Arch is the best Linux Distro ever made, prove me wrong

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>>52238922
Bait: The Thread [spoiler] good doubles btw!

>>52238922
cant desu

Oh helped my wife's son install arch on his computer after he saw me using it in my shed. We both love it and the wife is happy

>>52238922
Sorry, I'm too busy using an actual UNIX.

My wife's boyfriend uses this distro, but I'm a debian guy myself. I seriously think he should grow up and use a real operating system instead of some toy OS, but it's his loss really. My lady doesn't agree, but like a famous person once said, "I think the lady protest too much" LoL.

You're not wrong

>Best repos
>Best documentation
>Most knowledgable community
>Most flexible
>Closest to upstream
>Best package manager

Whatever's good about Linux, is best in Arch.

>>52239119
>>52239176
Nice meme

My wife's bull Tyrone uses Ubuntu on his laptop. I was in my Cuck shed in the backyard while they were having sex (not allowed in the house when they're making love).

Me and Tyrone's son love to watch movies in there.

>>52238922
My Gentoo using step-son was having trouble with the ladies until I took him under my wing and showed him the Arch way. Now he's banging white chicks e'ry day, just like his new dad.

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>>52238922
It's the best distro as a secondary OS. As a primary Debian LTS / Xubuntu minimal LTS are the best.
apt is shit btw

My gf's husband told me about it. He says NASA will drop Ubuntu for it any day now

can someone link the timesink OSes?

>>52238922
>Systemd
yeah no.

i'll fully switch over to void, runit is awesome.
I'll miss the AUR tough.

>>52239297
>Debian LTS/ XUbuntu
>as primary os
>apt is shit

Then why the fuck are you using something with apt.

Far and away has the best documentation. But I don't use Arch personally. Not a bad OS though.

>>52239460
Because I am experienced enough to handle apt. pacman is too easy though

>>52239411
>being autistic enough to have any problem with systemd... Smfh famila

>>52239297
lol seeing this picture makes me realize how much i love using Arch over Ubuntu, pacman master race.

Once you get a full time job, once you have to share screen/presentation Arch is no longer reliable, to be quite honest. I moved to Xubuntu because I just cannot afford random package breakage due to un-reviewed updates.
Arch wiki is really nice but the developers are autistic and force the unstable, unsecured AUR onto their userbase
The only thing that bothers me with Xubuntu is the number of retarded indians that infested the Linux community

>>52239511
i don't like it when sofware does too many things it isn't supposed to do.
And i have the freedom of choice to choose something different (and in addition, imo better than arch despite of systemd)

>>52239686
welcome, memer

>>52239686
Nice meme. Mad because you can't install Arch? Reading too hard for you, huh?

>>52239677
You really come off as a stupid faggot.

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Arch is the #1 choice for serious business.

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>>52239710
It's not even about reading nowadays

>>52239733
i contribute to op's request to name a better distro than arch, which is subjective in the first place.

also i'm an oldfag, i have to come off like a faggot.

>>52239786
So then why don't you use it? You also realize that the whole "I just pacman -Syu'd and my install broke" is just a meme right? That doesn't happen unless you're a retard.

>>52239789
I seriously doubt you have been here since 2005 you are not an oldfag

>>52239844
no, since 2004, oct

>>52239844
I thought that neo-oldfag territory is 2011-2012

>>52239670
>AUR
>Forced

No one is forcing you to install off AUR. Don't choose shitty packages if you don't want them to break.

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What does Arch bring to the table?

Debian has a minimal install option, is committed to freedom, has an awesome package manager, has tons of packages available, and has multiple release tracks that allow one to stay cutting edge should one wish.

RedHat is commercially supported.

CentOS is the free version of RedHat.

SLES is commercially supported, with a deal with Microsoft to interoperate.

Ubuntu is Debian made easier.

Gentoo is for people who like to recompile software for their hardware.

I get all of the above distros. I don't run them all myself -- especially not gentoo -- but I understand why some people do.

What's the point of Arch? I poked at the website and wikipedia pages, but don't see an explanation of what it gives you over, say, a base Debian install.

Note: this is not intended as a troll. I'm curious as to what Arch brought to the table. Why was it introduced? I'm sure there's an answer, just curious what.

I tend to have less trouble with my arch install than I've ever had with any other OS. Ubuntu breaks every 6 months, Windows is like a loaf of bread, you can't keep fresh, Debian has retarded repos and PPAs are annoying as fuck to keep synchronized.

I'd give up a lot just to keep AUR given the alternatives.

>>52239904
Arch is literally all of those combined.

>>52239904
basicly a "build you OS yourself from ground up" thing
with a lot of focus on the KISS principle

>>52239904
Very up to date packages, minimal modification of packages from what comes upstream. Once you've set up your arch system, everything is extremely simple to maintain and administer (most other distros seem to come with idiotic default behaviours that are annoying or get in the way).

Ultimately, any Linux distro can be as much like any other as it wants to be, but Arch is by far the simplest baseline to work from to get to where you want if you're the kind of enthusiast who likes to tinker and do custom stuff.

>>52239343

>gf's husband

>>52239955
>likes to tinker and do custom stuff.
Just as possible with Debian.
>>52239952
>build you OS yourself from ground up
Debian (debootstrap), Gentoo, LFS

>>52239997
Arch. Is. Better.....

>>52240012
In what way?

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OP is right, guys.
ArchLinux is best linux.

>>52239997
Debian's repos are complete ass though, out of date (even testing) and lacking a lot of common software for no good reason. Debian has nothing as good as the AUR, and apt is a pig disgusting package manager compared with pacman. Just comparing the time consumed and usefulness of the output of a pacman -Syu versus an apt-get upgrade will tell you that.

>>52240053
>even testing
Unstable is Debian's equivalent to Arch

>>52239869
Not to us real oldfags.

>>52239297
As a winfag who's only remotely familiar with Linux from various school VMs, what's the difference between the two installs other than the fact that the apt output is more verbose?

>>52240032
it just is.

cause it fuckin awesome

Arch powers 70% of all servers.
Don't you wonder why?

>>52240070
That's what I meant, yeah. I tried it out for a while, but the versions for many packages were several point releases behind upstream. In some cases, years behind, broken ass versions of things.

>>52240075
but to Redditors it is

>>52240129
Name a few examples.

>>52240119
Kek source?

>>52240177
It just is.

>>52240141
OK, this was a long time ago, but I remember a snes emulator, snes9x I think that was hanging around their official repos in a non-working state on an old version, even unstable. The reason I finally dropped it was when they took ages to push a new mesa version that opened up important features in my graphics card. Arch testing had it within a few days and it worked perfectly well.

>>52239297
>ausposter
Got me again!™

>>52238922
>>52239297
The terminal in Arch looks really gloomy

>>52240256
Kek, it's just either a default theme it comes with from devs, or else something the user set himself. Talking about theme and colourschemes with a distro like arch is missing the point entirely. Like that tool from Distrowatch who reviewed it by installing KDE and complaining about what KDE's defaults are. Arch is arch, a blank canvas with some fantastic tools to help you draw your own OS onto it.

Arch is totally fine if you're not a complete fucking idiot. Simple as that.

>>52240858
what do you mean

what would make me an idiot? Installing things via AUR willy nilly?

>>52239670
>number of retarded indians that infested the Linux community
What did xhe mean by this?

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>>52239670
indians are everywhere m8 even in the Arch community. At least we don't have wananbe hackers who just saw Mr Robot, right?

>>52239818
didn't it just happen with Xorg 1.18?

>>52239670
>Implying indians did not infest Arch
http://www.linuxb.in/2012/04/installing-arch-linux-base-system.html

>>52241281
I couldn't be bothered to read through the intall guide, but what's the problem?

So what if an Indian uses Arhc? I think you're just being racist.

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>>52241353
Sorry, rajesh. I forgot your kind are here as well

>>52241353
>So what if an Indian uses Arhc
Destroying Ubuntu community wasn't enough for you guys?

>>52241389
>Arch community
>not shit
pick one

>>52241408
Arch community > 50 feet pile of shit > Ubuntu community
There is no counter argument

>>52241373
>>52241389
I'm white.

I'm new to linux. What is involved in maintaining arch linux? If you use a file manager minimally + surf 4chan then would it ever break?

>>52241429
true, still the arch community is a buch of leet haxx0r script kiddie wannabe's

>>52240100
pacman offers optional dependencies for different situations or options, and was more likely to actually resolve the real dependencies without fucking up like apt.

>>52239670
>not knowing what a lts kernel and repo is

My laptop is ten kinds of fucked and is from 2005. Crunchbang++ makes it fly and never, ever crashes. Just sayin.

>>52241466
Forum moderators are actually responsible for this (indirectly)

>>52239904
apt is pretty awful after using pacman.

>>52239904
Didnt look hard on the wiki did you faggot?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_compared_to_other_distributions

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>>52239204
whats with the community meme? I use arch daily since my laptop is too shit to run windows above 5fps but every time I've had a problem which lead me to the community forum the thread always go's similar to the following:

>OP: "oh hai guies i have problem x, pls fix xD"
>#1: *requests more details*
>OP: *gives more details*
>Several days/weeks/months pass
>OP: "nvm fix'd it, now i'll quickly outline the fix I used in as little detail as possible, omitting actual values where possible"

i mean props to the OP for actually replying with _something_, but I'm yet to have a case where someone actually provides a fix on the forum.

>>52241484
#! is dead i thought

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>>52238922
> Propietary software
> Not using GNU's curated Arch, Parabola
It's like you enjoy NSA on your back door

>>52241623'
>i'm yet to have a case where someone actually provides a fix on the forum.
So try and im guilty of it my self.Even made the mistake of posting to the mailing list.I didnt post why because fuck the community,they didnt help me fuck them.They can figure it out them selves,or one of the non-mod in-every-thread know it alls pipe in.Funny when shit hits the fan they never post

>>52241720
Enjoy no device drivers

I'm an arch user and it really goes well with any of my work than Debian which I used before Arch.

One thing bother me though, I can't do auto mount in arch

>>52241746
Works on my machine.
Enjoy nonfree device drivers.

>>52241792
Nice thinkpad, lad. What model? and specs? I am curious

>>52238922

I like the autists maintaining their wiki, won't use the distro though.

>>52241823
Not a laptop.

>bleeding edge
>ever
https://www.archlinux.org/news/data-corruption-on-software-raid-0-when-discard-is-used/

>>52239207
*Tyrone's son and I

>>52242042
Arch cant control upstream bugs

>>52242042
>already fixed in 4.0.4

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>>52238922

>>52239485
But you said apt is shit.

>>52242153
> it is likely that data corruption has already occurred on systems running the aforementioned kernels

>>52242179
I also said I can manage

>>52239130
if you think osx is actual unix then kill yourself faggot.

>>52241445
If that's all you do you're fine.

>>52239869
Holy shit has it been that long that's considered old now?

>>52242464
Yep, I'm considered a seasoned 4chan veteran now.

>>52242464
>>52242480
FUCK NO
Oldfag is 2005-2007 BEFORE chanology.
anything after 2008 is newfag

>>52242556
Phew, made it by just under a year then.

>>52240256
I like it that way
>>52240237
AYY m8

>>52241155
>xhe
kek'd

>>52238922
Yeah... There is one distro that matches everyones needs... Grow up kid

>>52239130
>actual UNIX
So, your using a primitive research kernel from 1978?

I'm doing a fresh install on a brand new SSD, should I keep Arch or try out Slackware?

>>52243992
Try something new you can still go back to arch

>>52239670
>force
>AUR
and here we see a person who has never used arch for more than 30m.

>>52241247
nothing happened here sir.

>>52238922
It takes 10 mins to install Arch with choice of DE. It is an overhyped distro which looks and feels like shit. Couldn't be bothered to rice my Arch install, I just removed the partition.

Next project: Gentoo

>>52244111
Kill yourself

I agree, unfortunately this is a bait thread and you probably don't actually feel that way.

Arch is basically just Debian with fresher packages and less breakage. I'm surprised so many people get scared away from it by the installer and end up never trying it for real.

Anyone who was putting it off, try out Architect to install it.

>>52244158
Architect is actually harder to use because it's a buggy mess

Honestly, if peple can't read a wiki with clear instructions, they don't deserve to use arch.

>>52238922
You are wrong, OP, Because the kernel of arch isn't a free software and many other softwares which is provided by main repo also aren't free software. See:

http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html#Arch

>>52244176
That's not even slightly true, so I'm not sure how you can say that without feeling guilty.

>>52244158
Installation is not the issue anymore. AUR and pacman suck balls. I had a hard time locating any software and packages. Google search leads to Arch Wiki with links for packages that don't work. Arch does not have a default archive manager and it frustrated the fuck out me having to work with Ark as it was the only one available int he repos.

Fuck AUR, I rather use apt and PPA, at least Google covers it widely and I have never run into a dead end.

>>52244196
Lmao f a m xD

>>52244188
Fuck off, GNU/Shill

>>52238922
>Pro tip: You can't

>>>/b/ tier thread reported

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>>52244230

>>52244196
>I had a hard time locating any software and packages
yaourt -Ss
>Arch does not have a default archive manager
Arch doesn't really have much defaults.
In the repos you'll find e.g. xarchiver or file-roller for archives.

>>52244230
you first faggot.

Arch Linux's repos are a shitshow.
even the other problematic distros at least segregate their nonfree garbage in it's own repo.

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>>52244400

>>52241508
Not that anon but so much hate, I don't know why I lol'd.

>>52244196
I think you just need yaourt senpai

>>52244188
> Reading anything on gnu.org
> Not managing not to read it in that hideous voice of rsm...

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>>52242556
>being in denial of 2003 - 2004

>>52242159
Kek

>>52245022
I cannot understand that the relation between the voice of rms and the articles on gnu.org.
Just be calm and read what you matters, anon.

>>52238922
crux is better than arch
gentoo and slackware are the best

>>52245061
>tfw winter 2011

>>52245135
>tfw right as 2007 started
FUCK

>>52245061
>tfw no matter how long I'll stay here I will never become oldfag
>tfw here since 2008

>>52244099
Not everyone shares the same model of hardware with you, sir

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>>52238922
>it's not gentoo
done.

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>>52244196
I hope you are baiting
>pacman is shit ( see >>52239297 )
>apt is not
>what is aur helper
>what is packer/yaourt/pacman search
>what is minimal distro

>>52245061
>tfw this morning

>>52245135
Who /Summer 2012/ here

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>>52245061
lel oldfag is mad

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>>52238922
Just set my timezone amazing stuff.

>>52245209
Nuce u installing?

>>52245209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c5wmeOL9o

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>>52245258
I have had it just booted to the live session for few days i have set the timezone and other stuff but have had no time to set it up. =/

>>52245305
it takes likes 5 minutes to set up

>>52245061
>tfw officially oldfag
A shame I lost my image collection back in 2009.

>>52245329
Not if it's his first time, especially if it's his first time on linux.

Future installs if any though yes, very fast.

>>52241623
go to #archlinux on freenode you fucking pleb

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>>52245499
You smort

>>52239297
>muslim faggot detected

>>52245719
>2016
>Not being a muslim
What's your excuse, normalfag?

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>>52245719
Forgot the picture :^)

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>>52245729
>>52245744
>2016
>not an indian
Nice one m8

>>52245729
>>52245770
>>>/r9k/

>>52238922
>Pro tip: You can't
Gentoo. Now go suck a dick.

Arch is the best desktop distro
but for server?
I would go centos any day of the week

>>52245174
This.

Once you go portage you never go back.

>>52239411
All distros worth using has systemd

>>52246349
>using a backdoor

>>52239670

I don't even have AUR enabled. I've been using Arch for a while now, and I just stick to the official repositories.

arch: for faggots that can't pick between gentoo and debian

>>52247160
Sounds good, sign me up.

Arch is known to brick laptops

>>52247275
source?

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If you are not using Ubuntu, you are a hipster faggot.

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>best distro
>no installer
inb4 i'm retarded, there is leterally no excuse for that

>>52247463

But there is an installer.

>>52247463
>installing the OS is a common task

>>52247444
>If you are using Ubuntu, you are a hipster faggot.
FTFY

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>>52243988
No

>>52243988
>Unix development stopped in 1978

Xubuntu is and will always be the best Linux distro.

>>52247074
Sensible user found

>>52248003
what's wrong with AUR and yaourt, fuck, I punched in yaourt osbuddy to play runescape and it installed java too. Makes shit so damn easy.

>>52248020

Hit or miss situations.

Some AUR stuff is great. Others not so much. Some packages do not need to mess with the things they mess with, and it causes problems.

>>52248056
My rule is not to use AUR unless it's an extremely well known package or there's no other choice.

>>52248070
heh post output of pacman -Qm

Is Arch a good choice distro for a somewhat novice Linux user?

I'm considering installing it on my laptop. I do have some basic understanding of command line that I have practiced on a virtual machine running Ubuntu. This is going to be the first time I'm installing non Windows OS.

>>52247275
what are the chances of this happening?

First for Antergos.

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>>52248964
generally its not for a novice user unless you are enthusiastic about linux in general
but nothing is stopping you
try installing it in to virtualmachine just like you did ubuntu?

>what are the chances of this happening?
I never heard of that ever happening or see any reason why it should
its just linux as any other except you actually are doing the steps during the install
and just nothing comes to mind that could brick anything

>>52241503
>apt is pretty awful after using pacman.
Please elaborate.

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Arch is extremely bloated compared to Alpine.

>>52248964

I installed Arch with no Linux knowledge at all.

Best way to learn is to lunge in head first sometimes.

7 out of 10 /g/ computer scientists prefer Arch

>>52249056
see >>52239297

>>52249016
my nigga. antergos is based.

>>52244188
This is just bullshit. They say as long as their repositorys have non-free packages it's not respecting your freedom. But nobody forces you too install those non-free packages, so fuck off.

>>52249181
aptitude shows you both recommendations and suggestions

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I like Antergos.

Just works and doesn't look like caca OOTB

>>52242322
I'm not an OS X fan, but...

OS X is more Unix than GNU/Linux is.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#POSIX-certified)

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>>52249196
We were talking about apt
>>52249214
>>52249016
Fuck off bait posting faggot

>>52249196
Install geany and share the complete output

>>52249234
aptitude is Debian's recommended package manager.

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>>52249234
>bait posting
If I was bait posting I would have praised Manjaro

>>52249274
>Calling antergos the best
>Not a bait
Found a fresh retard

>>52239297
>>52241472
This and also pacman is much faster on not-so-recent systems

>>52238922
How about you tell why it is?

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>>52249274
>He actually praises Antergos

>>52238922
It's pretty buggy desu

I've had to downgrade 2 packages and have had other glitches that I still haven't worked out. But I am "pushing the envelope" by using wayland and booting btrfs snapshots.

>>52249016
>First for a bloatware

>>52249293
I said I like it, not that it is the best.
>>52249331
What are the issues? It is literally >99% Arch. These are the non arch packages:

antergos-keyring

antergos-mirrorlist

antergos-wallpapers

lightdm-webkit2-greeter

lightdm-webkit-theme-antergos

numix-frost-themes

numix-icon-theme-square

except for the first two, all are in the AUR.

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>>52249377
>7 unique packages
A
FUCKING
DISTROLET

>>52249377
>I said I like it,
Nice shitpost anon, none here wanted to know what distro you like

>>52249395
AYY m8 don't bully the noobs

>>52247987
using xubuntu right now, for more than 4 years, still feels awesome

>>52249252
Do what >>52249245 says anon, I am curious

>>52239297
>Adnan
So did you kill that Korean girl or not?

>>52249162
that's the reason to avoid it

>>52238922
Meme Linux OS. Time sink, really everyone would be better using windows 10.
Good day ten more rupies so I can afford a loo and stop using the designated.

>>52249419
Copy-pasting a dozen commands to install arch makes someone not a noob?

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>>52249502
>Confusing me with a fucking secondary

>>52249502
Considering he is shilling Arch, he might have

>>52249245

The following NEW packages will be installed:
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>>52249775
I don't see how this resolves the issue in the picture?
pacman tells the optional dependancies along with a siingle line description

>>52249775

I'm new at /g/ and have no idea how to do that with your post.

Could you tell me, please?

>>52249949
You are new with English as well, apperantly

>>52249976

You're right on that.
Would you answer my question, please?

>>52250020
I could if I honestly understood
Could you please rephrase your question a little bit?

>>52238922
too hard to install
/thread

>>52250066

Of course.

This post >>52249775 has a white coloured part and I'd like to know how to reproduce that effect.

>>52249559
see >>52250106

>>52250135
It's a code block. Read the sticky >>51971506

>>52250182

Thank you very much!

>>52250167
It's not hard, it's just pointless to not have an installer.

>>52250189
Now don't confuse /g/ with /v/, since you are new

>>52239119
>cuck

>>52245061
Said OLDFAG was 2005-2007
Not moots person online friend community til 2005

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>>52241281
>I am a aspiring hacker and love to learn new languages. Programming lover, writer and web developer, I blog when I get spare time from these.

>>52238922
>Arch is the best Linux Distro ever made, prove me wrong
>Pro tip: You can't

Perfect post.

10/10

>>52249016
>>52249190
Disgusting

>>52238922
Slackware is the best distro

>>52241281
Maybe you should learn to put poo in loo before trying to Linux, Pajeet.

DESIGNATE

>>52252373
this

>>52252281
>Says the command line copy-paster "pro"
I laugh at you.

>>52252373
>No dependency resolution
Into the thrash.

>>52244188
"the kernel of arch isn't free" you don't really understand what linux is,do you?

arch is a good around fuck around distro, but i wouldnt use it for a computer i couldn't risk not working the way it did the day before.

>>52253191
agreed

>>52247463
You're retarded.

>>52253191
get something that let's you take snapshots, use before updates and don't update the hour before a big presentation, problem solved

definitely possible to have arch stable, but requires a bit more than conventional distros for sure

>>52240256
>The terminal in Arch
What?

>>52252704
>He actually needs to read the wiki while installing arch
laughingwhores.jpeg

>>52239904
>Why was it introduced?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux#The_early_years
tl;dr: Judd Vinet used Crux and some other stuff and liked them but didn't like their package management. So, he made his own distro.

>>52238922
Is Arch really the best?
I've only tried Mint 17, Ubuntu 12, and Arch + Gnome3. I've been running Arch + Gnome3 for almost a week now and I have to say I really really like it. "Pacman" has been perfect, where as with Ubuntu and Mint using "sudo apt-get install" for any package would just make it complain about dependencies not being met(Even when I use -D).

>>52248964
>Is Arch a good choice distro for a somewhat novice Linux user?
Honestly, not at all and I don't see the point. Assuming we're talking daily driver home OSes, the Mint/buntus for newbies meme (or openSUSE for a more hipsterish alternative) is actually well justified. The different Linux distros aren't actually that different in the end, the vast majority of software you can get on one you can also grab on others, so the end result is mostly the same. Mint/buntus just get to the "functional" point straight away while most others need hours or even days spent troubleshooting with the terminal and a bunch of 5 year old posts from Google to get going the way you really want them to.

>>52258474
Then again what's a better way to understand how Linux works than to actually try to configure it yourself.

>>52258766
Not him but I agree. Though there are some occasions when you expect your system is preconfigured. Like Android file exploring, projector/printer/scanner/bluetooth support etc

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>>52245061
It's true that pre-chanology should be the only true definition of oldfag, but the master rusemen of a few years back far worse than what 4chan is now in a way. The incredibly boring, paranoid time after that, when people feared memelord kids like a terminal illness was almost even worse. Today it's all a parody of itself, but at least it's fun again.