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Holy shit, AMD finally got around to updating the stock cooler that they've been using since the socket 754 days.

>goes from jet turbine to somewhat acceptable
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>>52291937
>2016
>caring about fan noise

Wew
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>Intel trying to improve their heatsink
>Make it taller

JUST
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>>52291937
>intelfag can't complain about amd fan anymore
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>>52291937
>stock cooler
people actually use those?
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>>52291937
>Copper heatpipes on stock heatsink
MUH DICK

Here's hoping the fan bearings aren't shit and last a good while.
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>>52291968
I thought they'd given up on stock coolers. Memelake CPUs don't come with one.
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>>52292021
What's wrong?

If you're going for an ultrapoorfag build you can save the heatsink money for a cheap SSD or something else.

I welcome better stock coolers.

>>52292049
Hopefully AMD has gone for a good OEM like Intel does (Delta or Nidec).

>>52292050
>Memelake CPUs don't come with one.
Easy way to shave 10 bucks off the production cost by not bundling one in.
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>>52291937
I honestly didn't mind the stock cooler for my fx6100 as long as you didn't overclock it did the job.
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>>52291937

So..New cooler with a new fan and copper heatpipes throughout.

Massive die shrink with Zen.
New, more efficient architecture.

They certainly could have something going for them here. I'm eager to see.

We got any actual numbers on the cooler, or even the fan?
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>>52292021
If the stock cooler didn't suck ass more people would. AMD's stock coolers sounded like a jet taking off under load
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>>52291968
>don't fix the horrible clip attachments
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>>52292105
>10 bucks

I'd be surprised if that rinky-dink heatsink and fan cost them more than $2 desu senpai.
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>>52292161
If it breaks easily.
Don't fix it.
It means the customer has to spend more money.
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>>52292182
Do they use a solid copper slug?

copper is quite expensive
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>>52292182
More like 20 cents. Considering the low quality of the materials, the cheap design (Push-pin), and the considerable bulk that they are purchased in.
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>intel stock coolers
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>>52292281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eCP5i7e27k

>That was half a decade ago

JUST
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Found article. Even has a demo video.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/cpu_mainboard/amd_have_revealed_their_new_wraith_cpu_stock_cooler/1

As a note in the video. it seems the controller that they are plugging the fans into runs them both up to full RPM. As evidenced by the deafening sound of the now old style stock cooler.
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>>52292308
Also

>Braided cable

These niggas really are going for it.
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>>52292308
>it seems the controller that they are plugging the fans into runs them both up to full RPM.
It's just straight power there's no third or fourth pin for adjusting the speed.
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>>52292206
Depends on the CPU. The ones that come with their K series models use a small copper base. Cheaper chips come with a cheaper cooler that looks the same, but without the copper underneath.
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>>52292363
Hard to say when this is the best angle we get.
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Wraith? I'm guessing the old ones were called Banshee
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>>52292363
I don't get why all fans aren't RPM. RPM fans work on non-RPM jacks just fine and it can't cost more than 2¢ per unit to add that capability.
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>>52291937
I don't fucking care? I'm never going to buy a shitty AMD anyway.

Last AMD I owned was a fucking Barton core, when they are actually competitive when overclocked.

Why would anyone buy an AMD now?
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>>52292479
>Why would anyone buy an AMD now?
8 real cores instead of hyperthreading
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>>52292021
The price of good cooler can be a difference between good and shitty PSU. I'd rather have better PSU and upgrade cooler only after I find it annoying.
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>>52292446
underrated comment
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>>52292532
Be nice if anything was actually optimised to correctly use them.
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>>52292609
Depends. If all you do is gaymen then it probably doesn't matter.
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Do you guys know the RAM clearance height for the Dark Rock Pro 3, I'm using the Z97-A mobo with Corsair Vengence Pro RAM
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>>52292532
>8 real cores instead of hyperthreading
>real cores
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>>52292750
Are you saying hyperthreading isn't something that can only be used if specifically programmed for unlike regular cores?
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>>52292750
If you would care to argue the definition of a core. Then /v/ is really the place for you. Super helpful /g/uys there :^)

A core executes instructions. The FX-8*** series feature 4 modules, each consisting of 2 cores. One core is a typical heavy duty core as we see in every x86 processor. Whereas the other is an Integer Core, more focussed at executing, well, integers. A core is a core. The focus of it does not matter.

>Taking the bait
ain't even mad niggas
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any vids available ?
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>>52292821
See (>>52292308)
>http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/cpu_mainboard/amd_have_revealed_their_new_wraith_cpu_stock_cooler/1
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>>52292677
Anything higher than bare-pcb RAM is discouraged.
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>>52292821
>>52292835
>giving page views/ad revenue to 'tech blogs'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soc5x_4IACQ

Here's the direct link to the video that AMD uploaded.
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>>52292883
>Not running adblock
lel kek
Atleast it's not WCCF. OC3D aren't that bad.
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>>52292050
Only the Ks don't come with one.
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>>52292883
That blue led behind the AMD logo was a very nice design idea. Looks really high quality. wonder if the days of aftermarket air coolers is coming to an end.
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>>52292677
Go for the Dark Rock 3 instead.
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>>52292936
>LED
>indication of quality
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>>52292050
My skymeme came with one and I use it as a drink coaster.
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>>52292944
I have it, but I'm thinking of upgrading the the Pro version.
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>>52292964
clearly I didn't say that at all, but typical of you to pick the words you want to respond to
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>>52292936
>wonder if the days of aftermarket air coolers is coming to an end.
Never.
We've yet to see the impact that this has on thermals. One can assume it will have an impact, but random assumptions only lead to hype that has no reason being there.

Ideally speaking, yes, this will have an impact. It's larger, with a more efficient fan.
But something like this won't make even a 212 Evo redundant. Yet alone higher end air and water coolers.
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>>52292988
It has most of the making of a quality aftermarket air cooler.

copper heat pipes, solid copper core contact point. Also they said this is for the 125W cpus so the higher voltage chips will likely use something even bigger/better
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>>52292677
Vengeance ram wont fit. Dominator won't fit either. With hyperx sticks I get like 4-5 mm of clearance left
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>>52293034
I see now the copper piece has room for 2 more heatpipes there, probably will see the beefier cooler sooner then later for their 125W+ chips.
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>>52293043
Which hyperx, the beast or fury?
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>>52293034
>still using the shitty clips

I hope the new AMD socket will have mounting points built in like LGA 2011, so you can actually screw down the heatsink.
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>>52293034
They probably could have cut back that copper plate a little so it only covers the CPU with no/little overhang. The amount of redundant material there is going to be costly in the long run.

I don't image them shipping out two different stock coolers simply for cost of varying production if anything. God only knows they were in no hurry to replace the piece of shit that they had been using for years. Even on higher end, higher TDP processors. The only thing they really did do was not ship a cooler with the 9570 and 9590.
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>>52293124
>>still using the shitty clips
For backward compatibility with older sockets it would seem.

The clips provide a tight enough contact. It's still a better mounting system than push-pins, but god knows it's not "excellent".
But that's what stock coolers are designed to be right? "Ok, but could be better" It would be awesome to see one that was really well engineered, but then, cost.

Comparing consumer sockets to 2011 isn't exactly fair. Let's be completely honest here. If you're using a 2011 socket CPU(s), you're not going to be whatever shitty cooler has been provided to you.
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>>52293133
The copper plate doesn't look like its that hueg, why mold it with room for 4 heatpipes if you aren't going to use 4 eventually.

AMD said this isn't for their 125w+ chips they could surely just not ship their "enthusiast" models with a stock cooler but I'm betting they're pretty proud of this and will ship a version of it with every new cpu.
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>>52293200
>why mold it with room for 4 heatpipes if you aren't going to use 4 eventually.
Maybe it's just an early run to ship out to reviewers?

I am sceptical that AMD would ship out various coolers. But if they do it would be a really nice touch to show that they care that much about delivering a quality product.
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>using stock coolers
>ever
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>>52293263
>AMD isn’t saying which processors will ship with the Wraith cooler later this year, though the demo model that representatives handed me was housed in a FX-8370 box. Don’t expect to see it on the beefiest FX chips, though. The Wraith cooler is rated for 125W, and AMD reps say that high-end FX chips that suck more energy than that were primarily designed for use with water-cooling systems rather than stock coolers.

AMD labeled AIO Water coolers incoming.
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>>52293283
On a low-mid range CPU that isn't expected to be overclocked there's probably no reason to get a huge ass cooler if the stock one is quiet enough.
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>>52292936
>Looks really high quality
The cooler's design looks similar to the Cooler Master Gemini II design. I'm pretty sure it will perform about the same, if it's not the same or slightly altered version of the Gemini II.
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>>52293322
Intel's been on that game for years now. You think AMD will go back to Asetek after the whole C&D and potential lawsuit Asetek did against them for the Fury X pump block?
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>>52293322
>AMD labeled AIO Water coolers incoming.
Quite possible now that you bring it to mind especially considering their current relationship with the Fury GPUs.

The fact that they are, seemingly, going to start shipping out this new cooler with the Bulldozer CPUs and their relatives is certainly something.

But I still stand by that the model the reviewers have been handed are early runs and yet refined for mass production.

If they indeed have admitted that the higher power chips were meant for water cooling, why bother beefing up an air cooling solution and adding extra heatpipes?
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>>52292783
Hyperthreading doesn't require any special code to take advantage of. It's just there, doing what it does. Even muh childrens' gaymes take advantage of it.
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>>52293445
...No, games have to be specifically written to use hyperthreading

Some games even have it as a toggleable option for that specific reason
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>>52293529
And some of those game fail spectacularly at utilizing HT. That's why I turn HT off at my BIOS menu when I know I won't use any thread-heavy programs other than games.
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>>52293445
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>>52293768
>8120
Oh come on. Atleast use an 8350.
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>>52293788
the 8120 was the only thing micro center had on launch day. I ended up getting a 9590 for $120 in 2014 it ran at 5.2Ghz for a few years. I have a 5830k now, I'm not a fan boy either way i just want a good deal for a good price and that's hard to find with Intel stuff.
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>>52293892
>14.5seconds

Noice.
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>>52293768
>Batch size and reduction not the same
>OpenGL 1.2 vs 2.0
I'm a rabid AMDS fanboy with an APU desktop and an APU laptop but I don't think this comparison is fair.
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>>52293892
>8120 was the only thing micro center had on launch day

Holy shit, how cucked were you when you decided to blow money on a Bulldozer launch chip?
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>>52293768
I would of loved to pick up an 8120e but stuck on a athlon 750k for a little while longer
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>>52293087
Fury
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>>52291937
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>>52293529
I don't think you understand how hyperthreading works. Hyperthreads are presented entirely as normal threads to the OS (you can still get the actual number of cores though). If you don't believe me, try spawning 8 pthreads on an intel quadcore and running your choice of bullshit on them.
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>>52293997
It doesn't make that much difference in speed at this setting. you can look up more of them if you want ,this is fairly normal speed for both cpus. I was just showing that a $120 cpu that's very old was able to to compare to a newer $375 cpu. The worst part is cooling the FX cpu you have to buy a bigger cooler for more money but it was still worth it in the end if you where on a budget.
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>>52292021
Normie's and businesses do, yes.
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>>52292455
Good goy, you're not actually suggesting we waste a good opportunity to make more shekels, are you?!
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Ehm guys, i bought a fx6350 a few months ago and the stock cooler was the one in OP's pic, literally same design and same copper pipes (from what I can see). The one I have IS a jet engine, I hate it.
Tell me if I'm wrong
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>>52294631
The new one looks similar to the old one, but an improved design and apparently quieter

You are wrong
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>>52294631
You are wrong.
The cooler that AMD has shipped for years is pic related.

Hell, even watch the video linked in (>>52292883) for a direct sound comparison.
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>>52294694
>larger fan is quieter
Not surprised. I don't understand why Intel and AMD stuck with sub 92mm fans for their stock coolers for so long.
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>>52294354
That's quicker than the score I get with my 5830k @4.5GHz but still about the same. I hope ZEN forces Intel to compete again and starts making faster chips. I am tired of getting new expensive gen of cpus that are made in new different ways but still the same performance.
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>>52293892
>9590

What kind of behemoth do you have to cool this ?
It'
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>>52292455
First, you're thinking of PMW. Second, $0.02 makes a huge difference in manufacturing.
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>>52294849
It would probably take a 360 push and pull config I have a liquid cooling system that I build into my house sorta like what LinusTechTips did but mine is 10 years old and I managed to not fuck mine up ever. The waterblock I used was a EK supreme gold plated. I wont lie it made lots of heat
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>>52293529
You're a fucking retard, fella.
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why is this thread even still alive
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Im a pleb and i like it
sounds quiet enough that i dont need to spend 20-30$ on an extra cooler
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>>52292964
If use properly
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>>52293788
>4810 mhz
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>>52293570
Nice autism
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>>52292182
Shiipings would be at least 50c
AMD sent me a whole new sync when I rma'd. Prolly cost them ¢5 to ship
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Its just a slightly larger version of the stock cooler they've been using since AM3, and it has a bigger low RPM fan on it. Its not great, but its not terrible either, at least it'll be real competition to other low profile coolers on the market.

Bristol Ridge/Summit Ridge/Raven Ridge will probably ship with these.
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>>52293200
Because they're not mould but machined.
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>>52293892
Pics? Sounds comfy
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>>52292021
This. Even the cheapest ~10-15$ aftermarket coolers do a better job and quieter.
Bought a 10$ one for my old ass Pentium 4 D, it works like magic.

Stock cooler sucks on both AMD, Intel, and on any platform. It sucked since forever.
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>>52292883
Honestly, the cooler that came with the Phenom 1100T sounds the same on full load.. (like the "Wraith")
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>>52292302
that is the most useless video i've ever seen
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>>52292479
Overclocked fx 6300 BTFOs a haswell i3 and gets really close to an i5 3470.
Pic related, shows just how competitive AMD can be in well threaded games and applications.
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>>52292021

Yes. I swap my Noctua out for the stock one during winter to avoid unnecessary wear and tear.
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>>52291958
This, I love hearing my fans as if I'm in a server room. Makes me feel 1337.
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