So /g/ what's the best monitor 27" or more for gaming?

>>45433608
For gaming?
Asus PG278Q
There's also the 1080p version for like 1/3 the price. 144Hz is a hell of a drug.

As for the korean monitors, they're nice, but they don't generally overclock that well and often just drop frames past 60 even if they report a higher refresh rate.

I'm planning on buying a benq xl2720z together with a 2420z portrait.
Is this smart?

Sounds like the DP2710 is one of the best.

>gaming

grow up, or go back to your containment board

>>45433969
I fucking hate this. Why do people on board keep bashing on gaming. Sure, discussing gaming topics is a no no, but you can't deny people need technology for gaming, and this is the place to go.

Have you seen the pc building thread a while ago on /v/? They started discussing whether you need an I7 or an I5 and 16 or 32 Ram for simply gaming.

>>45433652
>144hz
>TN
costanza etc

>>45434636
What's wrong with that?

>>45434314
Why would you ever need 16gb for gaming?
Also, i5 is enough.

>>45434314

Most part of /g/ comes from /a/, and everything that's not anime and manga are for children.

>>45434714
That's my point. That's why they come here.

>>45434647
If you have to ask what's wrong with TN panels I feel sorry for you.

>27"
Lit (that's short for literally) why

>>45434823
Yeah why would you need anything bigger than 24"?

>>45434789
If simply for gaming, TN is better or the same, it really doesn't matter.

>tfw no low input lag 1440p A-TW IPS 144hz strobing backlight monitor

>>45435006
>why would you need anything bigger than 15" 800x600

>>45435047
>TN better for gaming
retarded much? IPS/PLS gives you much better quality

>>45433608
QNIX

>>45433652
>800+ jewaroos

fuckin hell

>>45435057
Quality means shit for competitive gaming.

>>45435105
gaming =/= competitive gaming

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>>45435105
>competitive gaming

Alright calm down there xXxMLGproGamrxXx

>>45435105
Explain? Not that you play competitive or anything.

>>45433608
get an korean ips with 120hz, win win

>silver 3
>get 144hz TN monitor
>legendary eagle

>>45435200
>silver 3
>buy 19" tn 60hz
>legendary eagle after 2 months

>>45435200
>silver 3
>bet 144hz monitor on LDLC
>fnatic

>>45435200
>silver elite master
>buy 1080p 144hz benq tn monitor
>get motion sick at 144hz
>have to set it to 60
>fml

>>45435266
nova 4 now though, was mg once

>>45435266
>get motion sick
bet you have the tightest boypussy.

>>45435162
I'm saying that gamers would aim for higher fps first, looks second.
That being said, if you have no budget limit, go for a 30k gaming PC, I don't care, but as long as you're on a budget, you're gonna have to stick to TN, unless you want to spend $400 on a 144hz
screen.

>>45435315
thanks

>>45435329
you can spend 300€ on an IPS 120HZ Korean Monitor.
OR
Spend 300€ on a TN 144HZ and pay 50% alone for the brand

the choics is yours.

Korea is too expensive but still not that good. They're just a more expensive China. If you want a quality monitor get one made in a real country, like Japan. Korean made is no better than Taiwan, but way more expensive.

>>45433652
>144Hz
>implying I make over 144fps on anything taxing
Arma 3 runs max at 60fps for me with high settings so idgaf about the Hz dick measuring contest.

>>45434749
It's funny because I have been browsing /g/ for years and also play vidya, but never was called out for doing so or talking about certain, video game related products.

I have the feeling that it's less about the hobby itself but rather about the way most people from /v/ act. Most of the time you can immediately spot them. Their posts basically scream underage.

>>45435569
>Samsung
>LG
>Best Displays Companys
>Shit
>Japan
>Good because of
>????
>Yes

>$300
>1440p
>120hz
>27"
>IPS
>EXPENSIVE

Fuck off, retard

>>45435489
I'd rather prefer a brand that I know can give me a replacement screen if it gets broke.
I don't trust koreans to actually make good stuff, plus it's probably a bitch to get a warranty there.
I might be just biased, but that's my opinion.
I can only afford the Asus VG248QE, so that's what I'm going to get.

>>45433608
I ordered a 27" one from Monoprice as a second monitor.

It's supposedly excellent for the price (same panel as the last gen of iMacs). Minus some light leaks at the edges. Wish I could tell you more, but it won't be here for a few days.

At least I'll be able to bitch at someone who speaks english if it's shit.

>>45435632
>Asus VG248QE
>TN
>$300
>Same as superior Korean SAMSUNG Display (QNIX)

GOOD desicion m8

/g/

>>45435632
Why are people willing to pay twice as much just for an fucking guaranty? Makes no sense.

I never had any broken hardware, even if I had, bad luck, still saved me money

>>45435703
>not exclusively buying Eizo monitors and pray that the screen breaks after 4 years and 11 months of use so they have to replace it

>>45435742
kek
best answer

>>45435742
>Eizo
>good
>quality
>expensive
>60hz
>or
>TN
>chose between cancer or aids

no thanks friend

>>45435764
There's so much wrong with this post that I won't even bother going into detail.

>>45435783
oh really? there are eizos with 120hz AND IPS? tell me

dodge more bullets

>>45435669
Pretty sure the asus is still cheaper, not to mention I have no idea where to get a qnix in yurop.

>>45435808
No, but Eizo is the onl company that sells 120Hz VA panels.

>>45435816
the posted asus is 40€ cheaper, qnix is avaible like everywhere else -> ebay. inform yourself before buying, there are two versions, one is oc'able there other aint.

>>45435819
IPS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VA

>>45433608
korean monitors are shit, don't bother, and I'm pretty sure you ment 1440p, not 27". I'd save my money for 4K

>>45435816
Definitely isn't cheaper in Germany. Also 24" 1920x1080 TN vs 27" 2560x1440 PLS...

>>45435843
>IPS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VA
It's not.

What do you want 120Hz for apart from fast paced games? And please dont say photoshop now.

Blacks and contrast are important for games. The only upside of an IPS panel is color accuracy. And if there's anything you dont need for games, it's color accuracy.

>>45435876
>24" 1920x1080 TN
holy shit nigger what the fuck are you doing, just get a 1080p IPS panel

>>45435843
Totally not sold on buying stuff from ebay.

>>45435876
I don't need 27" right now, not to mention I'd have to overclock it.
And I only have one gpu.

>>45435902
Again, you mean 1440p not 27", you look like a tard.

I've read about freeSync. If I buy a new monitor now will it support DisplayPort 1.2a VESA's Adaptive Sync?

Or will it require a different cable?

>>45435764
... lol

>Eizo
>implying not good quality
>implying only 60hz-/TN-panels
2/10 i guess

>>45435897
I'm not doing anything at all, anon.
>>45435902
>And I only have one gpu.
Why would that be a problem?

>>45435921
No, I mean 27".
I have limited space, the 27" would not fit, unless I lower the whole desk for 10cms.

>>45435985
So just get a 21.5" 1080p IPS panel and be done with it

>>45434714

Why would audiophiles spend so much on their equipment?

Can't they just listen to mp3s with $50 headphones like most of the world?

>>45435887
It is.

I know VA is good, but IPS is just better, and you are wrong. I DO want color accuracy in Games, I've calibratet everything with Spyder and use different profiles for every Programm/Game via Color Sustainer.

Besides that I 60hz for me is not Smooth enough, plus Blur and Tearing kills me. Even on Slow Games like WoW.

I also watch movies interpolated to 120fps.

>>45435902
Than don't buy it, wheres the difference between Amazon or Ebay? Educate yourself.

>>45435967
Where did I say it was not good quality? It wasnt meant sarcastic.

>>45435978
Build related, this is what I have minus the screen.
That is also pretty much my budget, so unless you got something better, I'll go with the asus

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H43NWZ

>>45435937
"I've read about freeSync. If I buy a new monitor now will it support DisplayPort 1.2a VESA's Adaptive Sync?

Or will it require a different cable?"

Also I was thinking of getting the Eizo Flexscan EV2450

>>45436017
>color accuracy
>in games
You dont even seen to understand why people want color accuracy on a panel. Spoiler alert: its not so they can have accurate colors for developer created beings.

Trading a contrast ratio that is 6-7 times higher and a proper black value for color accuracy of digitally created content is utterly retarded. There's no value in the model matching the exact same blue it was created in.

Its something you want if you do a lot of photo and video editing. It might be an OK trade for games if you run them at 60Hz, but since youre implying that you run every game at 120 (which is complete bullshit) it sure as hell isnt. And if all of them run at 120fps they probably look like shit anyway, ergo color accuracy is even more pointless.

>>45436025

This is very simple bro.


How much of your time before your PC do you spend gaming?
If its 70%+ then If in that 70%+ you spend most of it in fast moving competitive FPS games (no Dota will never count here) you have succesfully justified the 24", 1080p 120hz TN display.

If you also watch movies, series, anime, browse the net and basically consume most virtual content on this monitor - and you are definitely not a hard core competitive FPS gamer (and competitive doesnt mean pubstomping) - then you should get an IPS monitor.

You don't have to go for a korean one, and if you do you don't have to bother with overclocking (even though for nvidia thats literally just making a custom resolution)

I'm sure you can buy at the worst, a good quality 1080p IPS.

I did get the qnix2710, in the EU, for $320, pixel perfect - 10 months ago, I can only believe it is dirt cheap now.
Thats the same price I paid for my dell U2412m before, and thats such a piece of shit compared to the korean its scary.

So if you feel up for it, I'd delve into that Qnix overclockers topic, learn about your risks (take some salt with you, since everyone who ever had a problem has posted in that topic, but barely any of those who are completely satisfied, like me) and find a good vendor in the topic.

What you can count on is a 96hz OC, many fails to reach 120hz - mine can reach it with the righ timings, but it doesnt look good with the amount of ghosting it itroduces, 96hz is perfect though.

>>45435937
For freesync the monitor and the graphics card will hafta both support it. Hopefully the first of these monitors will launch early to mid 2015

>>45433608
If you really want a overclockable korean monitor, look at the new tempest overlord. Most of the offbrand korean monitors suffer from bad quality control a bit though. If I had to get a 27" monitor now, I'd probably go for the samsung s27a950D (or s27a750D depending on taste) (though it's only 1080p), if you can find one

>>45436036
>>45435937

No monitor OR video card currently has the new stardard yet.

>>45433608
>Korean monitors
Shit as fuck. Woudn't buy.

>>45436139
Why do you think you need 120fps for 120hz? Why do you think VA excels in Games? Your logic is flawed, probably you own a Eizo and try to defend your Panel.
Spoiler Alert: you aren calibrate your colors just for the sake of color accuarcy.

>>45436139
>Contrast
>in Games

What's your point? Still IPS > Va

>There's no value in the model matching the exact same blue it was created in.

That's not why you calibrate, anon.
Granted, some people do.

>>45433961
does it have pwm?

>>45436161
Well, that's one of my main issues, I've been stuck on outdated hardware for a while now, and I have a TN monitor currently (1280x1024 @ 75hz), and I don't feel it's bad or anything. I looked up some prices, and the asus is really pushing my budget already, that's why I picked it. Plus, it's pretty much guaranteed that I won't have any issues with it.

With the qnix, I read that there could be quite a few problems. Not to mention, I would have to get it from ebay, and pay quite a bit on shipping.

The asus is just more convenient for me.

>>45436161
>I did get the qnix2710, in the EU, for $320, pixel perfect - 10 months ago, I can only believe it is dirt cheap now.
Its the same price anon.

There are 2 cons on the QNIX tbh
-bad stand
-not-as-good housing like the dell

But who gives a fuck?

>>45436267
The chance your asus display is flawed is as high as the qnix will be flawed. Look ausus deadpixel policy, same as QNIX.

1-4 Dead Pixels = NO RETURN.

>>45436275
...and flickering?

>>45436316
which flickering?!?!

>>45436191
>you aren calibrate your colors just for the sake of color accuarcy
Now youre changing topics, beautiful. No one ever argued about calibration but the value of color accuracy in games which goes towards 0. The difference between VA and IPS isnt big enough to claim that its valuable.

>>45436238
What is it with you clowns and calibration? You should also calibrate a fucking TN panel, that has literally nothing to do with the topic.

The strength of an IPS panel is that is can provide the most accurate colors, nothing else. The contrast is mediocre, the black values are mediocre. And since color accuracy is worthless in video games and its hardly possible to see a disctinct color depth difference between a non shit VA and a good IPS panel you trade worthless color accuracy for less contrast and blacks.

Unless you use the panel for multimedia purposes, watching movies, doing photoshop or almost exclusively play 60fps locked console games etc, theres literally no reason to get an IPS panel for games.

So stop with this bullshit already.

>>45436304
I'm not talking about dead pixels, more about bleeding.

>>45436327
backlight uses pwm

Is there a korean 1440p 27" with no PWM?

>>45436329
>value of color accuracy in games which goes towards 0

If you are a pleb, yeah.

>The difference between VA and IPS isnt big enough to claim that its valuable.

Proof you don't know what you are talking about

>>45436363
Youre probably one of those people who quotes the specifications given by the manufacturer and claims that he sees a distinct difference between 4ms and 8ms latency (lag + g2g).

>>45436329
>What is it with you clowns and calibration?
>WHY YOU GUYS HAVE HIGHER STANDARTS THAN ME????

Dude, you are annoying as fuck.

>>45436347
I dont have BLB, also its easy Fixable. Protipp make a photo of your display, the chance it has BLB is very high, nearly every Display has when a photo is made.

>>45436267

Then my personal opinion and advice is to buy a normal, cheap 60hz IPS 1080p screen, and simply hold out for something better.

1440p is coming and probably going, 4k is coming and is here to stay.
freesync, g-sync is on its way and here too, theres been news of real 120hz IPS displays too (the korean ones are still not 'true' since pixel shift time is too low for that)

And god fuck me but hopefully OLED will come too.

You can get used to any type of a monitor - only after you've used something considerably better will you notice its faults, but 2014 seems like a horrible year to buy monitors - unless its a korean one becuse that is really a good deal for what you get (as you say, if you have no issues).

>>45436275

Sucks to hear that, pretty gay, though its still just as cheap I guess but I was maybe hoping to pick up another one.

And yeah, the stand sucks shit and the whole thing looks like a cheap TV - which is probably why I didnt have to pay VAT on it when they brought it into the country, prolly thought its a shitty cheap chink TV not worth checking out.

>>45436347

This depends on vendors, which is why looking through that megathread is important.
I bought from kcci_us or who the dick, after I've seen like 10 reports of people receiving flawless displays from him.
Mine came, its absolutely flawless blb and pixels wise.
Each vendor sets their own return policy, make sure BLB is absolutely not permitted.

>>45436435

Oh and FYI, if you don't mind tearing down electronics and some work with it, you CAN make it look sexy as dick.

>>45436419
>Dude, you are annoying as fuck
And youre purposely missing the point. You dont have any standards. Youre a marketing victim, nothing else who tries his hardest to put words in other peoples mouths.

No one even claimed that calibrating a monitor is bad. It never was up for discussion.

>>45433608
I have one. Power brick exploded, otherwise good.

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>>45436402
No, I'm not.

>>45436360
no problem with any flickering on 2 QNIX I own.

>>45436435
If you like to tinker like me, you can Debezel it. It looks awesome, I had no time to do it yet. But its on top of my ToDo list. Pic related.

>>45436435
I'm not planning on upgrading anytime soon.
I buy a new PC every 6 years or so, and it's done me fine so far. That's why I try to get as good hardware as I can with my budget, and if I get a subpar screen right now, I might regret it and will have to stick with it for a while.

>>45436472
What the fuck is your problem? I had TN, IPS, PLS, VA.

120 HZ on the QNIX is real, also the PLS Panel is real, are you mentaly challanged?

Calling me a marketing victim after buying an overpriced Eizo is just plain stupid.

A QNIX excels in every category besides the build quality.

Alright im looking for a good 24 inch screen without spending to much.

Found the AOC G2460FQ

1ms and 144hz full HD and I can buy it for 199 euros. Are there better alternatives or whut.

>>45436587
>24"
>480p

I will look what I can do

>>45436599
>480p

wat

>>45436517

Yeah thats what I was talking about.

I didnt do it either, its really a bitch that we have to glue the backboard on the panel because only the bezel golds them together, makes it a painful process.

I did however replace the stand and paint the bezel matte black (except for the fake brushed aluminium line)
So while its still bulky now, it doesnt look that much worse then my Dell next to it.

>>45436532

A monitor is not really the same as PC hardware, but whatever floats your boat, I just think you are getting the shorter end of the stick this way.

>>45436578

120hz on the qnix isnt "real" man, the refresh rate is - but IPS panel pixel color changing times are too slow to keep up.
You can check on testufo that the higher you put the refresh rate, the more ghosting it introduces, at 120hz with constant movement (like an FPS) on the screen, the crystals never even get to display the supposed color at all, they have to start changing again before finishing one cycle.

I found it even visually annoying in many games, its not as severe at 96hz so I stuck to that.

>>45436578
>dodging the topic again
Youre not even trying anymore, are you? You make false accusations, claim that people dont value proper calibration and then start to backpedal as soon as someone calls you out for your bullshit.

>>45436675
I know this isn't really the right place to ask, but no other topics are on right now.

Which do you think is the superior gtx 970? The Gigabyte windforce 3x or the Gigabyite gaming g1?
And why?

>>45436778

Isnt the gaming g1 just a waterblocked 970?

While superior that is absolute overkill stuff - plus you'd need the entire watercooling setup ready.

Gigabyte windforce has been pretty nice on all the 760s and 770 and 7950s I've seen, probably works like a wonder on maxwell like the 970.

>>45436810
So the windforce 3x is better if I only use air cooling?

>>45433731
Is this smart?
not really. thoses are pretty bad colors, so about anything else would be better outside of fps gaming (read: csgo/ql).

I own a 2420z btw.

>>45436880

Well more like its your only choice unless you are ready to invest almost as much into a watercooling setup as what the card itself costs.

A waterblock means it can only be cooled by water.

>>45436927
Yeah, going with the windforce then.
Also, why are people saying the strix is good? How does it compare to the windforce if I only use air cooling?

>>45436675
you are SO wrong, so fucking wrong, there many qnix versions, one which skip frames, the other dont, I have REAL 120hz, the UFO test was the first thing I did.

>>45436696
I Backpaddle? I just dont give a fuck about idiots like you, I allready explained that just because YOU don't value color calibrations in games, it doenst mean no one does. You are just stupid and got rekt previous by the other guy. stop beeing a madcunt

>>45437049

Im not wrong, I clearly bothered more with this than you have.

Those with multiple inputs drop frames, you are correct.
Yours is true 120hz, correct.
Can an IPS display keep up with a 120hz refresh rate? No.

Why do you think no brands make them yet if it was technologically possible?

But lets not waste words bro, go testufo and change the test to Ghosting / Pursuit camera, and check it at 60 and 120, you should see the difference.

>>45437113
>Why do you think no brands make them yet if it was technologically possible
Its because there is no interestets on the market, a consumer dont know the difference between IPS and TN.

Also I doubt you bothered more with that topic than me, you would know that a QNIX uses a PLS Display not an IPS.

I did ALL the UFO tests several times, also now again to be sure, no problems at all, I don't know which QNIX you tried.

>>45437113
also there absolutly no topics on this "problem" which dont exist.

>>45436994
asusfags gonna asusfag

>>45437179

PLS is IPS dumbdumb.

You are just making a fool out of yourself at this point.

No topics on it?
Denial, I'm done, even when faced with objective facts, shitlords will be in their rock hard denial bunker.

>>45437179
PLS is Samsung's implementation of IPS (since IPS is a licensed LG technology). They're visually virtually identical except PLS doesn't have the refresh rate issues IPS has.

Own a Qnix single input. Love it. Has been overclocked to 120hz since the day I got it. The only obnoxious part is setting up your color profile because the overclock drops your gamma levels.

It very occasionally artifacts with the refresh rate overclock, but I mean less than one per day.

>>45437538
PLS is a Superior version of IPS from Samsung you retarded shit, it has no glare.

you could provide some links, but you don't, guess why? there aint any, stop pulling shit out of your ass.