>Requesting purchase advice:
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
Opinions on these?
First for best combo under 1000€
First for best combo at any price
Have you ever heard somebody shilling this hard?
How do they think we would fall for this?
>Hey m8 just muffle the AKG, make the source track sound a little thin and make a v shape for the HD650, Sennheieser paying big bux this time Johnnie!
Its not about that, I don't give a fuck about that, but accroding to these guys M40x sounds better than HD650, since I didn't hear any change at all in the sound when I listened to that track.
okay tet me as a really noob question but on every pair of headphones i've ever owned one ear would always eventually die and it seemed like the cable wore out. on high end headphones do they have replaceable cables or something?
You aren't serious, are you? They are just reading through manufacturer specs with these comparisons. I find the relative comparisons they do somewhat interesting though, even if my own system is added on top of the response they recorded.
The flatter of the two.
>Do all amps do is make everything louder?
Short answer: yes, that's what an ideal amplifier does. Voltage division can unevenly alter frequencies' amplitude however. HD 600 is somewhat immune to this due to its high impedance but this is always relative to the device you are plugging the headphones into. If you get the volume you want with the HD 600 even without a discrete amplifier, you are very likely good already. HD 600 are still a bit on the lower side of sensitivity hence the guideline here for whether headphone needs an amplifier recommends you one.
No, but my K702 includes an edgy anime girl who protects my virginity.
The ideal volume in the digital domain would be constant full scale in every application, including your OS.
While exaggerated that is close to how the headphones sound and measure. The 2kHz bumb on almost all K6xx and K7xx -series AKGs do make them sound a bit tinny or "shouty" and because of the amplitude rise at 2kHz and in the higher treble, the rolled off bass will sound more distant.
That's one giant Senjougahara.
Because most 'dadrap' is better than most modern stuff. Sorry, but I dont like listening to a dude use auto tune over a fucking shitty trap beat that 'goes hard'.
I do listen to some modern though, mainly Kendrick Lamar, Joey Bada$$, Logic, and J. Cole.
Goldenears measurements of the K702 are quite different from those on Heapdhones.com and Innerfidelity, then I guess that this divergence must be due to different performances of the different tested units. I'd really love to measure the FR of my K702 in order to EQ them to be very close to neutral, but I guess I should need a good microhphone/system in order to accomplish this. The only good headphone I can compare the K702 with is my X2 and so far it sounds like the K702 performs better at almost everything.
> The 2kHz bumb on almost all K6xx and K7xx -series AKGs do make them sound a bit tinny or "shouty"
I know that the 2kHz peak is constant in any K7- series, but can I say that I never experienced this tinny sensation? The K702 sound pleasantly clear to me without audible annoying peaks. The mids are so balanced and detailed compared to the X2 that listening to any kind of acoustic music is amazing.
> and because of the amplitude rise at 2kHz and in the higher treble, the rolled off bass will sound more distant.
Honestly I don't feel like the treble is that enhanced and I don't find it overshadowing the bass at all. The rolled-off sub-bass sounding distant is true, even though the sub-bass is more present than on the X2. As for the midbass, it's not just present, it's punchy and really enjoyable in my opinion. Can I say that the midbass on the K702 sounds more detailed and less muffled than the midbass on the X2?
Meh, now I'm less afraid to turn the music slightly louder without blowing out my eardrums from treble rape.
>if you have to ask then no
Love this meme.
Worth it? I'm building my entire setup to be white.
compacter than speakers
If I lived alone, I'd probably get open headphones over speakers, if I lived with people and I wanted them to hear it too, I'd use speakers
seems fairly logical
Lads, my pic related's broke and I'm in need of a replacement. What's the best pair I can get from the average convenience store/gift shop?
P.S. Get the MA750, not the MA750i. The inline remote is useless if you aren't using an iphone or ipod, and the 'i' version apparently has a high failure rate. Also, for some reason RHA put the cable cinch below the remote, and the cinch is needed to tighten up the over ear hooks for the sake of comfort.
>Meh, now I'm less afraid to turn the music slightly louder without blowing out my eardrums from treble rape.
Entirely different sound signature, HD 650 is more neutral and darker in tone. HD 800 is bright. Depends on what you want and what you value.
If you want bigger soundstage, better imaging, better comfort and better build quality then yes. HD650 also dont gain a whole lot from EQing unlike most AKG / Audio Technica / Beyer and HD800.
I heard many people talk about EQ here but a spontaneous doubt arose in my mind: how can one EQ his own headphone without having the exact measurements of his own unit? Is he going to EQ his headphones based on FR? How can one be usre that his headphone exactly sounds like the heqdphones tested in reviews?
And when you EQ them they get better than HD6xx because of the bigger soundstage. HD6xx still have great imaging tho.
Look at multiple measurement and finish with slight eq by ear after what sounds best to you
Ok but is looking at different measurements a safe path to EQ? Is Equalizer APO peace gui still the best way to eq a headphone for windows? Is there a reliable guide to EQ anywhere on the net?
>Ok but is looking at different measurements a safe path to EQ?
It gives you a starting point. The response of your ear is unique, and measurements still can't account for personal taste.
>Is Equalizer APO peace gui still the best way to eq a headphone for windows?
Equalizer APO has a GUI now for all you people who can't calculate the effect of multiple filters at once. Also expresses it in octave scale, if you find that more intuitive. PEACE still does a few things that EQAPO doesn't.
>Is there a reliable guide to EQ anywhere on the net?
It would boil down to using sine sweeps and noise bursts to identify peaks and dips in the response to tune them out. High playback level so you can hear the frequency extremes, but not so loud that you kill your ears. Listen to music to see if you actually like the result.
Peaking filters get dips and peaks and target frequencies. Shelf filters affect broader ranges, and affect everything above or below, depending whether you choose low-pass or high. That's all the filters you need.
Is there a special strategy for wearing glasses with over ear headphones? I wear Sentey arches and it isn't uncomfortable around my titanium frame glasses at the ears, it is uncomfortable on my nose because it pulls my glasses up. How do you prevent this? Clover is being a tard right now and won't let me upload pics of the headset otherwise I would
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
E10k works well enough.
Speaker impedance is too low for headphone amps. Not to mention that they much more voltage.
I'll keep that in mind. So far I really love the sound of my K702, because any sound, for how soft it may be, can be clearly heard on them. The only thing I would boost through EQ is the sub-bass region, but it's not bad at all.
So now that the piston 3 has been measured by goldenears, changstar and infidelity and has consistently shown to be v shaped and not neutral and the kz ed9 measurements are cropping up on headfi, what will you chinese shills shill now?
Was there ever a reason to buy anything but these, you placebophiles?
>So now that the piston 3 has been measured by goldenears, changstar and infidelity and has consistently shown to be v shaped and not neutral and the kz ed9 measurements are cropping up on headfi, what will you chinese shills shill now?
piston 3 because they're still good for the price?
I've never heard it being said that the pistons 3 or any IEMs for that matter are neutral
Shills already out in full force already. And lying through their teeth. Lel
>that feel when Amperior is the superior master race
Just got these in the mail.
They sound amazing for $15.
That is all.
Hi, looking for suggestions for some real nice sounding IEM's
>Budget: less than $100
>Source: htc m7
>Preferred type of headphone:IEM
>Comfort level: not painful
>Preferred music: hip hop/rap /RnB
>Past headphones: apple ear pods (their awful)
Honestly tempted to grab a pair of these at the moment. By all accounts a solid pair of bluetooth headphones with decent quality, optional corded connection, 40 hour battery life, 700 hour idle life.
are u guys just baiting or wat?
Hey /hpg/ I have a question. I got some Xiaomi Piston 3's, they're pretty good and pass xiaomi verification, HOWEVER the controller has the buttons seperated by buttons when every picture I find online has them as 3 individual buttons. Its killing my autism and I must know if this is normal or not and I might have fakes.
Also they sound kinda ass but my last pair was stupidly base heavy so thats probably normal
pic? most pistons in circulation are fakes. the controller should be ribbed (as if cut by cnc), and the buttons aren't separated by any little pieces of plastic or anything. my friend also bought a piston 3, and found that the case it came with had some weird symbols at the bottom rather than having additional ear tips, which is also a tell-tale sign that its fake and gay.
i was also surprised they sounded that way when i got them, but they aren't that bad after a bit of burn and getting used to, pretty balanced and decent detail out of a phone, though it doesn't cut it for high fi at all; for 10 bux its def worth.
OK, here it is. After closer inspection it looks like there actually are gaps but the mid button has these two big things on either side
hmm nothing else is weird about it though (it is true that the button is supposed to have only a little bump in the center). does it have a mic vent on the back? is its sound balanced (as in left/right panning not frequency reception)? does the case it came in have tips in it?
also if youve recently gotten this you should also have a little "mi" logo strapped around the wire above the jack.
>Budget: 150-200 Euro
>Preferred type of headphone: Full-sized
>Open or closed: see below
>Comfort level: need really comfy ones 8/10-10/10
>Preferred tonal balance: Bassy
>Preferred music: Hip-Hop, Trap, Rap
>Past headphones: Logitech G930 and shitty Marshall Majors
I want my first pair of decent headphones that I can use to listen to music and play video games with.Open or closed is both fine, whatever you think suits my needs the best. Any ideas?
what does /disguised a/ think of theese?
My sister gave me some srh940's she didn't want
Are they okay or should I chuck them
Has anyone else ever tried these? They're all I want after testing a pair about 6 months ago in Korea. Had no idea a closed back pair could sound this good.
Definitely not the best headphones if you're looking for bass.
Those headphones are really focused on the highs and mids
For hip hop I'd get something with a more neutral, warm, or even a v shape sound.
I've had these guys for a little over 4 years now.
is there really even a difference between the 600 or the 650 sennheisers?
Just picked up these R70x yesterday and I gotta say I am blown away.
Upgraded from my AD700's which are slightly more comfortable. However the R70x's have a fuller and more balanced sound, better design, more compact, and significantly lighter. I've tried pairs of AKG's, a couple Sonys, Grados, but all have since been returned or sold. I have never tried any Sennheisers. But with these I'm in love and won't ever need another pair of cans as long as they last
Also, you're a bunch of autists and these generals are completely pointless. What is there to discuss about things so subjective as comfort and sound? Do yall just jack off to freq response graphs while arguing about the same memes over and over? I've come, got some advice, made a decision, and now I'm happy so I can leave forever. Goodbye
>I've come, got some advice, made a decision, and now I'm happy so I can leave forever. Goodbye
Who would give the advice if everyone did that?
Very close to the 900. Consensus seems to be 95% of the 900 in terms of all that micro-detail, dynamics, other audiophile buzzwords. More objectively they don't exhibit the same treble issues some complain about with the 900 andlook better (imo). The only downfall is the opening in the pads is quite a bit smaller than the 600/900 and the classic long-ass cable with 1/4" termination which isn't detachable.
>Who would give the advice if everyone did that?
Nobody. Which is a good thing, since advice given by a bunch of autists who can't recognize their personal biases is usually shit advice. There are countless other sources of guidance which are a lot better
>There are countless other sources of guidance
>which are a lot better
Now that's a stretch. You could definitely do much worse than here for advice (Head-Fi, Reddit, random YouTube reviewers, Massdrop comment sections, other purely subjective communities)
So I have a pair of Philips Fidelio X2s and a pre-amp for my recording
Even though the X2s don't need phantom power, I feel like fidelity is a little better when plugged into my pre-amp rather than my PCs regular headphone outlet (realtek HD built in audio etc)
Is there likely to be a difference or am I just imagining it?
>doesnt know who that is
Other than getting rid of buzzing, does a DAC improve audio quality in a major way?
I upgraded from a900x's to k7xx's, and was told it would be a slight upgrade, but I was absolutely blown away by the improvement between the two, so I was wondering if getting a dac would have a similar boon.
Was Tyll using a tenga when he did the review on those flagship Ultrasone headphones?
Strictly a condenser thing. Outside that world of recording, condensers are known as capacitors, electrostatics.
But see the checklist here>>52231655
They're kinda bright.
>a900x's to k7xx
That's a matter of taste. Discrete DACs don't do much of any change.
firstly the solo is great, you are more likely to be made fun of here for the x2
secondly, you are definitely imagining the difference. your onboard is better, the pre-amp that is for the mic port does not affect the direct monitor port at all
thirdly, i want to make sure we're clear on something. phantom 48v power is for microphones only, and at that, -condenser- microphones only. it is not extra power, it is required power for condenser mics to function, and can actually damage dynamic microphones
$ 25 to $50
>Preferred type of headphone
On ear, wireless Bluetooth
>Open or closed
On a scale 1-10. It's a 5 or 6
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't rwally care desu it's a gift.
Hip hop, metal
Panasonic RP-HTX7 Stereo
Mainly it's bluetooth. Need it for working out.
Been looking at these, myself.
Supposedly good sound quality, questionable build quality. Though the build quality woes tend to be focused on the folding version.
I got my terms mixed up, I just meant amplification when I said phantom. Good thing my mic is a condenser
>the pre-amp that is for the mic port does not affect the direct monitor port at all
Okay yea I'm just using the monitor port with my headphones. What makes the on-board better?
Though I just realized you wanted it for working out.
So that might not be good.
Not sure what there is good in the "behind the neck" category for bluetooth, but it might be what you want.
>What makes the on-board better?
well, it just depends on so many things. honestly the x2 are quite efficient, so if you think it sounds better through the solo, go for it. if you cant tell the difference, and can still EQ it and shit if you want, then it literally doesnt matter
because thats not how it works at all. dacs and headphones do not make good "pairs." a dac sends the highest quality signal it can, and the rest of the chain deals with it however it's going to do it
id have her as my waifu too, if i was this mentally deficient. she would be able to make up for my incompetence. i hope that one day she becomes real and is able to explain to you why your tubes are silly
>because thats not how it works at all. dacs and headphones do not make good "pairs." a dac sends the highest quality signal it can, and the rest of the chain deals with it however it's going to do it
You notice the DAC more in planars though.
What are the comfiest headphones if you have to wear glasses?
fucking hell this thread is in dire need of another
AMPERIOR SUPRIOR pic
God I feel srry for you fucking faggot just get a HD(aluminium)-25 an Amperior and be done with it
All other headphones are memes ffs go kill yourself
i think what i said still stands for wearing glasses. low clamp with memory foam. x2 would just be my experience personally for what that represents
oh wow, lol. is this an /a/ meme? i hardly go there anymore
>they're autistic not me
Yes, yes, now back to our regular programming of snap/weilheisers, beyeremorses, akg rattle weaboos and how you should be buying mx50 my friend. Not to mention that shit few posts above about DACs. Non autists lol.
Bang & Olufsen H6, general opinion? I've only read positive reviews so far and the sound as well as the design has received a ton of positive feedback. I tried them a few times and liked them a lot. Just looking for an opinion from you guys since you know your headphones.
how does that not make sense? why arent i in that thread right now. surely if i was autistic i would go
yeah i tried my best to explain why that didnt make sense. i think he just got mad and left
Just got a e07k, so I decided to try viper4android with 17db 78Hz bass boost > e07k 10db bass boost > M50s
>tfw transcending nigger bass mode
Sennheiser HD 558
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro
Which would be the best for me? (I play a lot of games and listen to electronic music, other suggestions are welcomed)
HD558 would be best for games since it's open.
M50x sounds like shit and makes your ears red from how uncomfortable it is. 7506 has no bass and no soundstage meme. Haven't heard the 770, but they're like 2x the price of the 558.
Seems like about as much research as the average person does. I like the headphones so far but I wondered what people think.
The ATH-M20x feels comfy after very long wearing. I have been wearing it for like 6-7 hours and no pain here. I assume the M50x fits similarly. I don't spend more than $50 on headphones so what I got was the closest thing for really cheap.
Thanks, but are all the things I've seen about the Sennheiser headphones braking easily true or are those just pairs that have been heavily worn? As for the the 770's I'd be curious to hear any feedback on them. Money isn't too much of a problem so long as they don't get over 300 CAD.
Boy the K340 really took tinny mids and nobass to the next level, K701 owners should count their blessings.
>ATH-M20X feels comfy
No it doesn't. What other headphones have you compared it to? Anything under the M40/M40X is pure shit in terms of sound quality.
The design of the M series ATH's are for maximum portability, if you want
The Sennheiser break is mostly a meme, just take care of them and don't throw them around or try to intentionally break them and they'll be fine. D-T770 has a decent soundstage for being a closed headphone, if you want a headphone that sounds more like the M series then you'll probably want to go with the DT-770 as it's also v-shaped.
Could also look for a like new Fidelio X2.
Probably a stupid fucking question but I've been doing some reading and apparently you don't get surround sound through standard external amps?
Is that important at all for watching movies and shit or do you only need surround sound if you play faggot shooting games?
It looks beautiful.
But now I'm wondering why not go for the K712 Or the K701.
ALso, why is the 650's from sennheiser so highly popular & rated high up all the time? is it a shill?
>le look at my autism charts
you don't have a k340 or a k702, i have both and i just want to say the k340 has more bass than the k702 :^)
I'm not sure if I should get the E10K for my ATH-M40x. My current source is my laptops headphone/mic port, but I get a low volume noise that kinda sounds like coilwhine when I have my mouse plugged in. It's annoying as all hell, when I listen to quiet parts in a track, but I won't go out and spend 100 $ on a Amp, if it won't help me anyway.
Which anon is right here?
I-I just want amazing cans to upgrade my old nazi sennheisers...
The HD 800 and DT880 are the same thing guys believe me i looked at a fr chart
They're garbage. You just think they're good because they're estats and they were the cheapest estats you could find with your welfare budget.
what the fuck. The dt880 does look like the same.
God Dammit, All I wanted was some kickass cans & now this chart is saying I can save $1,000???
>fr chart fags will debate theirs a diffrence
Well I'd rather believe the charts, but then again I know jack diddly about cans in the first place.
>but then again I know jack diddly about cans in the first place.
You're in the same position as the idiot with post-purchase rationalization then as far as knowing jack diddly about headphones. Make an informed decision on your purchase and avoid looking like this retard.
>when your so new you don't know how to reply
nice projecting newfriend
whatever helps you sleep at night buddy
5x8 line are all hard plastic. Honestly, I can't see how they'll break unless you purposely bend them to snap or you drop something ridiculously heavy on them. I can't see myself ever accidentally breaking my 598.
I mean, they go on your head, then you put them on a desk or wherever when you're done.
I'm a different anon. I own a K702 and I love it, it's better than the X2 I own. If you don't mind a non-detachable cable, the K612 is probably the most neutral AKG in production and it's sometimes cheaper than the K702. Still, there are very minor sound differences between the K702 and the K612. Some say that the K702 lacks bass impact but it's absolutely wrong. Personally I find it perfect.
> mfw I spent less than 200€ for my K702 which is as neutral as a 350€ HD600
> mfw people complain about HD600 narrow sound
> mfw the K702 has a wide and airy sound
No, the correct word is "detailed". You sennusers aren't used to hear details in your music, then I don't blame you for being able to define the sound of a better headphone.
Typical reactions when listening to a Sennheiser:
First time: Nice
Second time: Good
Third time: Boring
Typical reactions whem listening to a X2:
First time: Funny
Second time: Good
Third time: I recall that someone was singing in this part of the song but I can't hear him now
Typical reactions when listening to a AKG:
First time: Wow
Second time: Wow
Third time: Wow