T-Mobile CEO John Legere says "Who the fuck are you?" to EFF after they question legality of video throttling
EFF KEKS BTFO
>CEO of tech service company
>doesn't know who the EFF is
Based? The man is a fucking retard. Feels to know that all of my EFF donations have gone toward to making life hard for shit kickers like this guy.
I just signed up for T-Mobile's $30 unlimited data meme plan like a lot of /g/ was raving about is the best deal.
Fucking VoIP over cellular data sucks shit. If I'm under 4 bars calls are choppy as shit and under 3 calls don't even come through. I was better off on ATT.
he rides this around T-Mo HQ in Bellevue, WA
it's like a stair climbing machine with wheels and has T-Mo shit plastered all over
sometimes he wears pink spandex
You know, if you believe tripfags are a problem then giving them attention isn't going to do jack shit. In fact it will just encourage them to keep posting.
Either learn to ignore tripcodes or take 1 excruciatingly painful minute to learn how to filter trips.
Also please use the copy pasta instead, tripfags don't like having to navigate youtube and waiting for the video to buffer. Unless your aim is to make them slightly annoyed then by all means keep doing that.
until I heard him speak I thought he was european. he looks like tommy wiseau from "the room"
I could never understand these overly-cheesy CEOs like him and Steve Ballmer. Is this what it takes to be a good salesman? To be over the top and obnoxious to the point of absurdity and embarrassment? They remind me of car salesmen, but instead of trying to sell you a broken automobile with 150,000 miles, they're trying to sell you operating systems, software, and cell phones. I just don't understand.
>T-mobile's CEO is a dumbass
>unlimited high speed lte plans probably won't last much longer
I'm pretty glad I didn't switch over to T-mobile. I was considering buying a moto g and switching over to them.
Only paying $60/month for unlimited high speed lte at 20-30 Mbps with boost mobile right now. Feels pretty damn good.
TMo doesn't really do long contracts though. I bought my phone and got a SIM card from them, and was never tied to any contracts. If TMo starts to suck, I simply switch to another carrier. Really, everyone should do this.
not really. CEOs act as the spokesperson for the particular company/brand they're employed by. The actions and personality of the person leading the ship will be reflected in their products and services. That's why T-Mobile is known as the "stripper" cell phone carrier while ATT has a more professional appearance. I'm not referring to the technicalities that separate these two companies--I'm talking purely from an aesthetics stand point. The only people I know that use T-Mobile are poor people, strippers, and social rejects. They would need to replace the CEO and the majority of the execs in T-Mobile to even begin to be taken seriously. People don't read the clauses and benefits of a cellphone carrier, they look to what their friends have and what phones look the prettiest. It's a pretty shitty filtering mechanism, I know. But it's the same reason why people prefer to purchase Apple products over other systems--because they look pretty to the mass public. This CEO of T-Mobile just seems like a trashy dude in all honesty.
I posted a sarcastic on reddit about this saying it's great how we have net neutrality to stop throttling. Got like 40 something upvotes. I new it just gave the FCC more control over the internet and does nothing for the consumer.
>I thought you guys fucking loved him.
>liking some corporate fuck
>le who the fuck are le you
>I know who are you after all bb
Mobile carriers were allowed exceptions on net neutrality for services like the ones tmobile is now cramming down everyone's throats. I saw this exact situation coming a mile away as soon as they allowed for this. If you allow exceptions to net neutrality then its not true net neutrality. The carriers argue that this is beneficial for the consumer because it lets them use data without affecting their cap(which is an entirely artificial limit anyway) but it really does nothing except make two speeds; fast and slow. The exact shit we were arguing against to begin with
I know. That was why I was against it. It gave more authority to the FCC but did little to regulate corporations. My biggest fear is that with the new power they have it could be sold to the highest bidder. Probably AT&T
>Advice from a trip ag on how to get rid of tripfags
Ironic opinion discarded
He used consumer in the right context, as his company is primarily concerned with selling consumables (i.e. cellphones and bandwidth), not software.
Lurk a little more before you try memeing to fit in
I-is your response suppose to also be irony in an of itself? pls no bully
>Here's the short version: T-Mobile has been claiming that its "BingeOn" program, which offers some free video from select partners to customers, and also downgrades the quality of all other video as part of an opt-out program, is collectively a form of video "optimization." Three days ago, the EFF published an investigation that exposed T-Mobile's marketing language for the euphemistic misdirection it is: instead of "optimizing" video streams, the company has been identifying video traffic and then throttling that traffic to 1.5Mbps.
> the FCC is looking into T-Mobile's program
note that this isn't people arguing semantics here; tmobile is literally throttling all video downloads to 1.5mbps to force streaming services to deliver a lower bitrate. there's no "optimization" happening here. just simple throttling, which is not innovation OR a service.
what's more fascinating, they do this with ALL video content, even when the filename is changed, or headers deliver the file as text or something else -- which means they're reading the content (invading privacy) to determine what it is.
no way around it: John Legere was either LYING or blatantly misleading people, OR he had no idea what the fuck he was talking about.
Haha who went on fiverr and paid this guy to say this shit.
Can you get a more textbook example of pic related?
There's a difference between people who found companies and people who rise to the top of them. Think about the difference in personality there must be between the original visionary of the company, and the person who plays office politics well enough for decades in order to become the "leader". The difference in vision must be astounding. But retiring founders have little choice in the matter. People who would be as great as them at running the company are all off trying to start their own. They don't necessarily want to be step-daddy to some other great man's institution
I'm afraid you're uneducated on the subject. Reading traffic to determine its nature isn't illegal. Its perfectly legal for ISPs to throttle based on content type. (Although avoidable with a VPN)
What's not legal is only doing it to certain customers and not others.
content type, yes
reading the CONTENTS of a file, no
with the EFF test, they purposely made the file look like something other than video and it was still throttled. this means TMo is looking into the content of a file to figure out what it is, which is more advanced than reading a data header or a content-type
Exactly. Anybody who is acting as a mere conduit is able to look at metadata as much as they damn well please. But the moment you look at *content*, that requires at the very least a pen register authorization, but much more likely it would require a wire tap authorization in the US.
Yes, on an arm chip. I use a VPN for everything on my phone (specifically do prevent bullshit like this), the overhead is barely greater than using TLS, which you should already be doing anyway.
Honesty an ISP can look at content all day if it wants, it just makes them slimeballs. Government entities need warrants and such if they want to do it or make somebody do it for them (or at least they are supposed to).
Now throttling different content types gets you into trouble, remember ISPs that got in trouble for trying to throttle torrents?
Mobile tends to have more leeway for an ISP to do shit like this though as they can claim they are doing it for "network management" and the regulators normally end up saying its fine. This case is a bit different because they keep on telling lies about how it works to users.
>Its heuristic analysis. It's not an invasion of privacy.
Heuristic analysis by a carrier on content without express permission is, by legal definition, an invasion of privacy. You may feel otherwise, but your feelings are irrelevant to the point being made here: the law explicitly forbids shit like this. It's the reason why Tor exit nodes can only filter on metadata like port number and destination IP, and not content (which is how I, not who you're responding to, personally know about this, as I do stuff with the Tor project). If Tor was allowed to throttle content if the exit node detected content being a large download, or a botnet, they wouldn't do that? Instead, we have to use the shit huerstics we have, because *that's all exit relays can legally do*. Cell phone carriers aren't any different.
>Who fucking cares?
Again, my guess would be a lot of lawyers, judges, and participants in a class action lawsuit might be prone to care. Just because you personally don't mind automated processing of content by a carrier doesn't mean that the law has nothing to say about this.
>Honesty an ISP can look at content all day if it wants
Not legally, they can't.
>Government entities need warrants and such if they want to do it or make somebody do it for them
So does everyone. Why the hell do you think whenever you call your bank, or your cable company, or whatever large call center, they play a recording that says "this call may be recorded"? Because they MUST have your consent when doing so.
Classy way to respond it this, I love it. It's embarrassing for him, and great publicity for then.
10/10 EFF, good job.
I fucking love Ballmer though. He is a general nice guy to the public, but he could be brutal towards his competitors. I still wish he would make good on his promise to "fucking kill Google".
When did he pick up his rock n roll bad boy CEO persona?
He should fucking kill himself already
>doesn't know who the EFF is
God fucking damn it
EFF hasn't been credible for a long time.
All money donated to the EFF is money donated to a bunch of absolute corrupt cunts.
60 bucks a month is actually a lot of money. Eurocucks get unlimited high speed lte for like 20 euros a month.
Also boost got spark lte into their service like last year and is the reason our tripcuck is getting those download speeds. It will only get better as more places get spark lte. I'm not really sure if we should be calling boost mobile the poor nigger cellphone carrier anymore. I mean yeah the plans are cheap but you're now also getting spark lte with them. I think cricket should take the title of the poor nigger cellphone carrier now. They have cheap plans and shit service (thank you att&t).
I have verizon but my cousin has boost mobile and those fast download speeds aren't a myth. Though I think only major cities have spark lte for now.
>Eurocucks get unlimited high speed lte for like 20 euros a month.
Definitely not in all EU countries
I pay 29 EUR for 2 GB data + phone flat rate to all networks
Throttled to modem speeds after 2 GB
Do you really have to announce that? Nobody gives a fuck if a tripfag triggered you, filter them and shut your whore mouth. Do you announce every time you filter a tripfag? What are you a fucking bird?!
>Always hitting data cap
>Binge on comes out
>never go over 500mb anymore
Why are you guys so buttflustered? Turn it off if you dont like it, but I love being able to watch netflix without killing my data.
Here's the list of streaming services that T-Mobile whitelists. Notice how Youtube is not on the list.
>So, he's a fucking retard who doesn't know jack shit?
Jesus... It's called sarcasm.
Of course he knows what the EFF is.
What he's saying is "who the fuck are you even?" implying the EFF is not important enough to be known by him.
>implying the EFF is not important enough to be known by him.
No fucktard. He's actually asking the question in that fashion because EFF is causing a lot of trouble for Tmobile due to the FCC complaints they have been filing, so he's actually curious exactly who's supporting them. He knows and acknowledges their presence. That insult wasn't to belittle EFF.
>4G is a joke in Chicago, you'll always have bars but no bandwidth
>out in the sticks its the fastest shit ever
>they load their phones with more bloatware than I've ever seen on any other carrier
Moving out of state in June, planning to go back to Sprint
G is a joke in Chicago, you'll always have bars but no bandwidth
iktf all too well
Holy fuck, peak hours in the city are suffering
I never even bother to buy carrier branded phones after I made the mistake to get a GS2 from tmo
If webbrowsing while commuting can be a fucking nightmare getting a 150mb download might as well require a miracle. I'm glad the FCC is on their ass. No one should suffer on tmobile in Chicago, especially when they are lied to about it being unlimited
eh I have Verizon for my primary and tmo on my other line for unlimited data
Verizon is useless in the city during the workday for data, I have to force it on EVDO for even 4chan to load.
Tmo Is the same except I force it on UMTS/HSDPA instead of LTE and I can stream hulu/netflix all day no problem
Damn that's shit. Got a 100/20 unlimited LTE for like 25 yuros a month. It slows down to half in the weekends but i'm happy. In finland btw.
Actually youth can easily be retained if you work out daily, stay fit and maintain a healthy weight. I know this guy in my neighborhood who looks like he's in his 30's that goes jogging every morning. Turns out he's like 50.
Reminder that actual regular consumers don't give a shit about throttling video bitrates as long as it saves them on their monthly data plan; 480p is good enough for a smartphone, and most people won't even notice the difference. They can also opt out of this feature any time from their account settings. That's how it's been since Day One, and no other U.S. carrier has ever offered anything like this.
The only reason this has become an issue is because T-Mobile stepped on Google's toes and now Google is throwing a shitfit with industry groups and government agencies. Don't ever trust Google.
It wouldn't hurt to browse the thread you're in. Yes, even for someone like you who is so important that he has to make sure everyone knows who he is when reading a post of him.