>>45527198 There is no good tablet OS to be honest. iPads have a generally better tablet-optimized app selection than everything else but the OS restrictions suck, Android apps work decent on tablets even when not optimized, but it's still a smartphone OS ultimately, Windows just frankly lacks apps and the gestures are not thought out very well, though the general idea is good. I really hope Sailfish will nail it, gestures, split-screen, mostly open OS - they have conceptually everything to make it work, but being a small project there's no guarantee it will.
Restricting the choice to the OP post, for the general user I will hands down recommend Android. But I have bought a Windows 8.1 Bing tablet and for my use case it's great. Like I said, it's pretty far from being a great tablet OS, but I just need a tablet with full Windows and I got used to some of the idiosyncrasies. I hope Windows 10 will improve things and Microsoft makes a better app store. Classic mode works as expected, but Metro mode really needs some improvement. I'm enjoying the fluidity of apps though, I have a 190$ 2048x1536 Atom-equipped 8-incher and the Metro apps except for browsers perform really, really fluid. More so than the apps on my more powerful phone with lower resolution. But some of them are riddled with bugs... No wonder since nobody cares enough to debug them.
>>45527770 >>45527693 >>45527679 I've received my 8-inch Z3736F-equipped 2048x1536 on friday, I paid $189 for it. It's really well-built, has a mostly aluminum body and works pretty well with things where the resolution doesn't become a big bottleneck. The battery doesn't last long though, but I expected that.
I'm using Cover to read manga on it, it's absolutely perfect, dead simple and works better than Android apps (Perfect Viewer a laggy ugly mess), though unfortunately shareware, I just avoid paying by keeping my library under 25 archives. Visual novels work fine except for some that act retarded with touch, I use Touchmousepointer for those (Hanabira for the most part, it's known for having a retarded engine in general).
So yeah, there are no miracles, Chinese tablets are still Chinese tablets, but they are making some good shit now, I'm really happy with what I've got. I would still recommend an Android tablet for most people though (miPad for manga/pdf, Shield for everything else), my use case is very specific and I knew what I would be getting into by purchasing a Windows tablet. No regrets though.
It's Teclast X89 Z3736F if anyone's wondering, called, duh, "tPad" on the box, but not in stores.
>>45527964 This was the tablet I was gunning for originally, it's the most popular out of these, but when I saw that there's an 8-incher I went for that instead. I know the battery sucks but those two inches really matter for me since I need it to be maximum portable and not stand out much.
Teclast X98 Air 3G or Air II are also a good alternative for V975W, same specs, same price, decent reviews. Onda's more well known outside of China, but they're both good.
>>45528749 I don't think there are any of note, though I might be mistaken. Most chinese manufacturers try to keep prices below $300 since they're targeting the domestic market and that makes making Surface clones an almost impossible task. Unfortunately you'll need to shell out Surface prices for Surfaces or analogues.
Then again, if an Atom tablet with a keyboard is surface enough for you, there are a lot of options.
Gotta admit that Surface is a unique product that's a marvel of engineering in its own right, even though it is priced incredibly high. If it was a convertible instead of a tablet with a hinge it'd move a lot of units, but Microsoft wants to push their own vision with it.
>>45528957 Android has hands down more programs that work well on keyboard-less touch devices including tablets. This is really hard to argue against. I'm still using a Windows tablet for reasons (classic apps being the most important one of them), but I weep at the amount of Metro apps.
>>45528749 There are plenty of Surface clones, but there are no Chinese Surface clones. The direct competitor to the Surface include the: Wacom Companion (Japanese, overpriced) Dell Latitude 13 E7350 2-in-1 (Convertible Ultrabook, digitizer optional)
Poor Man's Surfaces include: The Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 (poor processing power and RAM, also charges badly) The Dell Venue Pro 8 or 11 with Intel i5 (The pen and keyboard are optional accessories) The ThinkPad Tablet 8 (competitive with the Dell Venue, not gimped) The Dell Latitude 10 (Business version of the Dell Venue)
>>45529137 x86 Windows Tablets can install anything on them. Even Android. Even Gentoo. Android tablets are pathetic in their hardware support. If you want a tablet that is a real computer, you want a Windows tablet. That's why I bought a ThinkPad Tablet 2. Regardless of how underpowered it is, it is perfectly reasonable for me to plug in any peripherals designed for PCs and expect them to work perfectly. Barring the TPT2, which can't deliver enough amperage to peripherals with motors, this is the case for most Windows tablets. You can't say the same about Android tablets.
>>45529308 Yes, that's why I have a Windows tablet as well. It's just that nobody needs a real computer these days.
But Android emulation is still pretty mediocre. That said, new 10-inch Teclasts have dual-boot between Android and Windows by default which is pretty darn nifty.
>>45529364 The drivers for all components are still closed source though. Combined with Gapps this is enough reason to worry if you do worry about these things. I stopped caring because I want to get on with life (I know I'm posting on 4chan for fuck's sake, but regardless).
That said, I did order a Jolla Tablet, the GUI isn't open but most of the OS is. Maybe they'll get Intel to open source some drivers, too, who knows, although I'm not really counting on it.
I guess x86 windows 8 on a tablet could be ok but the main issue is that the "hybrids" are using intel processors that just aren't ready for mobile yet.
Take SP3, the i5/i7 makes no sense, they are ulv (low performance) parts and you will never be able to take advantage of them because if you run any kind of workloads that could use it you are going to be draining battery fast + the CPU/GPU will both throttle quickly so what is the point? You get a half ass tablet and an even worse ultrabook for more than the cost of just buying one or the other that is better for its purpose.
Maybe the Surface Pro 5 and up will be where it hits a sweet spot but currently all the TabTops I have tried have been mediocre at best.
The only problem I have with my win 8 tablet is the browser. If I use chrome on desktop or metro mode the tabs are tiny as puck and make it hard to tab over and close shit. I ended up using ie metro and its as smooth as my desktop in browsing and video watching, even 4k video and Netflix. Also metro id tab support is built for finger browsing while chrome is not. The only downside is metro ie disables all plugins. Oh and being able to install native win apps like steam is super useful
it really doesn't matter unless you're doing more than just reading on your tablet. If you're using it as a portable second screen then it doesn't matter. Comics, pdfs, emails and the like are done well on both platforms. If you're actually making heavy edits to content then you're probably better off with a laptop
Windows tablets are UMPCs first, tablets second. They have a small range of tablet apps for basic tasks and are reasonably usable for desktop applications with touch, but the best experience is with a keyboard case and wireless mouse.
If you just want to use it as a tablet with no other input devices, an Android device is better for you.
>>45535441 >Windows tablets are UMPCs first, tablets second My favourite thing about them. We've needed UMPCs back for a long time, this isn't even close to the best form factor, but it's better than an ARM tablet running Android.
>>45535624 I think they're great as UMPCs. Maybe not the most ideal form factor for them, but a tablet in a keyboard case is pretty nice. I just wish they made better keyboards in those cases and included touchpads or a trackpoint.
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