fucked up on shipping or their customer are sacs of shit
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>>52299951

You actually did it. I tip my hat to you, kekman. I will allow you to call me sensei or whatever you want.
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>>52299771
>T520
>Xubuntu 15.10
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>>52300381
>the first gen Yoga did this as well
So what else is new ?
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My "like-new" x200 just arrived.

The lid hinge doesn't seem particularly strong. It slams shut at about >15 degrees and has about 1/16 inch "deadzone" where the lid flaps about and doesn't stay shut.

Is this normal for an x220? If not, is there a way to strengthen the springs or whatever else?
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>>52301040
Take the hinges out and squeeze them together with pliers or just replace them.
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who the fug won the x200 over me for a buck.
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>>52301265
21 feedback guy?
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My crappy chink 1080p monitor died after 2 years and pretty minimal usage, so I dug out the ol' Viewsonic P815. I feel like the W520 was born to drive this thing.
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>>52301341
yeah you bastard, ended up getting a dockless one.

i-i just wanted a x200 to libreboot for myself.
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>>52301361
whats the res on that?
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>>52301697
On the W520? The usual 1920x1080.

On the P815? It depends. It can do 1800x1440 @ 75 Hz, but I've got it running 1600x1200 @ 95 Hz for muh flicker-free.
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>>52297713
where's dah best place to pick up inexpensive ram for muh x200?
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>>52302111
Buy used kits on ebay, i got my 2x4gb for $25 burgerbux.
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>>52302154
okay thank u desu
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Just got an x100e for free. Gonna slap ssd and arch/vim on it to take notes in class.

What is the best battery that they can be used with? (Longest life)
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Would a x60s be fine for watching 720p anime and word processing?
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>>52299583
Yes. Could you email me at [email protected], I would actually buy the lot.
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New to thinkpad laptops. What can the expansion ports and slots be used for?
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In our current class at comm school we're using thinkpads to interact with and control these things
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>>52302293
~2.5 hours on a 6 cell. Slow as shit too with it's single core amd cpu.
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>>52302948
Depends on which ones
mSATA -> mSATA SSD
Expresscard - things like IC card readers, external graphics cards and USB 3.0 ports
As for the internal slots like the mPCIe -> there's a whitelist for wireless cards et al so you're kinda restricted on that unless you're willing to use a BIOS mod if available
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>>52299259
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>>52299811
With linux like 3 hours
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My elitebook got mouthwash on it coming back from a trip during new years. Mouthwash is really really bad for ciruits. Took it all apart, cleaned everything, put back together with new thermal. Tried to start, and just crap. Salvaged the undamaged parts. Anyway so I was in the market for a new laptop, and today I picked this guy up for 1,100usd. Did I do good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh8XpucnGgY
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>>52303075
Livable I guess, linux+ssd+low brightness should help a tiny bit. Thanks for the reply man.
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>>52303352
no
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>>52303352
>1.1k
dear god i hope you're kidding man
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>>52297915
You're welcome
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>>52303779
>>52303802

What's the cheaper option for the spec's then? I'm loving the 4k touch screen, my friend has one on his hp and it works great for Traktor instead of using a mouse while mixing. I can send this fucker right back tomorrow np. Also I plan on ripping the seashit out of it and putting in another ssd. I have a few laying around.
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>>52303937
>i, i, i am thanks your too
>crabwalks out
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>>52303956
>I'm loving the touch screen
abandoning thread, you cannot be helped
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>>52303959
W-what the fuck did I just read
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Pretty excited for the t460s. Gonna get the dedicated gpu version.
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>>52303972

>For Traktor

Pic related.
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>>52304066
>blurry picture
>terrible decoration
>that fucking lamp
>michael jackson
its like you actually want to end up committing suicide
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>>52304016
enjoy your overheating
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I'm running xubuntu on a shitty samsung chromebook series 3 that is falling apart but runs decently still. I barely have enough money for a used x230 like ive been hoping to get, all my moneys going to classes.

Everyones going to think I'm a joke with my old chromebook and it's 1/5 dead pixel screen.
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>>52304164

Seriously senpai, It's my fucking spare bedroom I use as a man cave and storage, I hardly ever clean it. And when I do, it gets fucked up again within a week. I set up a little studio for mixing and producing.

kek, you fucking knew it was thriller.

Original LP, you can't hate on thriller. You seem like you are from /b/, shouldn't you be praising that chomo for all he got away with?
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>>52304235
my answer is, wait look at that mous- ghrahaha how do you even use it
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>>52304251

>OG mx1000

>Now have a touch screen

go to bed, I ate your b8

feel good that you got a response from someone on the internet, and think that you got one over on them.
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>>52304287
>has personal space to construct man cave
>does this instead >>52304066
>gets rustled hard
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>>52304310

got me soo good, tell your friends about it.
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>>52304377
whens the last time you changed that air filter, be honest
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>>52304389

Don't know what you mean or where you are going with this.
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>>52304389
>>52304404


oh you are talking about the thing in the corner, that's a fan, a shitty fan desu. and I clean the grates when they get disgusting. Pic was taken in the summer, when I was starting to put my little studio together.
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>>52300172
all of them
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>>52299259
>no gigantic Lenovo slapped on
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Got my shiny t420 today (pic related). It looks and runs great. 1600x900 panel, 4 gb ram, 160 gb SSD, 2.5 ghz i5, 9 cell battery with only 50 cycles for $240.

Now, if I wanted to reinstall windows where would be a good place to get wifi, video, touchpad, etc. drivers?
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>>52305440
>Now, if I wanted to reinstall windows where would be a good place to get wifi, video, touchpad, etc. drivers?
Where the fuck do you think
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>>52305492
It is saying to get the Lenovo Solution center? On my x201 it came with a folder with all the drivers I needed.
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>>52305515
>Can't figure out how to go to Lenovo's driver downloads page for his specific model
Are you sure you should be on /g/ ?
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>>52297713
what kind of beardless retard would buy a thinkpad in 2016
>its 2016, just buy an ideapad already looser
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>>52305655
I can figure it out. It is just unorganized as hell and there are dozens of drivers that look pointless. I was just curious because I have all these drivers saved on my external hard drive for the x201, and I am starting to think they share enough components to where they will share drivers. But who is to tell because lenovo names all their drivers random letters and numbers.
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>>52305750
>it's current year meme
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>>52305784
Excuse me, you have no right to photoshop my image.
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Installed W10 on X220.

1. Shall I just keep the HD3000 drivers Windows Update installed?
2. What shall I install for battery/power management? I remember it was supposed to be installed in W7 compatibility mode to make it work perfectly?
3. Same as 2. but regarding keyboard hotkey.
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>>52306026
Why would you taint a thinkpad with Windows 10
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>>52299771

> X220
> Ubuntu 14.04

Probably going to switch to Debian. Might give Gentoo another try.
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>>52306046

It's an LTSB version and I need it for work.

> Why would you answer to someone kindly asking for support with an unrelated question
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>>52306111
Who are you quoting?
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>>52306177
It's "Whom are you quoting?"
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>>52299771
x220t

windows 10 :^)
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>>52305440
CL or eBay anon? Nice price btw
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Is Mark's laptop a ThinkPad?
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Battery question here, had a question yesterday and it didn't get answered.

If I'm buying a new battery, should I only ever buy from Lenovo directly, or is it safe to buy from other major retailers?
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>>52308177
I can see "elitebook" being written on it.
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The designer of Thinkpad is kill

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/06/thinkpad_designer_obituary/
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>>52297915
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>>52308290
>tripfag
>late as always
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>>52299771
>X201
>Debian testing with no nonfree packages
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>>52308290

>favourite
>modelled

Oh you Brits, can't even spell your owns words correctly, always adding in extra letters to appear like you're intelligent or something for no good reason.

I mean really.
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>>52308196
Luck of the draw. If it's marked legit and priced accordingly (and has lenovo logos on it), it's likely legit. If ebay then it's still a gamble but as above, usually marked legit if it is so. If not marked then assume otherwise
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>>52309213
It's from the Staples website.

From what I can tell, it's a new (not refurbished), 100% lenovo battery, but it's priced as about 60$ less than what I'd pay on Lenovo's website. So my concern arises from there.
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>>52306026
1. install the latest of the two
2. lenovo power manager & management driver in window7 compatibility mode
3. same as 2. but w/ hotkey driver
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>>52308981
>this is bait
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hi /tpg/, I recently got a T430 with i5 3360, nvidia graphics, SSD and all the goodies for $300. Pretty sweet deal and it's running very nice so far.

I'm going to be using it mainly as a desktop replacement, which means it'll be powered on at least 16 hours a day. So I've been thinking: should I get a dock to ease the process of carrying it to and from university without all that hassle with the cables OR should I get one of those cooling pads for laptops to prolong its life expectancy?
Is there a middle ground solution? (dock with cooling fans?)

Temps are pretty normal from what I've been told (~40 idle, up to 85 at full load). I'm worrying though about its longevity because all of my previous laptops eventually died due to temperature related problems and I plan on keeping this at least 3 years.
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>tfw no 4-cell for X201s
Do you think it could come shipped with the laptop? The seller mentioned a working battery but I didn't care to ask him which type it is (since it will probably need replacement or renewal). I don't think I'm gonna need 6-cell and 4-cell would be a little slimmer.
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>>52309710
I have the exact same question and usage, but for a X220t i7 instead.
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>ordered t7200 for my t60
>got t7700 in mail
am i fucked and should just return it or will it work? idk, any bios updates?
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>>52309714
the battery life on a 4 cell is literally 3 hours or less
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can you guys help me?
basically I put 9mm SSD into my X220, and it fit thankfully, then I installed Win 10, the worst part is my laptop now have trouble with the sound, basically there's this 'buzz' or lag every time I play some youtube or just video, how do I fix this? also my fingerprint is not working now... I'm going back to my old HDD if it keep like this
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>>52309710
>>52309760

I tried a cooling pad that I had and it made it hotter. Why you ask? Because the huge ammounts of air that's pushed inside got trapped inside and somehow fucked the internal pressure. Used a Coolermaster notepal U3. But just having something that lifts it up helps to bring the temps to 3-4C less.

Those laptops are not dekstop replacements, hence they will get quite hot if you want to game or do any demaning activities. Get a W series, they are designed for that.
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>>52309902
>then I installed Win 10
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>>52309942
Well I ain't gonna be gayming or anything but the fact that it'll be powered on for that many hours a day still needs a solution.
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>>52310014

The fan keeps the temperatures constant. The computer gives two fucks about being powered on 30 minutes or 12 days straight.
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>>52309965
I'm planning on dual boot to Arch soon tho, but cmon help me this one, it's annoying that this lag buzzing sound comes extensively I can't even enjoy my anime...
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>>52310055
OK I 'll be going with a dock then.

Followup questions:
Can I use the laptop on the dock without a battery on? (to reduce the strain on the battery)

Should I go for the 170W dock or is the 90W enough? (my T430 has the nvidia graphics)
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>>52309886
Even 3 hours would be fine, I'm going to buy a separate tablet that I will use most of the time.
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>>52297713
holy shit, x220's are sub-$100 on ebay right now, dozens of em
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>>52308196
anker is a reliable company and they sell on amazon. have 2 batteries from them
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Thinkpad, OS, Why, Mods.
I'll start:
> x220
> xubuntu (i3wm) with functional rice
> xubuntu = just werks (tm) , also loonix > nsa
> 180GB SSD, 8GB RAM, 9cell (full capacity)
tfw your thinkpad is literally perfect :')
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>>52310679
if you're using i3wm why bother with xfce at all?
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>>52310767
I don't have xfce, just using xubuntu for a lightweight ubuntu core (also install wasn't autistic like arch) and I use mainly xfce programs in my i3 env, including xfce4-screenshooter, thunar, xfce4-terminal, pavucontrol, these all come bundled with xubuntu so there's no need for anything extra to be installed really, keeps my system lightweight, also apt-get is mature enough now and I like it, I used to love the air and all, but Ubuntu core is fine, its unity that's killing it desu desu
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>>52310604

How long is your runtime? Could it be better to buy 2 anker batteries instead of 1 OEM battery?
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>>52310679
T420
Windows 7 professional with bug.n
Never have been attracted to linux, and windows works just fine
2 x 1TB HDD's, 8GB RAM, 9 cell (full capacity), Slice (95% capacity)
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>>52310437
Okay, I found a 4-cell battery for X201s. According to Lenovo they're 13mm thick so they can't have 18650 cells, which have 18mm diameter. Any idea what could be inside?
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Which Thinkpad is good for Win98 or 95? I want to play some old games without buying another tower desktop
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>>52311525
600x
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>>52310679
>x220t
>windows 10, just for school
>i7, 8 gigs ram, 240gb ssd, 9cell ~75% capacity (replacing soon)
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>>52311554
>%75 capacity
>replacing

This is why there's such a good used market. Keep buying the new high tech toys goy.
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>>52311547
thanks
Also one more question.
Battery in my mothers T400 died. Are genuine Lenovo batteries worth it?
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>>52311612
yes. ive had bad experience with chinkshit batteries.
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>>52310562
>X220 released in 2011
>3 year leases on them
>They all come off lease around the same time
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>>52311578
>implying

I buy off-brand chink batteries then use them until 75% then sell them for 90% of what I paid.
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just ordered a T430s for £290, did i fuck up /tpg/?
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>>52312450
also, i need a USB hub. what's a decent one that isn't too big and isn't made of communist aids blankets?
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>not necessarily Lenovo
>good reviews
>price: under £400
>size: 13inch+
>usage: Firefox, Word, MPlayer
>optional: SSD, HDMI output
I don't know. All I found so far is a refurbished Vostro
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>>52297713
Just ordered x230 with i7-3520m, 8GB RAM, 180GB intel SSD, WWAN, BT, illuminated keyboard (backlight+thinklight), IPS screen, Win8.1 key, 9cell battery.
Cost me $350. I live in Poland, so the price wasn't high at all.
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>>52312450
You're good as long as you got the variant with thunderbolt.
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Are slimline models any worse than the originals?
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>>52313232
Generally speaking they are. You trade battery life, thermals, and serviceability/upgradability for somewhat reduced weight and thickness. It doesn't matter so much with the newer ones where the "original" models are ultrabook crap anyway, but for T420s vs T420 it's not even a competition to me, and I've used both machines. Only reason I'd go for a T420s is if I couldn't find a regular T420 with the 1600x900 screen, since the -s variant always has it.
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>>52308196
anker is the only third party I found reliable.
One battery gives about 1 year of runtime (heavy daily use)
There are also third parties selling OEM lenovo batteries for cheaper if you are lucky.
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I'm building a kodi box. What is more reasonable: a rpi2 or a t500? Cost is about the same, but the t500 would cost more to operate. Both would be connected to a 1080p screen.
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>>52313115
that's pretty fucking good considering all the bells and whistles
you gonna install an x220 keyboard?
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My T420 temps spike up to 80-85°C when watching HD videos on youtube. Is this normal or should I be worried?

Opening the link with livestreamer obviously works just fine but I still need to know.
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>>52307675
Ebay. Theres one up now for $190
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>>52313232
>>52313334
X series slim have better battery life though.
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>>52314326
They aren't restricted to 6cells like the slim T series are?
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>>52314326
Nah, 4, 6 and 9-cell options (at least for X201s).
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>>52314451
Meant to reply to >>52314373
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>>52297757
>x61
>no IBM logo
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Ok lads, so i just acquired a X201. This is going to be my first thinkpad and i plan to use it as a learning tool.

what system would you recommend i use?
Mind you
>i have very limited experience with GNU/Linux, although im a fast learner
>im paranoid privacy wise, so the most secure the system the better
>gaming and media consumption will be performed on other machines.

I was thinking Arch linux, which i plan to herden the fuck out once i learn how. any better ideas?
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Bumping for purely selfish reasons
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>>52314872
>I want to harden Linux
https://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/os/redhat/NSA_RHEL_5_GUIDE_v4.2.pdf
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>>52302293
you better make sure it doesn't overheat. You might want to go in and replace the thermal paste.
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X220 owners running Archlinux, how do you fix brightness keys not working out of the box?

archwiki page says to use acpi_osi='!Windows 2012' in the kernel parameters but that creates 2 display backlight controlers in /sys/classes/backlight

Also how do you disable turbo? Echoing 1 into /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo does not work
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>>52299974
Wait, 1600mhz ram won't work in my t420 with i5 2540m? Shit...
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is it true that watching 720p 1080p movies is shit on a 1600x900?
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anyone here tried to swap out the 1600x900 panel by a 1080p on T450?

I just ordered one 1080p panel and will be doing that, I heard that doing this will lock your screen at full brightness. Anyone can confirm plus some possible solutions?
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>>52313895
temps being that high isn't normal, I get about 60-65 watching HD videos on Netflix.

I recommaned mpv + youtube-dl and if you use Firefox the OpenWith add on makes it as simple as right clicking a youtube thumbnail and selecting mpv to watch videos. Also you can watch videos in lower resolution formats, I generally watch all youtube videos in webm format.
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>>52313505
Rpi2 is totally fine.
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>>52310679
>x200s
>arch + i3 + muh rice
> 60GB SSD + 9 cell
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Just got an x220, but it won't boot from usb. It just goes blank for a second, then back to the boot menu.

I tried with multiple usb's, and I tried with both the gentoo install image and the intel bios update current image (both with unetbootin and dd).

Anyone else experienced this?
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>>52308177
its an HP elitebook, either the 8760w or the 8770w.
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How much will an m2 SSD improve battery life on my t420, or would a 2,5inch SSD be Mord suitable?
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>>52316414
Have you tried bringing back the BIOS to default settings?
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>>52316453
more*
Fucking german autocorrect
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>>52315618
pls no i just bought t430s with that res
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>>52316461
Let me rephrase that.
Regarding battery life: m2 SSD or 2.5inch SSD?
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LENOVO Has Released a homage to Thinkpad at the following URL:

http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thisisthinkpad/history/#his-story-her-story-our-story

This page boasts the monumental innovations ushered by Thinkpads throughout history.

Jizz away.
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>>52316577
>they didn't feature the W700ds

The fuck?
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>>52316461

well hold me down and fuck me sideways, it worked!
I'm just surprised because I tried resolving a similar issue on my desktop last week (gigabyte motherboard) and ended up giving up
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>>52316577
>Her story.
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>>52316617
So now that I've got that out of the way, I guess I'm gonna start to install gentoo.

I've read online (on thinkwiki I think) that thinkpads have some sort of wonky issue with GPT boot setups. Should I use MBR instead for my x220? Will that make those issues go away?
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>>52316955
>trying into gentoo, when he couldn't troubleshoot previous problem

maybe don't bite off more than you can chew?
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Missed the boat on the T420 FHD kits and guess the bugfixes aren't coming at this point. Still waiting :(
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>>52316980
seriously, don't except someone to have an answer to all your questions.

>installing gentoo on a machine not optimized for it
you're just asking for a headache
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Which ThinkPads have a glossy screen which is flushed with the bezels (like MacBook, Dell XPS 13)?
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>>52316980
Eh, I've been using it on my desktop for a few months, and I like it so far. I guess I kinda gave up too easily on the booting issue because of how much trouble I had with my old gigabyte motherboard. Those bios issues can be nasty, which is why I'm trying to figure out if I have to use MBR to dodge more problems on the thinkpad ahead of time.

Also, I guess I'd kind of assumed that the bios settings were already at default, even though I had no reason to

>>52317047
Yeah, I know this isn't tech support. My bad on that one.
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>>52317047
>installing gentoo on a machine not optimized for it
Why do you say that the X220 has problems with Gentoo?
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What's the verdict on the X250?
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How can I configure the ThinkVantage button on my x230 under windows 10?

I've searched google and editing the registry doesn't do a thing.
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>>52313165
sadly, not
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when it comes to ultrabay caddies, where is the best place the score one in the UK?

is a shitty chinese one okay? or go lenovo?

inb4 implying lenovo isn't a chinky brand
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>>52317819
Caddies are passive adapters.
Everything works, from expensive ones to 5$ chinkshit.
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>>52317978
thx, will order one from banggood or aliexpress or some shit
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A good thinkpad for my father that will last quite a while? All he does is web browsing and spreadsheets and budget is around £100, although it can be a little more.
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>tfw buyers remorse for x1 carbon

Should have got a t450s
Also, opinions on t420s as second laptop?
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>tfw won a X200 with a dock for 'parts' at 34 USD

probably only missing a power adapter i hope. didn't expect to win it desu, we'll see how it goes i guess.
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>>52318577
As usual, beware of the meh battery life on the T420s as the largest - the 6 cell is smaller than the usual 6 cell. Sure you can attach a slice but that means adding another half kilo

>>52318477
T410/T510 maybe. Dunno how prices are in britbongistan. But finding the newest T series possible for the price is probably the idea
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>>52318477
http://www.rectech.co.uk/7,1271,laptops.laptops_150_199.lenovo_thinkpad_x230_2.6ghz_320gb_4gb_269.html#

crazy bargain
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>>52305440
Noice, has the good panel too. Can't stand the lower res one.
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So I gave in the meme and got a t420 after my previous laptop was stolen. And I have to say that I love this thing!
I just have two question, do I need to do anything special to improve the linux compatibility (so far seems perfect but it just been 2-3 hours), and the battery is pretty low, is there a tool (win or linux) to check the health of the batteries? I'm gonna replace the back one but I wanted to know if I should also replace the front one ( internal). Oh and anyway to improve the battery life as much as possible? I don't need much perfs
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What's a good thinkpad for recording audio and a tiny bit of production?
I'll be using an audio interface, so the audio chip in the motherboard can be horrible.

What's the cheapest I can go?
x201 or something?
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>>52319052
tlp is pretty useful for checking battery health and power management.
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I'm not sure if I should post this here, but I'm trying to fix a microphone on an edge e531. It seems to work properly only if the screen is tilted at certain awkward angles. After the screen is tilted back to a certain point, it stops working.

What would be causing this? My guess would be it's some sort of connection problem, but I don't even know what else it could be.
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>>52319457
The jack is loose, it has some gap between the plastic housing and the jack itself causing it to lose contact by gravity. I had a headphone jack do this and just put a small piece of credit card plastic between them to stop the wagglan and it works to this day.
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Yoyo , Bought a t500 second hand for $50 battery was lasting 20 mins so bought a new and bigger battery off eBay. It lasts a bit longer, about 1 and half hours . is this normal I heard others get 3-5 hours.
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>>52305440
>Willingly putting spyware on your computer
>being this stupid
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>>52319449
So I got that, if I get it correctly it means my battery holds 31.7Wh on the 47.5 originals? That seems pretty good, I got around 1,5/2h on windows browsing or watching movies is that normal then? I thought the battery life would be higher
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>>52320087
forgot file
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>>52319449
>>52320087
>>52320104
Checking lenovo's site I see that I have the choice between 70+ and 70++ (6 and 9 cell) does anyone know a benchmark of the battery life with one of those? I'm ok with spending 100+ eur if I get a real plus else I probably won't bother
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>>52320306
Would depend on your energy requirements but a safe assumptionfro your sandy bridvge is 1 hour of battery life per cell.
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bought an x220 and the mic is completely broken. its extremely quiet and fades to silence when you start to speak into it. is there a fix for this I've tried updating the driver to no avail. should I just send it back?
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>>52303937
Fuck yes I've been looking for that for so long
>>
Did I do good guys?
X220
i7-2640m
4gb ram
320gb hdd

$150

I don't know if the screen is IPS or not
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>>52303937
>>52303959
>>52297915

use the right one
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>>52318577
Yeah... I'm there with ya.
Selling my machine, currently at $500, hopefully I can recoup more, paid $900.

>>52313334
I had a T430s which was configured with a 720p screen! :(

>>52311547
(S)he asked good, not greatest of all time ThinkPad.

>>52309802
I don't think it will work...
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anyone here tried to swap out the 1600x900 panel by a 1080p on T450?

I just ordered one 1080p panel and will be doing that, I heard that doing this will lock your screen at full brightness. Anyone can confirm plus some possible solutions?
>>
Why the hell did Lenovo stop making the Advanced Docks? I was able to upgrade my T400's GPU all the way to a Radeon HD 6450 with that shit. The port replicators are completely useless in comparison.
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>>52320973
What don't you like about your x1?

Personally, my panel has some light leaking and bright spots which are damn frustrating. Also just prefer the design of the other laptops over the ultrabook sleek design.
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why would one buy an x200 over say an x220? just for no trackpad? also isnt the processor in the x220 newer, and if you didnt want a trackpad in x220, just disable in bios like i did!
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>>52321985
X200 supports Libreboot. Also some people prefer 16:10 aspect ratio and don't need much more power than what a Penryn C2D offers.
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>>52322016
oh okay, i guess libreboot and 16:10 is also a big reason to go for one, and the c2d is fine i guess for basic tasks, hows the battery on one? also are there extended battery options for it? with those how is the battery life?
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I want a thinkpad from the newer series.

X240 in mint condition for €400.
i5, 1366*786 IPS, 500GB/16GB SSD and 8 GB, I will be upgrading the touchpad myself, as well as put in a M.2 128GB SSD. Probably upgrade the screen as well later on when I have the money.

Worth it?
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I have a T420 and I replaced the optical drive with a secondary HDD (I have an SSD as my boot drive.)

I don't want to get rid of it, I don't want it to be ejected, I want it to be there.

This shit keeps popping up whenever I wake up my computer. How do I make it so this shit stops happening?
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my w520 just became a brick, lasted me since 2011 but fuck duno what to do now, considering buying a refurbished t420 but shits quite expensive especially for a "downgrade" (in europe), and i loved the sturdiness of the thinkpad (my w520 had some accidents but kept on trucking for a good while)

or ill go lick lenovos ass and buy a newer thinkpad, duno
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>>52321858
Did you have to use a second monitor with those docks like you do with eGPU?
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Should i buy them /g/?
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Asking again, but would a x60s be fine for watching 720p anime and word processing?
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>buy a refurbished T420
>update BIOS
>try to install fedora via USB
>it just hangs on a black screen when putting hte USB in, freezes if you put it in in BIOS menu.

What do?
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>>52323116
Reset bios settings and check you didn't screw up putting the .iso on the usb.
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>>52323094
no you fucking weeb grow up or kill yourself
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>>52323133
I'll try resetting the BIOS settings, but for the USB I tried using Rufus and UUI, neither seemed to work.
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>>52323094
Yes, that should work.
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>>52322167
Install Gentoo
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>>52323133
That didn't work, damn. This sucks.
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>>52323608
Re-download the .iso, make sure you have the right one (64 or 32 bit?), and if you are running windows at the moment use Universal Usb Installer.
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>>52323634
Yeah that's not the problem, literally as soon as I put the USB in everything freezes, or if I do it before the ThinkPad splash comes up, it just hangs on a black screen.
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trips jej kek lel hehehea
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>>52323666
Try a different usb, or install from disc maybe?
Perhaps your usb ports are fucked.
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re roll for trips xddDD
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3 time charm xd
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>>52323687
Yeah I was thinking that too. Tried on a docking station as well, USB ports didn't work. Going to try a disc next. Devil's trips = no hope.
Thanks for the help anon.
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>>52323694
>>52323679
>>52323703
G E T
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this time
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>>52323740
Works on the seventh time I swear
>>
https://rbt.asia/g/thread/S37036479#p37049641

how tho
Was he rusin'?

>i686 kernel on P8600
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>>52313595
No, why the hell should I?
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>>52324458
Because it's superior and you know it.
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>>52319803
well after formating and installing windows I don't even have wifi drivers. Wat do. Recovery disc? The drivers on lenovo's website don't work at all.
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>>52320553
at that price there is no way it is the IPS panel. Still a good deal though.
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guys, i have X problem, and I'm too lazy to google the answer for it, please spoonfeed me!
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>>52324504
No, it's not. The keys are much harder to clean up and are more fragile. Also I'll loose the illumination option.
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>>52324545
never mind, got it figured out. Lenovo has the worst driver organization ever
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Buy refurbished T450s for $800 y/n? I want dat dere IPS screen
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i'm locked out of my bios, and ideas on how to get in? i tried removing battery from board, didn't help.
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>>52325081
Return it to the person you stole it from, tyrone.
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its possible to forget passwords when you don't use them often pal. good burn though.
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>>52325117
its possible to forget passwords when you don't use them often pal. good burn though.
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>>52324967
>Refurbished
>T450s
>$800
Why not just get a brand new one then ?
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>>52325081
could replace the bios chip, but they don't come cheap, may as well ditch the thing.
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>>52325081
You're fucked. You need to resort to methods like dumping the contents of the chip in older models and voodoo involving shorting out while booting in the newer ones
Or get a new board

>>52324659
Whatever happened to the staple install gentoo response to everything?

>>52324747
>what is Thinklight
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>>52325691
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