>tfw you bought an amd cpu instead of an intel one feels bad

Just sell it and get Intel one then?

This thread will go absolutely fucking nowhere. People will use anecdotal evidence back and forth, post heavily biased benchmarks, and come to either the semi intelligent response that both lines have their own use cases, or they'll come to the typical /g/ conclusion and call each other shills rather than refuting the original point.

Sage and move on.

Intel = jews

you did good anon

>>45602467
>AMD buyers remorse

>>45602467
>tripfag opinion

another one for the filter

>>45602451
>buying
My x4 945 was free. Feels good.

>>45602467

/thread

btw:

AMD: Best value for your money CPUs

Intel: Best performance if you want to spend a lot of money

>>45602535
So I will just disable my filter to make fun of you :)!

Filtering === Jealousy.

Moving on.

>>45602570

>AMD: Best value for your money CPUs

Nope.

There are some people on /g/ who know AMD is worse in every possible way but they troll people into buying AMD CPUs and enjoy threads like these.

>tfw Phenom 940 stronk

>>45602635

Just look at the benchmarks yourself: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_value_alltime.html

AMD dominates for best price performance ratio.

The FX-6300 is probably the best CPU any budget conscious person could buy.

>>45602635
I enjoy buying AMD because AMD works for me. I don't want to live in a world where Intel is the only player in the desktop and laptop market.

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>>45602570
>Intel: Best performance if you want to spend a lot of money
> if you want to spend a lot of money
>tfw you got a 2nd hand i5 2500k running at 4.3 ghz for only 135 euro including the motherboard

>>45602687

Those "benchmarks" are totally irrelevant since they don't measure real world performance.

>>45602451
Care to elaborate?

>>45602717

I bought an even faster AMD CPU with motherboard for only 120 Euros ($150) NEW

>>45602727

...actually they do.

>>45602743
Faster in what?

>>45602451
cpu's don't actually matter that much anon.

>>45602755

Everything.

It's amazing how much AMD destroys intel when you compare the same priced CPUs.

AMD = best money you can spend on a CPU

>>45602785
What processor did you buy that's faster than an i5 2500k at 4.3 ghz in gaming for 120 euro including a motherboard. I'm very curious

>>45602775
not him, but I guess this is why you still can use old thinkpads with core 2 duo, huh.

unless you're buying i7, amd is better value... Unless you are buying the brand name more than the performance.

Look at these two CPUs for an example: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2252&cmp[]=1781

Both priced at $99.

The AMD absolutely destroys the Intel.

Advocate of many AMD processors and one Intel PC. My friend and I had nearly 100% similar builds - the CPU with my similarly priced amd CPU I got around 15fps less. Went out the next day and bought an i5. Admit it amd fags, you're defending yourselves because you're either too poor to join the Intel master race or you made a mistake and don't want to admit it

>>45602950

So you went out, and bought a more expensive i5, and was surprised it preformed better? Yes, usually more expensive cpus perform better.

But CPUs don't really matter much for gaming. If the CPU is causing 15fps difference, there's something else wrong with your build.

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Amd's processors are total fucking trash in terms of single core performance.


Single core performance is still by far the most important thing when choosing a processor.
This is what amdrones don't understand.

Having 6 or 8 cores doesn't mean shit when most applications and games don't know how to make use of them.

having a gazillion cores is nice for synthetic benchmarks but it doesn't translate well to real life performance

Amd processors aren't a bad choice when you are on tight budget, then it's better to spend the price difference on getting a better videocard which will make a bigger impact on your gaming experience. But if you have enough cash, picking up a decent i5 is well worth the money.

It will mean that you have a processor that performs excellent in ALL situations, unlike amd processors which only perform top in those rare situations where applications can make use of all those cores.

Also don't forget, unless you live in america where energy is dirt cheap, that cheaper amd processor will come to bite you in the ass at the end of the year when the energy bill comes in. Also, they often run so hot that they can fuck up the entire airflow of your system.

tl;dr:

Tight on cash? Go for amd
Enough money? Get intel.

Amdrones need to know their place

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>>45602451

my AMD FX 6200 is quite good actually with a cooler master 212 hyper evo

a lot cheaper than Intel with their 4 cores

>>45602451
Bad bait is bad.

2/10 because I responded.

Inb4 shills

Intel i5 for gaming
FX 8 core for render/multitask

>>45602984
FYI energy bills come in once a month. You'll see when you move out of your parent's basement.

It's funny how everyone on /G/ must be some sort of pizza roll eating man children who assume custom PCs are needed for gaming only.

News flash. Gaming isn't all that intensive on the CPU. If you want to talk gaming talk about GPUs. If you want to talk about running many programs side by side. Or rendering 3D animation. Then we can talk CPUs.

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>>45602984
>Single core performance is still by far the most important thing when choosing a processor.
How so?
>muh games

>>45602984

Two years from now us AMDRONES will be giggling like ninnies.

just because its right now doesn't mean it will be in the future. and on top of that someone at amd made the same mistake intel did with the P4

HEY LETS SACRIFICE PPC FOR MASSIVE MEGAHURTZ! Shit never worked then and wont work now.

Sure its shitty now as it was then but intel realized how retarded they were being then and fixed it and thats the same shit amd is doing now.

Its also fucking hilarious how both companies do stupid shit like this from time to time?

SOMETHING DIDN'T WORK 10 YEARS AGO? FUCK IT TRY AGAIN TODAY!

Sometimes it does work though why? who the fuck knows.

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>>45602635
>AMD is worse in every possible way

>>45602451
>tfw when i diden't buy an AMD cpu

I literally bought an old dual core g7 server from HP which suposedly coulden't transcode 1080p in real time to other devices, and it could do it for 9 devices at the same time.
So yeah before that I had a small atom core (4 cores) and it coulden't even handle the streaming much less transcoding.

>>45603034

sometimes a game does use quite a bit of cpu. usually its because the game is retarded.

Like the entire world of games, cant even go over 75 fps at max with an i7 4xxx

If you're worried about game performance then these are the things you should consider, in order:
1) Finding a better hobby
2) GPU
3) Everything else

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>>45603073
>the entire world of games, cant even go over 75 fps at max with an i7 4xxx
This is one for the /g/ Hall of Fame.

What I have to complain about for AMD is that enthusuast performance has not improved at all for two whole years now (aside from a small clock bump) while Intel has managed to squeeze out 15-30% more clock for clock over that time. Also the AMD boards are 2 years out of date on features.

Let's just say there's a reason why BOTH of the newest game consoles use 8-CORE AMD PROCESSORS.

AMD is the best for GAMING and all applications for its price point.

>>45603123
>enthusiast performance
AMD Opteron 6386 SE, 16x 2.80GHz

>>45603049
>"AMD Processors are shit! But they will be good in 2 years just wait!"
Am I supposed to take this seriously?

>>45603123

once again same thing happened with the P4 intel pretty much SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING and coasted on bad chips/mobo's for a year or two so they could use most of their resources to build a chip from the ground up ready to compete again.

so we went essentially from 90nm with two p4's on the same chip (lol celerons) to core 2 duos.

I expect similar.

>>45603123
>AMD boards are 2 years out of date on features.
Elaborate. What's missing?

>>45603147

This is why amdrones will be giggling, I also expect stupid shit like woodscrews 07 right after.

>>45603047
I just fucking explained you retard, because most applications run on less than 4 cores

>>45603160
>most applications
[citation needed]

>>45603015
>avoiding the argument with an ad hominem
Nice buyers remorse

Playstation 4: 8-Core AMD processor

Xbox One: 8-Core AMD processor

Games are being optimized for AMD multi-core processors these days.

AMD is the best for gaming and absolutely destroys intel in the price performance ratio.

>>45602451
>AMD phenom II 940
>ATI readeon 4780

fml god damnit. I can't even install gentoo if I wanted to

>>45603169
See
>>45602984
That's an 8 core getting totaly shat on by a 4 core processor. Enjoy your useless cores

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>gaming
Will you ever grow up, /g/?

>>45603174
>playing shitty console ports
Back to the console you filthy peasant

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>>45603179
>Battlefield Manchild Extreme Edition
>"application"

>>45603182
>never having fun = growing up

>>45603191
So what do you do on your computer? Unpack winrar files all day?

>>45603189

Good luck finding a major game that isn't released on consoles these days.

There's a reason why both the Playstation 4 and the Xbox One both use AMD processors.

AMD is simply better for gaming.

amd respects your freedom

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>>45603199
>What could you possibly do with a computer other than gaming?

>>45603200
>there's a reason why both the Playstation 4 and the Xbox One both use AMD processors.
Yeah there is, because it makes them cheap to produce
>AMD is simply better for gaming.
No it isn't, see
>>45602984

>>45603182
this
There's no videogame with an adult AND good story.
Prove me wrong

My reason for choosing intel over amd is simple. Linux compatiblity. Granted I haven't had any experience with the newest amd setups, but I've always had issues that I just don't get with intel. Its also why I choose nvidia. Id rather pay a little more for something that works without much fuss.

>>45603205
>"Look at me I'm so mature!"

>>45603205
What?

>>45603206

Compare the same priced CPUs.

Take for example, AMD FX-6300 ($99) vs. Intel i3-4150 ($99)

The AMD processor absolutely destroys the Intel in gaming performance and application performance.

It's not even a contest, I feel kind of bad for intel.

>>45603231
First of all, you don't even provide proof, second of all, i3 is pleb tier shit, if you go for intel, you should at least get an i5

>>45603221
>>45603227
Not him but you really can do other things than play at videogames. I don't know what is unbelievable about that.

I'm all day on my computer (like all of us) but I didn't play any game for years (not into it).

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>>45603231
>Take for example, AMD FX-6300 ($99) vs. Intel i3-4150 ($99)
>The AMD processor absolutely destroys the Intel in gaming performance and application performance.
Yeah nah, you're full of shit

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>>45603283
better version

>>45603283

lol nope, look at the stats yourself: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2252&cmp[]=1781

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>>45603231
>>45603283
>>45603292
And another, oh man look at that fx 6300 destroy the i3 in gaming performance!

>>45602451
Who gives a shit? Every person has their own criteria for performance variable needs. If it works for you without a significant change in performance, then its all good.

This has got to be a troll thread.

>>45603182
animes
>will you ever grow up weeaboo?

>>45603258

Yeah who cares if AMD beats Intel at the same price point, more expensive intels are faster than cheaper AMDs, so AMD is utter shit.

>>45603152
PCIe 3
M.2 and SATA express support
Native USB 3 (most boards have a bridge chip now for that though)

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>>45603303

>shilling intensifies

Look at the AMD CPU, it destroys the intel.

>>45603302
>synthetic benchmark
>'Gaming performance!'
>buttmad when he gets showed actualy benchmarks in which even a low tier i3 shits all over his 'muh cores' fx 6300
Get out of here kid

>>45603313
>Yeah who cares if AMD beats Intel at the same price point

except It doesn't, see
>>45603292
>>45603303

> be me
> sell fx-9370 & 770 build for $1200
> new build with 4690k & 970
> stable overclock at 4.7ghz
> every emulator runs perfect
> southparkrandyjizz.jpg

>>45603319
>battlefield 4, the only outlier that actualy uses more than 4 cores

You proved my point, amd processors will only perform top in rare situations, in all other situations a low tier i3 has got it beat

>>45603328

The AMD CPU absolutely kills the Intel one.

It's not even a contest. I feel bad for Intel, their price performance ratio is HORRIBLE.

>>45603345
I wanted to see the ghz of the 6300 in those benches but they don't show it

>>45603345

Oh right...I'm sure that's why both the Xbox One and Playstation 4 use...

8-CORE AMD PROCESSORS

Because multi-cores are so bad for gaming right?

>>45603174
They use AMD cores because that was the only company that would license both CPU and GPU to be put on the same chip. MS and Sony both had trouble with the licensing for PowerPC cores last time. And devs are still complaining that the individual cpus aren't good enough for AI.

>>45603346
Can you fucking read? can you? are your eyes able to perceive that the i3 shits over the fx 6300 in both crysis and far cry?

There's not really much to say.

If you want muh gaymes,Intel has much better per core performance,so an i5 (4460-4690k) is clearly the answer.Other things benefits from this too.

For rendering,audio and things core-greedy the AMD takes the crown.

If anyone is making a build now,just ignore any FX cpus,AM3+ is a dead soc>>45603060
ket,wait atleast for the new AMD CPUs

>>45603359
See
>>45603360
Fucking rekt

>>45603328
>>45603345

You can cherry pick any game to show any particular cpu is better. In general performance, AMD chips are faster on the low end for gaming, because they're simply faster in general performance as well. Besides, CPU matters little in gaming performance, its a terrible metric for CPUs. It only matters when you specifically limit the GPU to bottle neck the CPU and expose the terrible optimized game's CPU performance. Games don't bother optimizing CPU usage because it matters so little.

For real applications that stress the CPU and are designed with CPU performance in mind, the AMD is better value.

>>45603363

The AMD beats the Intel in 99% of games.

Not only that, but its application performance is ridiculously higher, like you'd have to be a complete idiot to buy the Intel at that price point.

>>45603376
>"CPU's hardly matter for gaming!"
>Benchmark clearly shows a similar priced intel processor having higher frames per second at a noticable level on a high gaming resolution
>amd damage control

>>45603383
>The AMD beats the Intel in 99% of games.
Are you fucking retarded, where are you getting these numbers kid? All you've been able to come up with so far is synthetic benchmarks, and one benchmark of a game that is an outlier as it is designed to make us of more than 4 cores, in all other benchmarks the i3 shits over it

>99 percent of the games
Fucking toppest of keks, keep dreaming

>>45603406

you're being trolled newfag

stop posting

>>45603406

I'm sorry you bought an Intel CPU.

Next time you'll make a smarter choice and buy an AMD.

>>45603387

Sure, in one cherry picked benchmark. You can't argue that gaming benchmarks aren't a terrible metric for CPU performance. The GPU is always the limiting factor in real world usage. Game's CPU performance isn't optimized well because it doesn't matter. Intel happens to perform better for single core application. These days, any program that actually stresses the CPU is going to be optimized for multiple threads, and will likely preform better on AMD. (at the same price point).

>>45603423
>that buyers remorse
Well at least that amd processor will keep you warm this winter

>>45603432

Exactly. AMD will always win at the same price point. They're just the best bang for your buck by far.

Even games are being optimized for multi-cores now, because both major game consoles use 8-CORE AMD PROCESSORS.

>>45603432
>Sure, in one cherry picked benchmark
Actualy 3 benchmarks were shown, in two the intel beats the fx 6300
>you can't argue that gaming benchmarks aren't a terrible metric for CPU performance
Synthetic benchmarks are, gaming benchmarks are not.

I don't know why we are arguing about this, in terms of gaming performance you want the highest frames per second you can get, so if you test, and you keep all other factors equal and you see that there is almost a 20 percent difference in fps between two different cpu's, how can you claim 'cpu's don't matter' clearly they do

Don't worry guys, in 2020 games will finally use 8 cores so our FX's will finally pay out! Also all of our electrill bills and $ spent on cooling!

AMD is truly master race!

>>45603444
>AMD will always win at the same price point
>just showed you 3 benchmarks of a simmilar priced intel processor which beats it in two of them
>and will always win
Are you dense?

>>45603458

When you buy Intel, you spend twice as much money for even worse performance.

It's kinda pathetic how bad Intel's processors are compared to AMD.

>>45603470

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2252&cmp[]=1781

Rekt

>>45603472
>>45603292
>>45603303

>>45603482
Okay...and how does that relate to your statement that amd always beats intel at the same price point when I just showed you it gets shit on by the i3 in 2 out of 3 games?

Proprietary benchmarks are completely useless as they can not be verified.

>>45603495

AMD destroys the Intel in 99% of games.

That's why both the Xbox One and the PS4 use 8-core AMD processors.

AMD = the best gaming CPU

>>45603507
>AMD destroys the Intel in 99% of games
No it doesn't
See
>>45603292
>>45603303
>That's why both the Xbox One and the PS4 use 8-core AMD processors
No that's not why they use AMD processors, it's because:
>>45603360
Learn to fucking read

>>45603472
>twice as much
I can get a i5-4690k for 219 yuros and a 8350 for 167 yuros.

The difference is the i5 will last me 3-4 years,is newer,doesn't enter supernova mode and will pretty much destroy the AMD in most gaymes

>b-but games are for fags

At this price point you need to consider gaming,if you wanted just something to browse cuckchan you would get somethign much cheaper

>>45603529

The best gaming CPU is probably the FX-6300 which is only $99.

Amazing value and absolutely kills anything Intel in that price range.

Ehh I'm happy with my Phenom II 965. It's getting old but it's still been able to run everything I want well (except some ps2 emulation)
Hopefully the next line of processors will come out soon.

>>45603527

Someone is mad that their Intel CPU is now obsolete.

AMD = the newest generation of gaming CPUs

>>45603548
also it usually runs at 4 GHz without any problems

>>45603548
Yeah listen to this guy he is showing some very convincing evidence so far

>>45603558
Stick to consoles peasant boy

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I went from an athlon x4 desktop to an haslel i3 laptop and it's amazing the performance jump from an older quad core desktop cpu to a dual core mobile cpu.

I've been impressed so far, so much so that i've decided to get circumcised in support of Israel who gave us such processors. I then plan to move there and marry a qt Israeli girl so we can together go remove palestinians from the homeland. We will then have children and raise them to remove palestinians and amd from this earth.

Pic related is the average jewish male, so why the fuck haven't you waifud a qt jewess yet /g/?

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>games
Opinions invalidated.

>>45603527

I don't think anyone arguing that the i3 isn't faster for your cherry picked singled threaded games run on a cherry picked hardware and settings designed specifically to bottleneck the CPU.

Intel is faster in single core performance. Everyone knows that. But you cannot argue that the AMD isn't faster in multi threaded applications, it is by a wide margin.

Really though, there is little reason to get the i3 over the amd FX-6300 unless you really care about playing a handful of poorly optimized games on a poorly planned build with a disproportionate amount of GPU power.

>>45603596

I mean think about it, who's playing games at 1080+ on ultra, but runs a $99 cpu?

>>45603529
>At this price point you need to consider gaming,if you wanted just something to browse cuckchan you would get somethign much cheaper
This is why you need a better hobby. There is no happiness or fulfillment in high-end gaming, only wasted time and money.

>>45602451

I like my AMD CPU, I bought it to save money as I mostly compile software. Intel is too expensive for more cores :/

inb4: Intel is faster hurr durr

make -j<core count>

>>45603596
I think you'll find that if you want to argue for the amd processor you will have to do the cherry picking, there are very little games outside of battlefield 4 that will benefit from all the extra cores offered by the amd cpu

>>45603073
Jesus christ anon get your shit together

>>45603640
Are there any actual CPU benchmarks out there that use software compilation time as a metric?

I would be interested in that. That and ffmpeg is pretty much most of what I use heavy CPU lifting for.

>>45602535
>encouraging brandwars
please get a trip, shitposter

>>45603676

You're missing the point. There are very little games that will benefit at all from going intel or amd or really any slightly better CPU. Only in benchmarks specifically set up to stress the CPU will there be a difference. And in that case, you're benchmarking a unoptimized process that was never designed with performance in mind. Its a terrible metric for CPU performance.

In real world usage, whether you buy an i3-4150 or fx-6300, will not matter one bit in gaming. But the 6300 will perform far better in any application where cpu performance actually matters.

I will say tho that in very shitty, poorly written games, mostly shit console ports, the intel is going to noticeable beat the AMD just due to shear single core power with no optimization. I don't think anyone is going to have trouble running console ports in 2014 tho.

>>45603625
High end is brutal shit like SLI 970/290X for 4K gaming , my build is a 4690k + 280X for 740 dollaros,and it can run most new games at a stable 60 fps on ultra. I don't really care for resolutions above 1080p,so this build will last me for quite some time.

HOLYSHIT THE INTEL SHILL ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE TODAY
EAT A DICK YOU KIKE

>>45603834(You)
all I see are amd shills here,even one of them saying a FX-6300 can beat a GS358 in its price range top lel

I am more than happy with my Athlon X4 740. Why would I pay more when that suits my needs fine? Sure, Intel might be faster at many things, but this is already fast enough for the time being.

>>45603210
Bioshock.

>>45602950
>100% similar builds
That's like saying you 100% might be an idiot.
There's something else wrong with your build, obviously.
I say AMD for value, Intel for general performance.

>>45602984
Why the hell are all these benchmarks focused on gaming?
It's honestly very upsetting. Can't I just buy a CPU premised on the simple desire to have a nice computer?

>tfw fx 6300 oc'd to 4.3GHz
I'm happy with it. Not as good as an i5 but oh well, you get what you pay for.

>>45604004
bioshock
I liked that game but I wouldn't say that was a good and mature story. Well it was as mature as any Nolan movie, I can give you that.

i called it.

>>45603779
>You're missing the point. There are very little games that will benefit at all from going intel or amd or really any slightly better CPU
But you're wrong, and these pictures clearly show you are wrong
>>45603292
>>45603303

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>TFW I bought a mac last year and I fucking love it

>>45604390

No they don't. Those are benchmarks running games in 1080p on ultra with $99 cpus but top end graphics cards. They don't represent real world usage, where games are limited by the GPU and CPU performance matter very little. Reread my post, games never optimize CPU performance, its a terrible benchmark.

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>>45602635

Products /g/ will fingerbox troll you with


AMD CPU

Lenevo chinkpads

Installing a Linux Distro on your i74790k and GTX 980 gaming PC


etc


inb4 the unaware will start arguing and defend.

So is there any point in overclocking my 4770k past 4.0Ghz other than for masturbating?

>more expensive
>not much more efficient or faster
>worse quality track record
>remote killswitch included so the nsa can kill your computer
If you use Intel you are fucking stupid.

JS is single-threaded. If you browse the web all day you are better with intel. If you are playing good old games or emulate you are better with intel. If you use high-level languages you are better with intel because of abstractions overhead. That's all.

>>45604583
>>more expensive
Sure.
>>not much more efficient or faster
Objectively wrong, it's much more efficient energy wise and offers better performance per core. AMD's top of the line CPU can only compete with the i5, and only if the application is heavily multithreaded.
>>worse quality track record
No.
>>remote killswitch included so the nsa can kill your computer
Wrong, you literally need to install this.
>If you use Intel you are fucking stupid.
Kill yourself and enjoy your housefires.

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>>45604583


> be anon
> babbys first PC
> search for some gay porn torrents
> "gayest.exe"
> oh this sounds good
> open executable file
> PC explodes

> "this is the work of n-nsa! i'll never buy a intel CPU again"

>>45604602
>Objectively wrong, it's much more efficient energy wise and offers better performance per core. AMD's top of the line CPU can only compete with the i5, and only if the application is heavily multithreaded.
Wrong. You probably look at the intel-weighted bullshit benchmarks that have zero real-life weight. AMD can easily compete with anything Intel has. As I said, Intel will still slightly edge out because it is slightly faster, but not significantly enough to fucking matter in the slightest.
>you need to install this
Um, nope. It's fucking included in the goddamn chip and cannot be disabled. Sending a secure instruction is all it takes to shut down your PC for good.

>>45604437
How the fuck does that not represent real world usages? Many people with a good gpu game at 1080p ultra, including myself. It's probably the most used monitor resolution for gaming.
So again, you are wrong, and the facts show it.

>>45604804

I think the point is that someone who is concerned about CPU price is unlikely to be gaming on a GTX-Titan.

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>>45603210
>There's no videogame with an adult AND good story.
Syberia 1 & 2
but you can play that on a 10 year old PC

Generally the most mature games don't have high hardware requirements. It's only games for children that need 400$ GPUs and $300 CPUs, such as Battlefield, Far Cry or Call of Duty.

>>45604818
That's not what he said at all, he said that having an amd or intel cpu doesn't matter at all in real life usage because games are only gpu bottlenecked, which is simply wrong.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I got an FX-8350 and it runs everything I throw at it perfectly.

>>45604962

In real life usage, if you're concerned about the cost of your CPU, you're not going to be splurging on an insanely expensive GPU.

I don't hate intel or amd, but some of the shilling that intel fags do is a bit ridiculous.

>>45605028
And honestly, this is all that matters. That everyone is happy with their cpu.

>>45605028
honest opinion pls,do you think geting an 8350 is still worth it?For more 20 dollars I can get a 4460

>>45605073
Obviously get the Intel. I got my 840 for $115 on black friday.

>>45605073

i5 4460 is much underpowered in comparison. Only wins in single-threaded applications, but FX-8350 has much more going on.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4460-vs-AMD-FX-8350

>>45604897
>CoD
That thing hardly requires a powerful GPU, actually. I tried it out a while ago, runs smoothly at 4096x2160 on a single HD 7950; which as far as video games go basically means it doesn't tax at all.

Compare it to Metro: Last Light or Bioshock: Infinite for example, which runs at like 5 fps or something equally dogshit at this resolution.

>>45605030
Well I already agreed that if you are on a tight budget, the choice for an amd processor is often justified by pooring the excess money into a better graphics card.

That's a whole different ball game from saying 'cpu choice doesn't matter in real life usage' It does matter clearly, definately if you're not putting together a budget computer

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>>45605125
You're wrong
>>45605073
Judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFqQdrs5wEU
For gaming purpouses the i5 is definately the better choice

>>45605500
>more proprietary benchmarks

>>45603210
Since when do people think video games must have a story? I don't want to watch a movie or read a book and follow cheesy character development and plot twists and all that bullshit, I want to fucking play a video game. When did video game designers became a poor man's storytellers? When did all video games become the equivalent of bland visual novels with shiny graphix?

Can some rich basement dweller from /g/ buy a range of Intel and AMD CPUs with similarly priced motherboards and all the rest and actually do some god damn reliable real world benchmarks? We might finally get a real answer.

>>45603640
>make -j<core count>
try
make -j<2 x core count>
not joking

>>45602467
Intel = Best performance per Core, Multi Core (6 cores and up) processors are expensive as fuck. Some can overclock.

AMD = Shit performance per Core, Multi Core (6 cores and up) are dirt fucking cheap now. All can overclock.

>implying shill
>implying jews
>implying implications
>implying validation of purchases
>implying muh gaymez

>>45603205
>>45603191
>>45603179
>>45603169
>>45603160
>>45603047

Why the fuck are you retards actually arguing over this? Duel core processors are still a fucking minimal standard for a reason. If fucking video games run with only one to two fucking cores how many cores do you think will be used to run a fucking a spreadsheet?

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>>45606493

The G3258 is honestly one of the best things you can buy.

>>45603258
>"Don't build a PC for less than $800"
Not everyone has the money to blow on an i5.

>>45603049
inb4 the classic AMDrone response; "Well they're not good just now, but they will be soon, just wait and see!"
Oh shit, too late. Been hearing this same argument for over 10 years now by the way, I guess any time soon now huh

>>45603313
>"No one wants to game on a budget"

How good of an OC could I get with an FX8320 plus a Hyper Master 212?

>>45606521
whats that

>>45606708
salami

>>45606082
>>45606634
You can get a 2nd hand sandy bridge i5 for roughly the same if not cheaper than a new 8 core amd. And that thing will be superior in 90%+ of current games

>>45606718
CPU are nearly indestructible
Just make sure the pins are in order then you buy though

>>45606704
>Having a retail job is worthwhile investment so you can save some money on CPUs

>>45606778
I am already maxing out credits taken at college, and I'm bored otherwise. Why not make extra money on the side? Are you butthurt?

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I don't have any special love for AMD but I want to boycott Jewtel and buying AMD seems to be the only way to do it right now, other than buying some weird-ass ARM chip

>work at Best Buy
>customer comes in and asks which computers have AMD processors
>show him a few, but recommend him an Intel one
>says the last computer he purchased was from a decade ago, but it crapped out so now he has to buy a new one
>fixated on purchasing AMD because he insists his research from a decade ago is still accurate today
>asks why there are no disk drives with most of these computers
>says downloading software and drivers online is stupid
>says touch screens are stupid
>says Windows 8.1 is stupid and that XP is superior
>says this is why he never shops at Best Buy
>starts demanding compensation for his travel because we don't have a computer that fits his needs

>>45606853

What's your point with this story?

>>45602451
tfw im going to buy an amd cpu in about a month

> 8 (fuck you)

>>45602717
>used cpu for like $200usd

do u know how much new AMDs cost anon?

>>45602984
>Single core performance is still by far the most important thing when choosing a processor

no it isnt

>AMD doesn't have a single CPU better than the 4 year old (FOUR YEARS) 2500k

i have an intel machine with an amd card, and an amd machine with a nvidia card.

they both do what i need them to do.

i won't go back to an amd cpu unless there's some significant change when i upgrade 2-3 years from now. they're good enough, but it's splitting hairs when a good GPU costs $200-$400 and a good gaming cpu tops out in the low-mid $200 range.

all this budget BS, cut corners somewhere besides the fucking CPU and GPU. hold off on that SSD. buy one stick of ram for now instead of two because you know you don't 'need' 16 gigs of ram. cheap out on windows. hold off on that new high res monitor.

there's little excuse in this day and age to bitch and moan about CPU prices. a hundred dollar amd or intel will be fast enough for your fancy GPU, and the $200 version will be fast enough for those retarded games that offload things to the cpu that have no business being on the cpu in the first place.

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>>45602575
assmad tripfag in disguise detected

>>45603316
amd has all that you retard

>>45606704

explain this faggotry. these rockstar levels. what do you do to get this sort of discount and what do you charge people to get these at a discount?

i'd gladly throw you a couple twenties to get either of those cpu's under retail, fuck what that other guy said.

>>45603482
>WOW A SIX CORE CPU BEATS A DUAL CORE OMG AMD SO GUUUUUUUUD

Idiot.

>>45606927
Amd processors that are comparable in terms of gaming are more expensive, and run hot as fuck plus are huge powerhogs, so I'm very glad with my i5 2500k

>>45607014
It only beats it in synthetic benchmarks, in gaming it gets fucking rekt by an equaly priced i3

>>45607013
I think it's based on some quizes/surveys you have to do in order to gain points and "level up".
This was in the summer though I think and you needed to work on one of the approved retail stores

>>45606853
the guy seems to be far more savvy than you
he probably noticed what a shill you are and decided to troll you around

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>>45607013
Work at approved retail, do e-learnings. No point in going higher than Rockstar since it's a fucking pain.

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>>45602451 (OP)
>tfw i only returned my AMD cpu because the mobo i wanted for it wasn't in stock at the time.

found out a day or two after i put my build together that AMD was dropping out of the CPU game. that was a close one.

>>45603436
>amd max temp 65C
>intel max temp 105C

u dumb?

>>45606704
>Rock Legend
>Rockstar
>Producer
what does this mean?

isn't intel anti net neutrality?

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>retards/shills specifically choosing InTel-aviv instead of a decent non-jew alternative

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>>45607052
>let me pull some random numbers out of my ass

>>45607053
p-please be gentle, producer-san

>>45607049

holy jewry batman. there's really no point in going higher than rockstar.

what approved retails are these anyway, all i can assume is best buy and office depot/max, seems all other big box computer stores are dead and i know walmart doesn't give a shit if their employees know anything about compootahs.

>>45607091
http://retailedge.intel.com/Content/PopUp/2013_ASMO_Terms.html
Scroll down to Approved Retail chains.

>>45607071

Those numbers aren't too much out of reality, given the shit cooling Intel CPU has ever since Ivybridge

>Intel users are required to delid and lap their CPUs in order to get adequate temperatures

>>45607109
I have a sandy bridge and it doesn't go over 55 degrees during gaming while I got it overclocked to 4,3 ghz

>>45607135

Which cooler?

As I said, ever since Ivybridge they've been sloppy with thermal solutions, I'm pretty sure Sandy is safe.

>>45607157
mugen 4

But lets get real here, amd cpu's , especialy the heavier ones 8 cores and up get much hotter, even than ivy bridge shitty cooling

>>45607105

i am shocked. interesting.

>>45607172

No it doesn't. My 8350 barely does over 60C under stress.

That being said, AMD's max functional temperature is well below Intel's.

>>45603360
The individual cores aren't that great for running one super-advanced AI or a bunch of shitty ones, but devs don't seem to fucking think about putting multiple AIs onto multiple cores because ???????
Devs are fucking retarded, if they would actually spread the weight of the game across the cores they would be doing much better.

>>45607206
60 is pleb tier, 55c masterrace

>>45607206
My max temp even when stress testing my overclocks was 47.1c I'm more worried about my motherboard, one of it's temperature gauges read 61c so i decided to tone my oc down till it was 59c.

>>45607375
8350 black edition, forgot to mention.

>>45607172
This is a misconception. The problem is in older AM3+ socket motherboards without heat sinks on their vrm tend to burn out. The solution is spend more that 30$ on a motherboard with solid cap capacitors and heat sinks on vrm. Most of these Mobos are listed as NOT being compatible with 8core but poor fags gana poor.

I just advised my little bro to build an AMD APU rig. He hasn't bought anything yet. Did I do wrong, /g/? He wants something powerful and inexpensive. Should I have him go with an i3 or something instead?

>>45607267

In the end it doesn't matter, as long as it doesn't go close to the max temp.

>>45602451
>tfw I bought an AMD cpu
feels good not being a fucking child who only uses his computer for video games

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x5960 - not OC'd yet - reporting in.

Made a complex project inside After Effects.

Rendered with old PC and new.

>Old PC: fx-8350 - GTX 660 - 16gb ram
>New PC: x5960 - TGX 970 - 32gb ram

Render time was 12 times faster on the new PC.

>>45607510
if he's looking to spend <$500 then you made a good recommendation, anything above $1000 and he should be going intel though.

>>45602451
>tfw bought an AMD APU for my htpc
happyfrog.jpeg

>>45607589
and also 12x more expensive
funny how that works
;^)

>>45607651
He was looking about 350 to 400

>>45607668
yeah then AMD APU build is pretty much the only choice with a decent level of performance per dollar.

>>45607662
I paid only $600 for the 5960x
Brand new :^)

>>45607678
thanks, mate, i thought i done goofed.

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>>45603060
This

>make -j8
Feels good men.