ITT : we talk about distros
What are you pref Linux's distros guys ? Try to explain by topics :
Style, stability, familiarity, documentation and stuff
Also, going to buy a new laptop, can't go above 400€, you guys already bought a laptop already under Linux distro ? Was thinking about getting something on linux-shop (French website, soz.)
For example : http://www.linux-shop.fr/produit-LSP15-v1.html (should not be too hard to translate)
For my part, I only had a computer running Ubuntu. Quite simple to use for anyone, seems pretty stable, but didn't like the user interface, doesn't really look beautiful. Also the install was a real pleasure, in 2 click you got the thing running on your PC.
Also tried Debian at univ', with GNOME env, but can't really tell a lot about it.
I'm looking forward to see your distros and what you think about that.
>Style: Vanilla, do it yourself.
>Stability; Bretty good to be semi bleeding edge.
>Familiarity: Is that some kind of Ubuntu user word?
>Documentation: Horrible, but, everything is on ArchLinux Wiki to be honest you just need to have common sense to use any distro.
First define the best DE for you (Cinnamon, XFCE, KDE, etc) then the distro, the Desktop environment is part of Windows Kernel, but we are on Linux, so don't choose a distro because of his DE, you can get for example XFCE on any distro you want practically.
Since 20... Humm, man, Fedora 17 it was... 2012? I think, My first distro was Mandriva, fucking awesome, then was, Ubuntu, Debian, Linux Mint, Mageia, OpenSUSE, and now Fedora since 2012, yep.
I'm pretty sure the one you'd like will be on Linux Mint, I hope you better start using a easy to use distro, like LinuxMint or Manjaro.
Manjaro it's pretty interesting, is based on Arch.
(Don't install Gentoo or Arch, you'll never come back to linux, nobody like linux because their fucking ego says IT CANNOT BE THAT HARD HUEHEUHEU, and people try advanced distros)
I'm justly looking up for more infos about DE !
Well, we roughly do some system at univ, so shell, commands and stuff doesn't bother me... But I guess what I want is something that you can custom a lot, fast and beautiful.
Btw, I'm a developper, if that can help... Mint seems to be nice, I'm looking for more infos atm.
Anything you want
i've broken so much distros, but my debian install is still running perfectly fine even after a year, and it is debian "unstable".
Tons of it
What stuff do I need?
Hmm, If you are a dev, Fedora can hit the spot, you can have it the way you want, and for me, it's the best distro out there for developers. updated libraries but stable.
I'm using linux mint, and for me, you better keep the default settings and shit, if you touch something you'll see the bugs, that's why is for beginners, beginners doesn't like to touch their code, on Fedora you have an open source experience (if you want you can install non free from other repos) and almost everything is vanilla. Try it OP, believe me.
For every command there is a manual so if you want to know more type "man command" on the command line.
$ man fdisk
So Fedora would be better than Mint ?
Alright, I'll look up for Fedora :) !
Also, the man isn't mandatory on every linux distros?
Fedora seems pretty interesting, I'm going to look up about WM and DE now ! Thanks
I bought a laptop with a linux distro. The ASUS F201/X201 shipped with windows 8 and ubuntu. The ubuntu model had 4GB RAM instead of 2GB and a 500GB HDD instead of 320GB. Additionally it was cheaper too and 100% driver support was guaranteed. I would always try to by OSless or with linux.
>Manjaro Minimal Install
>Very good stability, never had a problem unlike with Canonical
>LXDE is very similar to windows, i3 is just extremely efficient from a productive point of view
>Manjaro is based on Arch. The Arch wiki is very extensive
I would always recommend a minimal install. Basically every linux disto comes with massive bloat and an absolute hideous appearance.
>Yup, I assumed we already know that every distro have it, I'm just saying that more users need to use it.
Well, learned to use it after getting tons of "RTFM" !
>Oh boy, yes, can't really understand why /g/ like so much WM,
Why won't you like WM ? :p
So you would recommend getting the mini install and then adding what you want?
I guess is too minimal for me, I liked a lot Gnome 2, but it looks to deprecated for me now, so I'm not using MATE or Xfce, I'm using Cinnamon right now, pretty awesome, and it only use 250~ mb of my 3GB ram. (64 bit)
Yes, the Netinstall is good, or you can try some other distros to improve your DE or WM experience till you wait for Fedora 21, I'm stuck on LinuxMint17.1 till they release it, just testing Cinnamon 2.4, I also tested Plasma 5 on OpenSUSE and Mageia, not that bad, but Cinnamon just do what I want. I'll have Fedora 21 with Cinnamon at the end of the year.
I would always put a minimal install on the machine and work myself up from there depending on what I need. Personally I only need mails, a browser, a texteditor, pdf viewer and capabilities for media playback meaning music, pictures and movies of course. This means that roughly 90% of what a distro ships with is useless to me. If I wanted anything more right now I could simply add it via terminal. The only thing you should know about is how to handle the cli as you will have to install your DE yourself in most cases. After that you must add it in ~.xinitrc by writing exec [command for starting the DE].
I never tried it 'IRL', but it seems pretty easy to custom and stuff... I just don't really like the basic style, but seems that you can do that kind of things :
Stupid question, but I got different answers from a website to another... You can roughly use any DE / WM with any distro right ?
Like Fedora/Cinnamon ?
Also for GNOME, didn't liked GNOME 3, purely because of the style, doesn't look really clear etc...
If I want a distro with rolling release but don't want to compile packages myself to have full functionality/ricing (and dont't want Gentoo), is Open SUSE with Tumbleweed my only option, or is Arch still OK?
>MFW make fun of arch fags
>MFW actually do research on distros
>MFW I want to run Arch
>Stupid question, but I got different answers from a website to another... You can roughly use any DE / WM with any distro right ?
Yes, but there is some distros that prefer to improve their own DE more than port new one (See, Ubuntu and Unity)
>Like Fedora/Cinnamon ?
Yup., See. (Ignore the debian icon on the menu lmao.)
Yeah, I speak taco, that's why I write like a dyslexic fuck.
I'm new to Linux and giving Crunchbang a try. I really like Openbox but I'm also going to download a distro that comes with XFCE just so I can try it out too.
Do any of you anons have any resources for learning Debian/Linux ?
I downloaded "The Unix Programming Environment" but I'm looking for a book that focuses on the daily tasks/operation of the OS rather than the details. Of course I'm interested in both but right now I think it's best to stick to the simple things in order to learn.
Any help, please?
First, fucking good wallpaper ah ah !
Okay I see !
Well I guess my choice will go for that computer
Running Fedora using Cinnamon, thanks guys !
(Just in case,
Computer : LSP15
Preinstalled OS (I can choose)
Size 15.6 inches
Type LED HD Mat
Proc Intel Pentium 3550M
CPU frequency 2.30 Ghz
Size 4 Go
Type DDR 3
Frequency 1600 MHz
HDD 500 Go
Intel HD Graphics
Standards Wifi 802.11 b/g/n
2 x USB 3.0
1 x USB 2.0
1 x VGA
1 x HDMI
2 x Jack (3.5 mm)
1 x Lan RJ45
Webcam HD 720p
Weight 2.4 Kg
Dimensions 383 x 249,5 x 32,3~37,6 mm)
Good choice OP, that laptop looks amazing.
I'm pretty sure you're not gonna have problems since you are a developer you'll find more great things about Fedora than bad things. (since there's not a perfect distro, just the perfect distro for us, find it)
Good luck OP!
Vanilla, UNIX, BSD, KISS. Simple without going full retard like Arch
Rock solid though still a very modern distro, new release once a year on average. Also very conservative when it comes to software which I think is a good thing since it avoids bandwagons *cough*systemd*cough*. Also it's been going on for 21 something years now so that should speak for itself.
Haven't been using it for long but I already love it. Very easy to learn I'd say.
Pretty good, thanks to vanilla packages there's very little distro-specific documentation so you can always get documentation from the original software package, /usr/doc is your friend.
don't really care, I threw the default config out and customised everything.
never had it crash. a few times some memory-leaking programs made the OS unusable due to virtual mem usage reaching almost 100%, but that's no surprise.
IMO yum and rpm are way eaier to use than apt and deb, and the rest, well, it's customisable.
Fedora Forums are awesome.
It's pretty cutting-edge so there's bound to be some instability. In both the buggy software sense of the word and the "I updated and things are different" sense.
Not to say it's as bad as Arch, but it's definitely there.
>I only need mails, a browser, a texteditor, pdf viewer and capabilities for media playback meaning music, pictures and movies
>roughly 90% of what a distro ships with is useless to me
I installed Ubuntu 14.10 on my Alienware 14 today and it's pretty good. I got everything working, and I'm downloading TF2 to test out how well the NVIDIA GPU handles it. The only thing that kinda stinks about it is that the sound is for some reason muffled and quiet from the speakers compared to super loud on Windows.