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Palm Top edition.
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Doesn't carrying around a million adapters defeat the entire purpose of carrying a palmtop?
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Excuse me, superior laptop coming through..
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>>45711793
I like when it's overcomplicated with no tangible benefits to my user experience
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>>45711967
Pic related?
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>>45711943
>Excuse me, superior laptop coming through..
Well, you'd better get that shitty ThinkPad out of its way.
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>>45711665
Shit, I kinda want one of these now. Looks a lot sweeter than my Libretto 100CT
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>>45711943
>that fucking huge crack and piece missing on the left

holy shit if you bought it like that you are dumb as fuck
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>>45712055
Try fitting a comfortable keyboard on a tiny machine in another manner.
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Sometimes I wonder who was mad enough to make all the crazy designs. The only one that's cemented is the 700T which was apparently designed for some firm which needed something of such a form factor, just that it also went to market.
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x200 for 120 dollars. Yay or nay?
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>>45712714
>lenovo will never have the balls to do something different like the 701C, Transnote, W700ds, palmtop, or what ever that thing is supposed to be ever again
>all they can do is neuter the thinkpad line further and copy Apple, and do a bad job at it too
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>>45711665
were these things ever practically usefull?
it just seems to amplify the shittiness of netbooks
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>>45712714
I doubt I'll ever get ahold of that IBM unit, maybe one of the other printer laptops of that time.

700T was an odd looking machine, 500 was quirky too, especially with its hinge design, twas too edgy.

Uploading my R400 and T400 bios fucked video at the moment.

If you guys see a unit that is stuck at the ThinkPad splash screen and doesn't get anywhere else after that. See if it has a broken USB, a chance, one of them are contacting metal which like stops it from booting and electrical shock.

Pull out them prongs or just make them not contact anything and you got a booting ThinkPad with a broken USB.
I wouldn't try resoldiering the vertical USBs, they are way too pricey, just get an expresscard USB instead.

>>45712858
A bit much, but I've sold one for that much. Broke even with it.
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>You will never own a TransNote.
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>tfw you will never own a W701
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>lelnovo will never release a W700ds with modern guts
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>>45712916
>>45712929
>>45712957
these feels are too real
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>>45712916
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This might be a retarded question, but the rubberized lid of my x220 is all sparkley. Do all Thinkpads have sparkley lids?
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Is around $318 for a T420, 4gb ram and 128gb ssd, worth it? 1600x1900, i5.
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>>45713931
yes

>>45713951
If it's a good SSD, maybe.
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>>45711665
My T61p died, nVidia GPU. What can I do to fix it? Should I just buy another thinkpad or just a new motherboard?
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>>45712714
why didn't something like this ever take off?
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>>45714003
I think its this:

http://www.thinkpad-parts.com/45N8057-Thinkpad.html

but its not 128gb like the ad sais or like lenovo sais on their website. Though I believe it would be the same as that one.
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>>45714119
>>45714003

Correction, its this:

Lenovo Drive SSD-ASM7 FRU SSD 128GB 7mmH Toshiba 2.5"HG3-128
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>>45714046
I'd just get a new ThinkPad if I were you. Replacing the motherboard is basically buying a new computer, except that it might fail the same way again.

T420 or T520 is probably the next best thing for you.
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>>45714240
Thank you anon
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do you guys all use trackpad/trackpoint?

I don't usually use a laptop, but I got a thinkpad about 2 months ago and I still cannot get used to the trackpoint or touchpad. It makes my fingers hurt and it feels way slower than a mouse.
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>be recording
>getting better at talking
>going off tangents
>camera dies
>fml
>record for a few seconds
Next is the desktop recording for the video.


>>45714274
Say if you bought a T400 or T500 with a cracked screen, you can replace that panel with your dead T61's

Though its not as simple as a lid swap, T4/500 LCD cables are a bit wider than the T/R6x
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So how is this ssd?


Lenovo Drive SSD-ASM7 FRU SSD 128GB 7mmH Toshiba 2.5"HG3-128
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>>45714324
TrackPoint. It felt slow to me at first as well. I'm not sure what to tell you. I guess you start to realize that it's fine. I've got the trackpad disabled in the bios now. I know with the bumpy T420 sticker it really did hurt my fingers to use, and after peeling it off it still wasn't very comfortable. I've never been a big trackpad guy anyway, though.
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>>45714346
Just watched your USB video that ended with the bios lock. I think the videos are a good length, around the 10 minute mark, you've also been uploading way more frequently than I thought you would. It's no worries if you slow down man, take your time with it.

I'm interested to see if you're going to try shorting the bios to remove the password. Otherwise, like you said, it's just a for parts machine.
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>>45714380
Thanks!

I originally thought the camera I had was shit, a Nikon S6300 but with lighting its OK, but it sucks being close up.

It'll do for now at least :P

My upload for ThinkTrap will be less consistent but for the fixings I'll have more of em.
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>>45714346
When's the next video?
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>>45714442
Hopefully tuesday for the eBay buying one.
No promises.
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>>45714046
>>45714240
>>45714346
I'm thinking about buying a W500 as a replacement, do they have any defects as the T61p does?
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>>45714458
'tis too long
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Man, choosing a laptop to buy is rough right now, with broadwell and skywell both looming on the horizon.

Is a t540 a good buy right now? Can be had for 800$ from the outlet, new. 1080p screen and 4800 haswell.
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>>45714575

Nah man. Wait for the 2015 stuff in a couple months. At the very least, you'll be able to get all the 2014 models cheaper and then put the old style ultranav button keyboard in them once the w541 comes out and you can swap its keyboard in.
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>>45714575
four years from now we will still be recommended ThinkPads - except for Haswell gen ThinkPads. Everything else will be fine though.

As in, T540's are shit, don't buy that. If you need a 15" workstation get a Dell Precision.
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Hey /g/
I've found a thinkpad T430 for sale for (an equivalent) of 409 USD. HD+ Display, 320GB 7200rpm drive, with the i5-3380M processor and 4GB of ram. Is this a good deal?
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>>45714753
If you're non-American then it seems good, yeah
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>>45714669
>>45714696
Solid advice, thanks.

Unfortunately I have to get something right now, I'm in America early january and I want to buy the best thing I can before I return to socialist utopia european prices.

I will be doing a lot of FPGA compiling with this machine, which calls for a quad core and generous amounts of RAM. My trusty old T61p is not up to that.

Inspirons seem awfully expensive, is there a deal I'm missing?
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>>45714901
Not him but do you consumer protection systems extend to things bought here in Clapistan?
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>>45714934
Unfortunately not.

At the very least I'd have to pay lokal sales tax for the thing when I return home, which is 19%. That kills half of the savings.
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hey so uh, i have an x200t and the screws holding the keyboard in must have loosened because it won't stay in place. there's nothing holding it in and it keeps dislodging.

how would i go about replacing the screws?
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>>45714968

Get the size of machine screw from the service manual and go buy some that size for a couple dollars
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Just ordered a T420 with 128gb ssd, i5, 4gb ram for $318. Should be coming in this week :)
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>>45714934
holy shit thats my picture....
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>>45715390
I saved it thinking that I should use it as a first step to move away from scissors and membranes. I don't even think I was the guy you were talking to. Still, 20 bucks for the 8 switch sampler kit..
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>>45715423
No i'm not but why the fuck did you save my picture out of curiousity?
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>>45715446
Just to prove i'm not lying.
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that feel when I have a computer more powerful than any thinkpad but want to have a thinkpad again

back when I had a thinkpad, interacting with the machine was a pleasure in itself, merely lifting it and feeling the matte magnesium cover wotuld make me smile, I would sometimes fondle it for no reason, admiring the ruggedness of its design

Now I'm stuck with a consumer HP model which disgusts me
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>>45715423
I've been down the road you're on, and it gets ugly. First you get a Model M because it's cheap and rugged and awesome. It's loud as sin but feels fantastic.

Then you see how cheap some of the cherry stuff is and buy a few $20 boards to try out a couple switches, maybe even the capacitive Topre sort of stuff. You drift toward tkl and 60-75% because the mouse really is so comfortable next to it and a mechanical numpad is less than twenty bucks if you know where to look.

Then you wonder about the oddball switches and dampeners and limited custom keycaps and such.

Then you start customizing things to get them just perfect and throw different weight springs into switches and wire and solder everything yourself.

Then you wind up like me with five keyboards in the closet and an all custom monster built from the mechanical keyboard from a police cruiser.

Good scissor switches are fine. You don't need mechanical. They're very nice but it's a slippery slope.

Really what I want is the new Unicomp 75% if they will finally come out with it. Instead I've got my custom to be the closest thing to it until then, which for all the money and time I've poured into it does beat a lot of modern multi-hundred dollar boards but barely edges out my favorite old BTC capacitive I got for $18.

Only bringing this up because I finally got my Granite R2 Bonus in today with my blue enter and icon backspace that I've needed to complete this thing for months.
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is a t520 with 1600x900 screen a viable option for a "work" laptop in 2014?

I can buy one for 300€ + shipping.

Will the sandy bridge i5 and 4gb ram enough to work as syadmin while keeping other stuff open like office or rdp session etc.?
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>>45712714
My father used to have one of these. He threw it away while cleaning a few years ago.
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>>45716441
No, you'll need a fully stacked out Dell Precision or HP ZBook
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Can i change the display on my Thinkpad if it is the same display (same size, screw layout and connector type) BUT is made for a different model? I want to upgrade, but they don't do 1080p IPS for my model. Even if the display fits, will it work out of the box?
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>>45716730
>tfw can't tell if serious or sarcasm
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>>45716785

Can you give the example you're thinking of?
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Yay
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>>45716866

Well apparently all of these laptops (S440 L440 T431S T440S) have the exact same display and therefore any of those models can use each others display. I'm just wondering if i were to buy a 1080p IPS screen, will it work with a laptop (s440) that previously had a 720p screen? I feel like it won't work, but it should because its the exact same display, just a higher res...
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>>45716896

Yeah, if the size and the connectors are the same. Just look up where the connectors and stuff are located so you don't wind up with something that technically works but needs a lot of work like a t430 using the screen off an x1.
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>>45716896
So long as the graphics chip can out put that res you should be fine.
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>>45716915
So will my laptop just... recognize that the screen is now 1080p at display at that res? What 'm asking really is, is it "plug n' play" or will I have to configure it from another monitor before use?

thanks for help.
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>>45716956

Yeah, it has an AMD something or other with 2GB dedicated.
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>>45716827
Don't tell me you're poor anon.

>i7-4940MX (extreme edition)
>32GB RAM
>Quadro K5100M
>1920x1080 Dreamcolor 10 bit IPS display
>x2 512GB SATA SSDs
>256GB PCI-E SSD
>Blu-Ray
>x2 8 cell long life batteries
>Docking station
>5 year next business day warranty with accidental damage protection and laptop tracing
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>>45717000
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>>45717000
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>>45717000
>with 13.5 minute battery life
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>>45712916
there was a transnote on the german ebay that sold for 150 euros. i didnt get it ;_;
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>>45711665

HP 95-LX reporting in

8086 masterrace
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>>45712916
>TransNote
>a laptop that identifies as a notepad
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>>45717000
>$10,000 laptop
>still has a shitty 1920x1080 screen
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How much would you pay for a 1,4ghz X301 w/ 3g, 128gb ssd, 4gb ddr3 + two new batteries? I could be getting one for 200 dollars.
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>>45715464
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back when I had a thinkpad, interacting with the machine was a pleasure in itself, merely lifting it and feeling the matte magnesium cover wotuld make me smile, I would sometimes fondle it for no reason, admiring the ruggedness of its design

Thinkpads sure are nice machines but that's Macrumors tier
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>>45711665
Is there any reason to get the T420 over the T520 other than price?
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>>45717884
Its more handy when you are traveling much
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>>45717884
maybe you are a pussy faggot that can't lift 6 lbs
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>>45717884
T520 must be FHD.
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>>45717925
is the 1600x900 bad?

I thought only the 1366x768 was shit, and the HD+ was fine
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>>45717955
I have a T520 with a 1600*900 screen, hasn't bothered me these past 3 years.

And I can always replace it with a 1920*1080 panel if I want to.
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>>45718036
should i buy a t520 today?

can i work with it? i don't mean watching 10bit chinese cartoons, i mean keeping 8-9 programs open
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>>45717821
10 bit IPS though
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>>45718051
Really depends on the configuration you go with and what kind of programs you're running. I bought it 3 years ago as a pseudo-desktop replacement. I can run everything I want to run. Reason, Ableton Live, Chrome with eleventy billion tabs, and so on.
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What's a good ThinkPad to get these days?
I haven't been able to keep up on technology or the internet since around 2008...
I used to have a T60 but that's long gone...
I only have a budget of around $250.
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>>45712911
Do you have any screens for sale?, SXGA+ x61T
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Hi /g/entlemen. I have a t61 with a 2.0 t7600 and a nvidia quatro. I use it primarily in bed and honestly for the like $100 that I got it for, I love it. It's in good shape, has like 4 hour battery time and I have the dock.

I only use it in bed for web tasks and I usually throw a movie/animu up in the corner. It runs unreasonably hot. I wouldn't want it on my skin right now. Should I upgrade the CPU and replace a fan? Just get a new model?
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>>45718548
clean it and maybe reapply thermal paste
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>>45718147
I'm a slut for the X-series personally. X201 might do for you in that price range. Otherwise T410. Both of those are a bit under your budget, but anything more recent will be above it. You can take the difference and buy some RAM or something.

What will you use it for?
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>>45717852
I paid $245 for a near mint X300 when a 'decent' one goes for about $150-190

Yeah sounds like a great deal.
Power and performance is worse than the X200, but its build is damn nice that you don't care.

>>45718051
Given its GPU performance is lower than my W700ds and its processor is lower or equal, I'd say you can be OK. I edit audio with audacity, have Photoshop CS in the background while listening to music on Chrome with multiple tabs just fine. Video skips a but during preview under Sony Vegas, takes about an hour to render a 15 minute 1080p video.

1080p can be played on an X61 with 4GB of ram flawlessly, streaming it shouldn be fine on a T520.

>>45718357
I'm gonna sell that X61T after I do the fan swap.
Just gonna put it at auction for $50.

>>45718548
Probably just needs some thermal paste if dusting doesn't work. It makes a BIG difference.
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>>45718958
Thanks. I'm going to use it as my general computer.
The x series is a bit to small though.
My T60 was 1600x1200, so is there a 1920x1200 T410?
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If I were to buy a used X220, about 3 years old, how many years should it still have to live?

My only experience with Thinkpads was with one from the EDGE series and it was...not good (yeah, I read only afterwards they're shit)
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>>45719135
nah, T410 only goes up to 1440x900
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>>45719161
Are they at least IPS?
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>>45719153
Depends what your needs are.

I expect my X220, upgraded to an SSD and 8GB RAM, to last me at least 3 years.
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>>45719174
Nope. High quality laptop screens were really uncommon for a good few years. Not sure why, but everyone gravitated to low resolution and/or worse quality panels.
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>>45719135
1600x900 is the max, but a lot of models didn't come with it like that.
T410s all come with that standard.
I nabbed a T410 with that screen for ~$100 but with a dying 1 hour battery and no cord, they trend around $160-190 in eBay auctions.

Not IPS, only the X2xx came with an IPS option, you're better off getting a heavy dream color HP, I forget if Dell had IPS units.
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which of the x series does /g/ recommend? I just want something I can throw ubuntu on and program with.

About £250 ($390) budget, but would rather not spend that much.

Looking at some x201's?
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>>45719182
Uni stuff and music-related stuff (such as production)
I already have a desktop so I need something light and versatile

>to last me at least 3 years.
So a total of 6 years?
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Ask a guy with an X60s anything
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>>45719215
Posting from my X220 with Ubuntu right now, great machine. Not sure if you can afford that since prices are higher over your way.

X201 is also nice, IMO.
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>>45719215
read guide
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>>45718147
What'd you get locked up for?
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>>45719233
Is there a size difference between the two? I'd want the lightest/smallest tbh.

Found this. Seems pretty decent.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LENOVO-X220-LAPTOP-I5-2-5GHZ-4GB-360GB-W7-PRO-OFFICE-WEBCAM-/121520475427?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item1c4b2f4d23
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>>45719230
Yes.

I usually treat my battery very well so that it has a better overall lifetime, but it will still go to shit eventually. That's probably when I'll decide to get a new laptop rather than new battery.

Otherwise, it's light and portable enough for me, sturdy, very fast and snappy because of the SSD, and the Sandy Bridge i5 and integrated graphics are plenty powerful for everything I do.
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>>45719269
They are both 12" "ultraportables". Just google the dimensions and weight of them..
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>>45719153
>Full voltage 2nd gen i-series dual core processor instead of undervolted
>Three places you can slap in an SSD
>16gb max ram

Pretty good.

But then the one I got recently replaced my ancient 2004 HP Pavilion laptop that I kept for troubleshooting anything wrong with my rig and for travel. That old thing is still trucking along and running XP. Still works fine for basic browsing and stuff. It's surprising how long some things last if they're build halfway decently.

I just saw the x220t with that sweet ips screen and went "For $260, I think it's time to retire the old bird"
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>>45719273
Nice
Did you get it new or used?
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>>45719194
Are those HP laptops even cheap enough for my budget?
I'm kind of low on cash.

>>45719193
Fucking hell. We went BACKWARDS with resolutions?

>>45719251
CP possession.
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>>45719269
They're pretty comparable. I only have an X200s and an X220, and in practice there's no real difference between them when it comes to carrying around. I highly recommend the 9-cell battery too.

>>45719301
> We went BACKWARDS with resolutions?
Yup! I'm not sure what prompted it.
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Building a tower.
Where can I buy a fullsized Thinkpad Case?
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>>45719351
You mean a Thinkcentre? Check eBay, craigslist
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>>45719373
I just want to match my laptop, is this a stupid idea?
Are the cases of good build quality, good airflow, etc?
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>>45719414
Well they're meant to sit under a desk in an office environment forgotten about for years, so they should be fine.
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>>45719298
Where did you find it for $260?
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>>45719462

Ebay. They go for that and less. I paid a little more for mine since it had the screen replaced with the better multitouch one from the x230t.
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>>45719414
They're quite sturdy. I've never tried building in one so I'm not sure if they have any stupid proprietary shit in them that other vendors do.
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I need a laptop for college. I have a gaming desktop so I can get by with bare minimum graphics. I want something that's sleek, portable and powerful. Also new if possible. I'm on the same boat with these other faggots with my price range (<400). The x series looks nice but im not sure yet...
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>>45719650

t or x, but x is pretty great.
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>>45719650
> new
> <400
kek
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What thinkpad to upgrade my X61T SXGA+?

>There's nothing
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>>45719661
T and X both look really nice. If i can't find anything that I like i might move to Acer. My last HP was a toaster so im staying away from them.
>>45719696
>If possible
Feg
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>>45719650
x220 bruh. x230 if you're a faggot and like chiclet keyboards. Get the Xcarbon if you literally have cocks inside you now.
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>>45719744
Also
> new
> current model thinkpads
kek
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>>45715446
why the fuck didn't you expect anyone to download anything that's posted on a public forum?
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>>45719650
x220 is the way to go. You won't get it new, but you can't beat the performance/price/battery life, especially with the optional splice battery.
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>>45719750
>>45719898
I'm looking at a x220 right now, but i found a T510 for the same price and it has a little bit better specs (Optical, 64 bit, but -.1Ghz)
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>>45719153
Anyway, while searching offers on the web I found a X220 for 449 CHF ($467), with this specs

- Intel® Core™ i5-2520M Processor (3M Cache, up to 3.20 GHz)
- 8 GB DDR3 RAM
- 320 GB HD

What do you guys think?
I've also looked for the X240 but I don't really like the keyboard and overall design, and the prices (used) go from 900 and onwards
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>>45719974
You can get them with the same specs for half that in murrica. No clue what your local market is like.
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>>45719974
>>45720007
ya i was going to say... i found 2 at $310, don't think they ship internationally tho
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>>45720007
With the same amount of RAM and HD?
I've looked on ebay.com too, but price didn't differ much
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>>45715446
Because it was fun
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>>45718069
He probably doesn't even know what 10-bit or ISP is.
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Looking to buy x220t once I spot a good deal, are there any issues with this model I should be aware of? I heard heard something of digitizer accuracy on the screen edges, but that should be solvable using proper drivers, right?
Also, how does the x220t work with 8.1 and Linux?
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>>45712055
Where may I obtain this?
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>>45719300
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
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x220 vs 2560p?

with hp I can put easily a second drive, and any drive doesn't have size problem. that's what i read
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>>45720420
sry m8 I'm very new
I should have guessed though
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>>45717000
>blu ray player
this killed me
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When will we get a Thinkpad with a different aspect ratio than 16:9?
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>>45720556
>>45719744
I'm pulling the gun on a Acer Aspire E5-571-35LV for $350. Talk me out of it /g/
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>>45711943
I have an x220 and its a good machine. I just wish it had a better screen. It'd be perfect otherwise.
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>>45720556
When any other aspect ratio becomes cheaper to produce and the consumers want it.

>>45720636
Acer probably makes the worst laptops on the market out of all of the manufacturers. That shit is cheap for a reason, don't buy that.

The point of buying used ThinkPads is because they were previously premium laptops that cost $1000-2000 new.
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>>45720656

You can get the ips screen pretty cheap and put it in yourself.
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I have a T60 and wondering what SSD should I get? I'm also planning to get another 2gb of RAM wondering what else is helpful to upgrade on it.
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Can someone confirm this

>>45720007
>>45720050

I've searched but found nothing
am I a retard?
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>>45720636
>Acer Aspire E5-571-35LV
>Intel Core i3-4030U 1.80 GHz
>15.6" HD (1366 x 768) 16:9
>Intel Shared Memory
>4 GB, DDR3L SDRAM
>$350

or

>T420/T520
>14"/15.6"
>i5-i7 Sandy Vagoo
>Intel/nVIDIA
>4-8GB RAM
>$150-300
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>>45720676
Intel 520 series or 730 series, Samsung 840 EVO/PRO or 850 PRO, Crucial MX100 or M550
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>>45715464
I know that feel
this macbook isnt fun to use at all, and the only reason i have it is because of the specs inside
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>>45720713
You're just maxing the SATA speeds and speed up boot time, just buy what's the cheapest.

My brand's Crucial though.
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>>45720713
Ima go with the Curcial MX100
Do you recommend upgrading anything else on the T60?
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>>45720500
I'd VV's VVs
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newfag here, what in the fuck are thinkpads?
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>>45719301
>CP possession
Kek seriously?
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>>45714346
What brand keyboard? Looks very nice!!
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>>45720872
My dick ;)
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>>45720872

>150 replies showing exactly what thinkpads are
>durr guise wot iz tinkpad

you might be legitimately stupid
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>>45720821
What if he decides to upgrade his laptop in a year? He'll be stuck with that cheap shitty SSD.
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>>45720711
Where the fuck can someone get those specs for $150-300?
>talking out your ass to preserve your thinkpad fetish
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>>45720964
I got my T420 for $250 little over a year ago, it was a good deal at the time but now that's what they regularly go for. You can find resellers on Ebay that sell them for that much at Buy It Now prices, such as ArrowDirect. Quite a few people on these threads have bought one from them.

But personally, I only like to do local trades and dealing face to face.
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>>45720948
>T60
>upgrading
>in a year
Nah, he'll be stuck with us for a while.
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>>45720964
NO HDD, batt, etc. goes around cheap. If you're lucky you can find for parts <$100 with easy to fix problem like fan error.
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>>45720709
shit me
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>>45711665
I miss this formfactor so god damn much
>>45717738
Had a 95 then moved to the 200 for years, finally gave it up when the display started going.
>>45719327
yeah it's depressing
I keep thinking about putting together a raspberry pi palm top, there's finally screens out there at a good size/res that aren't too expensive. I need another project like I need a hole in the head though.
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>>45720964
>buy T420 with busted LCD for $50
>buy another that doesn't power up for $50
Use your imagination.
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>>45719351
I think ThinkCentre cases use BTX, but that may just be certain ones.
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420 or 420s, /g/?
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>>45720964
my friend got a t420 for 250 with 1600x900 screen, the fastest i5, and an nividia gpu
battery was the small one though and it was only at 77% capacity
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>>45721351
more portable but lower battery life and has soldered CPU = T420s

bulky but fully upgradeable = T420
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>>45721760
>soldered CPU
holly fuck, no
T420 then, thanks
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what do you thinkfags use the thinkvantage button for on linux?
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Maybe a dumb question. How do I change the thermal paste on my X200t? Please don't tell me that I have to remove the board.
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>>45722129
IIRC the heatsinks are on the bottom of the board for most X-series, including the X200.

So, probably, yes.

You could just take off your keyboard and check.
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>>45722129
Best to download the maintenance manual, but I'm pretty sure the x200t requires mobo removal because the heat sinks are on the bottom.
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Hey fellow /g/entoomen, how's the vertical screen space on the X200s vs the X60s?
Is it the same?
Gonna be using it for coding on the go.
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>>45722738
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Models

lists the available specs for pretty much every model ThinkPad
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>tfw i got a x60 for 40€ in ok condition

I dont even have a use for this.
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Hey guys, my BIOS is locked on my X200s, wat do?
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>>45722856
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>>45722874
Yeah, yeah, I know, but wat do?
Should I just pull the CMOS battery?
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>>45722747
Yeah, I know, but it doesn't list the exact vertical size of the screen in inches/centimeters, which is what I was asking for.
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>>45722931
wont work, pretty sure
hope you didn't spend to much on it
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>>45723020
They are both 12.1" from corner to opposite corner, X60s is 4:3 and X200s is 8:5, do the math
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>>45719351
It can be fun, but I want to have a build from a Sun Microsystems Ultra 20 case

>>45722931
Dont do that.
Just install an OS on a different machine, swap hard drives and be done with it.
Pulling the CMOS will probably fuck it worse, potential FUBAR as well.
I'll make a video about that though.

>>45723020
Looks like you're going to find out for yourself and add it on ThinkWiki then!
Thanks anon!!! :D
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How is playing Football Manager and do music stuff (djing and video editing) on x220? Is screen size (not to resolution) too small? I prefer it to T420, only concern is no second HDD and backlight keyboard.
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>>45723511
>1970+44
>Needing a backlit keyboard
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>>45723414
>>45723132
I can't into math, pls halp
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>>45723654
Yer lucky I got a good buzz going on and procrastinating.


Going off my X61T
screen height is 7 3/8" or 19CM
screen length is 9 3/4" or 25.3CM

Bezel for the X61T
H 9 1/4
L 10 3/4

I don't have an X200, good ruck
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>>45719351
Buy a ThinkPad USB keyboard, some old IBM case and monitor, and profit.
Mod it to hell. You may want to locate an R50 2K panel and install it inside an old gutted 15" LCD monitor from IBM.
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>>45723540
Not fundamental I know, but might be useful when doing stuff in real time or live at night.
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>>45722931
>that comfy feel when removing an X220 supervisor password is piss easy
>that comfy feel when you only need a paperclip
>that comfy feel when i5 X220 with warranty for $100
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also should i try getting away with JB welding a ThinkPads magnesium frame rather then trying to weld it?
I'm going to cut a 14.1" widescreen chassis to fit onto a 15" T60p unit.

either the R400 or T400 is going to go in there, but I am unsure how I will go about it, I have to cut the frame because when I modified the T60p's frame, it wasn't that rigid for the W500 and I believe it was part of the culprit that short it out.
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picked up a 9 cell X220 i5 2.5GHZ 8GB 360GB HD for £200 from a mate.

Really fucking looking forward to it...
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I bought a T420 with an Nvidia GPU and a 9-cell battery. $350. Might have been a little overpriced, but my parents were paying, so I wanted to go with something quick instead of hunting around.

Did I do good? I got fed up with modern laptops when I bought a $300 Asus and the hard drive was utter shit and the battery started misreporting its charge and the keyboard lost a key and one of the USB ports went out leaving me with one.
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>>45723511
I have no idea about Football manager (mine plays Civ V well enough if that's any help). You should be fine with DJing, video editing might take a while to render. I personally prefer the screen size. I believe you can have 2 hard drives in the X220; one an MSATA boot drive under the palm rest and one a standard drive in the hard drive bay.
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>>45725287
JB weld would be really ghetto, but a lot easier to do than actual welding
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Tried to install Windows 8.1 via USB on my X220 instead of using Win7 Lenovo edition, but apparently drivers are missing. This is the first time I got this message during a windows install and unfortunately I didn't get told what exactly was missing. Is this a known problem?
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Is a T500 with an Intel Core 2 Duo P8400 and a 1680x1050 screen still worth it? 4GB of ram I think, I'll probably add an SSD as soon as I get it. With Windows 7 for general office stuff, watching a few videos and maybe playing 2D games, emulating old shit. Yes or no?
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>>45726814
I did not encounter that problem myself. However, I quickly fled Windows 8, so maybe the Thinkpad Gods are trying to tell you something.
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>>45726814
Lenovo didn't make proper drivers for Windows 8 for Sandy Bridge machines.

This is commonly known.

All the essentials should work though if you really wanted to use it.
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>>45726989
I can't even install it without loading the unknown ones manually. Should I install 7 clean then or is the recovery image adviced?
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Did older Thinkpads really have fully mechanical keyswitches like on the Model M?
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>>45715446
/g/ is weird man
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>>45715446
Because its something they probably want?
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>>45711665
> dad got me a t420 for christmas
> can't open until christmas
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>>45715446
niqqa who knows, but does it matter?
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>>45727131
no, mechanical switches are way too big for laptops

ThinkPads use scissor switches and have been for awhile
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>>45711665
Lenovo ThinkPad W520 427637U 15.6" LED Notebook - Core i7 i7-2720QM 2.2GHz

or

Lenovo Thinkpad X220 with an i7

or

Lenovo T430

which one /g/? my max price is like 520$

I need a good laptop for school and one that I can use consistently because I have no desktop so I use my laptop as a desktop meaning I use my laptop ~8 hours a day.
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>>45727233
I mean I guess strictly speaking scissor switches are "mechanical" but as you said, they are not what people mean when they talk about mechanical keyboards
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>>45727351
Good for school sounds like X series to me.
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>>45727373

It's not really school use perse all I would do is take notes on it....
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So the x250/t450 is coming out soon with the return of the physical trackpoint buttons apparently, anyone hyped about it?
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>>45726896
Are the integrated graphics okay for 2D games and HD videos? Also, will I really notice a huge difference with the core 2 compared to a "modern" i5 or i3 at the same clockspeeds?
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So I'm looking at getting a thinkpad for school and very minimal gaming. Found this on eBay recently:
itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-4180-WND-14-WXGA-2-50GHz-CORE-i5-2520M-4GB-320GB-/251714824564?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item3a9b5f6974
Any good?
Need some feedback. If not, what would you suggest?
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>>45727386
Which is why an X series makes sense. Light, can carry to class, don't need dedicated graphics to take notes.

>>45727401
Yes, I'll be quite happy to purchase one in 2-4 years once they're out on the used market.
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>>45727233
>no, mechanical switches are way too big for laptops
Well I guess we'll wait and see about that. http://event.msicomputer.com/gt80titan/
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I think I saw a pic in a Thinkpad general of a lid that was stripped of the black rubber coating and it looked pretty neat. Am I dreaming? If not, does anybody know how that was done?
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>>45727412
I bought an x240 and im pretty happy with it but physical trackpoint buttons would make it nicer. Im only hyped to find out if i can replace my trackpad with a newer one that has the 3 buttons.
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>>45727446
I remember seeing it, the anon did not say how it was done.

>>45727479
I am home for the holidays and had my X220 side to side with my dad's X240. Jesus fuck is the X240 a bad machine in comparison. If the trackpad can be replaced that's a step in the right direction though.
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>>45727535
Why do you think its bad?
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>>45727446
>>45727535
I changed my google-fu terms and found this:

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Photos/Titanium-Cover-on-older-thinkpads-EXPOSED/td-p/596425

Looks like a fair amount of work.
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I have a X60 and the other day I spilled my water all over it. I freaked out at first but then remembered it was a Thinkpad. I let it dry out and then booted it up again.

Thanks, Thinkpad.
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>>45727561
I actually like the new keyboard keys, but I do not like what they did to the top row at all. The trackpad makes using the trackpoint an exercise in frustration and it's easy to brush the trackpad while typing and make the cursor jump (he said he has that problem as well and it's a common complaint around his office). It is far less user-serviceable than the X220. The RAM is soldered in, keyboard replacement involves full disassembly and repasting the heatsink. You have to take the whole back cover off to swap the hard drive. In this regard it's like a Macbookification of what was once great about Thinkpads. Its screen is pretty bad, though if you were to buy one personally you have the option of 1080p IPS which is good.

IMO I would not buy one even in the future when they are available used for >$300. I am hopeful about the X250, but afaik it just fixes the touchpad and leaves the serviceability in a shitty state.
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>>45727652
I guess different people use it differently.
Top row is a pretty small. Only thing that i didnt like was the end/insert key but i changed that with a registry edit.
trackpad is off so i havent had any problem with it.
I dont really get what you mean by less user serviceable. Just about everything you can replace is accessible by just popping off the bottom.
Ram is not soldered in.
Keyboard replacement I heard is more difficult but screen replacement was made a lot easier.
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>>45727412
alright just placed my order for the x220.
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>>45727718
Sorry, I had it mixed up with the X1 Carbon on the RAM. The X240 still has only one slot and a silly max of 8GB. Everything else still stands, and keyboards wear out more frequently than screens, so I'm not sure that comes out as a net positive.
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>>45727735
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-FingerReader-Bluetooth-Professional/dp/B0068FAMS6/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1419222032&sr=1-2&keywords=Lenovo+Thinkpad+X220

this right here
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So what are the chances the T450/550 fixes the keyboard/trackpoint/touchpad situation
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>>45727860
Looks like the trackpoint buttons are back if the leaked images of the X250 are any indication. Everything else seems to be the same.
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>>45727860
Keyboards chiclet style isnt going away.
Trackpoint will be fixed
Trackpad have gotten macbook grade so that will be nice too
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>>45727906
>>45727913
Hmm, well that's an improvement at least. I guess I can deal with the new keyboard and a clicky trackpad as long as the trackpoint buttons come back.
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>>45727906
Where are these leaked images at?
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>>45713951
no, the screen on the t420 is fuckin atrocious. literally the worst screen ever to be put on a thinkpad
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>>45714346
>elementary os
my top fucking nigger
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>>45728084
AHHHHH SHEIT
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Don't know how legit they are
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