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>2016
>you still haven't installed telegram
>you use whatsapp like some kind of technologically impaired pleb

try and fail to justify your choice
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Sorry, I actually have friends and a life.
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Summer? At this time of year? It must be a Signal.
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>>52290569
I've installed signal.
Thanks Moxie Marlonspike.
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>changing one botnet for another one with users
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I use SMS. Free (both in cost and in having libre implementations), portable, just works.
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>2016
>use a retarded chatapp that helps spreading non-rare pepes and otherkind of pleb-memes
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>>52290376
>>52290569
>using botnet shit that requires your phone number and/or google services to work
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nice b8 suckerberg hater
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>>52290376
Threma > telegram
-10 terrorist points
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>mfw using telegram
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>>52290932
Threema > Threma
+10 grammarnazi points
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>>52290932
that app actually looks cool

to bad literally everyone I know in IRL (and from g) already uses telegram and theres no way I could convince all my normie friends to get ANOTHER messaging app.
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because what's the point if no one else uses it.
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>>52291104
Amateur terrorist problems. Tell your fellow alis to upgrade
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>>52291138
If you have friends and your friends love you, they will start using it. Sure, at first it will only be with you, but they will show it to their friends and so on. Slowly (given that the app is actually good), it will start gaining popularity. If you have friends, that is.
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>>52291058
-10 grammar points if anything
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>>52290932
>>52291104
telegram is open source, while you just have to believe the developers of threema the app is safe

>>52291138
stupid argument
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>>52291222
trips of truth have spoken
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>>52290569
But isn't Signal for SMS only?
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>>52291043
>mfw you write me on telegram
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If you have any telegram groups /g/ or chanu telegram groups add me to it
@StupidSexyHairyVirgin
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>completely anonymous
>nobody can see what youre doing
>not a social network
>the most god-tier UI and UX ive ever seen in my life
>god-tier for uploading massive files. they dont delete it and it gets uploaded on their servers . not a p2p file uploading like other shit messengers
>not p2p
>thousands of channels and chat rooms
>you can use it to fuck bitchez

HOLY FUCK YOU FAGS ARE PLEB AS FUCK. TELEGRAM IS THE FUTURE OF ANONYMITY
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Is there any g groups on telegram?
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Because girls use Whatsapp and so do my bandmembers.

Checkmate
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>>52291575
You don't receive you lose. Check mate
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>>52291600
Don't receive what, sorry?
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>>52290376
I use Signal.
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>2016
>not using Signal
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Whatsapp has the better logo
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>>52291323
Not really, security-wise it's pretty bad, the features are worth it though
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>>52291104
same with signal for me rip
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>>52291822

fuck off you never used it faggot. its completely anonymous and even you can have secret chats where every message gets deleted after delivery. this software is revolutionary now fuck off shill.
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>>52290662
That would be kik
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They're the same. The only difference is one has users.
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>>52290376
So let's get this straight:
Telegram uses their own crypto which has been broken to hell and back yet they claim their crypto is infallible. Their closed source implementation of their crypto makes it impossible to audit the entire system.
Whatsapp uses proven crypto libraries that have been audited by professionals and deemed good enough to secure your information.

Don't get this wrong, I'm using Telegram because I despise facebook and whatsapp. But please don't delude yourself with some bullshit about how telegram is the safest messenger on earth, because it isn't.
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>>52291985
Signal, bro
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>>52291243
Nigger read up. It's the opposite.
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>>52290376
Signal is the only viable option here m8
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>>52291998
I also use Signal in addition to Telegram.

>>52291323
>is not p2p
>works with servers you don't own
>you have to register
>is somehow anonymous
You might want to rethink your definition of being anonymous.
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I'd use Signal, but many of my friends have windows phones and Signal has no app for those.

So RIP
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because everybody here is using whatsapp

fucking idiot
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>>52292068

>you have to register

lol wtf you dumb faggot? all you need is a disposable sim card and it doesnt need a username and password. how about you try it instead of spreading bullshit faggot?
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>>52292119
>try it
Been using it since it was released. But ok.
Yes of course, if you use a burner sim then you have one way of staying anonymous.
Still, all unencrypted messages and group chats are stored on servers you don't own so it's only a matter of time, even with a burner sim, until someone could identify you.
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>>52292198

Do you know who is the owner of that software? The guy who founded and coded VK.com putin asked him to hand out their userbase information and he refused and had to take all the server out of russia because of that he also said Iran asked for user info and he told to fuck off
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>>52290376
both are shit

PGP actually works and is also actually secure unlike Whatshit and telegay
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>>52292233
I know. When it comes to publicity they don't leave a single opportunity to shine like badass motherfuckers.
Still. Never trust servers you don't own. Ever.
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because nobody fucking uses it. I installed it to see what it was like and the only friend I had that used it is just as autistic as you fucks.
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>>52292330

>burgerclap detected
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>>52290932
>proprietary software
fuck off schlomo
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so wait.

how is this better than email/sms/irc again?
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>>52292347
yeah, because telegram's server software is FOSS.

fug off faggot.

all of you faggots are dumb as shit and should be killed off.

ICQ was shit then and it's still shit now.
Jesus fucking Christ /g/
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>>52291985
>Whatsapp uses proven crypto libraries that have been audited by professionals and deemed good enough to secure your information.
Yeah but as they're closed they can't actually prove that they use what the auditors audited.

>>52291998
>depends on proprietary software
>valid option

I don't understand why there isn't a fucking lynchmob after that slime moxie who doesn't even see this as a problem. Wanker.
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>>52292353
because normies don't want to miss the "Feglet is typing..." indicator to know the other person is writing.
normies in general are to blame for the fuckload of IM clients that can't be arsed to use XMPP or similar stuff because it's too hard to set up or some shit.
normies should be banned from technology.
fuck normies. fuck them.
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>>52292353

its just so fucking comfy especially for file sharing. drag n drop massive files, sharing voice is fucking amazing it has a built-in media player nigga you just have to use it to see it
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>>52292077
>having friends who use Windows Phone
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>>52292376
Doesn't mean I was promoting Telegram. Just pointing out that Signal isn't an option.
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>>52290376
who the fuck am I gonna talk to on telegram besides ISIS?
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>>52292390
>thinks social technology should revolve around autistic people who use bulgarian throat singing boards.
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>>52292390

telegram is for robots

>anon
>username is not needed (you can make one though)
>not a social network
>nobody sees what youre doing
>NO STUPID STATUS
>no fucking update and attentionwhoring
>no facebook style walls

this is the ultimate robot software. better than all its not p2p so nobody can resolve your ip like fucking skype
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>>52290376
I use SMS and email like any other adult.
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what is this 16 year old girl silicon valley hipster bulshit

who actually gives a fuck about mobile apps? are you a 12 year old? text people like normal grown ass adults.
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>>52290376
>2016
>still too socially retarded to just phone someone you need to talk to.

Yeah. I just use the fucking phone on my phone anon. Far more efficient way to discuss things than faffing around with some chat app.
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>>52292422
>nobody can resolve your ip
>MUH IP IS SECURE MEME
Oh yeah? Let's see.
>set up a file on a webserver you have access to
>send link to said file to target
>monitor log on webserver
>you have an IP

You mongs.
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>>52292424

i use it on my pc. the pc version is god-tier, pleb scum. i dont have a smart phone.
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>>52292391
all of which you can do via IRC?

fucking children I swear to fucking god
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>>52292463

>clicking on links sent through chat

is it 2003 again?
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>>52292490

>IRC
>sharing over 4 gigabytes files

you must be extremely dumb
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>>52292425
Telegram is more for sharing links, pictures, etc.
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>>52292494
Give it a try. You'd be surprised how many faggots still click every bullshit link just because it was sent through some app.
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>>52292519

>comparing your granny to a /g/ god

gtfo nigger
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>>52292544
Sure mate. Whatever let's you sleep at night.
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>>52292511
kek

you clearly don't know shit about IRC because you're a dumb 12 year old /v/ pleb
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>>52292490
>all of which you can do via IRC?

Yes, It's basically just a nicer alternative to IRC.
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>>52292554

ive been using IRC since 15 yeards ago and im 32 now. you stupid nigger can download 4 gig files from IRC with 5 megabytes per second speed? fuck off millenial scum.
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>>52292581
bullshit

if that were true, you would realize how shit WhatsGay and Telegram are then compared to it.
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>>52292600
IRC is superior to WhatsApp and Telegram
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>>52292490
>>52292600
Try Telegram dude, you're not on familiar grounds here
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>>52291224
>stupid argument
No, it's not. It's a real concern.
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>>52292739
maybe but you can actually do something against it
if the software is simply inferior, thats when you should be concerned
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>>52292652
well duh
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Oh, look: it's this thread again.

>>52290376
Hello again, Telegram shill. Pavel Durov must be paying you all well for the amount of PR that dreadful chat app gets.

I forgot to save my pasta last time, so I'll repost this fresh pasta as reasons why you should not use Telegram, and why you should use Signal instead for a phone messenger. Please repost this for the next time you see this thread.

https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/678065993587945472 - Despite saying it does, Telegram usually doesn't even use encryption, which is terrible.
https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/582245625103826944 - If you are using 'secret chats', which are the only circumstances in which Telegram does tries to use encryption, the 'MTProto' protocol it uses is so poorly-designed, it drives respected cryptographers to make GLaDoS cake analogies.
https://twitter.com/snowden/status/661313394906161152 - Snowden recommends Signal.

Is Signal perfect for everything? Certainly not. It's a phone messenger, competing with Telegram, Threema, WhatsApp, Viber, Kik, etc . It uses competently-designed, IND-CCA2, well-reviewed, state-of-the-art forward-secure end-to-end encryption designed by Trevor Perrin, who (unlike the bozos behind Telegram) actually knows his shit. But unlike all of its competitors, Signal is completely open-source (not just the client, but the server too) and will always be free. It does use Google Cloud Messaging (you don't have to have gapps but it helps, there are some unfixed bugs that still rely on it for calls) to wake phones (but not to deliver messages) - however, that is actually the only supported wakelock method in Android 6.x.

The desktop client (in beta) works, but unfortunately needs Google Chrome and a linked phone (after all, it's a phone messenger). Finally, Signal doesn't protect metadata - secure metadata-protecting communication in the presence of global attackers is still an open research problem, with Ricochet and Tor Messenger currently practical.
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>>52291761
this desu senpai
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>>52292652
It would be extremely inconvenientl
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>>52290376
>implying I use applicatoins like whatsapp or telegram at all
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>>52293091
*applications
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>>52292658
I've tried both.
they are both fucking shit compared to IRC and both require a fucking telephone to even register.

the only positive with Telegram is I can fucking use VOIP numbers like Google Voice to register so I can at least have bots and shit for Telegram without buying a new number/SIM.

>>52293091
I wish I could.

fucking foreign friends are cancer.

I bought a Nexus 7 for all these DESIGNATED bullshit apps
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Has anyone tried libresignal? Does registration work?

https://github.com/xmikos/fdroiddata
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>>52292962

>Snowden recommends

does this website look like reddit to you, sir?
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>>52292077
>but many of my friends have windows phones and Signal has no app for those.

B8
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>>52293162

>both require a fucking telephone to even register.

im using telgeram on my pc i dont even have a smartphone
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>>52291848
I use it daily and recommend it to my friends but you're fucking retarded if you think it's safe you uneducated illiterate, there's a faggot indeed between the two of us but that's not me. Fucking inform yourself and don't insult others prior to even learning about what you're shilling you degenerate
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No friends use Telegram

All my friend use Whatsapp. Even the Iphone owners use Whatsapp

Give me one reason why I should use an app that I can't message anyone I know with
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>>52291224
Threema had an audit recently and it is indeed secure. But I get what you are saying.
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I actually don't use neither.
I use Google Hangouts.
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>>52290376
>not just using kik
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>>52293201
Yes works. You have to get the version that uses websockets if you don't have gapps.
The nogapps version also drains your battery like a mofo. Pic related.
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>>52290376
i have no one to talk to
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>>52293425
Ok. I don't have GAPPS, so I can't use the one from the https://eutopia.cz/fdroid/ repo ?
Is that the JavaJens fork?
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>>52290376
what are google hangouts and whatsapp for anyway? i just use fb messenger for normie friends and stock phone/sms app for everyday calls, what's the big deal?
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>>52293497
https://eutopia.cz/experimental/fdroid/repo

That's the repository I'm using for my gappless phone.
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Hello, this is somewhat related. I've been using a cross-platform application called 'Two-way' which acts as a Walkie-Talkie. It's so fucking simple. The app is free. You type in a channel between 000000 and 999999 and talk to whoever is on the other side. Would anyone like to talk IRL? I'll be on channel 757575 three hours from now if anybody wants to chat for a bit. I was talking to several 4chan users the past two days. It's not open-source software though.


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.selvaraj.twoway.android&hl=en
http://www.1mobile.com/two-way-walkie-talkie-2355827.html
https://itunes.apple.com/ie/app/two-way-walkie-talkie/id595560554?mt=8
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>>52293425
>>52293497
Oh the one with websocket support is the experimental one, right?
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>>52293545
Thanks
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>>52293249
I'm aware you can use telegram in that capacity but you still need some kind of number.
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>>52293546
Get your advertisement somewhere else.
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I installed it more than once but couldn't figure out how to use it.

When you don't know anybody else already on it, it makes it difficult to test it out.
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>>52291848
>here every message gets deleted after delivery

lol
dying right now.

how do you enforce that you fucking dipshit?
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>>52293546
>It's not open-source software though.

then fuck off faggot.
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>>52293606
I swear to God I'm not the developer. Several others have accused me of that. They only think that because I actually give a shit about presentation in my post. To earn your trust, I have to put in a few grammer mistakes.

hey /gee/

there is this app for iphone android called Twoway. talk to me on 757575!
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>>52293651
I wanted to mention it here because I've been using it a lot the past two days, love it, and offer it here to promote discussion. I would prefer an open-source alternative.
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>>52292390
XMPP is shit anon
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>>52291761
This. The gapps argument doesn't stick with proper end-to-end crypto.
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>>52292423
/thread
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>>52292294
>Never trust servers you don't own. Ever
I get the whole don't share personal details on the internet thing but you seem a bit too worried about a factual non-issue m8
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Plz i cant even get my friends to leave Skype.
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>>52292294
*never trust servers.
Here, fixed that for you.
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>>52294497
This... I only have one friend that uses Skype. Others use Facebook Messenger. And I use Disa, with Facebook plugin. I wish I could convert my friend who uses Skype to Jitsi and others to Signal.
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>>52290545
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Well, telegram is so fucking superior to whatsapp... :/
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>>52290376
>Acting like it's easy to convert people to a software that no one has heard of except a small minority
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>social media

cancer no matter how you slice it.
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>>52290376
CURRENT YEAR
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>>52290376
>2016
>Using a mobile phone to telegram.
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Telegram is shit because they dumbed down the logo.
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>>52294497
Provide a mumble server for them / show them tox.
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my wife and I use telegram all the time.

>inb4 /pol/-cucks
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>>52295030
>not using a mobile telephone for telegrams
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