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Why is VLC bad?
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>>45794211
it's laggy, has shitty UI and because it has drivers integrated - if you run into problem - you're screwd
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>>45794235
it le just werk
Also it was made as a network stream viewer, so shit like fucking pausing the god damn video takes a couple seconds just to happen. If you use VLC to watch shit on your hard drive, you're fucking retarded.
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>>45794235
so what's the alternative?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8o9G5DeLQc
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>>45794262
>so shit like fucking pausing the god damn video takes a couple seconds just to happen.

Maybe 5 years ago
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>>45794265
on windows CCCP + MPC-HC
on linux no idea
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It works and is reliable, but it's really slow.
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>mfw VLC plays everything I throw at it instantly with no problems
maybe you guys are just bad with computers lol
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>>45794271
No one gives a shit about anime you fucking manchild.
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>>45794310
Why does it take so long to open videos?
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>>45794211
I use mpc for autismo player because it feels better (no reason really) but when i run into problems i use vlc because it really does just werk.
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>>45794211
It's not "bad", it's just that mpc is better
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>>45794309
It was pretty recent that they fixed that. And it still fucks up when you try to seek. Fucking worthless as a desktop player.
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>>45794211
Because it's programmed by clueless morons who have no idea how to design a video player, mainly.

Even when you try to give them suggestions out of pity, they usually think you're trolling and try to pretend the issues don't exist.

Fuck, a guy from the mpv team had to print out the fucking ITU-R BT.709 specification to get them to believe their matrices were all fucked up.

It shits all over stuff like proper seeking in Matroska, accurate gamma curves/colormatrices, etc.

Honestly, if it didn't have the blessing of using the (infinitely superior) ffmpeg project, I doubt it would be capable of decoding shit at all.

>>45794265
mpv
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>>45794310
On linooox mpv
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>>45794441
>>45794464
but I don't like opening my videos via command line...
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vlc is the only thing I've found that can into DVDs
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>>45794211
because mpv is better
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It's not there's nothing wrong with it it's fine
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I used it for more than 4 years and I never had any problem with it, so I'll just say nothing.
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>>45794503
SMplayer
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>>45794503
Then you're left with 3 options:

1. Use VLC and don't bother
2. Use VLC and fix it to be non-shit
3. Contribute a third-party GUI for mpv

We live in the world of free software. Pick your favorite. (Or pay somebody to do it for you)
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>>45794211
Harmful bloat
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>>45794578
4. http://cmplayer.github.io/
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>>45794211
Because it displays colors incorrectly. If that doesn't matter then it's fine.
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>>45794503
>>45794578
Or just open with mpv like any other sane person.

>>45794441
>Fuck, a guy from the mpv team had to print out the fucking ITU-R BT.709 specification to get them to believe their matrices were all fucked up.
Do have a link to this? It sounds hilarious.
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Font caching a 24 min video on VLC: 40 seconds

On MPC-HC: what's font caching? derp.jpg

Video filters and customization on MPC-HC: 2 seconds right clicking.

VLC: what's customization? derp.jpg
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>>45794692
>lying
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>volume at 200%
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>>45794692
Stop lying on the internet.
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>>45794740
That's right. DOUBLE the volume.
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>>45794742
Then how do you use video filters in vlc?! FFDShow? MadVR? AviSynth?!
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>>45794334
Same here anon
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>>45794685
>Do have a link to this? It sounds hilarious.
I just heard an anecdotal description on IRC, unfortunately.

Speaking of which, another gem: The reason the author of what's now mpv decided to stick with mplayer2 and fork that instead of VLC was because he asked the VLC irc channel why seeking in mkv was so slow and they just accused him of trolling.

And that is why mpv is not based on VLC.
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>>45794740
>>45794755
>has never heard of volume boosting

All modern players have this
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>>45794774
Look out, we have a hardcore videophile amongst us.

Why don't you implement DirectShow support in VLC? Here, I'll link you to the documentation for free: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318195(v=vs.85).aspx

(Ps. It's the worst API you'll ever encounter in your life)
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>>45794513
Is there any way for me to set MPV to automatically use subs for my chinese cartoons like VLC does? I like to play them on my TV and I don't want to get up to use the hotkey all them time.
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>>45794828
Going past 100% volume is stupid and just clips. Just turn the fucking knob on your speakers.
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>>45794848
*all the time.

I accidentally an extra letter.
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>>45794848
slang=eng
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>>45794873
And where do I add that? I don't want to run from a command line. The only editable file I have is fonts.conf, and I don't see anywhere I can add that line.

This is Windows 7, by the way.
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>>45794922
>Windows
I dunno it's in %appdata% or whatever that shit is called. Go google it.
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>>45794930
OH. Ok. I didn't even think to check that folder. I assumed it ran completely contained within its own folder.

>Windows
Yeah, I know, but I gotta be able to play all of my Steam games, on my desktop anyway.
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>>45794857
>Going past 100% volume is stupid and just clips
>clips
VLCfags don't know what that means, all they see is twice as loud.
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the only thing I had was that VLC ran into problems if the stream was to slow, which meant, it would stop and continue playing without any audio, which sucks balls, because I needed to restart it
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>>45794211
It's not bad but sometimes it's not a good indicator of poorly coded or incomplete video.
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>>45795043
Correction: VLCfags speakers are so shitty they can't hear clipping either way
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>>45795126
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>>45794211
it's not, only sperglords claim it's bad
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>>45794857
If your shit is mixed so poorly that the peaks sit anywhere near 0dBFS then that's your problem no the software.
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What should I use on OS X? I mainly watch anime.
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>>45795360
mpv is pretty much best for anything.
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VLC works for me lol
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>>45795324
>Using the full dynamic range is bad
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>>45795324
What? A lot of things are mixed very loudly. Have you never heard of the loudness war? Putting your system above 0dBFS is stupid no matter what. Just turn up the volume on your physical speakers.
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>>45794211
I use VLC to play .flac files. Is there an alternative for Windows? I have Adobe Audition, but I don't like opening a big program just to play .flac audio file.s
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>>45795441
If the peaks sat at -12dBFS, then increasing the output to +6dBFS would still give you 6dB of headroom.

>>45795425
And you're an idiot as well.
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>>45795472
>If the peaks sat at -12dBFS
>picture of audacity with generic MP3 with nothing but green on it
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I have never had an issue with it.
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>>45794310
>MPC-HC
Looks interesting. I'm not downloading something that uses as its logo.

>>45795452 < me
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>>45794310
>CCCP

No, you retard.

You use MPC-HC with MadVR and XySubFilter.
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>>45795493
Hammer and sickle didn't show.
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>>45794211
It's a botnet.
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>>45795484
I was making an example, no idea what you're referring to. Now would you care to attack the argument itself or are you just being an idiot on purpose?
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>>45795472
I have no idea how loud films usually are, but music can be very loud. It's like you have never heard of the loudness war; it's very common for stuff to sit close to 0dBFS. Yeah, I'd like to fix shitty mastering practices too, but that's just not how life is. The point is that there is almost no reason to ever turn your system volume past 0dBFS, and you very likely risk clipping by doing that. Again, turn up the volume on your amp and get all the loudness you want.
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i use K-Lite Mega Codec Pack for video & audio, never had a problem, always get updates
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It's literally the reddit of video players.
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>>45795384
Except for the botnet it comes with. Also, OS X is a botnet.
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>>45795493
what
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>>45795535
No sorry, speakers clip as well if driven past a certain point. No one is contesting that the loudness war exists, that wasn't the point of my post. You can always go over 0dBFS if you know the peaks won't be clipped by doing so. Quit regurgitating to me what you just read on Wikipedia yesterday and have some sense.
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>>45795548
4chan filtered the hammer and sickle unicode Character that CCCP uses as its logo.
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>>45795557
>No sorry, speakers clip as well if driven past a certain point.
No fucking shit, but if you have speakers worth the money; they're not going to clip unless you raise it to ear-damaging levels which you're hopefully not doing.

>You can always go over 0dBFS if you know the peaks won't be clipped by doing so.
There's almost no reason to do this whatsoever. Again, 200% volume is stupid.
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>>45795538
But there's nothing inherently wrong with Reddit.
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>>45795493
CCCP only means combined community codec pack.. it includes MPC-HC already, don't need to download it separately. If you download only MPC-HC with no codecs, it will cause issues with many file formats most likely.

If you hate the commie logo so much, then just follow this alternative method guide:
http://files.nyaa.se/HOW_DID_I_PLAYED_BACK.txt

To play FLAC files in MPC-HC, after installing it, download the official FLAC codec installer from here:
http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/flac/flac-1.3.1-win.zip

I use MPC-HC for both audio and video, so if you wanna try Foobar go for it, but I can't help you if something doesn't work, I've never used it.
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>>45795535
>>45795441
ReplayGain ensures that you're sitting on at most -14 dB or whatever level you configure it to, though.
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>>45795360
mpv
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>>45795781
Ugh, I'm not a fan. I'd rather stuff be at their normal levels instead of screwing around with software and risking undesirable side effects.

>using replaygain just so you can boost software levels
That's pretty stupid anyway.
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>>45795871
>I'd rather stuff be at their normal levels instead of screwing around with software and risking undesirable side effects.
I can't live without ReplayGain because I keep my entire music collection on shuffle. The transitions simply have to be smooth for that to work.

That said, it's not like ReplayGain will clip your shit - it's pretty much designed to make everything a lot quieter than it would normally be, so I just turn up my amp (shock and awe) to compensate. It also means I have the default volume of every other application set to 70%, so they aren't too loud in comparison to music.

>>using replaygain just so you can boost software levels
>That's pretty stupid anyway.
Agreed, just pointing out the fact. But what you describe is also sort of built into ReplayGain, you can set your own custom preamp levels that will be added to what it recommends, so if you want your entire collection to be at -4 dB instead of -14 dB you can just add 10 dB to the preamp, and it will still make sure it never amplifies anything loudly enough to cause clipping.
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>>45795871
>>45795579

I'm starting to think you have no idea how audio processing works.
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>>45795927
It can potentially reduce dynamic range though. I'm not saying it's common, but it's a risk I don't want to take.

I personally don't give a shit about one album being louder or quieter than another, so it's never been something for me.
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>>45795979
>dynamic range
>16 bit precision
nigga you high
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because people claim their chinese girl cartoons look a little better in mpv. if youre a normal non weaboo faggot there is no difference
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>>45795994
You're right I am. Disregard that previous statement.
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>>45795692
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with League of Legends or CoD either. It's just that they're full of 12 year olds.
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VLC is great free software. Can stream and record my screen for free. Plus it plays muh pirated movies just dandy. What the fuck more do I need?
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Videos open in a fucking second for me. Idk what the hell you are bitching about but you're all literally retarded. It's free good software. Why the hell are you complaining you elitist shit stains.
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>>45795500
>>45795500
>MPC-HC with MadVR
Okay so I never listen to /g/ but decided to try it out after using VLC for forever, and I think I see why people prefer it over VLC now. Pausing movies actually happens when I want it and skipping within a file is finally possible. Let's see if it really fixes the random glitches too
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>>45796178
If you think MPC-HC is an improvement, wait 'till you see mpv.
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>>45796239
ayy
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>>45794262
Are you still on a pentium 3, kid?
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>>45796267
Oh no not my chinktoons
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>>45796239

>vlc breaks children's cartoons

vlc is clearly superior
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>>45796336
That's the thing though. I've never had that problem with VLC, even with my chinese cartoons.
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reminder le ebin vlc le corruption happens because other video players just **STOP** playing and pause whereas VLC as a **STREAMING** network player ****BY DESIGN**** just keeps going

reminder that it works on my machine ;)
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>>45796312
>shit program?
>just throw an overclocked i7 at it xddd
I'm amazed it's not written in fucking java.
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How do I install mpv?
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>>45796239
>moe trash
Opinion discarded
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>>45794578
gnome-mpv

https://github.com/gnome-mpv/gnome-mpv

gtk frontend for mpv is being made
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>>45796568
http://mpv.io/installation/
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>>45796645
But what do I do after I download it?
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>>45796699
Install it
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>>45796699
Depends on what OS you use. On Windows you unzip the zip wherever and associate the media files you want to use with it (Open with...). On Linux you should probably already know what to do...
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>>45796218
mpv is fucking trash that doesn't even play anything without crashing
shit eating GNU/retards here only like it because it's ``free''
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>>45796749
I associated the media files, now where is the player? It just plays the music without opening a player.
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>>45796787
Nigga you don't use mpv for music
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>>45796778
>shit eating GNU/retards here only like it because it's ``free''

Isn't VLC free?
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>>45796787
It's not really a music player. Because of ffmpeg it plays p much anything
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>>45796778
>mpv is fucking trash that doesn't even play anything without crashing

Are you sure that you're not just retarded?
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>>45794211
For the price (free) it's pretty awesome. Try MPV as well. Also free.
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>>45795452
foobar you fucking retard
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It has decent deinterlacing options and plays almost all of my ISOs perfectly.
I only use it for ISO files though.
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>>45796778
>mpv is fucking trash that doesn't even play anything without crashing
Interesting. Care to post your settings? Are you using hwdec? Have you added an issue on github?
>shit eating GNU/retards here only like it because it's ``free''
We like it, because it works great. Almost all of our stuff is free, and a good part of that is also great.
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>>45794334
I agree VLC works perfect.... some users are obviously dumb as shit or they should not be using a computer. Maybe should stick to the old tv and cable or satellite
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>>45796950
Just tried MPV, don't see why you would use it unless you don't have a GUI.
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>>45797075
MPV *does* have a graphical interface.
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>try to install mpv
>have to install libass
>try to install libass
>have to install fdibibada or some shit
>some program called pkg-config starts bitching about not being able to find dbadbibiba after I install it
>can't install it as a user, have to install shit as root just to get it working
gg mpvfags.
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>>45797240
>can't install it as a user, have to install shit as root just to get it working
what did you expect idiot
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>>45797240
Use a decent distro and install from repos.
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>>45795517
But so is everything
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>>45795546

This is /g/ everything is a botnet here
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>>45797322
>want to install shit on a computer I don't have root access on
>implying package managers will let me do that with mpv
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>>45797522
>I don't have root access on
Maybe you could get your own computer.
>implying package managers will let me do that with mpv
Pacman does.
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>>45797542
I bet. We'll see if I can install a min system and just install mpv as a user, with nothing outside of the home directory.
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>>45797102
It doesn't look like it. Where are the buttons? It doesn't even have a seek bar to seek through, just a seek indicator.
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>>45797573
If you want to install via autotools, just set the prefix, e.g.:
./configure --prefix=$HOME/mpv

Then make install will install to the specified dir.
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>>45797603
Move the mouse cursor and you'll see the buttons. If that doesn't work, try worth option --osc. If it doesn't work still, you probably have a version compiled w/o osc.
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>>45797605
checking for FRIBIDI... configure: error: Package requirements (fribidi
>= 0.19.0) were not met:

No package 'fribidi' found
you may set the environment variables FRIBIDI_CFLAGS
and FRIBIDI_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
I installed fribidi with --prefix=$HOME, but the pkg-config thing didn't add any pc files or whatever it's looking for.
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>>45797648
Then fucking install fribidi or disable the option, you fucking moron.
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>>45797661
>fribidi
I installed that you moron. How am I going to watch arabic subs without it?
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if you want to roll with the big dawgs use POTPLAYER.
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>>45797751
Pot is pathetic, pal!
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>>45797751
Winners don't do drugs.
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>>45796619
>GTK
Into the trash it goes.
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>>45794211

VLC would be fine if it wasn't for the tearing. It has the worst tearing of any player I've ever used.

MPC-HC 64 bit edition is God tier
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>>45798206
>MPC-HC 64 bit
>God tier
Enjoy your addons, oh wait...
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>>45796778
are you high?

mpv is a powerhouse, it plays absolutely everything - corrupted files, partial files, files with corrupted or missing metadata, etc.

If something doesn't play in mpv it probably won't play in VLC, player2 or MPC-HC either.
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>>45796778
>doesn't even play anything without crashing
upload sample clip that it crashes on, please
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>>45797075
Do you seriously not see how much worse the right image looks?

Look at the upscaling - it's all blurry, indistinct and messy.
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>>45797240
>pkg-config database messed up
Just use Ubuntu's official mpv package if your system is too messed up :^)
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>>45797522
>implying package managers will let me do that with mpv
Nix does. So does ebuild (the backend of portage)

Also, you can just built it locally and use it just find.

$ git clone git@github.com:mpv-player/mpv.git
$ cd mpv
$ ./bootstrap.py
$ ./waf configure
$ ./waf build
$ ./build/mpv chinktunes.mkv
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>mfw plebs still use these fucking standalone players to watch their weaboo animes and yify rips on their 24" LCD
GET MONEY YOU POORFAGS

xbmc htpc on 135" projector masterrace, enjoy your arguing over pointless differences when i can play anything and everything including 3D and including RARed files - even split rars- aka how they arrive via newsgroups/torrents sometimes. all in glorious 1080/7.1

what the fuck are you doing exactly?
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>>45797605
>
make install

deprecated.jpg

we waf now
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>>45798314
>GET MONEY YOU POORFAGS
My screen has 4x your shitty projector's resolution, color space and probably also cost 4x as much.
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>>45798343
but the content you watch doesn't, so it's entirely placebo in the realm of playing media

also a 4k projector is like 70k+

in that respect i'm a poorfag
but compared to you people sitting at computers.. i dunno i guess it's because i have a wife and friends that i watch movies/tv with socially rather than this solo neet experience. i did it in college for a bit when i was poor, so i assume people who do this are poor too, but in the end you're already sacrificing by going with any of these players, so why argue over trivial details that really don't make an impact

personally i'm waiting for like 30" at 60hz before i take my monitors to 4k
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>>45798491
>but the content you watch doesn't
jokes on you, I only watch raw behind the scenes footage in native 4K and wide gamut camera space :^)
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>>45798491
>personally i'm waiting for like 30" at 60hz before i take my monitors to 4k
http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-31MU97-B-4k-ips-led-monitor
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>>45798491
>in the end you're already sacrificing by going with any of these players
And what, pray, do you mean by that?

mpv's rendering is higher quality than 99.9% of professional shit out there
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The real question is: which codec pack to use with MPC-HC? K-Lite? CCP? Something else? And why?
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>>45794692
Font caching is only an issue on Windows.
You need a better operating system.
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>>45801432
like Mountain lion?
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>>45801432
Windows user here, the one time I tried another OS I accidently deleted the entire gui within 2 hours of installing it. Other OS are not safe in my hands.
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>>45801065
Why are you using a codec pack in the year almost 2015
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>>45798265
non that different without having autism
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>>45801432
MPlayer.
Why does a video player need to even think about fonts?
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It's free open source software. It's as bad as you let it be.
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>>45803463
Subtitles?
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>>45802651
Large enough difference in anime to use another player. mpv out of the box produces way better results in video rendering quality thant VLC and it plays everything. MPC-HC can get even higher quality scaling by using madVR as a renderer.
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vlc is inferior to mpv, I use it now, because it just werks
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>>45803463
Because it uses fontconfig. On Linux you get a system wide fontconfig which generates the cache just once, but I guess this mplayer-port creates its own because OS X doens't use fontconfig itself.
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>>45795797
mpv is shit interface wise, I will start using it when they fixed several problems

1 - it can't bookmark videos
2 - osc changes size depending on video resolution, which makes it impossible to use and ugly sometimes
3 - doesn't have a subtitle downloader like mpchc
4 - can't load next file in folder

when they fix all these problems I will use mpv as my favorite player because in quality there's nothing better
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>>45794262
It pauses directly for me, i think you just have a shit pc
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>>45794441
Can you use SVP with MPV?
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