ITT: Computer problems that prove you're ancient
> I remember having to reboot to change my IP address or DNS server
> I remember when you had to turn on a printer before you turned on your computer, or it wouldn't be detectable
> I also remember when windows filesystem was so shitty that an unplanned shutdown, like a power outage, had about a 50% chance of showing you an unreadable file system on boot.
> mfw when you would fix it by rebooting to recovery console to run chkdsk
> mfw you had that 0.3second period in a ten second bootup to press F6 and put a floppy disk in so it would see your storage
I don't remember this, didn't winipcfg allow you to release your IP and get a new one?
Well, I used Windows 2000 actually and I clearly remember that you could. Don't know about Windows NT 4.0 and earlier though.
>It is now safe to shut down your computer
>Click switch that instakills power
>Weird noise from tower
>Click switch on
Turning on the tv would just show static and a weird sound effect (staticy and running through frequencies)
It'd last for like 3-4 minutes and you couldn't do anything about it
Spent a long time dealing with this as a kid trying to play games in the morning
Only happened when it was off for a long time
The HDD in my first computer had less capacity than a CD, and the computer didn't even have a CD-ROM
>It is now safe to turn off your computer
Blue screen if you removed a CD from which you have files opened without ejecting it first from explorer
Having to deal with the annoying new start menu when switching from 3.11 to 95
The 90s were a bad decade and the computers and software were shit, Windows 7 is so polished in comparison it's not even funny.
90s were awesome, what are you talking about? Technology moved on, but everything else has gon down since the early 00's. Am i the only one recognizing all they do these days is rehashing the shit out of everything because they haven't good new ideas anymore?
Talking especially about movies & music here.
I'm pretty sure someone 10 years older than us will tell you it's the 80s that were the best decade to learn computers.
Consider this though, kids born today will have cheap 3D printers, Raspberry Pie and other hobby computers, and all kinds of other tools and toys to play with if they wish to learn.
It's been over the decade since I bought a physical magazine or ordered something over the phone from a catalogue. It's easier than ever to learn, BUT you're not forced to learn.
>you're not forced to learn.
that's the "problem", i think. Tech is now just way too convenient to use, you don't need to tweak anything and by doing that, learn something new
Now only the biggest enthusiast learn, before even if you weren't interested you had to learn because you just had to, sometimes. I honestly don't know what's better
A friend of mine was once in a rush to get somewhere, so he shut his computer down and walked away from it, forgetting that in those days you had to switch the PC power off.
We came back the next day to find that "it is now safe to turn off your computer" was permanently burnt into his monitor.
I remember installing office 6.0 with 20+ floppy disks in DOS and getting a read error on the 24th disk.
I remember not knowing anything about american politics and being 10 years old, working on a 386 pentium trying to solve the 5 questions so I could play Leisure suite larry.
I remember having to take out 2 GB ram's out of my 4 GB ram pc to install the 64 bit Windows Vista on my newly built machine since it would blue screen on the original install cd's.
I remember being happy because there would finally be a Linux user friendly version I could install on our family pc. This was back in the day when Lindows was announced. Big dissapointment that was!
I'm 29 and feel old remembering the LAN parties where we had to connect 2 pc's using serial cable just so we could play Duke 3D in multiplayer.
Everything just went downhill around 2003-2004. There are no new idea's...
My old TV had a similar problem near the end of its life. It would be nothing but static for maybe a half hour. Eventually is stopped tuning anything at all. So I switched it to the AV input and used my VCR as a tuner until the tube went bad. Bottom of the screen would "curl" up. Then one day I turned it on and had just a single line across the middle.
I remember watching a lecture (don't remember what it was about or who the lecturer was though), and the speaker lamented that in the 80s and 90s when kids started computer science they basically already knew how to program and had a solid base of knowledge.
Back then they could really get to real work from the get go, and now they waste at least a year teaching kids things the freshmen used to know before.
I don't think computers being easy to use is a bad thing, we just need to adjust our approach to teaching so we can get kids interested in computers.
Paradoxically smartphones, the easiest to use computers these days, seem to have sparked the interest in a lot of kids.
I don't understand how that's supposed to work, I'm born in the mid 80s and I remember jack shit from the 80's my childhood was in the 90s.
Kids born in the 90s will remember a lot more from the 00's than the 90's.
They were much worse, people think Apple fags are fanboys, they don't remember the Amiga users.
To be fair though at least they had a point, it was better than anything around during its time.
You need to stop going to Cartoon Network, it's clearly giving our computer a virus and slowing it down.
Not ancient for most here I wager though.
>I remember watching a lecture (don't remember what it was about or who the lecturer was though), and the speaker lamented that in the 80s and 90s when kids started computer science they basically already knew how to program and had a solid base of knowledge.
This sounds like one of the earlier Raspberry Pi promo videos -- they'd talk about how they had to learn BASIC and similar concepts back in the 80s. I'm really curious to see if introducing programming to kids like what Raspberry are doing will have some aggregate effect on how tech-literate kids will be in the coming decade. I myself have a grade school aged little brother and all he cares about is playing games and watching Let's Play videos on Youtube. I can hardly imagine waning him from Windows. let alone teaching him anything advanced. Anyone here have experience with kids and Scratch?
It's getting on in years, but my frame of reference was for Win98.
The picture was just amusing and plays into my point, I just didn't express it very well.
What was it like making the switch?
>I myself have a grade school aged little brother and all he cares about is playing games and watching Let's Play videos on Youtube.
That's fortunate, because most ONLY watch Let's Play videos.
As for Scratch, children just don't have the attention span for it.
What really pisses me off is the anti-learning attitude that's become popular.
Even if you try to teach people something, it's all "hurr durr I'm a dumbass and I don't want to think."
My little cousin says to me, at least once a week, something along the lines of "How do I make a game? What engine do I use? RPGmaker?".
Each time I say "you first need to be experienced at programming so read this book" it falls on deaf ears. And then it's back to watching Five Nights At Freddy's videos on Youtube and making Minecraft videos all day.
My dad genuinely used to blame the speed of our computer on PC Gamer demo disks, shouting at me to delete games. Then I opened up his favourites folder one day and found busty teens fuck huge cocks etc.
He gave me a new computer so my mum wouldn't find out, and he even bought me a subscription to PC gamer.
Some people just don't have the critical thinking that you develop from certain activities as a kid--or maybe genetics has a role and you're just born with the skill. You can't really teach it to people either--and literally, math skills != critical thinking.
A dumb-blonde is dumb in all areas of knowledge. They don't put forth the effort to even try to think--they only care about looks and omg brad pitt. People seem content with being dumb, it's like they've accepted the fact that they are stupid. Kind of like men marrying ugly women--they've just accepted the fact that, that's the best they're going to get.
If you've ever learned a second language, you're going to know what I mean when I say having a dream in another language is crazy. It's similar to file-structures, even. Thoughts and knowledge become journaled, you make a file-system of all knowledge, and some people are using HFS while others use EXT4. Some people just need to actiavte trim, and run a fsck ;)
>If you've ever learned a second language
I fucking hate when i'm saying something to someone and then i suddenly freeze because i remember how to say the word i want in english but not in my native fucking language.
most of those apps are shit and are churned out by the dozen
if you really believe everyone and their mother can code nowadays you are very very wrong and should spend less time on /g/
its about vidia but.
remember the numbers of my sound blaster awe 64 (ISA) to configure sound in my games on DOS.
220 - 5 - 1 - 5 - 620 - 330
games had a setup.exe to configure this and also configure the joystick.
I remember when i still had to use the Start menu to start a program in Windows. Back then the start screen didn't exist. Hard to believe that hundreds of people used that ancient technology every day.
>Turning on the tv would just show static and a weird sound effect (staticy and running through frequencies)
>It'd last for like 3-4 minutes and you couldn't do anything about it
Never heard or experienced anything like that, had several CRTs. Sounds like a specific problem with your TV.
I had to uninstall one game in order to install another because the hard drive was only 40mb.
The computer I used before that didn't even have a hard drive, you put a DOS floppy in or a bootable floppy in and turned the machine on.
> Everything just went downhill
> around 2003-2004. There are no
> new idea's...
I was looking at the new Retina iMac yesterday and thinking similar thoughts. No floppy drive, no optical drive ... There's almost nothing left to go wrong.
Unless you installed Windows on it anyway...
Remember the good old days when all we had was pic related?
It was a different time, you shouldn't hold that against him.
It's like saying "2 Gallons of drinking water every day ought to be enough for anybody" before we started using water for bathing and washing our cars.
>having to realign a low-decimal spindle ever 5 minutes when the damp in winter made the wooden beads swell and tighten
absolute nightmare, kids don't know how good they have it with these plastic beads they have nowadays
oh man, LAN parties before ethernet was a thing were the worst.
One time my brother and I wanted to play warcraft 2 (before battle.net). Our serial cable wasn't long enough, and one PC had the mini serial port and the other PC had the large-size port anyways. Turns out we had a parallel-port splitter device with a switch on the front (so you could switch between a printer and a scanner, or two different printers, without plugging cables).
Then we found two of pic related in a box of shit from my dad's office so it ended up going
pc -> serial cable -> adaptor -> parallel cable -> splitter box -> parallel cable -> adaptor -> serial cable
one just so happened to be a crossover cable (we had no idea one was needed) but the fucking thing worked LOL
Dials and those analogue shits with the little plastic lever you used to "store" channels in addition to:
Bretty sure I could be your dad. Kiss your mum goodnight from me.
I was like 7 so I just remember one station that played music and had a few hours every day dedicated to broadcasting C64 software. It was a regular radio in a socialist country.
It seems surreal now, but back then it was more effective than sending your tapes via post or getting that fancy thing called internet.
radio data transmission is more than possible, and if you were going to send data via radio using a tape cassette is probably you best bet at getting it done with minimal packet loss
You got me, but it's true. When I told about the station to one of my older friends, he asked me which one I listened to, lol.
Exactly. Even when you bought tapes, you had to buy the compilation of all kinds of bullshit and then find something interesting in it.
>>tfw windows 98 with a celeron 200mhz and 64mb ram
>>tfw 59k interwebs
>>tfw computer would blue screen when someone would call the house if the computer had its telephone cord plugged into the modem
one thing i liked about dial up was that i could go to a friends' place who didn't have internet access, and get onto my service with just the phone number/username/password
it was billed against the user/pass, not the phone call itself
notable then when people were getting onto adsl, not so much now that everyone has an internet connection
for a little over two years we had free internet by using the free "trails" of aol. we would get three months free. when we called to cancel we would complain about how slow it was and they would always give us another three months free.
it was shit speed but we had free internetz.
>walk into computer room, 3 empty bottles of wine on the desk
>go to sign in on my screename
>screenname is banned because it went into gay and lesbian chat rooms saying they all spread AIDS
>it sure wasn't me
>he can't even remember what he was doing last night
I thought it was pretty weak how we went from PS1 magazines having a disc packed with demos every month and then the PS2 mags would just have a trailer or two on a DVD
The 90s was truly glorious
Not really a problem, actually quite the opposite.
>year is 1997
>Dad works for Charter Communications
>He hears about some new cable internet that may get offered in a few years.
>gets on home beta team
>We have a 1mb connection when most people were just getting 56k
I was the envy of all my loser friends for years to come.
i'd be surprised if linux magazines contained shareware, though
i used to get them before i had internet access, and for while after, just because some things on their discs would have taken forever to download
I have a nice stack of older gamestar dvds and cds from the 2000's and all of them have a full version of a game, demos, patches, mods, video reviews and trailer.They still do that.
Hi there my british lad.
Still complaining about the lack of HDD controllers available for your Amiga 500? I told you that you should take these 2000 and 3000 models with, your know, SCSI controllers instead.
Installing Windows/286 over DR-DOS and editing config.sys files so that DR-DOS's DPMI driver and Window's himem.sys could co-exist peacefully and still allow Windows to run in 'Standard" mode instead of 'Real' Mode, allowing access to memory over 1MB using A20 line.
it's command to load game from disk in c64 - and i'm probably not as old as you guys think. Technology in my country was just coming a little later than everywhere else back then.
Of course i also remember times of overclocking cpu by setting jumpers, first Pentiums MMX that voltage range in instruction was like "oh, voltage? something between 2 and 3 volts", first 3d accelerations and other oldies.
And i still have working IBM XT clone. And C64.
>tfw gummbermint wont fund my difference engine development
This is how deep most modern kids at the school I IT at get into tinkering. Asking me for some magical click and drag shit to make shit.
>how do I website?
>how do I make 3d game?
>how do I hack computar?
Tell them they have to learn how to program
>you mean there isn't a program I could use?
Not if you want to make anything interesting