Old thread is +300 let us start anew.
Muh old fleet. Most have been sold off.
I'm sure they are proud to have called you user.
Meanwhile, I wonder when (if?) lenovo will stop the chiclet-key/chinkpad nonsense.
Island style keyboards are probably here to stay. The next generation of T series and X series are allegedly going to return to dedicated TrackPoint buttons, however.
Pic related: simpler times
Arguably there's nothing wrong with the chiclets design. I'm going to say that most people on /g/ can type on their keyboard without looking at it so why would it bother you?
The real problem is the keyboard layout which has been utterly fucked.
The removal of the trackpoint buttons is a step back in usability. The clickpad takes a stupid amount of force to activate and it's really quite fatiguing to use, not to mention the loud noise.
Removing the status LEDs was a step back as well, how can I see if my disk is just being thrashed vs. a complete lock up.
The lack of inner metal rollcage is also a step back for durability, along with the use of soldered RAM.
Source: I had to use a T440p for a while
the description was vague. The vendor says it powers on, but then it crashes and doesn't load windows.
I read on the wiki that X40 are prone to hard drive failures because they use 1.8" drives.
-Enterprise grade durability
-Modular design makes repairs fairly simple
-Affordability of used/refurb models on eBay
-Vintage aesthetic with roots to the early 90s that /g/ users connect with
Basically they are the anti-MacBook, although this has become less true over the years as Lenovo has bastardized the ThinkPad line with "me too" MacBook features (huge trackpad, island style keyboard, function key nonsense).
Jesus fuck all these newfags who can't bother to research on their own. But fine, I'll spoonfeed you this once:
>used ThinkPads are cheap
>good *nix support
>T, X and W series have amazing build quality
>very modular with many aftermarket parts to choose from
>older models have outdated hardware that are prone to failure
>some models can be pretty heavy if you're a limpwristed faggot
>looks boring/ugly (subjective)
Note that newer ChinkPads with chiclet keys, clickpad and no trackpoint buttons have much lower build quality and are considered not "true" ThinkPads
Lurk moar if you wish to truly comprehend /g/'s fetish over this line of machines
I've never understood this downside. Thinkpads are IMO beautifully designed because they have such a strong design statement that they make themselves immediately recognizable. They're on the same level as mbp or mba but the antithesis of their design philosophy.
It looks boring and ugly if you buy into the marketing that Mac has the best aesthetics.
To me the beauty of a thinkpad is a machine that looks serious and is ready to do serious work. Computers are tools, not toys.
But T440p doesn't have soldered ram. It's the T440, T440s and X240 that have it.
So coming from the previous thread and the keyboard question >>45527811
Is it really about the layout more than anything?
The feel. ThinkPad keyboards (even the post 2012 island style) have a tremendous tactile feel to them. There really isn't anybody who comes close to topping the ThinkPad keyboard even in 2014.
should I go for it /tpg/
apparently the hardware will work well with linux
Kinda waiting for that now, not going to need one for alteast another 3 months so i'm really hoping the price on a T420 with a 1600x900 panel drops down.
Elsewhere i'm going for a Dell E6420, since there isn't enough of a difference between in them terms of reliabilty and hardware.
Where do you get your carbon fiber, and do they give out free samples? I only need enough to cover my trackpad.
On another note, Captchas are different now? I can on;y see them with Appchan off, and I only had to click a button
can anybody here speak to the accuracy of the fingerprint reader on the t420?
I plan to use it instead of entering my password for things like sudo, but the one other time i used a finger-print reader for this it was hit or miss and not very consistent, even when i did the exact same motion with my finger
>>45526686 here, yes the layout kills what is truly the best laptop keyboard in the market hands down.
Honestly, I'm going to say in terms of solidity and tactile feel it beats the old style keyboards hands down.
Also soldered RAM is inexcusable when Dell and HP are shipping equivalent laptops with 2 SODIMM slots.
HP has made a crime by not making a newer laptop with the customize options similar to that of 2570p. It's a beast, upgradeable from dual core to quad core, two ram slots, 100whr battery for those 12 hour work times and 20 hours of idle, can set up a RAID 0. The only bad point is the screen.
I've owned a T43,T60,T61,T400,T410,T420,T430, and T440p. The T440p feels just as solid as the T420/30 and in some ways (USB placement for example) it is superior. T430 has its USB3 ports in a hard to reach place where some connectors won't fit.
I use the trackpoint exclusively and adjusting to the touchpad buttons actually was fairly easy. It feels okay and is only marginally worse than the traditional buttons. I'm glad they are likely returning with the *50 line but I could get over it if they didn't.
What I dislike most is the function keys. Screwing with the fn key is a real bummer.
Yeah it is the best you're going to find if you are looking for a classic ThinkPad. The build quality is solid. Parts are easily upgraded via a single big back panel which is held by two screws. Traditional hinges. Ultrabay. Oh and nother thing that has improved from the T430 is that the speaker grills are no longer on facing upwards waiting to be filled with dust.
It's a well built business laptop with some disappointing but bearable compromises in the TrackPoint department.
Would going from an Intel Celeron 847 to an i5-2520M grant a noticeable leap in performance? Currently deciding to buy an X220, but seeing as it costs about 350€ where I live, I am not sure if it's worth it.
I've heard the screen is lackluster in the T440p. would you agree?
Any new ThinkPads coming up? I like the ThinkPads, but they are too bulky for my liking. I like the Carbon X1 and the X240.
Currently, I own an Ideapad S10-3 which is really beautiful. I want something similar looking to this.
lenovo really needs to remake this but with updated specs
also, im looking for ID card ideas, gimme what you got
>tfw not a card carrying memeber of thinkpad nobility because there is no card
I bought a T420 for $340 AU last week. i5 2540M, NV 4200M graphics, 900p screen. Great condition. Just gotta hunt around for them.
Mind you they told me the screen was 1366x768 so I did get a good deal in that regard.
Can anyone give me a hand? I have this laptop and I'll be getting a Series 3 dock in a couple of days which will have a monitor attached to the DP and a monitor attached to the DVI. How would I go about automatically enabling those monitors with xrandr and disabling the internal laptop monitor (I'd rather keep it closed). I'm running Arch.
If you're on wireless rather than a wired network, your wifi signal will go to shit if you close the laptop. Just something to note.
Also, if you haven't already bought the dock, try looking for a Mini Dock Series 3 *Plus*. It's a little wider but it has two DP, two DVI, and an eSATA port.
They usually only go for a little more over the non-Plus docks.
Yeah I bought the dock yesterday, I'll only be connecting 2 monitors and I don't use eSATA so wouldn't make use of it anyway. In Ausland the Plus docks go for quite a lot more too, I bought my non-plus for $75.
I inherited a T410. It is occasionally giving me "fan error", but I figure if I replace the fan it could still have lots of life in it.
Would upgrading from 4gb ram to 8gb give noticeable improvement, say in photoshop?
Can I put an SSD in this thing?
oh cool! so one for the OS and one for storage?
I have Windows 7 64 bit, is it worth trying 8.1 or waiting for 10?
Also, currently playing Half-Life with the clit mouse and it's surprisingly playable!
it says commit: 2030 / 7909
last time it gave frequent fan error, a friemd fixed it with silicon spray. I'd feel better with a replacement, but not sure if i should attempt diy or go to a store
Stick with Windows 7.
You can get an "Ultrabay hard drive caddy" to replace your CD drive, and stick a second drive in there.
But if you're going to swap an SSD into it, you should probably stick that in the main drive bay in case you actually need the CD drive for something...
Just got my first thinkpad. A refurbished X1 with sandy bridge i7 and 8GB of ram. Very first thing I did is install Windows 10. Actually a very nice machine, works well runs all my VMs nicely. Only regret is not getting one sooner.
>Sandy Bridge X1
how's your battery life?
why not? its not like its going to stay that way, it'll probably have debian or something on it soon enough. I just dislike windows 7.
Much better than the computer it replaced, an asus ROG series monstrosity. So to me it feels like the battery lasts forever.
So, /g/ what ThinkPad purchases have you gotten?
>nabbed a 2x 770X hard drive caddies for about 13 bucks. Usually they are overpriced on eBay, the damn HDD is thick too, at least 15mm, the caddy is about 19mm.
>got a bubbly X61T for $30 that is probably missing ram, got an extra X61 mobo that I'll swap, probably will sell it for $110
>got a T400 and R400 for $55, T400 missing an UltraBay, R400 might just be missing ram it doesn't boot, hoping the R400 just needs that. gonna grab an HDD and resell for about $90, might hack the R400 into a Z61t chassis I have, ultrabay and USBs will most likely be destroyed.
>T410 for just under $100, taking a chance with this, comes with a WXGA+ screen, and unknown condition battery. Might keep this for myself for the X300 backup, has integrated graphics. Saw that they sell for $160 easily in this condition, probably will carbon fiber wrap it.
I'll most likely post a video of the R400 and the 1-3-3-1 ram beep. A tutorial to CF faggotry.
>still being a lazy fuck with the intro video
$450.00 on ebay (refurbished). Had to clean it obviously, but it was undamaged. Even got to remove a bunch of factory protective plastic shit :D
Hopefully I'll have it up by midnight.
Only one video so far, I got too drunk while recording and fell asleep
Flipping working ones would probably score at least $30 after shipping and costs via eBay... it depends.
I'd take them for that much if the LCDs are in good condition and if there are at least 8 working units.
If you are able to get the TYPE numbers on them and find out what they are spec'd from the factory, I'd go for it. You'd don't want to end up with only XGA/WXGA machines, might get lucky on a SXGA+ or WUXGA unit. You can resell those for a pretty penny imo.
If you have an HDD with an OS installed, you might be lucky to sell them for $80+, more so on the batteries working great.
The spring-loaded latch that holds the battery in place on the right side of the battery snapped and went flying, can I order this part online or should I try to entertain Lenovo enough so they'll send it to me?
Running a T500 2089-CTO
doubt it, T410 is 16:10, T420 is 16:9
RAM, HDD, and maybe Wifi can be exchanged, but everything else is probably different.
Okay maybe the batteries might be swapable but I don't know.
Heck, ever since the T410, I don't think any ThinkPad have common parts to swap like the T60 to T500
Yeah, that would suck. The seller told me it was unlocked, but I'll check it out.
I think I'm going to bring my UV LED keychain, and scan it on the spot just to freak the guy out a little bit.
I would. I get 150 all day for T61s with Middleton BIOS and Windows 7.
Middleton upgrades the SLIC and removes the whitelist, and these recovery disks also work on T61s. Many customers like the original restore partition and Lenovo software. I prefer plain installs myself.
You need a charged battery to flash, and enable flash over LAN in BI0S. I flash using a bootable CD burned at slowest possible speed.