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/tpg/ - ThinkPad General
PowerPC Edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bxJIA8hscI
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is it time to replace the fan or what?

>http://a.pomf.se/xvadsi.mp4
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Is it the same when buying SSD from ebay as in local store?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SanDisk-64GB-SSD-475MB-s-SATA-6-Gbits-s-Solid-State-Drive-64-GB-G-Internal-/141389416407?pt=UK_Computing_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item20eb7747d7
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>>45450591
Yes
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>>45450639
>>45450591
will 60GB do for a x61T?
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>>45450999
Do you plan on storing more than 60GB of information?
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>>45451104
not really, I have a 250GB SSD in my x201 but looks like I am only using 25GB, how good are SandDisk with SSD,
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>>45451190

SandDisk are good and fast. The prices are ok... If you just want speed, Samsung 840 EVO. Reliability, Intel. Great price to reliability and performance, SandDisk, Kingston, AData, Mushkin.


If you're a dumbass like me, a 60gb OCZ ssd. Reliable fast low power but with a 120mb/s peak... yea...
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How much should i be paying for a good condition X201 or x220 tablet with 4g ram? Also how viable is an x200 tablet with 4 gigs of ram for running windows 8 with a few drawing program and maybe a lightweight distro, as in will it be too slow for me to even want to use it? I've seen a few videos of win8 on the core duo tablets but if like /g/'s input before pulling the trigger
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>>45452688
http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
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>>45453063
I've seen this af the infographic in the wiki, neither answered the performance questions I had about the x200 tablet though, just wanted to make sure I didn't get an x200 for a hundred that turns out useless and then wish I would have just forked over a bit more for a x220 or x201
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>>45453164
Well it's a C2D ULV chip so it's not going to be blazing fast but it should cope with 1080p video.
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>PPC
a shame IBM didn't made much more of those beauties.
>dat boot bitmap and sound scheme
>no winkey
>NT4
...and here goes my feels. i loved how tough this OS. it never ever crashed. if MS kept at least a distro of 2000 pro for PPC and other gears that'd had been clever, but they didn't...
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just bought a latitude e4310 instead of looking for a thinkpad. make me feel bad, /g/
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>>45453222
>latitude e4310
order a couple of thinkpad stickers on ebay. slap an EFF sticker over the DELL logos and you're done. This will stay between you and me.
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>>45453222
>E4310

Good choice m8

Sexy as fuck.
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>>45450190
http://youtu.be/wY3u9f9QJSA

are you hype yet /g/?
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>>45453200
Well I've got a c720 with a 1.4 ghz haswell but the 2gigs of ram it has makes chroot linux run hella slow, I'd still use the chromebook because I genuinely like the lightweight os and simplicity but I guess my question is do you think win8 and the wacom will add enough functionality for me to use it and not just leave it in a drawer while I still have a nice ass desktop and a chromebook?
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>>45453254
>>45453271
I really only wanted a thinkpad for the clit. this has one and was cheaper
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>>45453337
>keyboard layout still fucked
>no status leds

A Precision M4800/3800 is better than that shit.
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>>45453337
>shit keyboard
nope
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Tfw browsing /g/ from bed on my x200 while it's snowing outside.

Comfy feels are being felt
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What is a reasonable price for a used T43?
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>>45453377
>>45453385
>Confirmed for no job having autists
Keep using your antiques while real professionals get their work done with the latest mobile workstations from Lenovo.
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>>45453447
$10
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So /tpg/, I've had the chance to use a T440p for the last day or so as I've had to set it up for a family member.

My daily driver is a M4800.

Good things:
Trackpoint is really nice compared to the shitty Dell trackpoint

Keyboard feel is nicer than the Dell, more crisp keys. I really prefer it over the M4800 keyboard feel

Uses M.2 cards

Bad things:
Keyboard layout is absolutely shit, there's no way around it

Clickpad is horrible, requires too much activation force and is loud

Build is poor in places, the LCD panel assembly is really quite flimsy

Port layout is poor as the USB 3 ports are too close together

No HDMI port

Speaker is shit

Any questions?
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>>45453514
Does it feel like it would break if accidentally dropped?
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I have a x230 as my laptop and I am wondering if it would be retarded to get the usb compact keyboard for my desktop... I kind of wanted the same typing experience ony desktop but the new keyboard doesn't have palm rest and it has even fewer buttons than my laptop. Is there a cheap way to get the replacement keyboard working with usb or ps2 interface so I don't lose buttons?
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>>45453559
The base feels solid, but the magnesium rollcage has been removed?

It's a plastic laptop so it would crack when you drop it.

I think this could get away with one drop over its lifetime.

The Dell is made out of aluminium with a magnesium rollcage so it would dent instead of crack.
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>>45453514
>no hdmi port
Do you even mDP 1.2 faggot.
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>>45453634
The M4800 has VGA, HDMI and a full sized DP.
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>>45453337
nice, but im still gonna wait for the skylake version hopefully at the end of 2015
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>>45453649
If it were up to faggots like you we would still have serial ports on laptops. Get with the times grandpa
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>>45453846
What are you even talking about?

>TVs
>Having a DP
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>>45453846
I am still pissed that serial got removed. It was easier to work with. I don't give a fuck how thin a laptop is. Now you have to look up what serial port your usb thinks it is.
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x61 & x61T, got the same keyboard?, I need to get a new one because mine is with US layout.
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>>45454835
damn $40-50 for the keyboard...
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>>45453514
>speaker is shit
Well it aint no A31p

>>45453447
Paid about $68 for mine, got lucky for the battery working w/ a 3 hour charge
Just needed a PATA HDD, had a spare 160GB.
only drawback is that it has a yellow tint on the edges of the screen, still has a beautiful IPS display

>>45453219
I really want an 800 series and a 500 series, maybe get lucky with a tablet 700 series or early morphable model.

>>45454835
The connector is slightly different, plus some keycaps are different as well.
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have a t400
just ordered an x200 with everything for 85 bucks
plan on taking it to class etc
will run freebsd
how did i do?
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>>45454894
Very good!
I've sold one for $130 and if its under $90 its def a good deal
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> idiots falling for the thinkpad trap

enjoy your lenevo chinkpads u utter spergelords
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>>45453628
They don't have the roll cage on new tps?
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>>45453432
X200 bro. <3
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>>45454995
What trap are you talking about? (;
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/201193882427#viTabs_0

Any thoughts? Want to get this for my dad as a work laptop, mostly tons of outlook email, tons of browsing, some PDF editing.

Decent deal or too high? Iffy? Should get him another one instead?
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>>45455042
not even close to passable
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I'm coming from a x61s and this thing feels blazing fast, about the same weight though.
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>>45453495
> bragging to /g/ about having a job

Go back to school, kid.
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>>45454894
Where'd you get one for 90? I'm jelly
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>>45454894
I run FreeBSD on my x200t, everything works except for my eraser on my stylus. I'd imagine the regular x200 hardware to be just as well supported.
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>>45453219
>>>/mlp/
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>>45455451
ebay
just got really lucky
>>45455528
on my t400 suspend/resume breaks usb, is that a problem on an x200?
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>>45455594
Oh yeah, I forgot suspend and resume is 100% broken at least on the x200t. Suspending just locks up my machine.
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>>45453385
>uses a little girl, who was sexually abused as an reaction image
faggot
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>>45450190
I use an x220 and switched it to Ubuntu GNOME. On Windows I used to have little/no accel and high speed to use the trackpoint. Right now I have pointing devices and I set the speed to the top and it's still not enough to work nicely. How do I easily get this shit running well?
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>>45450190
wow. is that the regular bios procedure to make it boot? if so no wonder PPC never gained any share in the mass market...
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>>45455225

Anyone? T420 for $259, i5, 500gb hdd, 4gb ram. Seems like it's in good condition
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>>45455309
what ssd is it, how much did it cost you, need one for my x61T,
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>>45455986
hey brah, check out EliteBook 8460p
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>>45450244
anyone?
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>>45456020
>EliteBook 8460p

Exactly how much better is that than the t420? Honestly the aesthetic of the thinkpad is better while they both seem the same in price/specs, and I've heard good things about the thinkpads keyboards. If this one brings something else to the table I'd definitely consider it.
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>>45456053
lets see, with the extended battery side battery and the dock battery you can get full 24 hours use. dont want side battery? how about one ssd, one 1tb hdd?

much better hinges, lol looks good cause metal, great matte display?

but then again, this is a tp thread
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>>45456012
Not him but X61T owner here, you can put any full-size 2.5" SSD in it.
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>>45456127
which SSD are good these days that dont cost to much 60/120GB.
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>>45456141
If you don't plan to upgrade the laptop soon while keeping the ssd, anything currently produced saturates sata2 so only think about reliability/warranty. Might as well get something old if it's on good sale, older (more nm) chips are supposed to have more write cycles (as if that matters).

[spoiler]I have an ancient OCZ SandForce drive so you might as well discard my opinion.[/spoiler]
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>>45456012
I'm using an "old" samsung 830 from when they were ~$100, you can probably do a LOT better today
SSD for tablets is almost required, you can shake that badboy as much as you want without having the drive park
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Just got an x200 tablet with 4 gigs of ram and a 250 gb hard drive for 110 total from eBay, how'd I do?
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>>45456235
the x61T & x201 are my main laptops, I hope they last me a few years.
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>>45450190
I'm a noob, what's so special about this?
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>>45455986
Mine's 1600x900, nVIDIA, 8GB RAM and 320GB HDD. I bought it for $240 a week ago.

>>45456141
120GB refurbs go around for $50

>>45456262
sgud. I really loved mine until I sold it for my T420.
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>>45450190
Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E545
new for 370 bucks

Should I do it?
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>>45456248
I was looking into sandDisk or Kingston, but read some comments on the Kingston people saying it has low read&write.
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>>45456348
Are you edgy?
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>>45456346
whats the risks of buying refubs SSD's
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>>45456358
Yeah, I'd stick to Samsung, Intel or Corsair.
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>>45453337
>ultrabook workstation

isn't this an oxymoron?
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>>45456344
That's an IBM Thinkpad that uses an IBM PowerPC CPU instead of an Intel or AMD x86 CPU. This is the same sort of CPU that Apple computers used until about 10 years ago that could curb stomp Intel processors, even at lower clock speeds.
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>>45456428
Yup. Ultrabooks are slow indervolted flimsy trash.
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What OS should I install on my Thinkpad t60 with only 2gb of ram? Crunchbang?

also does microsoft excel and word work on it
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>>45456358
There is more to SSD's than just the speeds...
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>>45456416
like , Intel 520 Series 120GB?
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>>45456358
I've had about three years on my Patriot Pyro with my X61T, still tickin well

My Adata on my W700ds is doing well, but it was having some BSoDs when coming back from hibernation.
I shut it off now.

>>45456344
For the time they came packed with a lot of ram as well, but they were insanely expensive.
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Bought a T420 with i5 2540M + Nvidia 4200M for $340 ausfag dollars. How did I do?
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>>45456453
>does MS office work on linux

no

but there is alternative office programs
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>>45456453
Xubuntu works fine on my x201t with 2GB of RAM. Also, use Libreoffice.
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>>45456479
>2GB RAM.
pls dont make it suffer!
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>>45456374
SSD refurbs are mostly non broken returns. Nothing much you can really fix/recondition in it aside from firmware so I assume most issues are in that regards

I bought 3 120GB Crucials and they're still fine after 2 years.
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>>45456456
Seems fine.
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>I have a stupid question

I'm trying to buy a speaker mesh and a speaker mesh a lone for my t410s but can't seem to find any retailers online. Does anyone know where I can buy one from? My laptop looks real shitty with a left speaker mesh missing ;_;

Fucking cats biting my thinkpad
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ping parrotfren
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>>45456572
Why don't you just take out the other so it matches?
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How many and what thinkpads do you guys own?
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is this a shitty deal guys

and is the x201 tablet any good for a basic mobile work/movie station?
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>>45456620
b-b-because i want it to look new as possible. With the exception of the missing speaker mesh everything is looks great.

I'm a little surprised that I can't find a selling on the entire internet.
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>>45456640
had 8
, now only 3.
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>>45456640
3
x200 (fav)
t61 (2nd fav)
x61t (is kill)
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>>45456648
Not really since it uses low-voltage CPU's.
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>>45456640
Previously had T41 14", T42 14", T42p 15", T60 15"
Current:
X61T SXGA+ (without bubbles)
T61p UXGA-LED
Now I only need W701ds
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chinpads everywhere
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>>45456640
about 10 away from needing to see a shrink
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>>45456640
2x T60, X200t, X200 and T420.
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>>45456515
Xubuntu is pretty lightweight though, it even runs fine on my dad's eee PC.
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>>45455042
those teeth ew
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Got 2 right now.... x200 and a t400. Want a x61t or a t61p though.
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>x200
>ips
is this a ruse?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-IBM-ThinkPad-X200-12-1-Laptop-C2D-2-4GHz-320GB-4GB-IPS-/151466562338?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item23441c5322
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-4236B27-/171566764528?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item27f22d11f0

should i get this or wait for cheaper? this will be my first thinkpad
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What is the best thinkpad x series that is powerful? Should I just go for the t series? I already have a x61, and I want to replace it.
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>>45457645
probably

description also says "x200 tablet pc" and it's clearly not a tablet
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>>45457645
It says tablet in the description. Might be an error listing.
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>>45457679
Hah. I bought a T420 from that seller for $240 Buy It Now because I really need a replacement badly.

I'm using it right now.
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>>45455933
PPC Macs booted many times faster. The slow boot time was probably due to funkiness with NT.
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>>45457679
T420 laptops go for about 180 with an OS depending on condition/who's bidding.

It would just need a nice keyboard and maybe a carbon fiber wrap to look nice.
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>>45457777
is that a fucking outlook button?
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>>45453432
>>45454894
>>45455528
>>45455041
just joined in with the x200 bros, fantastic computer. Any of you have experience with coreboot/libreboot?
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>>45457777
>>45457722
Quads + Dubs confirm
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alright /g/, I decided I want a thinkpad for college. Is the best bet a x220 or x230, should I go for a tablet edition? Anything I should be looking for when I buy?

I own a T61 but got burned. It doesn't turn off. Only restarts.
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>>45458144
X220t has shit digitizer so X201t if you want a good ThinkPad tablet.
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>>45458185
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind.
Do you guys find yourself drawing on your thinkpads often?
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what's a good price for a x61t (tablet)?
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Hey fellas, is the x230 too new to be considered a good ThinkPad?
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>>45458226
As long as there are X220's around, no.
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>>45458185
No it doesn't, the X220t's digitizer is fine.

>>45458208
Not so much anymore since wifi connection becomes terrible/dies. Probably due to electrical interference, not sure if all of them suffer from this or if it's just a laptop thing when you close the lid.
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should I?
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>>45458394
It's premium can't wait price.
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>>45458486
I can wait. I just dunno if I'll find a better deal.
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>>45458516
You will.
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490 usd is a good price for a Thinkpad T430? (Core I5 2.5ghz 3g 8gb Ram 500gb Hdd)
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>>45458915
not really, no
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>>45458972
What would be a good price?
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>>45459009
380 or lower.
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>>45459044
Thanks men.
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>>45456640
X21, T42, X61s, X220.
Currently using the X61s, saving the X220 for further down the road. T42 is too old, X21 is completely non-functional.
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>>45458516
If you want to save some $ just buy the i5's. Difference isn't that much.
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Is it impossible to get a decent thinkpad for a non-insane price in Europe?

[spoiler];_;[/spoiler]
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>>45459261
Hope that eBay ships to your country.
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>>45459261
I'm located in Sweden and so far all my thinkpads have been pretty cheapo.
where you @
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>>45459301
The Netherlands, but I'm not really sure which one to get for a decent price here. I've been wanting to get an X201 but the US prices seem so much better.
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>>45458516
They go on ebay auctions for 200 on the reg, one seller in particular has like 20 up right now, source is I just bought an x200 after shopping around for a bit
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