>you still haven't installed telegram
>you use whatsapp like some kind of technologically impaired pleb
try and fail to justify your choice
that app actually looks cool
to bad literally everyone I know in IRL (and from g) already uses telegram and theres no way I could convince all my normie friends to get ANOTHER messaging app.
If you have friends and your friends love you, they will start using it. Sure, at first it will only be with you, but they will show it to their friends and so on. Slowly (given that the app is actually good), it will start gaining popularity. If you have friends, that is.
>nobody can see what youre doing
>not a social network
>the most god-tier UI and UX ive ever seen in my life
>god-tier for uploading massive files. they dont delete it and it gets uploaded on their servers . not a p2p file uploading like other shit messengers
>thousands of channels and chat rooms
>you can use it to fuck bitchez
HOLY FUCK YOU FAGS ARE PLEB AS FUCK. TELEGRAM IS THE FUTURE OF ANONYMITY
fuck off you never used it faggot. its completely anonymous and even you can have secret chats where every message gets deleted after delivery. this software is revolutionary now fuck off shill.
So let's get this straight:
Telegram uses their own crypto which has been broken to hell and back yet they claim their crypto is infallible. Their closed source implementation of their crypto makes it impossible to audit the entire system.
Whatsapp uses proven crypto libraries that have been audited by professionals and deemed good enough to secure your information.
Don't get this wrong, I'm using Telegram because I despise facebook and whatsapp. But please don't delude yourself with some bullshit about how telegram is the safest messenger on earth, because it isn't.
I also use Signal in addition to Telegram.
>is not p2p
>works with servers you don't own
>you have to register
>is somehow anonymous
You might want to rethink your definition of being anonymous.
>you have to register
lol wtf you dumb faggot? all you need is a disposable sim card and it doesnt need a username and password. how about you try it instead of spreading bullshit faggot?
Been using it since it was released. But ok.
Yes of course, if you use a burner sim then you have one way of staying anonymous.
Still, all unencrypted messages and group chats are stored on servers you don't own so it's only a matter of time, even with a burner sim, until someone could identify you.
Do you know who is the owner of that software? The guy who founded and coded VK.com putin asked him to hand out their userbase information and he refused and had to take all the server out of russia because of that he also said Iran asked for user info and he told to fuck off
yeah, because telegram's server software is FOSS.
fug off faggot.
all of you faggots are dumb as shit and should be killed off.
ICQ was shit then and it's still shit now.
Jesus fucking Christ /g/
>Whatsapp uses proven crypto libraries that have been audited by professionals and deemed good enough to secure your information.
Yeah but as they're closed they can't actually prove that they use what the auditors audited.
>depends on proprietary software
I don't understand why there isn't a fucking lynchmob after that slime moxie who doesn't even see this as a problem. Wanker.
because normies don't want to miss the "Feglet is typing..." indicator to know the other person is writing.
normies in general are to blame for the fuckload of IM clients that can't be arsed to use XMPP or similar stuff because it's too hard to set up or some shit.
normies should be banned from technology.
fuck normies. fuck them.
its just so fucking comfy especially for file sharing. drag n drop massive files, sharing voice is fucking amazing it has a built-in media player nigga you just have to use it to see it
telegram is for robots
>username is not needed (you can make one though)
>not a social network
>nobody sees what youre doing
>NO STUPID STATUS
>no fucking update and attentionwhoring
>no facebook style walls
this is the ultimate robot software. better than all its not p2p so nobody can resolve your ip like fucking skype
>still too socially retarded to just phone someone you need to talk to.
Yeah. I just use the fucking phone on my phone anon. Far more efficient way to discuss things than faffing around with some chat app.
>nobody can resolve your ip
>MUH IP IS SECURE MEME
Oh yeah? Let's see.
>set up a file on a webserver you have access to
>send link to said file to target
>monitor log on webserver
>you have an IP
Oh, look: it's this thread again.
Hello again, Telegram shill. Pavel Durov must be paying you all well for the amount of PR that dreadful chat app gets.
I forgot to save my pasta last time, so I'll repost this fresh pasta as reasons why you should not use Telegram, and why you should use Signal instead for a phone messenger. Please repost this for the next time you see this thread.
https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/678065993587945472 - Despite saying it does, Telegram usually doesn't even use encryption, which is terrible.
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/582245625103826944 - If you are using 'secret chats', which are the only circumstances in which Telegram does tries to use encryption, the 'MTProto' protocol it uses is so poorly-designed, it drives respected cryptographers to make GLaDoS cake analogies.
https://twitter.com/snowden/status/661313394906161152 - Snowden recommends Signal.
Is Signal perfect for everything? Certainly not. It's a phone messenger, competing with Telegram, Threema, WhatsApp, Viber, Kik, etc . It uses competently-designed, IND-CCA2, well-reviewed, state-of-the-art forward-secure end-to-end encryption designed by Trevor Perrin, who (unlike the bozos behind Telegram) actually knows his shit. But unlike all of its competitors, Signal is completely open-source (not just the client, but the server too) and will always be free. It does use Google Cloud Messaging (you don't have to have gapps but it helps, there are some unfixed bugs that still rely on it for calls) to wake phones (but not to deliver messages) - however, that is actually the only supported wakelock method in Android 6.x.
The desktop client (in beta) works, but unfortunately needs Google Chrome and a linked phone (after all, it's a phone messenger). Finally, Signal doesn't protect metadata - secure metadata-protecting communication in the presence of global attackers is still an open research problem, with Ricochet and Tor Messenger currently practical.
>implying I use applicatoins like whatsapp or telegram at all
I've tried both.
they are both fucking shit compared to IRC and both require a fucking telephone to even register.
the only positive with Telegram is I can fucking use VOIP numbers like Google Voice to register so I can at least have bots and shit for Telegram without buying a new number/SIM.
I wish I could.
fucking foreign friends are cancer.
I bought a Nexus 7 for all these DESIGNATED bullshit apps
I use it daily and recommend it to my friends but you're fucking retarded if you think it's safe you uneducated illiterate, there's a faggot indeed between the two of us but that's not me. Fucking inform yourself and don't insult others prior to even learning about what you're shilling you degenerate
Yes works. You have to get the version that uses websockets if you don't have gapps.
The nogapps version also drains your battery like a mofo. Pic related.
Hello, this is somewhat related. I've been using a cross-platform application called 'Two-way' which acts as a Walkie-Talkie. It's so fucking simple. The app is free. You type in a channel between 000000 and 999999 and talk to whoever is on the other side. Would anyone like to talk IRL? I'll be on channel 757575 three hours from now if anybody wants to chat for a bit. I was talking to several 4chan users the past two days. It's not open-source software though.
I swear to God I'm not the developer. Several others have accused me of that. They only think that because I actually give a shit about presentation in my post. To earn your trust, I have to put in a few grammer mistakes.
there is this app for iphone android called Twoway. talk to me on 757575!
This... I only have one friend that uses Skype. Others use Facebook Messenger. And I use Disa, with Facebook plugin. I wish I could convert my friend who uses Skype to Jitsi and others to Signal.