ITT: Computer problems that prove you're ancient > I

>>45672552
>I remember having to reboot to change my IP address or DNS server
When did you ever have to do this?

>>45672552
I remember dialup. For 2014, that's ancient.

>also, look how time ticks on

>>45672556

Windows 95.

>>45672556
Not op
>But windows nt and 2000 had this problem.

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>>45672552

OP here.

> I also remember when windows filesystem was so shitty that an unplanned shutdown, like a power outage, had about a 50% chance of showing you an unreadable file system on boot.

> mfw when you would fix it by rebooting to recovery console to run chkdsk
> mfw you had that 0.3second period in a ten second bootup to press F6 and put a floppy disk in so it would see your storage

> Having to use ftp.exe to download Netscape

>NOT ENOUGH MEMORY. Press Any Key to Continue

Not again! Here we go, editing autoexec.bat. Now, it seems I'll need 2k more base Memory. Of course I want to keep that mouse driver.....
>dos

>>45672592
>yfw this is pretty much still FAT32

>>45672627

Dude plz, memmaker.exe.

>>45672568
I don't remember this, didn't winipcfg allow you to release your IP and get a new one?

>>45672569
Well, I used Windows 2000 actually and I clearly remember that you could. Don't know about Windows NT 4.0 and earlier though.

>>45672627

rem MSCDEX.EXE

prince megahit

>>45672800
lol DOS was a piece of shit (other OSes that existed at the time could address more RAM)

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>It is now safe to shut down your computer
>Click switch that instakills power
>Weird noise from tower
>Click switch on
>See pic
>MFW

>naviscope.exe

>>45672731
>Well, I used Windows 2000 actually

I remember it being nearly the whole reason I upgraded from NT4.0.

Not exactly a computer problem but

>having to wait 5 minutes after turning tv on before using it

>>45673107
why? I'm 27 and i don't remember this

>>45673132
Turning on the tv would just show static and a weird sound effect (staticy and running through frequencies)

It'd last for like 3-4 minutes and you couldn't do anything about it

Spent a long time dealing with this as a kid trying to play games in the morning

Only happened when it was off for a long time

>no keyboard detected! Press F1 to continue...

PS/2 fuck you, srsly

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The HDD in my first computer had less capacity than a CD, and the computer didn't even have a CD-ROM
>It is now safe to turn off your computer
Blue screen if you removed a CD from which you have files opened without ejecting it first from explorer
Having to deal with the annoying new start menu when switching from 3.11 to 95

The 90s were a bad decade and the computers and software were shit, Windows 7 is so polished in comparison it's not even funny.

>>45673211
90s were a golden age to actually learn shit about computers

Kids nowadays never ever enter even command prompt

>>45673211
90s were awesome, what are you talking about? Technology moved on, but everything else has gon down since the early 00's. Am i the only one recognizing all they do these days is rehashing the shit out of everything because they haven't good new ideas anymore?
Talking especially about movies & music here.

>>45673243
Also, hardware from the 90's is built robust for longlivity. I had it not only one time that hw failed exactly 2 days after guarantee was over.

>>45673270
My 40gb Hitachi HDD from 2002 still works flawlessly. 2 of them in fact.

>>45673223
I'm pretty sure someone 10 years older than us will tell you it's the 80s that were the best decade to learn computers.

Consider this though, kids born today will have cheap 3D printers, Raspberry Pie and other hobby computers, and all kinds of other tools and toys to play with if they wish to learn.
It's been over the decade since I bought a physical magazine or ordered something over the phone from a catalogue. It's easier than ever to learn, BUT you're not forced to learn.

>>45673292
>you're not forced to learn.

that's the "problem", i think. Tech is now just way too convenient to use, you don't need to tweak anything and by doing that, learn something new

Now only the biggest enthusiast learn, before even if you weren't interested you had to learn because you just had to, sometimes. I honestly don't know what's better

Us '90s kids will remember blowing on video game cartridges and repairing game-cube discs with toothe-paste & peanut butter, am I rite? :^^):^)

I seem to remember that Starcraft wouldn't run on older versions of Windows unless you manually switched to 640x480 and 16 color mode.

A friend of mine was once in a rush to get somewhere, so he shut his computer down and walked away from it, forgetting that in those days you had to switch the PC power off.

We came back the next day to find that "it is now safe to turn off your computer" was permanently burnt into his monitor.

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I remember installing office 6.0 with 20+ floppy disks in DOS and getting a read error on the 24th disk.

I remember not knowing anything about american politics and being 10 years old, working on a 386 pentium trying to solve the 5 questions so I could play Leisure suite larry.

I remember having to take out 2 GB ram's out of my 4 GB ram pc to install the 64 bit Windows Vista on my newly built machine since it would blue screen on the original install cd's.

I remember being happy because there would finally be a Linux user friendly version I could install on our family pc. This was back in the day when Lindows was announced. Big dissapointment that was!

I'm 29 and feel old remembering the LAN parties where we had to connect 2 pc's using serial cable just so we could play Duke 3D in multiplayer.

Everything just went downhill around 2003-2004. There are no new idea's...

>>45672839

Yup, reading this thread reminds me why I used an Amiga back then.>>45673178

>>45673346
LOL

>>45673178

How old are you? I'm 35 and never seen a TV like this, unless it's some 1960s shit or something.

Old CRTs took about 5 seconds to warm up and show image but that's about it.

>>45673346
At first i laughed and then i realized 99% of people around me wouldn't understand this and it might have also happened to me

>>45673332
>90s kids
>Gamecube released in 2001

>>45673178
My old TV had a similar problem near the end of its life. It would be nothing but static for maybe a half hour. Eventually is stopped tuning anything at all. So I switched it to the AV input and used my VCR as a tuner until the tube went bad. Bottom of the screen would "curl" up. Then one day I turned it on and had just a single line across the middle.

>>45673417

Sounds like it was just broken, most TVs weren't like that

Three words: AOL Free Trial

>>45673329
I remember watching a lecture (don't remember what it was about or who the lecturer was though), and the speaker lamented that in the 80s and 90s when kids started computer science they basically already knew how to program and had a solid base of knowledge.
Back then they could really get to real work from the get go, and now they waste at least a year teaching kids things the freshmen used to know before.

I don't think computers being easy to use is a bad thing, we just need to adjust our approach to teaching so we can get kids interested in computers.
Paradoxically smartphones, the easiest to use computers these days, seem to have sparked the interest in a lot of kids.

>>45673332
I don't understand how that's supposed to work, I'm born in the mid 80s and I remember jack shit from the 80's my childhood was in the 90s.
Kids born in the 90s will remember a lot more from the 00's than the 90's.

>>45673456
>Paradoxically smartphones, the easiest to use computers these days, seem to have sparked the interest in a lot of kids.

What interest, they only take pics and tweet shit 24/7

>>45673493
Look at the XDA forums, it's literally full of indian and paki kids.

Everything being on floppies instead of the hard drive. All programs, the OS, hell even boot disks. Damn Amiga.

>>45673508
Anyone who used the Amiga for more than games added a hard disk, it was easy enough to do.

>>45673456

I was born in 85 and the earliest memories I have are from 1992 so yeah

>>45673508

>LIES AMIGA WILL RISE BECAUSE ITS BETTER THAN PC

amigafags were the linuxtards of their day

>getting home from middle school and having to immediately get on dialup internet to jerk off and get in a brood war game before mom comes home from work and spends 6 hours on the phone

>>45673565
>buying 20 hours of internet

TOPLEL, i almost forgot about that

>>45673546

They were much worse, people think Apple fags are fanboys, they don't remember the Amiga users.

To be fair though at least they had a point, it was better than anything around during its time.

>>45673546
Amiga WAS better

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>>45673587
You need to stop going to Cartoon Network, it's clearly giving our computer a virus and slowing it down.

Not ancient for most here I wager though.

>>45673602

>xp
>ancient

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>>45673456
>I remember watching a lecture (don't remember what it was about or who the lecturer was though), and the speaker lamented that in the 80s and 90s when kids started computer science they basically already knew how to program and had a solid base of knowledge.

This sounds like one of the earlier Raspberry Pi promo videos -- they'd talk about how they had to learn BASIC and similar concepts back in the 80s. I'm really curious to see if introducing programming to kids like what Raspberry are doing will have some aggregate effect on how tech-literate kids will be in the coming decade. I myself have a grade school aged little brother and all he cares about is playing games and watching Let's Play videos on Youtube. I can hardly imagine waning him from Windows. let alone teaching him anything advanced. Anyone here have experience with kids and Scratch?

>>45672558
I had dial-up until 2010

Runescape was pretty much the only online game I could play

>>45673699
Had dial up until last September. Runescape is fun.

>>45673647
It's getting on in years, but my frame of reference was for Win98.

The picture was just amusing and plays into my point, I just didn't express it very well.

>>45673699
>>45673703
What was it like making the switch?

>>45673699
>>45673703

are you guys deep outback australians or something?

I'm a slav and the last time I had to dial up was 1999

I just can't think of a reason you'd use dialup today

>>45673741
New Zealand. Parent's ignorance mainly, and the refusal to spend more money on things other than drugs

>>45673738
It was amazing, I spent all night watching shit on youtube

>>45673691
>I myself have a grade school aged little brother and all he cares about is playing games and watching Let's Play videos on Youtube.
That's fortunate, because most ONLY watch Let's Play videos.

As for Scratch, children just don't have the attention span for it.

>>45673738
Got satellite internet. Run escape is still pretty fun since my ping is about 900ms with a 40gb data cap a month.

>>45673741
I live south of Toronto in Canada in the countryside

>>45673753
What really pisses me off is the anti-learning attitude that's become popular.

Even if you try to teach people something, it's all "hurr durr I'm a dumbass and I don't want to think."

>>45673748
maoris lol

>>45673796
ayy lmao

im white though

>>45673790
>anti-learning attitude
work in IT, everyone says this when you show them how to do something in excel.

>>45673790
ay yo

ay yo nerd whiteboi

ay yo imma sit watching let's plays on youtube and posting kush & porn pictures on tumblr

>>45673803
ey bru lets go down hamiltun in get some chucks ey bru. we can tek em to da mount.

>>45673806
>pivot table
are you a wizard?

>>45673813
Calm down grandpa

>>45673790
My little cousin says to me, at least once a week, something along the lines of "How do I make a game? What engine do I use? RPGmaker?".

Each time I say "you first need to be experienced at programming so read this book" it falls on deaf ears. And then it's back to watching Five Nights At Freddy's videos on Youtube and making Minecraft videos all day.

0.1+0.2=0.30000000000004

I remember my computer telling me its safe to turn off before i could press the power button :DDDD lyk dis if u cry erry tiem

fuck off.

>>45673602
My dad genuinely used to blame the speed of our computer on PC Gamer demo disks, shouting at me to delete games. Then I opened up his favourites folder one day and found busty teens fuck huge cocks etc.

He gave me a new computer so my mum wouldn't find out, and he even bought me a subscription to PC gamer.

>>45673842
tl;dr, schools and parents don't instill any curiosity anymore. bland consumerism has conquered. where are all the clive sinclairs?

I miss my old porn dialler

Some people just don't have the critical thinking that you develop from certain activities as a kid--or maybe genetics has a role and you're just born with the skill. You can't really teach it to people either--and literally, math skills != critical thinking.

A dumb-blonde is dumb in all areas of knowledge. They don't put forth the effort to even try to think--they only care about looks and omg brad pitt. People seem content with being dumb, it's like they've accepted the fact that they are stupid. Kind of like men marrying ugly women--they've just accepted the fact that, that's the best they're going to get.

If you've ever learned a second language, you're going to know what I mean when I say having a dream in another language is crazy. It's similar to file-structures, even. Thoughts and knowledge become journaled, you make a file-system of all knowledge, and some people are using HFS while others use EXT4. Some people just need to actiavte trim, and run a fsck ;)

>>45673890
also >some people
It's 6 am, I'm going to bed ;)

>>45673843
Just googled this.

This sort of thing is why nobody wants to learn programmer.

>>45673890
>If you've ever learned a second language
I fucking hate when i'm saying something to someone and then i suddenly freeze because i remember how to say the word i want in english but not in my native fucking language.

>>45673926
If nobody wants into code then how come pc market and phone market are so incredibly oversaturate with games and apps?

>>45673965

most of those apps are shit and are churned out by the dozen

if you really believe everyone and their mother can code nowadays you are very very wrong and should spend less time on /g/

>>45673849
>blackmailing your own father

top kek

>>45672679
use ntfs

>>45672552
its about vidia but.
remember the numbers of my sound blaster awe 64 (ISA) to configure sound in my games on DOS.
220 - 5 - 1 - 5 - 620 - 330
games had a setup.exe to configure this and also configure the joystick.

Remember when this classic Windows networking site was new? Saved my ass networking Win 9x and NT machines:

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/j_helmig/ntpnpisa.htm

>>45672552
I remember when i still had to use the Start menu to start a program in Windows. Back then the start screen didn't exist. Hard to believe that hundreds of people used that ancient technology every day.

>>45673860
Shut up, grandpa. I know that "back in your days" everything was better. Although your grandpa probably told you exactly the same when you were young.

>>45673178
>Turning on the tv would just show static and a weird sound effect (staticy and running through frequencies)
>It'd last for like 3-4 minutes and you couldn't do anything about it

Never heard or experienced anything like that, had several CRTs. Sounds like a specific problem with your TV.

>>45672552

TokenRing, coax cable networks. Still got some ISA cards somewhere.

>>45672552

I had to uninstall one game in order to install another because the hard drive was only 40mb.

The computer I used before that didn't even have a hard drive, you put a DOS floppy in or a bootable floppy in and turned the machine on.

>>45675834
How are those problems?

I remember when Opera got tabbed browsing

>>45672552
Being able to store Wordstar 3.3 AND several documents on a 720kb floppy disk. Buying One Must Fall 2097 from Apogee and receiving six floppy disks in the mail.

>>45675935
>>45675944
And those were problems?

>>45673965
>Enjoy your Kardashian App

>>45675980
Having to decide between playing Wing Commander or keeping 'productive' software on my IBM Model 30/286 (20mb HDD).

>>45672552
>Install Service Pack
>Reinstall all drivers again.

>No PnP

>>45675980

FUCK YOUR THREAD PREMISE

I'M ALTERING IT SLIGHTLY AND CALLING IT MY OWN

Having to uninstall Windows because it was too slow and HDD was only 20 MB, and use MS-DOS instead
Having to fiddle with boot floppies to throw some of the XMS memory to EMS memory

Having to reboot my PC because I forgot to turn on the external serial modem.

>having to actually purchase a memory upgrade for my printer

>>45673357
> Everything just went downhill
> around 2003-2004. There are no
> new idea's...

I was looking at the new Retina iMac yesterday and thinking similar thoughts. No floppy drive, no optical drive ... There's almost nothing left to go wrong.

Unless you installed Windows on it anyway...

>>45672552
i remember windows 8.0

>>45672552
>Trying to download anything on a 2800 Baud modem.
>losing my 14.4 connection when mom answered the phone

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Remember the good old days when all we had was pic related?

>>45672800
It was a different time, you shouldn't hold that against him.
It's like saying "2 Gallons of drinking water every day ought to be enough for anybody" before we started using water for bathing and washing our cars.

>>45677071

>having to realign a low-decimal spindle ever 5 minutes when the damp in winter made the wooden beads swell and tighten

absolute nightmare, kids don't know how good they have it with these plastic beads they have nowadays

>>45675814
nah, you're just no old enough.

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>>45673357
oh man, LAN parties before ethernet was a thing were the worst.
One time my brother and I wanted to play warcraft 2 (before battle.net). Our serial cable wasn't long enough, and one PC had the mini serial port and the other PC had the large-size port anyways. Turns out we had a parallel-port splitter device with a switch on the front (so you could switch between a printer and a scanner, or two different printers, without plugging cables).

Then we found two of pic related in a box of shit from my dad's office so it ended up going

pc -> serial cable -> adaptor -> parallel cable -> splitter box -> parallel cable -> adaptor -> serial cable

one just so happened to be a crossover cable (we had no idea one was needed) but the fucking thing worked LOL

>>45675814

>he never had a TV with dials
>he doesn't know the true meaning of "don't touch that dial" in reference to TV channels

>>45672800
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates#Misattributed

"It is now safe to turn off your computer"

>>45677288

Had a black & white CRT until I was 8, is that old enough for you?

>>45677297

Dials and those analogue shits with the little plastic lever you used to "store" channels in addition to:

>>45677968

Bretty sure I could be your dad. Kiss your mum goodnight from me.

>>45677968

no

I had one until i was 19

When DOS 6 came out, I built a complex menu system in my config.sys and autoexec.bat with optimized startups for each game. I'm still a master of conventional memory.

Not really a problem but I remember connecting to BBSes with a 300 baud modem.

>pirating C64 games from a radio station
>mom yells at me for listening to noise for an hour

>>45678136
interesting, who broadcasted such things? was it unregulated radio bands?

SYNTAX ERROR

>>45672552
i put the floppy in wrong and i couldn't get it out.

setting IRQ jumpers on parallel/IO/sound cards

actually needing an IO card to install a hdd/floppy drive

>>45673796
>tfw you are the only maori in your computer science and maths classes
>tera rongo ko ahau te maori kotahi i nga karaihe compsci raua ko maths

>>45678180
I was like 7 so I just remember one station that played music and had a few hours every day dedicated to broadcasting C64 software. It was a regular radio in a socialist country.

It seems surreal now, but back then it was more effective than sending your tapes via post or getting that fancy thing called internet.

>>45678136

confirmed for being a slav

I wonder if that rumour is even true, I've heard it time and again over the years

>>45678219
Please do a haka and spear your enemies

>>45678229

radio data transmission is more than possible, and if you were going to send data via radio using a tape cassette is probably you best bet at getting it done with minimal packet loss

>>45678232
>yfw a maori was one of the key developers of R

>>45678227
cheaper than hours of time on a phone call to a BBS for sure, but of course there's no choosing what you're getting

>>45678254
I actually know nothing about New Zealand or Maoris

Only Temuera Morrison

>>45678249

Or sending data through morse code on a watch hand?

>>45678229
You got me, but it's true. When I told about the station to one of my older friends, he asked me which one I listened to, lol.

>>45678261
Exactly. Even when you bought tapes, you had to buy the compilation of all kinds of bullshit and then find something interesting in it.

Wasting a fuckton of time configuring stupid Windows 98 networks.

I remember begging for my mother not to pick up the phone because it would take my dialup connection down and I was in the middle of a SNES rom download with no resume.

>>45678358
>parents need to use phone
>almost at the end of a massive 35M download
ffffffff

>get new game
>spend half an hour changing sound card settings in a separate .EXE before the sound would work

>>tfw windows 98 with a celeron 200mhz and 64mb ram
>>tfw 59k interwebs
>>tfw computer would blue screen when someone would call the house if the computer had its telephone cord plugged into the modem

Runtime Error 200

>>45678387

>half an hour

if you were retarded maybe, you just needed to know port, IRQ and DMA and it took like three seconds

>>45678358
>>45678397
one thing i liked about dial up was that i could go to a friends' place who didn't have internet access, and get onto my service with just the phone number/username/password

it was billed against the user/pass, not the phone call itself

notable then when people were getting onto adsl, not so much now that everyone has an internet connection

>>45678433
for a little over two years we had free internet by using the free "trails" of aol. we would get three months free. when we called to cancel we would complain about how slow it was and they would always give us another three months free.

it was shit speed but we had free internetz.

>>45678456
trials

>>45673346
oh wow that's great

>have AOL
>walk into computer room, 3 empty bottles of wine on the desk
>go to sign in on my screename
>its banned
>ring number
>screenname is banned because it went into gay and lesbian chat rooms saying they all spread AIDS
>it sure wasn't me
>ask dad
>he can't even remember what he was doing last night

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>>45678496
Top kek.

>>45672552
magazines with shareware software on CDs

>>45678602
don't they still do that?

>>45678633
I think PC Gamer still does.

>>45678633
Some Linux magazines come with entry-level shit lke Ubuntu and Mint.

>>45678633
they do but who buy lol

>>45678602
I thought it was pretty weak how we went from PS1 magazines having a disc packed with demos every month and then the PS2 mags would just have a trailer or two on a DVD

The 90s was truly glorious

>>45678674
old people love that shit

Not really a problem, actually quite the opposite.

>year is 1997
>Dad works for Charter Communications
>He hears about some new cable internet that may get offered in a few years.
>gets on home beta team
>We have a 1mb connection when most people were just getting 56k

I was the envy of all my loser friends for years to come.

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>>45678673
i'd be surprised if linux magazines contained shareware, though

>>45678674
i used to get them before i had internet access, and for while after, just because some things on their discs would have taken forever to download

>>45678678
I have a nice stack of older gamestar dvds and cds from the 2000's and all of them have a full version of a game, demos, patches, mods, video reviews and trailer.They still do that.

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>>45673508

Hi there my british lad.
Still complaining about the lack of HDD controllers available for your Amiga 500? I told you that you should take these 2000 and 3000 models with, your know, SCSI controllers instead.

>>45672552
Using a computer while constantly swapping out 5.25 floppies because I had no HDD.

>>45680955
Tandy 1000EX

Installing Windows/286 over DR-DOS and editing config.sys files so that DR-DOS's DPMI driver and Window's himem.sys could co-exist peacefully and still allow Windows to run in 'Standard" mode instead of 'Real' Mode, allowing access to memory over 1MB using A20 line.

I remember SATA cables. Damn, they were hard to use.

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dropping these fucks.

do u guys remember wen u had to build ur own watrcooling. lol. now u just buy a Corsair watercooler and ur set.

>>45681488
that was still common like what, 9 years ago?

>>45672552
i remember
LOAD "*",8,1
it's command to load game from disk in c64 - and i'm probably not as old as you guys think. Technology in my country was just coming a little later than everywhere else back then.
Of course i also remember times of overclocking cpu by setting jumpers, first Pentiums MMX that voltage range in instruction was like "oh, voltage? something between 2 and 3 volts", first 3d accelerations and other oldies.

And i still have working IBM XT clone. And C64.

>>45673773
I know them feels, currently living off tethering my phone at home, but I have business class interbutts at work so I download everything possible then.

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>tfw gummbermint wont fund my difference engine development

>>45673842
This is how deep most modern kids at the school I IT at get into tinkering. Asking me for some magical click and drag shit to make shit.

>how do I website?
>how do I make 3d game?
>how do I hack computar?

Tell them they have to learn how to program

>you mean there isn't a program I could use?

Not if you want to make anything interesting

>>45675843
Back when
>do you want to delete your save files? y/N
Was a lifesaver

>>45678673
I got one that came with knoppix

Thought for some time that those felt circles on mouse rollers were part of the design.

Also this: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/lockergnome_tips.html

>>45678229
It's true.