>>46528571 Seriously after the first time I would be freaking out about whether I had just been caught in a sting. Then again, it's impossible to put my mind in that of a criminal. I couldn't imagine letting an idea like Silk Road getting as far as it did, so I couldn't even fathom being in any of the situations he found himself in.
>>46528562 Okay the captives was out of my ass, but they did traffic CP.
>narcotics should be legal Anything that isn't pot shouldn't be legal any argument against that is stupid.
>inb4 you mention another minor drug that maybe shouldn't be
Any heavy shit with no medical use should be illegal, no 'moral' bullshit can get around that
Yes and no. While i believe everyone ahs the right to own one, and would want a way to get one if they try to take them away, Having traceless/paperless weapons is used for nothing but killing innocent people and nignogs shooting at eachother. Guns should be legally fucking owned. People who get them illegally 90% of the time use them to take peoples lives.
>>46528601 Well you have to remember that criminals will always try to push the envelope with their crimes, and Ulbricht probably got really cocky from all the cash he was roping in and the fact that he got away with it for so long.
>>46528656 >Anything that isn't pot shouldn't be legal any argument against that is stupid.
here's the argument: you don't get to fucking decide what others do to their own bodies, is it dangerous, yes. So, fucking what, you don't get to tell them not to. It's their decision. Anything else is a gross violation of freedom. So, fuck you, fuck everyone who thinks they have the right to say how i or anyone else can live their life. Do, you even know what freedom is, well ill tell you what it isn't, it isn't the government saying what is and isn't safe enough for you to use.
>>46528752 >Like i said, anything with no Medical Purpose should be illegal if you put someone in jail for recreational, peaceful use of a drug, you are an evil person, there is no debate about it. It is unspeakable cruelty to punish these people when they haven't done anything wrong
>>46528812 there aremany positive benefits to most illegal drugs when used in extreme moderation
who knows where medicine would be if the government did not forcibly stop all the revolutionary research into potential medical applications of LCD, which was at the time hailed as a miracle drug with limitless potential, much like stem cells are today
>>46528844 >Anonymous 02/11/15(Wed)23:25:37 No.465 doesn't change the fact that the government HAS NO RIGHT to tell you that you cant use a certain substance. A government with that power goes well beyond the scope of that of a free country. There is no argument that can change this. It isn't pragmatic, it is right and wrong, and it is wrong to put a man in jail because he decided to lick a mushroom, you destroy his life simply because you don't agree with his way of life. Its not just intolerant, it's cruel. These aren't statistics, and they aren't all gangsters, they are real people with lives which you want to ruin by locking them up for years in a cell. I would fight a war to free everyone who is imprisoned for non-violent drug crimes, and i have never even had a sip of alcohol, let alone used any of the drugs that have been discussed here. I cannot accept any other stance on this issue, as they simply are not moral.
While I despise drug users I think he was doing a good thing. He didn't force people to buy drugs. He didn't hand out loans and beat people up when they couldn't pay. It was the best way to sell drugs if it had to be sold. He should have known better. He was rich enough to not get caught but he did stupid things anyway.
>>46528902 >There's little to no medical good in Opiates and Amphetamines.
please post your sources, i would simply love to read a medical article detailing why it is impossible that there are positive affects of these compounds, or maybe this info is from your high school tech class
any way here's mine: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/06/lsd-anxiety-study-psychotherapy-_n_4906596.html
there is an excellent documentary on this subject titled "weed"
>>46529036 i didn't say anything what-so-ever about pregnant women. That becomes a debate about rights of the mother vs. rights of the child, and in this case I would agree with you. You are arguing against my point be juxtaposing a situation that is entirely different than the one I argued, effectively making your rebuttal invalid.
>>46529300 >>46529300 >>46529300 Dred Pirate Roberts did nothing wrong Homera did nothing wrong Homera is Dred Pirate Roberts Dred Pirate Roberts is also a character in a movie shrek is also a movie shrek is green what happens to potatoes when they go green they turn poisonous poison was used by dred pirate roberts in the movie movies have plot calculators plot points on a graph you can also graph cpu activity ternary computers have three states, binary computers have two states 2-1 = 1 computers have three letters 3 X 1 = 3 coincidence, i think not homera is headmaster Illuminati Illuminati confirmed
He did plenty of things wrong. Running a drug market wasn't one of them though.
The drug issue in the west is fucked anyway. There should be a standardised test for every drug, based on the harm it does. Give it a rating, and then ban every drug that has a harm rating that's too high. Problem is that alcohol will probably fall into the too high category. Unless you make that the benchmark- anything less harmful than alcohol you legalise, anything more harmful, you illegalise.
But it doesn't really matter. If you hate heroin and street drugs it doesn't matter since they will never go away. The more money you pour into stopping them, the more the drugs are worth on the street, because demand stays the same but supply dwindles. Violence increases to preserve selling opportunities. Communities are wrecked because drug dealing is massively profitable as opposed to staying in school. Online marketplaces becoming legal would make drug prices shoot right down. Why risk getting beaten up by some drug dealing nigger when you can go online and order the same drug, with reliable quality, at a fraction of the price online?
>>46529094 drug users should just die and go to hell where they belong
the use of drugs is a violation of the sacredness of the human body and a crime against god
the government isn't doing enough to stop these people, they are corrupting Americas youth with godlessness and atheism. This is a christian nation and the point of government is to enforce good christian morals, not stand there and watch as children are radicalized by drugs and pornography and the Islam.
>>46529572 Also doesn't take into account the dichotomy between the FBI stopping drug trafficking and the CIA actually doing drug trafficking. CIA sells drugs, FBI tries to stop it. Drugs can never be legalised mainly because the CIA will always oppose it. They'll cook up reasons why it'll help terrorists to protect their monopoly over trading drugs and weapons around. to the terrorist organisations of the future, no less. Nuke saudi arabia, legalise drugs, stop bombing iraqi children.
>>46529676 Are you so in the dark you don't know about the CIA's drug and weapon trafficking? They've been doing it since the 70s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking IT HAS A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE. WITH SUB ARTICLES FOR THE INCIDENTS
>CIA and Kuomintang opium smuggling operations >IRAN-CONTRA >Mena, Arkansas >Mexico >Panama >Venezuelan National Guard Affair
And this is just shit we know about.
The CIA trafficks drugs. If you didn't know this, you're an idiot. Let me guess, they didn't feed LSD to retarded kids either
>>46529720 Upon reading the article, it looks like your claims are false. It seems like, yes, the CIA can be turn a blind eye to entities that traffic drugs that it may be involved with (which makes sense, considering 'plausible deniability' is a thing) but saying that the CIA itself actively sells drugs is insane
These operations are probably undercover or black ops, which is why they might be complicit at times
>>46529572 Drugs *are* assessed for harm, but "harm" isn't as one-dimensional as you make it out to be. There are drugs that can shred your internal organs if abused, but are reasonably safe when used in moderation. These drugs are often prescribed safely to patients. There are drugs that - even in minute doses - cause people to do insane things that harm other people (to say nothing of themselves). How do you classify those?
And what about drugs that just make you feel extremely good and are highly addictive? Drugs that are well-known to cause people to do violent and dangerous things to get their hands on more. These drugs don't cause harm to the body per se, but they sure as fuck endanger the community.
These factors are all assessed in most drugs. Some drugs are so entrenched in our culture that the political willpower to ban or regulate them just isn't there. Alcohol is one such case; so is smoking (though less so than it was in the past, owing to a monumental effort to overcome a cultural institution and billions in lobbying dollars).
>>46528844 >>46528844 >IF you think Amphetimines/OPiates are cool >If you think being Junkie Scum should be legal http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/overdose/facts.html >Of the 22,767 deaths relating to pharmaceutical overdose in 2013, 16,235 (71.3%) involved opioid analgesics (also called opioid pain relievers or prescription painkillers) http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/rxbrief/ https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/us/14florida.html https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-07-07/prescription-drugs-cause-more-overdoses-in-u-s-than-heroin-and-cocaine http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-25458511 >The MPs said more people may be addicted to prescription drugs than to illegal drugs
>>46528571 Those charges were dropped and may have been moderately to completely fictitious. The arresting officers/investigators do this in every case. Get out of vehicle during a traffic stop? ATTEMPT TO FLEE --- dont be a sucker.
>>46528562 >lack the right to ban them Well shit son, you've got the government in a choke hold now. The war on drugs is over. Taxes are now being returned to tax payers. You no longer need ID to buy s gun. Who knew the anonymous post of a strong libertarian on an image board could singlehandedly stop all government tom foolery by just saying they lack the right Well done anon you have singlehandedly brought back the US to its former glory Gorge Washington is saluting you from on top his eagle in heaven
>>46529759 >iran-contra >false Nice try idiot. Right and the NSA isn't spying on anyone. Get a fucking grip. This is how al Qaeda was funded back in the 80s. the CIA was selling weapons to Bin Laden so he'd get rid of the soviets.
>>46528363 >nothing wrong he did one big thing wrong ... he challenged the authority of the state to regulate what can and cant be sold. Also he tried to have people killed which is something only the state is allowed to do.
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