I reckon majority of /g/ are in their early to late 20s. Do you think you were born in the right time to enjoy technology or would it be better to be born 20 years later?
I can honestly say I don't miss growing up in the days of DOS or 56k dial-up. Being born 20 years later would be nice but at the current rate our resources are being depleted and increasing rate of population, things might not be too comfy.
>increasing rate of population
>resources being depleted
These are very localized events.
First world countries aren't in danger of overpopulation or resource depletion. In fact, many are facing crises due to low child birth rates (Japan now, and later the US and Russia), which get supplemented by increased immigration.
We're basically at the golden age of the free internet and cheap, inexpensive computing, accessible to anyone.
Expect that all to change in 20 years when computers are dumbed down to ultra-thin tablets that only use cloud storage and compilers, along with all forms of encryption are reclassified as cyberweapons, banning the practice of recreational programming and local storage.
It's only going to get worse from here on out.
Savor your modern life while you can.
28 year old here. I'm sure I'd enjoy tech regardless of when I was born.
People enjoyed technology for ages. The only reason the stuff like mainframes that use tape or punch cards don't get the love they deserve is the lack of mainstream exposure due to the price and every day capabilities. But many of the few people who used those machines enjoyed them for what they did.
In the future there will be even more capable, cheaper and easier to use machines, that will make today's computers look like the DOS with 56k modems you're talking about. Should I wait for those things to enjoy tech? Nope
i'm pretty with where i joined in, i'm 24
i feel like if i were much younger, i wouldn't have gotten much of a chance to mess with systems that required some knowledge to use
children growing up with ipads now might not even consider computer more than just an appliance, and i'd hate to have been that
if anything i might have liked it if i was a bit older
Ya increase of population is not really an issue, but rather the aging population which there are less and less younger people to support them. Its a cycle. I'm hoping people will start to use less resources. From where I'm working as part time, paper wasting is a huge problem I think.
Resource depletion is very real and will affect everybody regardless of country. The Saudis already admitted that they only have 40% of their previously reported oil reserves.
We need to find another feasible energy source or we'll be flung back to the stone age.
I'm 19 and I'm happy with where I'm at, although I kinda wish I was born a bit sooner so I could enjoy Ultima online an such. At the same time I at least got to enjoy AOL chat rooms and Newgrounds and memes before they were "mainstream", plus I'm getting into my EE career right as VR tech breaks into the mainstream so I'm hoping to be able to help pioneer that while it's still infant.
Technology in its current stage is much too new to be able to really predict what it's going to be like in the next 20 years culture wise I feel.
It sucks having been born too early to enjoy all this tech during my school days but to see how quickly even the past 10 years have seen such exponential increases in technology advancements
To a certain extent I wish I was a young kid being exposed to technology when personal computing became big in the early-mid 80s so that maybe I could've started on a more competent level, but being where I am now I appreciate that I'm in an age where starting late isn't a death sentence, not to mention all the capabilities nowadays are nothing short of awe-inspiring.
>Expect that all to change in 20 years when computers are dumbed down to ultra-thin tablets that only use cloud storage and compilers, along with all forms of encryption are reclassified as cyberweapons, banning the practice of recreational programming and local storage.
Jesus Christ, why would you give anyone ideas like that?
The main thing I dislike about the current status of technology is the availability.
Normies can't handle it and it just consumes them. Girls can't put their smartphones down for 2 seconds these days. We were trained for this our entire youths, but they've been handed the keys to it all and it's sent them quite mad.
I'm from 1989.
What sucked is that I loved computers from an early age (had tons of fun playing Syndicate and later Starcraft on a friend's 233MHz Pentium 2) but I had to wait until 2003 until my family could afford me a computer.
I lived in a minor city and on a far off neighborhood, and in 2003 all we had was dial-up. You would never get 56k though, you'd be lucky to get 20kbps or so. Downloading one song though KaZaA or eMule took forever. I'd spend an entire week trying to put together a CD so I could listen in it on muh Discman on the way to school.
I had an Athlon XP in 2002 and had to hold onto it all the way until 2009.
My sister was born in 1999 and now she has an Android phone, a desktop, and laptop.
In a way it fucking sucked back then. Now I can torrent a 320kbps CD in minutes. Movies are HD and so on. But in a way having to live on those spartan times and holding onto the same dying hardware for 8 years gives you some appreciation not everyone has.
Just my 2c.
I'm 22, I think I was born in a good time, then again hearing people talk about their awesome childhood in the 80s kinda makes me wish I was around in the time. Tech was also more fun, computing was much more barebones and you could learn much more. From now on tech will be heavily clad in oversimplification, prettiness and just general attempts to shield the user from the inner workings of any device. Nice for just getting shit done I suppose but nobody will know anything. The internet and some regulations/restrictions were also much more lax many years ago.
Funny that in 20 years with all the great tech we have, much, much less people will know how on earth it works.
I think this is the age to be in now, all the kids now are being spoiled for tech just like we were because we had a computer in the house. The next couple of generations are going to suffer from all the mainstreamers trying to make things easier to cater to a wider customer demographic. Computers are getting smarter, people are getting dumber.
>Computers are getting smarter, people are getting dumber.
I think uneducated and illiterate people have always been around.
The fact that computers (in all their forms) now reach a broader audience does not make them dumb, it only showcases what was already there.
Born in 1991 and our first PC was some Pentium running at 133MHz(was second hand) I've experienced enough of the evolution of computers to have a decent picture of what happened that I'm fine with living in the current time.
>rather the aging population which there are less and less younger people to support them
People will need to work until they are 70 in the near future and I do not think that is a bad thing considering the overall health of said people.
People just need to realize the worth of experience.
>I don't miss growing up in the days of DOS or 56k dial-up
i kind of do. Things were different. And i'm not talking like and old man "eeeh my time you damn kids"
Things were really different. Slower internet meant different approaches to the web. Less advanced systems meant you had to have different knowledge. You had to know what to do, like the internet was really the far west and computers were delicate machines that required knowledge to use.
Now things are really different
It's a good time. The dissolution of the old world order, once a whispered dream of 90s BBSes and sales pitch of dot com companies, is now a matter of public headlines. Computers have never been more powerful or more available, and we're witnessing a great schism in technology - locked down laptops and fondleslabs for the hoi polloi, and ever more powerful systems and open hardware for those of us that can make use of them, most of which run some flavor of open source unix-like.
And me? I'm sitting here in sweat pants shitposting at 3am while getting paid good money to be a sysadmin.
Have you taken a look at current laptops? Almost all laptops with 35W CPUs are being killed off in favor of slower parts. Most Sandy Bridge laptops are faster than Broadlel laptops
i'm as ancient as fossilized horse shit and this is the time to be alive.
before now: eh not bad.
now: lots of good stuff.
the future: interesting new things BUT technology will be in the realm of the common man. and nothing ruins things faster than mass acceptance. nothing.
It was just right for tech, but as young girls get more and more whorish I'd prefer to be 18 again. When I was young girls dressed like hobos.
I was born in 1980 and experienced a time where using tech was pain. I appreciate what we have now much more than people that already had all that. I was in the german army and no one there even had a dumbphone, you were literally cut off all civilization when you went there.
>That will be you and me anon.
That's what I was thinking.
And even after that it is possible that one will have to do greenkeeper, janitor kind of stuff to keep himself financially independent.
Now is brilliant, right now i have access to 22 million songs via streaming, talking to wife via facebook, and browsing /g/ About to order pizza to be delivered so its ready when i get home. And speedtest.net just clocked at 50mbps all from my phone commuting home
fucking take a look around. fuck sake.
see your computer? marvel in that shit!
have any of you had to get your porn from a playboy bought at 1am from gas station? no, it's all free and delivered to your screen at the click of a button.
shit. stand the fuck up and celebrate!
Not him, but I'm 34 and I just like to insult people. The inner child never dies I guess.
Maybe I would be born in the early 70s instead of late 70s.
>born too late to develop unix
>born too early to develop advanced AI
>born just in time to post dank memes on /g/
>i can play playstation games wherever i go FOR FREE
>fuck neighbours, i can make conversation with almost everybody i've ever known in less than a minute
>streaming LIVE soccer games from all over the world in the shitter/train
>literally a worldwide knowledge database in my pocket
Fuck it feels good to be alive
So I could be in high school in the 80s instead of elementary school.
>have any of you had to get your porn from a playboy bought at 1am from gas station?
I had to actually steal it when I was a kid because my whopping one dollar a week allowance in the 1990s wasn't enough to buy anything.
I was born in 1982.
I remember being on a BBS in the early 90s and waiting for like 1.5 hours to download a 5 megabye shareware game. I think iy was Jazz Jackrabbit.
Its all relative. In 20 years, you will find another OP with the same question.
>tfw these qt grils are probably going through menopause right now
less political correctness and better TV
I feel the same way about pictures of food. Its all just poop now.
>tfw I had dial up internet up until 2004 and now I have 100 Mb/s cable.
what a change 11 years makes
You should read this:
Now imagine use of uranium being scaled up.
And as a side note, this is one of many reasons why poking the Russians in the eye is a very bad idea.
Anon, your problem isn't being born too early, It's being unable to live forever.
Try to stick around for another 20-30 years. You may see a time when we start to see regular lives of 150-200 years.
When that happens, and you are still alive and can afford the procedure, you'll be able to see the amazing feats.
>you were born just in time to influence mankind's greatest invention: the internet
Edgy as fuck, but if every single western country stopped flushing money down the sink hole that is Africa, and let them sort their shit out themselves, the world population would drop some 500.000.000 over a month. Of course most of the humanitarian aid, is really just a "thank you for letting us use your resources!" donations.
Nice idea, but in practice all the liberal hippies of the world would cry tears for the poor aboo-boo's in africa dropping dead, and African countries would probably freak the fuck out and come up with some sort of Samson option to get their aid back.
Same age, I agree. I believe we were born in the correct age bracket where we saw the rise of technology and actually used it while still going out and doing shit. Kids these days are superglued to their tech, back in the early 00s when I was in HS we had internet and phones but it was a big necessity or use. Still used to go outside almost everyday and play with friends, other times we gamed also but htese days it seems like kids would just stay inside.
Having a bike and riding it in the summer is nothing for them, hell I dont even think theyd enjoy a pool or super soakers in the summer now.
Im 27 and imo i was born the perfect time. Never in history has technology taken such a huge leap as between 1990 and 2010. looking at the past 5 years i doubt it ever will again, we have reached the stagnation point of "soft technology" and the industry has started reinventing wheels and fine tuning existing technologies.
Next major advancement wont be until we create true AI that can be tasked with problems human minds cant tackle (there is a reason why google has hoarded all the experts and pours millions into the AI developement.)
Have you read Dead Aid? It kinda goes into detail about what you're on about. I haven't read it myself so I've got no clue if it's a good read or not.
35 year old here, my first computer was a Commodore 64 when I was 8 years old, I've lived to see the internet grow from local BBS to the early days of the web to having 100mbps always-on internet where I can access any piece of information in human history from a tiny device in pocket.
My dad's youth was in the "space age" when man set foot on the moon, having lived though the "information age" I think I've experienced something even bigger.
I see the 90s as a golden era in terms of creativity overall.
Everything went downhill post 2005. Games, movies, hardware resisting to break two days after guarantee is over, music.
Only things i dont miss are dos and 56k modems.
Had my first 286 at the age of 3 and it was until i turned 11-12 that i got a k6-2 in 2000. Kept it until 2005, then i got a sempron 2400 all the way to 2008 and got a new one just a few weeks ago.
So, i was always late in the tech world but i would not change anything, time used to fly playing PoP or Street Rod, now time flies reading how privacy is done, how every corporation fights to have more data about their users and how having things encripted flags you as the root of all that is bad and evil.
>tablets that only use cloud storage and compilers
why would you need memory when the haev DUUHHHHHHHHHH CCCCCCCCCCCCLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUD?
>encryption classified as cyberweapons
Man, it'd feel great being in the resistance.
We'd probably even hack the cloud occasionally...
>has an Android phone, a desktop, and laptop
Damn, i was born in '97 (yes i'm 18, my birthday was this monday). I own an old computer from 2005 and a fucking galaxy y. I can't even play games on both devices. On android I can just play some shitty pixelated games, while other people are playing hyper-realistic games and stuff. I don't even have much apps on the phone. When people see it, they go "Where're your apps dude".
I'm 27 I look 20 and I keep fucking 15-20 girls
So while I can still do that I'm not giving a fuck about my age
The 20th century was the most influential of all. It's fucking amazing.
>invention of cars
>we launched a man in space
>we landed fucking men on the fucking moon
>TVs (from B&W fat TVs in the 40s to phones thinner than your smartphone - 5 milimeters) see http://www.cnet.com/videos/sonys-showstopper-the-5mm-thin-4k-led-tv/
And of course
>the fucking internet, enabling people from across the world to communicate
We're living in one of the greatest ages now.. The Information Age.
It was nice jumping from a 3/.5 Mbps internet connection to a 25/3 one.
>All those megabips and gigaboops
>1997 was 18 years ago
>It was nice jumping from a 3/.5 Mbps internet connection to a 25/3 one.
I jumped from 56k to 4/1 to 20/4 to 100/100, about to upgrade to 200/200.
I think we had 28k as well but I was too young to understand that shit
It just made sounds from hell when it was connecting and I wasn't allowed to use it because lol phone costs.
The jump from 4/1 to 20/4 was so goddamn good holy shit I loved it. I think they upgraded that line from 20/4 ADSL to 40/4 VDSL somewhere at the end of my contract.
>GTA SA is 10 years old
time is passing so quickly, what's going on?
>old computer from 2005
That's just stupid dude. What reason could there possibly be for having such an old computer? My computer is from around 2011-2012 and I bought it recently for about 150 bucks. You can get computers from 2007 or even newer than that for free you know.
Only if you're a poor faggot and don't plan for retirement. Also, less people to work jobs -> greater demand than supply -> wages increase
If governments and companies fail to provide livable/competitive wages to their workers, they will stagnate and eventually collapse one way or another. You need a healthy, happy populace with enough money to spend on luxuries and shit to have a healthy economy
>You need a healthy, happy populace with enough money to spend on luxuries and shit to have a healthy economy
That's, like, the future and shit. Gotta get muh yearly bonuses this year. We can worry about the future in, like, the future.
This is how businesses think.
It depends. Imagine to be born in the dawn of personal computer, you make the big money, drive porsche 911 turbo that have fuel consumption of small country and want to kill you, bang models, snort coke, bang more models don't give a fuck about political correctness and public image because Internet doesn't exist and media don't care because 99% of all billionaires do that. In today times you will be regarded as "that guy invented the computers". In today times you have to watch every word you say, have to double and triple check every place you go, because negative press can destroy you. In 30 years someone like Zuckerberg will be able to destroy you if he want because you do one or two stupid shit when you were 9 grade, same goes for the normal people, there will be record for all your life like it or not. I think if you do well and are big name in technology the past is better and if you are normie the present is better. In the future I see only shit.
>Life is getting hard
>Back in 23 they stopped supporting physical media
>24 there was the The attack from china
>Someone opened a door
>Clinton gave the NSA all the power they wanted
>In 25 the hiding law was passed
>It was illegal to hid your self online and off
>The pushback fell after several media outlets pushed propaganda
>28 The regulation of special information ammement
>All copies of anything deemed special were destroyed
>Most of physical storage was destroyed
>33 Programmers felt a hard sting as it became Illegal to use any program not passed by the "Internet safety council for anti terrorism"
>38 All non approved computing devices suffered a hack that bricked them
>39 Your phone and laptop becomes your government identity
>42 spring Germany has erupted into cival war following the worlds direction for computing.
>Most of Europe start crumbling as civil war spreads
>By summer Islam is no longer the most practiced religion
>Canada's ability to protect its citizens fail
>All people are shipped north to stay off grid as the US comes over the parallel
>Fall, Great China has entered africa
>Winter, North and south america fly one flag now.
You're spot on.
Back in the 90s you had people of all kinds and flavors and every kind of weird hobby out there. People even dressed in a funny way and loved to create shit. It was a very optimistic decade over all because at the time people were naive. Nowadays people are like a carbon copy of each other because they don't need to think, the media does it for them by dumping a massive amount of easily digestable information right through their throats.
I guess when you don't have easy access to every kind of info at the tip of your fingers like we have now, you have to create your own, exchange experiences and ideas with your friend and make new things. But now, even carefree stuff such as parties have been affected. Back then you'd go to one and you'd see a lot of crazy and funny shit. Nowadays you go and people are just sitting around each other in little closed islands glued to their phone consuming, consuming and consuming, but never creating anything. And the creative naivety has been changed to unproductive, judgemental malice.
Imagination has been killed, which is why even the general pop scene consists of copycating old shit because nobody actually makes anything new, hence the predominant hipster shit style that lives off of copying things that were new decades ago, pessimism is at an all time high and I think that says a lot about the current mindset of a society.
>I can honestly say I don't miss growing up in the days of DOS or 56k dial-up
No fucking shit. The fact that anybody could possibly look back fondly on this is a monument to pseudo-intellectual hipsterism.
I feel I've been born at a time when the foundation of technological innovation has been laid out, leaving the more surface level and tangible innovations to people like me. Which is good, because I'm more of a front-end person than anything.
20 years in the future I feel it would be much harder to jump on the train because all the ideas are taken.
Do you think that this is a bad idea? If so, why?
I think it is best for everyone to dismantle Russian nukes. Also, nuclear energy is one of the best (if not the best) energy production techniques.
I mean there's tons of uranium in the ground, we are never going to use it all.
> yearly consumption of 65 000 tons
means about 90 years of uranium, and it's all quite easy to mine.
After that, there's 4 000 000 000 tons of uranium in the seawater, giving us ENOUGH fuel.
>non approved computing devices suffered a hack that bricked them
b-but there's always a single device staying unused, not connected to the internet, not connected to the power
How would they hack it?
Same year, same feels. When I got one it was a 486 Compaq. But it forced me into learning Linux, so it's ok.
What about starting it now? Someone knows how to create TCP/IP replacements?
Man, you can run every single game from SNES!
Third world fag here. Jumping from 56k (0.5 k downloadd) to ADSL (20k downloads) was monstrous.
Xe's not entirely wrong.
Men have this insufferable ego where they pretend to be stoic alpha males but are unbelievably juvenile.
Most people people are juvenile morons as a blanket statement anyway, though.
The 90s were really an awesome decade to be growing up in. Computers and the web were just exploding all over the place, except you still needed to be technically competent (especially in the early 90s) to really appreciate/use them. Nowadays you don't. Anyone who did some growing up before Windows 95 came out will understand.
You are a monumentally autistic excuse for a human being. Do you even think before you type or do you just shit in your hand and throw it at the keyboard?
You're saying that the 1990s was an "awesome" decade to grow up in because the technology was HARDER to use? This is so fucking stupid and lacking of self awareness that you've given me a goddamn coronary
Unbelievably stupid and pseudo-intellectual. That mentality is absolutely cancerous.
The entire concept of a user interface is to be a seamless extension of yourself. A user interface is a method, do you understand?
You'd rather that software were needlessly convoluted and hinder potentially millions of man hours and hold back the rate at which technology progresses for no other reason to superficially inflate your ego.
Punch yourself in the throat, please and thank you. I am not an angry person, you are just monumentally stupid and represent something that deserves to be vilified.
That's an absolute lie, and if objective logic won't convince you take a look at the plethora of statistics showing that this is the smartest and most "productive" generation of humans that has ever existed by an exponential margin.
>technology breeds stupidity!
>convenience breeds stupidity!
>everyone is a mindless consumer whore!
>everyone is a bleating retard!
>everyone but me!
>This is so fucking stupid and lacking of self awareness that you've given me a goddamn coronary
you honestly believe the retarded should have access to this?
look at what 4chans become.. bunch of retarded 10 year olds thinking they're clever.
now everyone has access to how to kill someone and get away with it
sacks of shit cyberstalking and identity theft at uncontrollable levels.
it wont last long now regardless.
I was born early 90's. I missed a lot of early computers, but I still had my fair share of the then current stuff. I wouldn't change it because I appreciate the frame of reference.
I also think that computers are going to become so dumbed down that even being able to open up an options menu will get you labeled as a wizard.
I want to think you're trolling, because everything you just said was moronic or objectively untrue.
Technology is a catalyst for slingshotting humanity into a golden age of virtually everything. You're extremely hard pressed to find something that has not become much better in recent years due to the influx and exponential growth of technology.
>Resource depletion is very real and will affect everybody regardless of country.
The effects will be middleclass and rich people drowning in slave trader boats, thinking they got a actual shot at entering the west.
Its not even significant.
People will die in starvation in the third world, and its fine, because that is how being a part of a population of long term bad decision making works.
Millennials are the greatest generation in the history of humans in every way imaginable, you fucking pseudo-intellectual sperglord.
I refuse to believe that you're so lazy that you can't be bothered to do a quick Google search on the exponential growth of human intelligence and prosperity, so you must be going out of your way to feel profound because you're insecure. There's a word for it, and it's called 'pseudo-intellectual"
You are an unbelievably stupid individual who goes out of your way to try and feel profound even when shown objective statistics that shows that you are not a profound intellectual.
Who would miss you if you died? Your mother? Would your mother even really care, or did she realize that you wouldn't grow out of your pseudo-intellectualism when you were around 12 and begrudgingly rolls her eyes every time you give her a speech about how you were born in "le wrong generation"
To be fair, things actually become worse, but only the older generations will actually notice and complain about it.
The younger generation was born into it, so it's really all they know, they certainly aren't going to complain about it unlike their grandparents.
Absolutely everything is consistently getting better at an exponential rate.
The only person who could possibly believe otherwise is a moronic pseudo-intellectual who feels a need to desperately cling onto profundity.
Newflash: Your grandparents are borderline retarded compared to the intelligence of millenials. Literally borderline retarded This is a fact.
>had i been born in the late 70s i would have been a systems programmer most likely due to C64 and other home computers that let you tinker with them
>had i been born in the 2000s or late 90s i would have been some other kind of programmer because tools to program and develop are so easy to use and advanced
>born right in the middle when windows was king, no dev tools to play with
>end up getting a degree in music
please kill me forever
What good is intelligence when kids don't even want to make friends offline, or play outside, or learn to write, or even do basic math?
All they want is instant gratification by pushing a button, and they want it now.
Kids play inside on their computers and game consoles because it's fucking awesome.
You're telling me that if people in the 60s had the ability to play Batllefield they'd be outside playing sports? That's fucking absurd.
Also, learning to write and basic math? What fucking drugs are you on?
This is the most educated generation of humans that's ever existed.
What "good" this intelligence is is an influx of engineers, scientists, doctors and computer programmers building a brighter future.
I'm in my early twenties and I've loved tech since forever. I don't know how tech will be in twenty years, but here's hoping it's like the leap during the 90s and the new milenia.
Dial-up can go fuck itself, I don't miss it at all.
Oh, okay. So because of one cherrypicked scenaro where people were more accustomed to user-friendly interfaces and they had to hesitate to find a feature it clearly means that this generation is full of idiots.
The average IQ of the people living when your grandpappy growing up was 80. This borders on mentally retarded and incapable of attending a public school system.
>someone actually believes and is afraid of this bullshit nonsense tinfoil tales about how we all gonna use thin clients and shit
There's a reason PC is a thing. Because not all people are as dumb as /g/ likes to ridicule and they actually care about owning their computers. There's also a reason why companies have their own servers and infrastructure. Holy shit you don't actually believe enterprises will EVER completely rely on the botnet?
>Because not all people are as dumb as /g/ likes to ridicule and they actually care about owning their computers.
Unfortunately that is something that can be "educated" out. Such as by teaching children with cheap, largely disposable tablets, all connected to "the cloud".
The future of "personal computing" is grim.
My age is no more relevant than the color of my skin.
Also, 15 year olds are the pseudo-intellectuals like the guy I replied to bitching about how everything today sucks and they were born in "le wrong generation"
What reason will anyone have to question the cloud and their thin clients when it's the only thing they've ever known?
The closest any end user will come to programming will be sandboxed scripting languages that resemble Scratch and in no way will they let you run software outside of the sandbox of your web browser.
People will quickly grasp the concept of being dependent on the network and cloud service provider or being able to perform computing locally. And while it is a fact that average person isn't that tech-savvy, I don't think people are dumb and ineducable.
This image is funny, but when people use the serious version of that quote, fuck it's retarded. First of all, no matter what era you where born in, you probably weren't destined to be some explorer anyway. Second of all, there is still plenty to explore on earth, and surely nothing is stopping you from becoming an astronaut and exploring "the galaxy" whatever that means; you could have already done that 40 years ago.
> tfw my first OS was Windows 98 and I just barely missed it
I also used Mac OS 9 (?, could have been 8) at school.
But I'm pretty sure I had experience with Windows first.
Fuck. And I kept using Windows 98 until 2007, when I moved to Windows XP. I think I used that until I moved to Ubuntu in 2012. And yes, I did have plenty of experience with Windows Vista and Windows 7, I just never really bothered with them at home. I also had a lot of experience with Windows 8.
That'd be the case if you were more than 20. Most people browsing 4chan are in their twenties, like OP said, so you have absolutely no reason to be insecure about your age unless you're underage.
It actually kind of seems sad to me that children growing up today will never be able to experience the way technology was before you had to log into your Google, Microsoft, or Apple accounts just to use your computer.
>have any of you had to get your porn from a playboy bought at 1am from gas station? no, it's all free and delivered to your screen at the click of a button.
It's TOO easy to get. If it wasn't so easy for us in the first place, maybe so many people here wouldn't be so dependant on it.
>People will quickly grasp the concept of being dependent on the network and cloud service provider
No they won't. Common people want convenience first. As long as the provider provides, they won't care how. Look at Apple's popularity for evidence.
>or being able to perform computing locally.
The problem is people are actively being trained into being consumers. Consumers don't need local computing.
>And while it is a fact that average person isn't that tech-savvy, I don't think people are dumb and ineducable.
For your sake I hope you're just an idealist rather than seriously that naive.
I live in a small European country where, for some reason (hint), tablets are cheap as dirt. In the last couple of years, children have been starting school with a new problem: they can't pick up a pencil and write their ABCs properly. But, surprise surprise, they can use a tablet just fine. You tell me that isn't a sign of things to come.
>That'd be the case if you were white. Most people browsing 4chan are 75% Caucasian, like OP said, so you have absolutely no reason to be insecure about your age unless you're colored.
Confirmed for moron with no critical thinking.
Let me spell it out: This is not a conversation about if I am underage, this is a conversation about the merit of being prejudiced against somebody because they're of a different age from you.
My argument being that prejudice is prejudice, and ageism is equally (by an objective definition in the dictionary) as bigoted as racism.
>on a technology discussion board
>knows so little about the power of technology that landing a man on the moon couldn't be possible
Damn NASA and their flying rockets it's all smoke and mirrors!
Okay, but if you went back 50 years, you could probably chart SOME new territory, and that was around that time that you could start exploring "the galaxy".
Not that it really matters, it's still new to you.
But seriously, who gives a fuck, most people probably wouldn't have even became explorers if they had the chance.
'97 fag here too, though my birthday isn't until September.
I still have this very old dinosaur from 2000 that my parents never threw away, I keep my porn on there because nobody would ever think to look there.
Was also briefly considering just putting them on a flashdrive and storing it in the walls of my house.
Fuck it, you're right.
What "exploring the world" meant was drifting aimlessly in the ocean for 4 months in the vague and unlikely hope that you'll find new land, living on a restricted diet of heavily salted imperishables and hoping that you don't get a splinter and die of 8 different diseases.
Not him, and I don't have physical porn myself, however, I understand why people do it. You can waste a huge amount of time just looking for what you will look at. So if you find something good, might as well save it for later.
486dx2 66 to pentium 233
pentium 233 to p3 667
p3 667 to p4 1.7
p4 1.7 to a64 3500+
a64 3500+ to ax2 7750be
>multitasking doesn't slow shit down, nice
ax2 7750be to fx8320
>m-more multitasking, long operations take much less time, but otherwise doesn't feel all that much different
I just see any other solution as being more viable.
Put it in an obscure folder on your computer, put it on something like Dropbox, or something, get creative. Physical media is dead son.
Or you know, don't do that, and just encrypt it. You can always "forget the password" or say it's not yours if someone finds it. The latter would work if the place you put it isn't a place exclusively used by you. Also, I wonder if it would be possible to just encrypt part of it, in case someone does want to encrypt it. Or maybe do something so that it doesn't even show up on the computer unless you do something, so if someone goes in for an inspection, it just conveniently be "broken".
Is this what people teach at school in America now? That is the single most retarded thing I've seen today, and I've seen a whole lot of retarded stuff today.
Bigoted? How the hell am I bigoted? It's not like you're stuck being 14 or whatever age you are, you grow up like everybody and with age you gain more experience that will hopefully make you more intelligent. Of course I'll value somebody's opinions less if they're younger unless they're geniuses who can easily hold a conversation with adults without having to feel insecure about their age. Of course I'll naturally discard younger people's opinions much easier because of their age, because we've all been there.
Being older is not a goddamn privilege because everybody grows up, so please try to refrain from posting this kind of bullshit elsewhere.
born in 1967 bitches
>trs-80 in grade school
>played first video game in grade school (Space Wars)
>apple ][ in high school
>video arcades everywhere
>128k mac in college
>golden age of pinball machines
>tfw doom first released
>tfw suddenly a wild internet appears
>wireless phones & SMS
>o shit the iPod
>now it's the iPhone
more or less brings us to the present day
the ride has always been fun no matter how shit-tier the tech -- it all looks shit-tier when you look back from the future
Age 34 here, I have no regrets. I started with the Commodore 64, and I feel that in my childhood years I was just the right age to appreciate the new advances in technology. Modern flash memory is just about the only innovation I would've loved to see being available in the 80's. I was cool with everything else.
Not even an Apple fan, but the really of the iPad was a major turning point in history. Before 2010, it was pretty much standard that everyone used a computer, and when they wanted a computer, they wanted a real computer. But in 2010 when Apple released the iPad, it created a huge change in the industry. The tablet industry exploded, with companies rushing to release their own tablets. After 2010, the tablet started being though of by consumers as a viable alternative to the desktop, while desktops started being though of more and more as work/gaming machines.
Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that it wasn't significant in history. I personally don't even like tablets, but this was definitely a historical event.
Also, all those "the desktop is dying" people know nothing about technology, and sound like they have never had a job, and don't realize that someone has to actually design, program, and host the crap that they use on there little tablet.
That being said, the tablet was very significant to history, since it marked a turning point where tablets became normie machines and desktops became le geeky work machines.
It's not retarded, it just escapes your realm of thought because you have no critical thinking skills.
You're putting me down solely based on the grounds that I have an arbitrary feature (my age), with no kind of actual argument with merit to it.
Judge people by the contents of their character, physical details are arbitrary.
Because you're an idiot with no thinking skills, I know you're going to say "well teenagers are idiots"
This is typically true, it's not an absolute. It's also typically true black people have an IQ of 85 and no higher education, this does not mean that you paint all black people with the same brush. Understand?
I really doubt it.
A person growing up back in the days of DOS or win 95 or web 1.0 could easily point to features they found sorely lacking in their computers. The lack of visual interfaces. Slow internet speeds. Ugly design. Etc.
What are the obvious areas for improvement now? Does anybody pick up a reasonably high end smartphone and go "God dammit, this thing is so fucking frustrating!"
Is anyone really unhappy with their download speeds these days?
As much as people like to talk about unbelievable leaps and strides in computing in the coming decades, the truth is that computers right now are a pretty mature technology. Once specs get to the point where every piece of shit laptop has more performance than the user would need, what are the obvious areas of advancement?
For laptops it would be power and cooling, which will require the maturation of parts and design, for desktops it will probably be the implementation of wireless adapters as a standard, and eventually an all in one router/computer/printer/monitor or something like that
In the future cars will run on hybrid technology that combines electric batteries with small combustion engines that burn hydrogen/ammonia/natural gas/maybe alcohol to charge the batteries.
Nuclear energy and, if there's a God, Thorium will provide us with electricity. I see no problem with our future energy needs other than big oil lobbying to keep the alternatives away from the market. the alternatives already exist, we just need to embrase them.
Your arguments are:
>hurr you have no critical thinking skills
>durr age is exactly like skin colour
Did you even read my post? Please tell me exactly where I said or even implied that teenagers are all idiots. And nope, teenagers are not idiots, they just lack exactly what you think I lack: critical thinking, which develops with experience and therefore age.
Are you saying that I should value a toddler's opinion in the same way that I would trust some guy in their twenties'? Because that's exactly your argument.
>Did you even read my post? Please tell me exactly where I said or even implied that teenagers are all idiots.
You admitted yourself that you are prejudiced against teenagers and think their opinions are automatically nullified.
>Are you saying that I should value a toddler's opinion in the same way that I would trust some guy in their twenties'? Because that's exactly your argument.
You should value a toddler's opinion if the toddler has an intelligent opinion. Physical features are an arbitrary detail.
I can't change you, there's no room for reasoning with someone who has their mind made up already. But I hope you don't sleep well at night knowing how astoundingly short-sighted and hypocritical you are.
>You admitted yourself that you are prejudiced against teenagers
Yes, I am biased against people who have a worse understanding of the subject in question.
>and think their opinions are automatically nullified.
I never said, that, read again.
>>>>Of course I'll value somebody's opinions less if they're younger
>You should value a toddler's opinion if the toddler has an intelligent opinion.
NO FUCKING SHIT. I don't expect the toddler to be able to come up with a sound argument for it, though, unless, like I previously mentioned, the toddler is a genius.
>Yes, I am biased against people who have a worse understanding of the subject in question.
Being a teenager does not automatically mean your opinion is of less value.
I understand. Someone's opinion is not automatically worth less because they're a teenager.
>NO FUCKING SHIT. I don't expect the toddler to be able to come up with a sound argument for it, though, unless, like I previously mentioned, the toddler is a genius.
You do not understand.
It is almost universally true that a toddler is a goddamn idiot that can barely even speak. It is not an absolute.
A toddler's opinion is not automatically worth less because they are a toddler.
Do you follow? Let me make it as clear as possible to eliminate any hangups:
It is usually true that teenagers are not very intelligent. It is not universally true every teenager is not intelligent and has nothing intelligent to say. If you rand every teenager with the same label of being unintelligent, you are horribly bigoted and should be ashamed.
Please learn to read.
>>unless, like I previously mentioned, the toddler is a genius.
It is not universally true but it is almost universally true, the possibility of what you mentioned happening are so tiny it shouldn't even be taken in consideration normally.
And for the record, your post was not discarded because you're so obviously an underaged faggot, but because it's stupid.
I'm 19 and I barely avoided social media and having my real name attached to all of my shitty early internet behavior.
It's going to get even worse when everyone can see what you did everyday as a five year old.
Kids 20 years from now will probably have tracking devices implanted like fucking animals too.
All in all, I wouldn't want to be born 20 years from now. Things are only going to get worse for technology and concepts like free speech.
How will politics and PR work in the future, when everyone in the first world will have at least 30 years of embarassing and compromising social media posts attached to their name?
I don't want to be a politician, but I could probably do that 20 years from now since almost everyone else my age looks like shitheads online.
Look at this example. This will follow this idiot to the grave.
This isn't even the worst example.
I'm glad I never did anything as stupid as this dumb little fuck. I'm glad to be a hkv. The alternative just isn't worth it.
I was born in 1984 and growing up in the 90s playing nes and SNES. Then in my teens it was computers the one thing I know is that shit just didn't just work and you had to really know how to set up a pc for a certain game. I spent so many hours making my pc run quakeworld so smooth with mouse polling rates , monitor refresh rates and trying every 3dfx driver I could find. It was an art form getting your PC right and now a days its just plug in and play. You even had to learn to make scripts and write your own cfg
Although I never experienced it since I was born in 93' I almost wish that I could've used 90's technology like some older people on /g/ have.
I wish could experience the growth of some of that shit. I'm sure it was cool as fuck going from dsl to something faster the first time you did it; just small things like that.
the most euphoric experience i ever had was upgrading from a 56k dial up connection to a 512k cable modem.
you could just click on a webpage and it would come up. it was crazy, lol.
Well I jumped from 56kbs right up to 50Mbs like 3years ago. Man this was a big thing: coming from 'downloading this few MB program will take you for ever and every minute costs extra money' and the next day I could just dl everything in no time and surf as long as I want.
>Funny that in 20 years with all the great tech we have, much, much less people will know how on earth it works.
I'm not exactly sure this is really the case: I think the same few % of the population that was computer literate back in the 80's will also be computer literate in 2020. The only thing that changes is that back than this few % where the only ones to use computers at all and 2020 everyone uses a computer/tablet/smartphone... .
Yeah, I think so. I was born in 92 and have had access to a computer since I've been able to use one, and always had one to play around in. Especially since I got my own desktop in around 2003~2005.
Had dial-up internet when I was a kid, ADSL as a teen and now fiber optics. Video games were great, although I didn't have a lot, but I still enjoyed the hell out of them. Great ratio of playing outside / playing inside as a kid, no bullshit android phones filled with "apps" for everyone.
Can't complain at all.
Oh, and mostly because of all this, I'm studying to become a computer engineer.
>spent childhood years playing on a Windows 98
>spent preteen years on Kazaa and Newgrounds
>spent teen years on porn stream sites (Xtube and YouPorn) and Youtube
damn right i was born in the right time
Yeah, but I feel like you sort of expect that ype of advancement to a higher degree than you would have a while back.
Nothing has really ever me say "holy shit, what will they do next."
Sorry m8 but a lot of western countries are still getting overpopulated because they're being envigorated by immigration and/or their poor still breed like rabbits because they aren't educated and don't have any work related reasons for not having kids ("muh career" - what career?)
Japan is weird because it has young people but they're so fucking obsessed with status and work life that they're going off the idea of having sex.
I was born in 1984. I got to be a kid before cell phones and the internet became mainstream. When kids played outside with neighborhood friends, riding bikes, etc. My first console was an NES but since I was kinda poor I could only rent games from the local video store cause the games cost $50 in late 80's/early 90's dollars. Then I got my first desktop in 2000 when desktop sales were huge because of increasing internet use. I feel that I can appreciate new tech more because I can remember old tech.
We will be. I don't think anyone born after the 80's will die of old age. Ever. We'll have medicine that'll push our life spans to at least 150, and by the time we die we should have some form of mind upload; if we aren't batshit insane and riddled with dementia by that stage.
>We're basically at the golden age of the free internet and cheap, inexpensive computing, accessible to anyone.
That shit came and went by 2000. The folks here that really are under 20 basically missed the boat.
>Expect that all to change in 20 years when computers are dumbed down to ultra-thin tablets that only use cloud storage and compilers, along with all forms of encryption are reclassified as cyberweapons, banning the practice of recreational programming and local storage.
I've been pointing this out for years but lazy poor dumbasses that can't be bothered to lift their fingers off of their manginas keep wanting cloud services like the good little whores they are. Lube up a little more, Google needs to slide a bigger dildo in.
>It's only going to get worse from here on out.
No. Shit. Sherlock.
>Savor your modern life while you can.
I've been saving for over a decade, selectively cherry-picking not only useful information for disconnected operation, but also historical information that I can share with my children when they are older.
"Daddy why did..."
"Well, here's what I have on that...see, people were stupid and believed anything that gave them something for nothing. So they were tricked into giving up everything important in exchange for what amounts to trinkets. People talk about how Manhattan was a real estate swindle, but 'The Cloud' makes that look like a child's game of jax."
Except I was born in the right generation, OP. Born in '83 to parents who worked in computers, so I was around them throughout the golden age of the 90s after having even had a bit of experience with them in early childhood the 80s. Anybody who had their teen years in the mid-70s through the late-90s, and was around technology and computers during that time, basically hit the jackpot in terms of growing up and having their early adult-hood take place in the best time you could want, when *significant* new advances were happening very frequently and horizons were expanding dramatically; and to fully appreciate it you had to at least have some technical proficiency. It was an awesome time to be alive.
Sorry that you weren't there for it, anon.