now, whats the best? opinions from ricers welcome
I used ircii back in the day, riced to fuck and back. irssi is probably the best now, and it has silc support.
We probably shouldn't still be using IRC in 2016. It's horrifically insecure. Even the botnet C&Cs have been moving off it for years now.
What is it with open-source developers and hanging out on IRC?
Just admit you're a neet manchild with too much time on his hands and the one single reason why you're asking this is so you can enlarge your e-penis and street cred on /g/ while cirklejerking in deskshit threads.
IRC can be very useful.
But for those rare times IRC is useful any client will do, even a barebones web based one.
It's nice having the option though.
You can still do pretty much everything through text commands, but you have the GUI there if you're too lazy.
I have a fuckload of custom commands I made that I'm not bothered to remember, right clicking on users to bring up a menu just werks
>I like stock default looks cause I am a normie with bland taste who doesn't even know what IRC is aside from CIS.
Or it could be the fact that high volume channels can somewhat hard to read depending on the client default settings. Not sure why you're so buttmad, people do the same things with their favorite editors/ide to suit thier needs. Hard to follow junior?
anyone can suddenly become "stupid" one day
with services like facebook there are legal ways to make people who suddenly act "stupid" liable for what they've done
not saying you should use facebook but it is just an example for a trusted company many people trust
Have you read the terms and conditions? They can literally do what they like, it's not your private information anymore.
The difference is that IRC is so low-level and relaitvely small, that there is a good chance you could actually know (in person) someone who runs a server.
facebook is probably the worst choice for a comparison but my point is that when shit like that would happen in a company a lot of pressure would come down onto them from investors, law enforcement and media while nobody would really give a damn about shit going down on an irc except for the people directly involved
I've been administering a couple irc networks myself and I know shit like that is very rarely to happen but a lot of networks simply don't give a fuck and aren't transparent enough for the users to know whether they give a fuck or not
I'd still rather trust someone running a free server because they enjoy it over someone who does it because they are paid to.
What makes you think being whipped by the investors and law enforcement is a good idea exactly? That's exactly what causes the insecurities in the first place.
>I'd still rather trust someone running a free server because they enjoy it over someone who does it because they are paid to.
a good irc network run by people who aren't afraid to have their real names connected to the network, sure
>What makes you think being whipped by the investors and law enforcement is a good idea exactly?
losing money or the fear of losing money makes a lot of people bend over faster than anything else
>losing money or the fear of losing money makes a lot of people bend over faster than anything else
Yes but bend over to who or what exactly? Certainly not their users who pay nothing for the service.
Plenty of security holes in modern communication systems are because of law enforcement wanting a backdoor.
IRC operators not giving a fuck about requests for user data is not a bad thing, it's a good thing.
I'm not saying they should never cooperate, but asking how high every time the police say jump is certainly not good.
I get you and I have a lot of love for irc too but with the way the Internet was built and evolved over the years I don't see any other ways to effectively fight corrupt admins and trolls
with that said I am against mass surveillance but some data has to be logged for some time so it can be handed over to law enforcement if harm was done to people
That's kinda the point though, if the admins are shitty you can just go elsewhere, or make your own network.
Good luck doing the same if some shitbag high up in the gmail or facebook ranks decides they don't like you.
If anything, pissing off an IRCop is more likely to get you in shit because they have more direct access to your logs, but they rarely give enough of a shit to care.
Also, I dunno what harm they're gonna do with just my IP and my username.